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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Zirfeld on 13 October 2017, 16:50:19
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I observed weather over many many years. But something like that I never saw before on the GFS (Global Forecast System)
The tropical storm Orphelia is far southwest of the Azores in the moment. Latest forecast shows that Orphelia will strength to a category 2 hurricane with northeast routing.
The GFS model is counting that Orphelia will reach northwest Ireland Monday afternoon :o
Rolf
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Probably. Was hoping it was headed for the Alps for some early snow, but seems not.
(http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT17/refresh/AL172017_5day_cone_no_line_and_wind+png/024159_5day_cone_no_line_and_wind.png)
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For my side of Europe (southwest Germany) Orphelia will bring the last summer days in 2017. 25°C (maybe more?) are on the radar. Orphelia will transport a subtropical airflow directly into the Rhine valley.
Rolf
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For my side of Europe (southwest Germany) Orphelia will bring the last summer days in 2017. 25°C (maybe more?) are on the radar. Orphelia will transport a subtropical airflow directly into the Rhine valley.
Rolf
In the UK the forecasters are starting to predict that us in the South of England could see temperatures of 21C plus.
I do hope that comes true, but also hope the North does not get hit too much by the hurricane ;)
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The forecasters are now predicting 25c for next Monday for the Southern half of Britain :y :y
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And I have 5 days off work from Monday. Lavvly jubbly. 8)
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It's trajectory seems to be heading for my front door .
Don't like severe storms , roll on Tuesday.
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Cars in the garage and batten down the hatches Don. :y
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If Cumbre Vieja goes up tomorrow, I probably wouldn't bother worrying about a bit of wind and rain ::)
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Orphelia is now "upgraded" to a major hurricane categorie 3. That never happens so far north since beginning of weather observations. Average wind speed is 180 km/h, peek wind speed is 220 km/h. :o
I hope Orphelia will loose her tropical energy somewhere south of Ireland. But there is another phenomen. She will get in direct contact with the polar jet. Now one knows really what will happen....
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Orphelia is now "upgraded" to a major hurricane categorie 3. That never happens so far north since beginning of weather observations. Average wind speed is 180 km/h, peek wind speed is 220 km/h. :o
I hope Orphelia will loose her tropical energy somewhere south of Ireland. But there is another phenomen. She will get in direct contact with the polar jet. Now one knows really what will happen....
You're an awfully cheery chap.........
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I'm booked on a flight from Edinburgh to Bristol on Monday morning. The flight path is roughly an arc from. Edinburgh to Liverpool, out into the Irish Sea, back across South Wales and across the Bristol Channel into Bristol Airport. :(
What can possibly go wrong? ::) ;D
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I'm booked on a flight from Edinburgh to Bristol on Monday morning. The flight path is roughly an arc from. Edinburgh to Liverpool, out into the Irish Sea, back across South Wales and across the Bristol Channel into Bristol Airport. :(
What can possibly go wrong? ::) ;D
I was going to say “Been nice knowing you, can I have your cars?” But......nah......leave them to someone else. ;D
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Orphelia is now "upgraded" to a major hurricane categorie 3. That never happens so far north since beginning of weather observations. Average wind speed is 180 km/h, peek wind speed is 220 km/h. :o
I hope Orphelia will loose her tropical energy somewhere south of Ireland. But there is another phenomen. She will get in direct contact with the polar jet. Now one knows really what will happen....
You're an awfully cheery chap.........
Midday tomorrow be the worst of it... http://polar.ncep.noaa.gov/waves/viewer.shtml?-multi_1-latest-NE_atlantic-u10-
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Hi Doc
Orphelia is not a normal hurricane
Normal hurricanes get their energy from warm water below. If warm water is missing, they die out. Orphelia will find another source of energy. She will cross the polarjet. The jet devides suptropical conditions in the south from suppolar conditions in the north.
Hurricanes generally are filled with warm wet air, typically -10...0°C in 500 hPa (5000 m). North of the jet Orphelia will find -25°C . So the warm air wet will rise like a giant balloon into the cold air and Orphelia will convert to a "normal" Atlantic cyclone.
In North America this process will last a few days, Orphelia will do it in a few minutes. It looks more than a giant thunderstorm than a cyclone conversion. I fear about local excessive rainfall and strong downbusting winds.
Monday morning the polarjet is located exactly over Ireland southwest to northeast. Tropical Orphelia will meet polar conditions near the southwest coast. I hope over sea. Orphelia has nne direction, the jet runs sw to ne.
But no one exactly knows what will happen, because such an event was never observed in detail before.
Rolf
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I bet that avid weather watchers are creaming in their underpants. ;D :o
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Hi Doc
Orphelia is not a normal hurricane
Normal hurricanes get their energy from warm water below. If warm water is missing, they die out. Orphelia will find another source of energy. She will cross the polarjet. The jet devides suptropical conditions in the south from suppolar conditions in the north.
Hurricanes generally are filled with warm wet air, typically -10...0°C in 500 hPa (5000 m). North of the jet Orphelia will find -25°C . So the warm air wet will rise like a giant balloon into the cold air and Orphelia will convert to a "normal" Atlantic cyclone.
In North America this process will last a few days, Orphelia will do it in a few minutes. It looks more than a giant thunderstorm than a cyclone conversion. I fear about local excessive rainfall and strong downbusting winds.
Monday morning the polarjet is located exactly over Ireland southwest to northeast. Tropical Orphelia will meet polar conditions near the southwest coast. I hope over sea. Orphelia has nne direction, the jet runs sw to ne.
But no one exactly knows what will happen, because such an event was never observed in detail before.
Rolf
Well if rainfall is to be the real worry then that's a good thing ... 'cause I'm on the side of a mountain so if I get flooded you're all dead . :)
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Hi ronnyd
I am a northern man from the North Sea strand. 12 BFT is not a real problem ;)
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getting pretty windy here in west Cornwall ::)
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Calm as a mill pond here and was 16.5 Deg. C this morning when I left. :o
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Calm as a mill pond here and was 16.5 Deg. C this morning when I left. :o
warm and sunny here too,just blowing a hoolie :D
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Its a bit windy here....and theres a eerie orange glow...the sun through the clouds looks orange.
Apparently its the dust picked up in Africa thats circulating above use that making it like that....
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Its a bit windy here....and theres a eerie orange glow...the sun through the clouds looks orange.
Apparently its the dust picked up in Africa thats circulating above use that making it like that....
Same here - in fact it looks a lot like a scene from the recent Bladerunner sequel outside with everything bathed in a brassy orange coloured light.
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Its a bit weird around here at the moment.
Cloudy but the sun is trying to break out.
A little windy but the really weird thing is how warm it is outside.
Sat in the house with a work shirt on.
Just been outside and it was like getting off a holiday plane at the airport.
My goggles even steamed up ;D
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??? What bad weather ? barely a breeze here in Newcastle ,although it did get VERY dark here about an hour ago .
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Global Forecast System says, that another (tropical? ) storm will develop west of the Azores on Thursday. It will became rapidly stronger and will drift eastwards very fast. Center pressure will be 965 hPa o Sunday. Track unsure...
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Its blowing a fair bit here too. and what with poxy scaffolding and loose roof tiles thanks to the cuddy morons earlier it has me a little worried. and we also caught the orange sun and the dust all over the cars.
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Getting a bit blowy here and the odd branch snapped off
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OMG! I can even see the leaves moving on the trees outside now. :o
<retreats to makeshift shelter>
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I'm sure we will get used to lots of weird coloured sky's and radiation effects once Trump & DPRK start throwing instant sunshine at each other. ::) ::) ::) Remember that DPRK is in the Northern Hemisphere about level with Spain. :o :o :o
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I had a bit of a bumpy ride into Bristol Airport earlier, but the strange thing was that as we descended through the cloud there was a horrible smell of burning in the cabin, which had a few people looking around anxiously. :-\
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-41639386
What was also weird was for a while we were in a strange 'cloud sandwich' where the plane was in clear air but there was a flat dense layer of cloud just above and below and the light was almost sepia tone! :o Now I know it was caused by the apocalyptic looking red sun which I saw as I was hunting for my car in the car park. ::) ;)
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I had a bit of a bumpy ride into Bristol Airport earlier, but the strange thing was that as we descended through the cloud there was a horrible smell of burning in the cabin, which had a few people looking around anxiously. :-\
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-41639386
What was also weird was for a while we were in a strange 'cloud sandwich' where the plane was in clear air but there was a flat dense layer of cloud just above and below and the light was almost sepia tone! :o Now I know it was caused by the apocalyptic looking red sun which I saw as I was hunting for my car in the car park. ::) ;)
That is strange, as for most of this afternoon we have had a strange sepia coloured cloud sitting over this part of Kent which when it started produced a very red sun. ;)
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I wonder if the fires in California and recent weather patterns have something to do with the burning smell in Britain? :-\ :-\
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Hi Lizzie
Burning smell in UK is caused by the Spain and Portugal fires. Smoke was directly transported north by Orphelias storm field.
Rolf
By the way....unclouded here all day long, light southern winds and max. temperature 26,1 C. October goes summer!
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Sky had a green tinge around lunchtmie here, followed by an orangey haze, followed by bright sunshine. A bit of a stiff breeze, fortunately most of the neighbours aren't too stupid to put bins out tonight (esp those stupid little food waste ones we have to use), so hopefully cars will survive.
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Sky had a green tinge around lunchtmie here, followed by an orangey haze, followed by bright sunshine. A bit of a stiff breeze, fortunately most of the neighbours aren't too stupid to put bins out tonight (esp those stupid little food waste ones we have to use), so hopefully cars will survive.
Those food waste bins make excellent buckets for car washing using the 2 bucket method. Smaller one with soap in, larger one with water, and a handy carrying handle too. :y
'cos I CBA to recycle food waste. Food + waste? Doesn't compute. :P
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Hi Lizzie
Burning smell in UK is caused by the Spain and Portugal fires. Smoke was directly transported north by Orphelias storm field.
Rolf
By the way....unclouded here all day long, light southern winds and max. temperature 26,1 C. October goes summer!
Thanks Rolf. That would explain it 8) :y :y
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Sky had a green tinge around lunchtmie here, followed by an orangey haze, followed by bright sunshine. A bit of a stiff breeze, fortunately most of the neighbours aren't too stupid to put bins out tonight (esp those stupid little food waste ones we have to use), so hopefully cars will survive.
Those food waste bins make excellent buckets for car washing using the 2 bucket method. Smaller one with soap in, larger one with water, and a handy carrying handle too. :y
'cos I CBA to recycle food waste. Food + waste? Doesn't compute. :P
Only the bin police will not empty the wheelie bins unless your food waste basket is out. And with fortnightly collections, that becomes problematic.
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Hi Lizzie
Burning smell in UK is caused by the Spain and Portugal fires. Smoke was directly transported north by Orphelias storm field.
Rolf
By the way....unclouded here all day long, light southern winds and max. temperature 26,1 C. October goes summer!
Thanks Rolf. That would explain it 8) :y :y
Our news has also added that dust from the Sahara Desert, along with the Spanish fires, is also to blame for our strange coloured skies. :)
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Hi Lizzie
Sahara dust is not unusual here in South Germany. East Atlantic Zyclon warm fronts brings it often from the south. Cars are orange powdered than.
Last winter we had red snow in the Alps....
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Hi Lizzie
Sahara dust is not unusual here in South Germany. East Atlantic Zyclon warm fronts brings it often from the south. Cars are orange powdered than.
Last winter we had red snow in the Alps....
Thanks, that's interesting :y :y
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I had a bit of a bumpy ride into Bristol Airport earlier, but the strange thing was that as we descended through the cloud there was a horrible smell of burning in the cabin, which had a few people looking around anxiously. :-\
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-41639386
What was also weird was for a while we were in a strange 'cloud sandwich' where the plane was in clear air but there was a flat dense layer of cloud just above and below and the light was almost sepia tone! :o Now I know it was caused by the apocalyptic looking red sun which I saw as I was hunting for my car in the car park. ::) ;)
There were 5 or 6 "emergency" diverts yesterday in the west of the UK and Eire for civilian airliners reporting smoke in the cabin and burning smells in the cockpit. All of these are believed to have been due to smoke from the Portugal/Spain fires getting into the aircraft air conditioning, and not due to any actual aircraft faults.
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I observed weather over many many years. But something like that I never saw before on the GFS (Global Forecast System)
The tropical storm Orphelia is far southwest of the Azores in the moment. Latest forecast shows that Orphelia will strength to a category 2 hurricane with northeast routing.
The GFS model is counting that Orphelia will reach northwest Ireland Monday afternoon :o
Rolf
I feel I have enough information to definitively answer your question now...........yes.
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Only the bin police will not empty the wheelie bins unless your food waste basket is out. And with fortnightly collections, that becomes problematic.
You need to move to more civilised parts, TB! No such problems here ;) (The previous owners had lost the large food bin so we didn't have one for nearly a year.. until I stopped suffering a bout of CBA and ordered a replacement for £0)
Walking the dog yesterday looked a lot like this thanks to Ophelia:
(https://media.giphy.com/media/3ohzdKLJTw15P7yo7K/giphy.gif)
(Unfortunately it did not magically make me look like Ryan Gosling)
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Well , it came and went.
The prophesy was akin to the end of the world but although strong it was a poor comparison to other recent storms ,particularly one three years ago which was devastating.
I believe that areas further east of here were badly effected but this coastal area had very little damage .
I think the Irish Met office had bought a new laptop with windows 7 and wanted to show how proficient they had become .
Lost power for 24 hours though and that was purgatory . I had to endure being imprisoned with a sister in law who is a pathological narcissist ,after 12 hours of suffering I swung between suicide and murder .
The latter won .......