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Title: Fibreglass fabrication ....
Post by: HolyCount on 07 August 2008, 14:57:43
Remember the buggies me and HNO3GOH are going to build ??? Well .....   we have mananged to get our grubby paws on a stretched version chassis (4 seater) that we are going to chop and put back to two seater configuration.

With it comes some pretty sorry fibreglass wheel arches .... the plan is to patch them up and fill them ---- but it occured to us that, if we can make decent plugs and moulds we could push out a new set ( or three) for the next buggy .... here comes the question ...

Anybody know the best place to start, to get "How to" info in simple terms ??
Title: Re: Fibreglass fabrication ....
Post by: Debs. on 07 August 2008, 15:04:15
 ::) I know a little about this subject! ::)

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Fibreglass fabrication ....
Post by: HolyCount on 07 August 2008, 15:18:07
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::) I know a little about this subject! ::)

 ;D ;D ;D

So you do  ;D :D  I will PM you later -- if that's OK
Title: Re: Fibreglass fabrication ....
Post by: Debs. on 07 August 2008, 15:21:02
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::) I know a little about this subject! ::)

 ;D ;D ;D

So you do  ;D :D  I will PM you later -- if that's OK
:y Laminatrix awaits! :y
Title: Re: Fibreglass fabrication ....
Post by: HolyCount on 07 August 2008, 17:32:12
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::) I know a little about this subject! ::)

 ;D ;D ;D

So you do  ;D :D  I will PM you later -- if that's OK
:y Laminatrix awaits! :y

You do not want to know the pictures bubbling through the grey matter  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Fibreglass fabrication ....
Post by: Andy B on 07 August 2008, 17:45:41
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::) I know a little about this subject! ::)

 ;D ;D ;D

Oooo! Can I bring my Bond Bug body with me when we have the 'Deb's back garden' meet?  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Fibreglass fabrication ....
Post by: Kevin Wood on 07 August 2008, 17:53:11
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Oooo! Can I bring my Bond Bug body with me when we have the 'Deb's back garden' meet?

Carbon fibre Bond Bug?  8-)

Kevin
Title: Re: Fibreglass fabrication ....
Post by: Andy B on 07 August 2008, 17:57:09
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With it comes some pretty sorry fibreglass wheel arches ....  ....

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Carbon fibre Bond Bug?  8-)

Kevin

Where did carbon fibre come from?  ;)  ;D
I thought we were talking fibre glass / GRP   ;)  ;)
Title: Re: Fibreglass fabrication ....
Post by: Debs. on 07 August 2008, 18:03:34
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With it comes some pretty sorry fibreglass wheel arches ....  ....

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Carbon fibre Bond Bug?  8-)

Kevin

Where did carbon fibre come from?  ;)  ;D
I thought we were talking fibre glass / GRP   ;)  ;)

 ;) Carbon, Kevlar and (both) 'E' & 'S' Glass woven 'BID' & 'UNI' cloth and epoxy resin in stock here! :y
Title: Re: Fibreglass fabrication ....
Post by: HNO3GOH on 07 August 2008, 18:04:39
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::) I know a little about this subject! ::)

 ;D ;D ;D

Oooo! Can I bring my Bond Bug body with me when we have the 'Deb's back garden' meet?  ;D  ;D

You have a bond bug, now that is cool :y :y
Title: Re: Fibreglass fabrication ....
Post by: Andy B on 07 August 2008, 18:08:44
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 ;) Carbon, Kevlar and (both) 'E' & 'S' Glass woven 'BID' & 'UNI' cloth and epoxy resin in stock here! :y

BID? UNI? E & S  ...?   :-?  :-/  ;)
Title: Re: Fibreglass fabrication ....
Post by: Andy B on 07 August 2008, 18:17:02
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You have a bond bug, now that is cool :y :y

To my great shame I bought it about 5 years ago. After the initial spurt of enthusiasm that saw a 'new' chassis' built from a Robin, & a very little bit of fibre glassing of stainless inserts, it's sat in my garage not doing very much at all.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k17/Tiff4327/MyGarage001.jpg?t=1218129402)
Title: Re: Fibreglass fabrication ....
Post by: Debs. on 07 August 2008, 18:33:02
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 ;) Carbon, Kevlar and (both) 'E' & 'S' Glass woven 'BID' & 'UNI' cloth and epoxy resin in stock here! :y

BID? UNI? E & S  ...?   :-?  :-/  ;)

Bi-Directional woven cloth (equal threads at 90 x 0 degrees) = flexible and conforming.

Uni-Directional woven cloth (99% of threads in longitudinal direction) = rigid/stiff and high-modulus in tension.

'E'lectrical glass (most common for car body use) cheap and wets-out easily...not that strong or stiff.

'S'tructural glass (very high strength/stiffness) airframe and engineering structures...hghly alergenic.

Aramid (Kevlar) supremely-high modulus, very wear-resistant but difficult to work-with.

Carbon very-stiff and with high tensile strength, but costly and not wear resistant.
Title: Re: Fibreglass fabrication ....
Post by: Andy B on 07 August 2008, 18:46:23
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Bi-Directional woven cloth (equal threads at 90 x 0 degrees) = flexible and conforming.

Uni-Directional woven cloth (99% of threads in longitudinal direction) = rigid/stiff and high-modulus in tension.

'E'lectrical glass (most common for car body use) cheap and wets-out easily...not that strong or stiff.

'S'tructural glass (very high strength/stiffness) airframe and engineering structures...hghly alergenic.

Aramid (Kevlar) supremely-high modulus, very wear-resistant but difficult to work-with.

Carbon very-stiff and with high tensile strength, but costly and not wear resistant.

 :y Thanks.  :y
Title: Re: Fibreglass fabrication ....
Post by: Kevin Wood on 07 August 2008, 18:48:38
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Carbon fibre Bond Bug?  8-)

Kevin

Where did carbon fibre come from?  ;)  ;D
I thought we were talking fibre glass / GRP   ;)  ;)

No Harm in an upgrade... :y

Kevin
Title: Re: Fibreglass fabrication ....
Post by: HNO3GOH on 07 August 2008, 18:49:13
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You have a bond bug, now that is cool :y :y

To my great shame I bought it about 5 years ago. After the initial spurt of enthusiasm that saw a 'new' chassis' built from a Robin, & a very little bit of fibre glassing of stainless inserts, it's sat in my garage not doing very much at all.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k17/Tiff4327/MyGarage001.jpg?t=1218129402)

You must finish it :y :y
Saw a few last year at west point kit car show and i think they are great ;D but i think there's not many left now :(

Title: Re: Fibreglass fabrication ....
Post by: Andy B on 07 August 2008, 18:54:23
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Carbon fibre Bond Bug?  8-)

Kevin

 

Where did carbon fibre come from?  ;)  ;D
I thought we were talking fibre glass / GRP   ;)  ;)

No Harm in an upgrade... :y

Kevin
;D  ;D  ;D
There was a Bug at a recent meeting that had been upgraded with a turbo charged Hyabussa engine. 0 - 60 in around 2.5 secs & on to 140 in 12 secs  :o  :o  :o  :o .... mostly in a straight line though
Title: Re: Fibreglass fabrication ....
Post by: Kevin Wood on 07 August 2008, 19:00:04
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Carbon fibre Bond Bug?  8-)

Kevin

 

Where did carbon fibre come from?  ;)  ;D
I thought we were talking fibre glass / GRP   ;)  ;)

No Harm in an upgrade... :y

Kevin
;D  ;D  ;D
There was a Bug at a recent meeting that had been upgraded with a turbo charged Hyabussa engine. 0 - 60 in around 2.5 secs & on to 140 in 12 secs  :o  :o  :o  :o .... mostly in a straight line though

 :o ;D

Hand't fitted differential rear brakes, then, cos that's the only way you'd steer one with the fruot wheel off the ground!

Kevin
Title: Re: Fibreglass fabrication ....
Post by: Andy B on 07 August 2008, 19:08:50
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Hand't fitted differential rear brakes, then, cos that's the only way you'd steer one with the fruot wheel off the ground!

Kevin

There was lots of modified car stuff underneath ie welded Cossie diff, disc brakes front & back & another pair for the hydraulic handbrake, tubular chassis combined with roll cage. Apparently it went round corners better than a real Bug cos nothing moved very far.
Title: Re: Fibreglass fabrication ....
Post by: HNO3GOH on 07 August 2008, 19:09:00
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Carbon fibre Bond Bug?  8-)

Kevin

 

Where did carbon fibre come from?  ;)  ;D
I thought we were talking fibre glass / GRP   ;)  ;)

No Harm in an upgrade... :y

Kevin
;D  ;D  ;D
There was a Bug at a recent meeting that had been upgraded with a turbo charged Hyabussa engine. 0 - 60 in around 2.5 secs & on to 140 in 12 secs  :o  :o  :o  :o .... mostly in a straight line though

 :o ;D

Hand't fitted differential rear brakes, then, cos that's the only way you'd steer one with the fruot wheel off the ground!

Kevin

Warp factor 10 then :o :o :o
Title: Re: Fibreglass fabrication ....
Post by: HolyCount on 07 August 2008, 19:35:06
Now there's an idea -- fit a couple of nacelles and a paint job and you have a Star Trek Shuttle !!!!!
Title: Re: Fibreglass fabrication ....
Post by: HNO3GOH on 07 August 2008, 19:36:36
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Now there's an idea -- fit a couple of nacelles and a paint job and you have a Star Trek Shuttle !!!!!

Only you would :D :D
Title: Re: Fibreglass fabrication ....
Post by: Andy B on 07 August 2008, 20:10:05
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Now there's an idea -- fit a couple of nacelles and a paint job and you have a Star Trek Shuttle !!!!!

And what would be wrong with an Orange shuttle?  ;D