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Title: F/L irmscher front bumper
Post by: paul l on 14 August 2017, 19:53:41
Are F/L irmscher really worth £350?, like the one on ebay. Would like one but at that price, plus cost of repaint it seems alot
Title: Re: F/L irmscher front bumper
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 14 August 2017, 19:56:26
Are F/L irmscher really worth £350?, like the one on ebay. Would like one but at that price, plus cost of repaint it seems alot
I bought the last new one a few years ago... It cost nearly a grand.

Entirely up to you  ;)
Title: Re: F/L irmscher front bumper
Post by: paul l on 14 August 2017, 20:28:03
fair play sir ;)

One shall send an offer
Title: Re: F/L irmscher front bumper
Post by: zirk on 15 August 2017, 12:52:39
If I was selling or buying I would go around the 275+ mark for a good second hand Irmy Front Bumper, I think you need at least the Irmy side skirts as well to match the Bumper, doesn't look right on its own.

Just watch out for the Eastern Euro ones for sale, some are cheap fake resin copies. 
Title: Re: F/L irmscher front bumper
Post by: serek on 16 August 2017, 21:46:47
They do copy in Poland still about £200 for fake
Title: Re: F/L irmscher front bumper
Post by: STEMO on 16 August 2017, 22:08:03
They do copy in Poland still about £200 for fake
If it's an acceptable fake, i.e. it fits and looks like the real thing, then it might be the only way to go if you really want one.
Title: Re: F/L irmscher front bumper
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 16 August 2017, 22:42:27
Cant imagine why anyone would want one. I think they are ugly as sin.  ::)
Title: Re: F/L irmscher front bumper
Post by: TheBoy on 17 August 2017, 20:18:41
Cant imagine why anyone would want one. I think they are ugly as sin.  ::)
Obviously any styling is an individual preference, but a standard FL Elite seems to suffer from non-descript, bland looks in a fair few peoples eyes.

I think that's why you always saw more Irmscher'd FL than Irmcher'd PFL
Title: Re: F/L irmscher front bumper
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 17 August 2017, 20:21:03
It was indeed a bit nondescript, but the answer was never going to be that hideous monstrosity bolted on the front.
Nondescript beats pig ugly any day in my book.  :)
Title: Re: F/L irmscher front bumper
Post by: Mr.OmegaMan on 17 August 2017, 20:26:11
Personally, I like the MV6/Sport bumper out of all choices available for the FL. It's not too much in your face in a 'chavvy' way and not bland like the standard bumper. I do like the Irmcher rear bumper though and if one came up that ticked all the boxes i'd go for it.

But on the right car that's clean with all the irmy kit and wheels, they do look good. But they just look a little over the top for me personally for my own car, I do like to look at others with them on though. Also, like the Steinmetz FL Omega kit.
Title: Re: F/L irmscher front bumper
Post by: TheBoy on 17 August 2017, 20:29:51
It was indeed a bit nondescript, but the answer was never going to be that hideous monstrosity bolted on the front.
Nondescript beats pig ugly any day in my book.  :)
Owning an X351 XJ, I've learnt to live with pig ugly.  If you can't see it from the drivers seat....

;D
Title: Re: F/L irmscher front bumper
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 17 August 2017, 20:46:07
It was indeed a bit nondescript, but the answer was never going to be that hideous monstrosity bolted on the front.
Nondescript beats pig ugly any day in my book.  :)
Owning an X351 XJ, I've learnt to live with pig ugly.  If you can't see it from the drivers seat....

;D
Spoken like a true Scorpio driver ;D
Title: Re: F/L irmscher front bumper
Post by: TheBoy on 17 August 2017, 20:50:23
It was indeed a bit nondescript, but the answer was never going to be that hideous monstrosity bolted on the front.
Nondescript beats pig ugly any day in my book.  :)
Owning an X351 XJ, I've learnt to live with pig ugly.  If you can't see it from the drivers seat....

;D
Spoken like a true Scorpio driver ;D
Only I reverse arse first into parking spaces, whereas a Scorpio driver has to go in forwards. Just to ensure you don't catch a glance of the ugly end ;D
Title: Re: F/L irmscher front bumper
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 17 August 2017, 20:54:05
It was indeed a bit nondescript, but the answer was never going to be that hideous monstrosity bolted on the front.
Nondescript beats pig ugly any day in my book.  :)
Owning an X351 XJ, I've learnt to live with pig ugly.  If you can't see it from the drivers seat....

;D
Spoken like a true Scorpio driver ;D
Only I reverse arse first into parking spaces, whereas a Scorpio driver has to go in forwards. Just to ensure you don't catch a glance of the really ugly end ;D
Fixed... it never had a good side (or end) :D
Title: Re: F/L irmscher front bumper
Post by: TheBoy on 17 August 2017, 21:00:50
It was indeed a bit nondescript, but the answer was never going to be that hideous monstrosity bolted on the front.
Nondescript beats pig ugly any day in my book.  :)
Owning an X351 XJ, I've learnt to live with pig ugly.  If you can't see it from the drivers seat....

;D
Spoken like a true Scorpio driver ;D
Only I reverse arse first into parking spaces, whereas a Scorpio driver has to go in forwards. Just to ensure you don't catch a glance of the really ugly end ;D
Fixed... it never had a good side (or end) :D
I'm sure its designer had a soft spot. Clearly deranged, mind ;D
Title: Re: F/L irmscher front bumper
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 17 August 2017, 21:02:35
It looked ok in Moonstone grey, but Nantucket beige made the back of the saloon look like a moose's arse ;D
Title: Re: F/L irmscher front bumper
Post by: TheBoy on 17 August 2017, 21:03:53
It looked ok in Moonstone grey
Are your specs playing up Dr G? :P
Title: Re: F/L irmscher front bumper
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 17 August 2017, 21:16:43
It looked ok in Moonstone grey
Are your specs playing up Dr G? :P
;D not at all, it simply helped it to blend in, especially with dark light lenses...
Title: Re: F/L irmscher front bumper
Post by: STEMO on 17 August 2017, 21:20:01
It was indeed a bit nondescript, but the answer was never going to be that hideous monstrosity bolted on the front.
Nondescript beats pig ugly any day in my book.  :)
Owning an X351 XJ, I've learnt to live with pig ugly.  If you can't see it from the drivers seat....

;D
Spoken like a true Scorpio driver ;D
Only I reverse arse first into parking spaces, whereas a Scorpio driver has to go in forwards. Just to ensure you don't catch a glance of the really ugly end ;D
Fixed... it never had a good side (or end) :D
I'm sure its designer had a soft spot. Clearly deranged, mind ;D
Fair enough. But it could have been stopped at any time during design/manufacturing, so it must have been a case of mass hallucination.  ;D
Title: Re: F/L irmscher front bumper
Post by: ronnyd on 17 August 2017, 22:32:42
As a Granny owner for quite a few years the natural replacement would have been the Scorpio. BUT, it was soooo frickin ugly that i just couldn,t bring myself to get one, even though they look good inside. So i got a PFL Mig instead. :D. I even put up with a gay gold one. ;D
Title: Re: F/L irmscher front bumper
Post by: Entwood on 17 August 2017, 22:43:53
The Mk 1 - Ford Scorpio hatchback was, IMHO, a smart and versatile motor, with a decent amount of grunt with the 2.8 V6 engine, and was an excellent towcar for many years.

The Mk 11 - Ford Scorpio was an abomination, whoever thought up its "styling" (or total lack of it) should have been shot. Quentin Willson said in an episode of Top Gear in April 1997 that the "sad eyed Scorpio is so heroically ugly, it was obviously designed by Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder."

:)

edited for smelling pistakes
Title: Re: F/L irmscher front bumper
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 17 August 2017, 22:51:39
The Mk 3 - Ford Granada hatchback was, IMHO, a smart and versatile motor, with a decent amount of grunt with the 24v V6 engine, and was an excellent towcar for many years. Especially in Scorpio spec with heated electric leather all round. The saloon had an even bigger boot, but obviously not quite as practical.

The Ford Scorpio was an abomination regardless of spec, whoever thought up its "styling" (or total lack of it) should have been shot. Quentin Willson said in an episode of Top Gear in April 1997 that the "sad eyed Scorpio is so heroically ugly, it was obviously designed by Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder."

:)
That said, my Dad replaced his '93 Granada Scorpio hatch with a mint, low mileage five year old S reg Scorpio Ultima estate... looks notwithstanding, a very nice, and equally capable car. He kept it nearly six years, only replacing it when the bodywork started looking shabby. the final straw being when the heater matrix exploded, finally rendering the thing scrap.

Fixed for accuracy ;)
Title: Re: F/L irmscher front bumper
Post by: Entwood on 17 August 2017, 22:56:10
The Mk 3 - Ford Granada hatchback was, IMHO, a smart and versatile motor, with a decent amount of grunt with the 24v V6 engine, and was an excellent towcar for many years. Especially in Scorpio spec with heated electric leather all round. The saloon had an even bigger boot, but obviously not quite as practical.

The Ford Scorpio was an abomination regardless of spec, whoever thought up its "styling" (or total lack of it) should have been shot. Quentin Willson said in an episode of Top Gear in April 1997 that the "sad eyed Scorpio is so heroically ugly, it was obviously designed by Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder."

:)
That said, my Dad replaced his '93 Granada Scorpio hatch with a mint, low mileage five year old S reg Scorpio Ultima estate... looks notwithstanding, a very nice, and equally capable car. He kept it nearly six years, only replacing it when the bodywork started looking shabby. the final straw being when the heater matrix exploded, finally rendering the thing scrap.

Fixed for accuracy ;)

Your "accuracy" differs from recorded reality ....  :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Scorpio
Title: Re: F/L irmscher front bumper
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 17 August 2017, 23:15:25
You're confusing Wikipedia with reality :P

In Euroland the Mk 3 Granada was indeed known as the Scorpio...

In the Uk, however, the Scorpio was a trim level of the Mk3 Granada. The later Scorpio may or may not have been a Mk4 Granada... but it was a poorly rehashed Mk3 with a Mondeo style dash, designed to see off the imminent Omega B. Or not, as it turned out ::)