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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: TD on 21 October 2017, 17:09:57
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Recently I have been unable to login to my online bank account.
I can get to the main webpage but then when I hit the button that says login and then it should prompt me for my username and password.
But it doesn't...at that point it just says unable to reach website.
This using my notebook and using my desktop.
If I disconnect from my router and connect to my mobile phone....its works fine over that data connection.
So, looks like my notebook is fine and its either a router problem (reset several times) or an ISP problem :-\
Any thoughts ?? I want to swap the router over for another one to test it, but I have to wait for my ISP to tell me my password....As I haven't a clue and carnt find the paperwork that they sent me years ago telling me what it was ::)
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Isn,t the password etc. on the bottom of the router? :-\
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Isn,t the password etc. on the bottom of the router? :-\
Ummm....no ive looked, login details were mailed to me....which ive since lost....
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Is your Browser up to date?, a lot of Bank logins require that these days.
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Is your Browser up to date?, a lot of Bank logins require that these days.
The fact I can login using the data connection of my mobile, suggests to me, theres nothing wrong with my notebook ;)
I'm using Edge, but have tried IE as well, no difference.
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Don’t know which bank it is, Dave, but I find the apps much easier.
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Do you have any of those stupid (unsecure) gay "security software" than many banks insist on, such as rapport? If so, uninstall that wank, and try again. Then tell your bank that the software they recommend is problematic.
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Do you have any of those stupid (unsecure) gay "security software" than many banks insist on, such as rapport? If so, uninstall that wank, and try again. Then tell your bank that the software they recommend is problematic.
Nope, just win10 with the standard antivirus/security that comes with.....
Again I cannot see how its my notebook at fault as it works fine over mobile data connection... :-\
Bank is Co-op...
www.co-operativebank.co.uk
I can get there fine....then on top right is drop down menu....select 'log in to personal online banking' and it should bring up a page asking for login and password .... but for me over adsl connection all I get is 'carnt reach this page' .....
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Do you have any of those stupid (unsecure) gay "security software" than many banks insist on, such as rapport? If so, uninstall that wank, and try again. Then tell your bank that the software they recommend is problematic.
My bank (NW) recommends Rapport. I installed it a while back, desktop slowed to a crawl and became almost unusable. I uninstalled Rapport, everything back to normal. It's crap.
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A brief report of Rapport (http://www.advantage77.com/2014/09/03/rapport-more-problems-than-its-worth/), I have read elsewhere that it isn`t good.
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Do you have any of those stupid (unsecure) gay "security software" than many banks insist on, such as rapport? If so, uninstall that wank, and try again. Then tell your bank that the software they recommend is problematic.
Nope, just win10 with the standard antivirus/security that comes with.....
Again I cannot see how its my notebook at fault as it works fine over mobile data connection... :-\
Bank is Co-op...
www.co-operativebank.co.uk
I can get there fine....then on top right is drop down menu....select 'log in to personal online banking' and it should bring up a page asking for login and password .... but for me over adsl connection all I get is 'carnt reach this page' .....
Is the ISP either:
a) shite
b) one of those that interfers with some sites due to legal requirements and/or porn filtering?
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Do you have any of those stupid (unsecure) gay "security software" than many banks insist on, such as rapport? If so, uninstall that wank, and try again. Then tell your bank that the software they recommend is problematic.
Nope, just win10 with the standard antivirus/security that comes with.....
Again I cannot see how its my notebook at fault as it works fine over mobile data connection... :-\
Bank is Co-op...
www.co-operativebank.co.uk
I can get there fine....then on top right is drop down menu....select 'log in to personal online banking' and it should bring up a page asking for login and password .... but for me over adsl connection all I get is 'carnt reach this page' .....
Straw clutching ...perhaps ... :(
Does that login-window count as a "pop-up" and you have "pop-ups" disabled in your browser ?? so the pop-up is being blocked .. ?? :-\ :-\
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A brief report of Rapport (http://www.advantage77.com/2014/09/03/rapport-more-problems-than-its-worth/), I have read elsewhere that it isn`t good.
only problem i have seen with rapport is occasionally they lag behind Chrome releases resulting in rapport not protecting a bank login page as it should. never seen it cause a problem itself.
unlike some of the products the site in that link promotes eg Avast! >:(
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Bizzare!!
It is now working over adsl connection.....
I have changed nothing on notebook....or anything else....
I am thinking of changing ISP as my fixed 2 yo deal has ended.....but who to change to??
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A brief report of Rapport (http://www.advantage77.com/2014/09/03/rapport-more-problems-than-its-worth/), I have read elsewhere that it isn`t good.
only problem i have seen with rapport is occasionally they lag behind Chrome releases resulting in rapport not protecting a bank login page as it should. never seen it cause a problem itself.
unlike some of the products the site in that link promotes eg Avast! >:(
Class yourself one of the lucky few.
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A brief report of Rapport (http://www.advantage77.com/2014/09/03/rapport-more-problems-than-its-worth/), I have read elsewhere that it isn`t good.
only problem i have seen with rapport is occasionally they lag behind Chrome releases resulting in rapport not protecting a bank login page as it should. never seen it cause a problem itself.
unlike some of the products the site in that link promotes eg Avast! >:(
Class yourself one of the lucky few.
The majority of the major UK banks still recommend IBM's Rapport :y.
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A brief report of Rapport (http://www.advantage77.com/2014/09/03/rapport-more-problems-than-its-worth/), I have read elsewhere that it isn`t good.
only problem i have seen with rapport is occasionally they lag behind Chrome releases resulting in rapport not protecting a bank login page as it should. never seen it cause a problem itself.
unlike some of the products the site in that link promotes eg Avast! >:(
Class yourself one of the lucky few.
The majority of the major UK banks still recommend IBM's Rapport :y.
And that's not based on technical reasons, but commercials. Think along the lines of "we'll give you a discount on your shiny Z series hardware support if you get our shitty software on millions of devices"
Rapport is known to be problematic. Trust me on this ;)
Just because I recommend some boil their heads, that doesn't mean they should.
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The majority of the major UK banks still recommend IBM's Rapport :y.
And that's not based on technical reasons, but commercials. Think along the lines of "we'll give you a discount on your shiny Z series hardware support if you get our shitty software on millions of devices"
that would make sense if all the banks that recommend IBM rapport used IBM hardware. they don't.
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Barclays recommend the Ruskies :o
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The majority of the major UK banks still recommend IBM's Rapport :y.
And that's not based on technical reasons, but commercials. Think along the lines of "we'll give you a discount on your shiny Z series hardware support if you get our shitty software on millions of devices"
that would make sense if all the banks that recommend IBM rapport used IBM hardware. they don't.
That was an example. Bloody hell you are hard work.
OK "we'll give you $1m to shove our shit on plebs PCs, as you don't use any of our hardware, software, or support (unlikely)"
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I've never installed Rapport, or any of those other bobbins bits of security. What is it supposed to do that simply operating over https does not?
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I've never installed Rapport, or any of those other bobbins bits of security. What is it supposed to do that simply operating over https does not?
It performs client-side inspection; looking for keyloggers, browser hooks etc etc, which HTTPS means nought to - it's no good securing the data in-transit if it's already been stolen when it was at-rest :) https://krebsonsecurity.com/2010/04/a-closer-look-at-rapport-from-trusteer/
There are other solutions that require no client-side install, but they are more complex for the site owner to implement (disclosure: I work for a company selling one such solution) as they require tight integration with the site itself rather than a "drop in" client side application.
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So to simplify it, most products are mere fences, where as what you offer is more of a custom bunker with the core system integrated into the very fabric of it...
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I've never installed Rapport, or any of those other bobbins bits of security. What is it supposed to do that simply operating over https does not?
It performs client-side inspection; looking for keyloggers, browser hooks etc etc, which HTTPS means nought to - it's no good securing the data in-transit if it's already been stolen when it was at-rest :) https://krebsonsecurity.com/2010/04/a-closer-look-at-rapport-from-trusteer/
There are other solutions that require no client-side install, but they are more complex for the site owner to implement (disclosure: I work for a company selling one such solution) as they require tight integration with the site itself rather than a "drop in" client side application.
thanks its nice to see a link here that is reasonable and rational and not FUD. :y
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So to simplify it, most products are mere fences, where as what you offer is more of a custom bunker with the core system integrated into the very fabric of it...
When you get down to it all security products are really just fences of differing heights.. some are 3' chain link, some are 18' concrete, but given sufficient time and resources and attacker can (and will) get past any of them ;) (especially if they're nation state!)
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There are other solutions that require no client-side install, but they are more complex for the site owner to implement (disclosure: I work for a company selling one such solution) as they require tight integration with the site itself rather than a "drop in" client side application.
I was using some of "your" products, still in their boxes since you shipped them nearly a year ago, as a table and a step ladder the other day. Most expensive table I've ever used as a step ladder ;D
As you know, but others may not, if you control the client, you can do what you like in the middle - including on the fly decryption of https. And redirection of all traffic, encrypted or otherwise :-X
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So to simplify it, most products are mere fences, where as what you offer is more of a custom bunker with the core system integrated into the very fabric of it...
When you get down to it all security products are really just fences of differing heights.. some are 3' chain link, some are 18' concrete, but given sufficient time and resources and attacker can (and will) get past any of them ;) (especially if they're nation state!)
Absolutely. Although these fences often conflict with one another, in the same way running 2 AV solutions can trip up (and REMOVE!!) the other.
Rapport is seen to be too buggy and inconsistent to be recommended by most independent consultants. Mind you, Kaspersky is also going through a bad time at the moment, with constant rumblings that won't go away that the Russian authorities have code in there to give back door access. And Symantec as well, given their business' of SSL certificates (through subsidiary Verisign) and border inspection (subsidiary Bluecoat), and "accidentally" signing Bluecoat's scanner's internal intermediate certificate - meaning a Bluecoat scanner can decrypt any PKI encrypted traffic, including https, irrespective of the client trusting Bluecoat (now Bluecoat claim that has never been sent outside of its test labs, but I suspect that the large US authorities have the capability)
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In other words, if you want it to be secure, use this envelope and a stamp. :y
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In other words, if you want it to be secure, use this envelope and a stamp. :y
Not really, as that's susceptible to MiM as well.
Deliver by hand ;)
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The majority of the major UK banks still recommend IBM's Rapport :y.
And that's not based on technical reasons, but commercials. Think along the lines of "we'll give you a discount on your shiny Z series hardware support if you get our shitty software on millions of devices"
that would make sense if all the banks that recommend IBM rapport used IBM hardware. they don't.
That was an example. Bloody hell you are hard work. Bloody hell you don't always agree with every precious word I say
OK "we'll give you $1m to shove our shit on plebs PCs, as you don't use any of our hardware, software, or support (unlikely)"
fixed that for you :y
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Bizzare!!
It is now working over adsl connection.....
I have changed nothing on notebook....or anything else....
I am thinking of changing ISP as my fixed 2 yo deal has ended.....but who to change to??
BT & EE are offering good cashback offers at present via TCB. :y
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Bizzare!!
It is now working over adsl connection.....
I have changed nothing on notebook....or anything else....
I am thinking of changing ISP as my fixed 2 yo deal has ended.....but who to change to??
BT & EE are offering good cashback offers at present via TCB. :y
Aren't they one and the same, along with PlusNet ;D
(Actually, no, not quite :-X)
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Bizzare!!
It is now working over adsl connection.....
I have changed nothing on notebook....or anything else....
I am thinking of changing ISP as my fixed 2 yo deal has ended.....but who to change to??
BT & EE are offering good cashback offers at present via TCB. :y
Just checked them out.....not so good cashback deals for 17MB connection.....and you have to pay more/month :(
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In other words, if you want it to be secure, use this envelope and a stamp. :y
Not really, as that's susceptible to MiM as well.
Deliver by hand ;)
It's worse than that, actually. It's susceptible to Royal Mail. ;)
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In other words, if you want it to be secure, use this envelope and a stamp. :y
Not really, as that's susceptible to MiM as well.
Deliver by hand ;)
Even that's hopeless.
If you want something to be secure, don't write it down and never, ever tell anyone else. Only snag is, that all makes doing stuff quite tricky :)
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Bizzare!!
It is now working over adsl connection.....
I have changed nothing on notebook....or anything else....
I am thinking of changing ISP as my fixed 2 yo deal has ended.....but who to change to??
BT & EE are offering good cashback offers at present via TCB. :y
Just checked them out.....not so good cashback deals for 17MB connection.....and you have to pay more/month :(
To be honest I didn't investigate the deal, but I am on 36mbps or similar at present with Plusnet, and due contract it would cost me £114 to leave. Vodafone offered me a good broadband deal to leave Plusnet BB when I left VF mobile service for Plusnet mobile (EE) at half the price this week. :-\ :-\ :-\ Go figure!