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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Varche on 14 July 2017, 13:50:41
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Words fail me.
Hopefully the victim will receive the eyes from the perpetrator.
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Shocking. People permanently disfigured for the sake of a moped or mobile phone. What kind of callous, sick bastards would carry out an attack like this? There are parts of London where it's just not safe to be out after dark any more.
They've apparently arrested one person for this. If it turns out they've got the right person, it will be interesting to see what length of sentence he gets. Anything less than 30 years would be a travesty.
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Apparently, attacks like this have increased a lot in London over the past year, although not usually in this context. Who needs a gun or a knife to carry out a robbery, even in a jewellers, etc., when all you need is a glass container with water in it? I certainly wouldn't take a chance on it no being the real thing.
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Funny thing is I never remembered being able to buy acid in the Uk apart from some batteries which came with a mix ready to fill. When we got to Spain acid is cheap and freely available in 1 or 5 litre containers and is used liberally (by women) to clean homes. Men use it to reduce the PH level in swimming pools.
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household cleaners are usually acid
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A sad and depressing sign of the times now. An imported crime I heard them call it .
My wife and I were reminiscing only last night of the great times we used to have going down to the Station bar on Latimer Rd (AKA Bob's good time blues bar now sadly gone .....) in the shadow of Grenfell Tower. She was born in Bletchington St before the tower was built ,and we used to go down there at least a couple of times a month. After the bar emptied we'd get some chips from the Fish and Chip shop on Ladbroke Grove cross and enjoy a stroll around the area where she grew up.
This was only twenty years ago , f**k me , I wouldn't even drive through that area now in an armoured van.
We'd often park the car at Jack Straw's Castle in Hampstead and get the tube up the west end and after returning to Hampstead tube station stroll up the hill back to the car with only common sense for security . The nocturnal gay boys on the fringes of the Heath being the only group to avoid .
Twenty years to turn it all from a safe(ish ) area into a cess pool of multic*nturism...
It's way past the time where we went back to the punishment fitting the crime , bastards .
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Shoot them. And the parents, siblings and offspring. Scum breeds scum. Clear them out completely. And do so publically as a deterrent.
Then line up all the do-gooders who grumble, they're next.
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Have you seen the price of decent bullets these days ? One very large tank of a suitable acid and chuck the bastids in. Could get rid of thousands of scumbags to one tankful, so very cost effective. :y
When I was young, I was far from innocent and well behaved. I did things I shouldn't, some of which I'm ashamed of to this day, but throwing acid in innocent peoples faces. nah, no excuse for it. Society needs rid of them.
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Shoot them. And the parents, siblings and offspring. Scum breeds scum. Clear them out completely. And do so publically as a deterrent.
Then line up all the do-gooders who grumble, they're next.
I take it your looking forward to silverstone this weekend ;D ;D ;D
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Scum of society seems to be contantly working to reach new lows of depravity. >:( >:( >:(
Unfortunately, where there are legitimate uses for strong acid like cleaning drains, there are now petitions and calls for it to be only available to licensed people, therefore stopping DIY use. I suspect and hope that this will then be treated like unlicensed firearms with a minimum 5-year sentence.
Moped theft and use in crime has escalated since the police decided for 'rider safety' reasons not to pursue them in chases. Personally, I think the public's protection from these evil oiks should take priority. If they don't stop shoot them. :y :y :y
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Knee jerk reaction ... petitions to make acid available to licensed people.
As i said earlier it is freely available in 5 litre containers here for about £3. Never heard of acid attacks here.
Problem is the person not the product.
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I`d think it resonable to be granted a license for a hand cannon now 8)
Anyone dodgy looking comes near me carrying fluids, get`s a cap popped in their ass :y
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Knee jerk reaction ... petitions to make acid available to licensed people.
As i said earlier it is freely available in 5 litre containers here for about £3. Never heard of acid attacks here.
Problem is the person not the product.
Indeed. Where will this end if we take the route that it's the product at fault?
What about bleach? Or petrol? Are we going to ban everything that can potentially be used as a weapon by a thug?
An example needs to be set in sentencing these bottom feeders so others think twice about following in their steps.
Theboy's proposed sentencing regime is one possibility. :y
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Funny thing is I never remembered being able to buy acid in the Uk apart from some batteries which came with a mix ready to fill. When we got to Spain acid is cheap and freely available in 1 or 5 litre containers and is used liberally (by women) to clean homes. Men use it to reduce the PH level in swimming pools.
Brick and patio cleaners plus acidic alloy wheel cleaners, all freely available :y
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Do we need new laws and controls on acidic products? Probably not IMO, but the courts need to hand down some stiff sentences to the perpretrators of these nasty attacks. There are a range of offences GBH, Wounding with intent etc that cover these type of attacks but the criminal justice system needs to swiftly swing into action to clamp down on this increasing trend! >:(
We also need to give the Police proper stop and search powers and cut the associated red tape, and if anyone is found with a bottle of acid then they should have a damn good reason for having one. ie Young lad out on a Saturday night found with a bottle of acid, should be charged with possession of an offensive weapon in exactly the same way as if he was found with a knife! >:(
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Knee jerk reaction ... petitions to make acid available to licensed people.
As i said earlier it is freely available in 5 litre containers here for about £3. Never heard of acid attacks here.
Problem is the person not the product.
The problem is all the do-gooders and too much tolerance we have in this country, coupled with a mismanaged, out of touch enforcement department (Police).
Now regulars here know I have nothing but the utmost respect for the Police, particularly those doing the real work (except our local hobby bobby from a few years back, pretentious little jumped up prick, him and I had more than one disagreement on a Friday night). But I lost all faith in their procedures when bro called 999 during an armed robbery, and was told to call back again when the robbers had left. Where is the deterent in that?
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Knee jerk reaction ... petitions to make acid available to licensed people.
As i said earlier it is freely available in 5 litre containers here for about £3. Never heard of acid attacks here.
Problem is the person not the product.
The problem is all the do-gooders and too much tolerance we have in this country, coupled with a mismanaged, out of touch enforcement department (Police).
Now regulars here know I have nothing but the utmost respect for the Police, particularly those doing the real work (except our local hobby bobby from a few years back, pretentious little jumped up prick, him and I had more than one disagreement on a Friday night). But I lost all faith in their procedures when bro called 999 during an armed robbery, and was told to call back again when the robbers had left. Where is the deterent in that?
Quite incredible. :o If he'd told the Police he had a shotgun and was dealing with them himself they'd have been round in 30 seconds. >:(
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Knee jerk reaction ... petitions to make acid available to licensed people.
As i said earlier it is freely available in 5 litre containers here for about £3. Never heard of acid attacks here.
Problem is the person not the product.
The problem is all the do-gooders and too much tolerance we have in this country, coupled with a mismanaged, out of touch enforcement department (Police).
Now regulars here know I have nothing but the utmost respect for the Police, particularly those doing the real work (except our local hobby bobby from a few years back, pretentious little jumped up prick, him and I had more than one disagreement on a Friday night). But I lost all faith in their procedures when bro called 999 during an armed robbery, and was told to call back again when the robbers had left. Where is the deterent in that?
Quite incredible. :o If he'd told the Police he had a shotgun and was dealing with them himself they'd have been round in 30 seconds. >:(
One of his more elderly staff, now retired, stood up to them and sent them on their way empty handed.
I guess that shows how different generations deal and tolerate different things.
I believe she had a stiff brandy afterwards though.
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Knee jerk reaction ... petitions to make acid available to licensed people.
As i said earlier it is freely available in 5 litre containers here for about £3. Never heard of acid attacks here.
Problem is the person not the product.
The problem is all the do-gooders and too much tolerance we have in this country, coupled with a mismanaged, out of touch enforcement department (Police).
Now regulars here know I have nothing but the utmost respect for the Police, particularly those doing the real work (except our local hobby bobby from a few years back, pretentious little jumped up prick, him and I had more than one disagreement on a Friday night). But I lost all faith in their procedures when bro called 999 during an armed robbery, and was told to call back again when the robbers had left. Where is the deterent in that?
Probably the armed police were out doing other important stuff like....
Two armed police hanging around outside the Marriott in Swindon since Thursday evening probably because some bigwig that you've never heard of from the USA Air Force is staying there, due to RIAT this weekend ...... it would be interesting to know who is paying for their services/time :-\
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Probably the armed police were out doing other important stuff like....
Two armed police hanging around outside the Marriott in Swindon since Thursday evening probably because some bigwig that you've never heard of from the USA Air Force is staying there, due to RIAT this weekend ...... it would be interesting to know who is paying for their services/time :-\
We are without a shadow of a doubt. :)
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Elites and Public Schools always look after their own. ::) ::) ::)
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Elites and Public Schools always look after their own. ::) ::) ::)
Nothing wrong with public schools...
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Elites and Public Schools always look after their own. ::) ::) ::)
Nothing wrong with public schools...
Except too much 'bending over'
Bending over for a good hiding is one thing. Bending over to pick up the soap in the shower is another. :)
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Probably the armed police were out doing other important stuff like....
Two armed police hanging around outside the Marriott in Swindon since Thursday evening probably because some bigwig that you've never heard of from the USA Air Force is staying there, due to RIAT this weekend ...... it would be interesting to know who is paying for their services/time :-\
We are without a shadow of a doubt. :)
I would like to think RIAT were picking up the bill.... :-\ or the bigwig/USA Airforce :-\ or maybe even the Marriott :-\
Not sure of Marriott prices this weekend...but their more expensive than the Holiday Inn...Holiday Inn prices went from £80/night to £150/night for this weekend.....so they can afford it....as guaranteed to be a full house at every hotel this weekend.....
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All we really need is one whopper of a sentence for the next attacker, set an example, and it will start putting them off. It worked for the Glasgow razor gangs, so why not this?
http://www.pressreader.com/uk/daily-express/20080724/281788509834933
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All we really need is one whopper of a sentence for the next attacker, set an example, and it will start putting them off. It worked for the Glasgow razor gangs, so why not this?
http://www.pressreader.com/uk/daily-express/20080724/281788509834933
Unfortunately, due to "left wing luvvies" (Bliar - 2003) of some years back that CANNOT happen now.. although I wish it would.
Sentencing Council was set up to "standardise" sentences across the UK, if a Judge now steps outside those guidelines it is immediately appealed and in 95% of cases the sentence is reduced on appeal.
https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/
https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/Draft-guideline-Bladed-articles-and-offensive-weapons-guideline.pdf
which by my reading makes the absolute maximum for carrying a knife 2 years 6 months :(
Using a knife gets you into GBH / ABH / Armed assaults etc etc which have different guidelines.
:(