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Title: One for Guffer
Post by: STEMO on 29 October 2017, 08:07:41
Killer Mitsubishi lies in wait for cyclist:


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-41789888

 ;D
Title: Re: One for Guffer
Post by: Bigron on 29 October 2017, 08:16:06
Hard to see how they can blame the motorist for this - but I'm sure they will find a way!

Ron.
Title: Re: One for Guffer
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 29 October 2017, 08:36:24
What no video of the parked Mitsubishi jumping out in front of the unfortunate cyclist?  :-\

C'mon Uncle STEMO your losing your touch!  ;D
Title: Re: One for Guffer
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 29 October 2017, 08:37:29
Apparently the car was parked on the pavement  :D
Title: Re: One for Guffer
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 29 October 2017, 09:30:24
Apparently the car was parked on the pavement  :D

Oh dear, then they will fully blame the motorist and prosecute on a charge of manslaughter!  The poor cyclist's family will have their revenge. ::) ::) ::)

The fact that the cyclist was not looking where he was going will be treated as a minor fact ::) ::) >:(
Title: Re: One for Guffer
Post by: Bigron on 29 October 2017, 11:04:57
No, and also riding illegally oin the pavement?

Ron.
Title: Re: One for Guffer
Post by: Gaffers on 29 October 2017, 14:06:54
The fact that you make a poor joke out of somebody's death shows your true colours.
Title: Re: One for Guffer
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 29 October 2017, 14:28:21
The fact that you make a poor joke out of somebody's death shows your true colours.

It is not a case of making fun out of anybody's death as I am sure all of us feel very sorry for his family.

No, the so called "joke" is just stating the often noted possibility that the car driver will always be prosecuted, but the cyclist not, apart from the recent case when even the very preventable death of a pedestrian by a cyclist received a very light sentence relevant to the crime.
Title: Re: One for Guffer
Post by: STEMO on 29 October 2017, 14:56:18
The fact that you make a poor joke out of somebody's death shows your true colours.

It is not a case of making fun out of anybody's death as I am sure all of us feel very sorry for his family.

No, the so called "joke" is just stating the often noted possibility that the car driver will always be prosecuted, but the cyclist not, apart from the recent case when even the very preventable death of a pedestrian by a cyclist received a very light sentence relevant to the crime.

Erm.......nah......it’s funny  ;D
Title: Re: One for Guffer
Post by: Gaffers on 29 October 2017, 15:17:10
Debate, discussion and education about such matters are things i like to get involved with.

This is callous.

I know from experience exactly what the family is going through right now and i can tell you that blame is the last thing on their mind.

Title: Re: One for Guffer
Post by: ronnyd on 29 October 2017, 16:23:15
Apparently the car was parked on the pavement  :D
Couldn,t see that on the linked report. :-\ Tragic whatever the circumstances.  :(
Title: Re: One for Guffer
Post by: Bigron on 29 October 2017, 16:29:39
Debate, discussion and education about such matters are things i like to get involved with.

This is callous.

I know from experience exactly what the family is going through right now and i can tell you that blame is the last thing on their mind.

Guffer, I DO feel for the family and the cyclist, of course - I'm not THAT callous. My comment regarding blame was not aimed at the family, but at Plod, who looks for any opportunity to attack the motorist - you KNOW that to be true from your own observations......

Ron.
Title: Re: One for Guffer
Post by: Gaffers on 29 October 2017, 16:58:34
Debate, discussion and education about such matters are things i like to get involved with.

This is callous.

I know from experience exactly what the family is going through right now and i can tell you that blame is the last thing on their mind.

Guffer, I DO feel for the family and the cyclist, of course - I'm not THAT callous. My comment regarding blame was not aimed at the family, but at Plod, who looks for any opportunity to attack the motorist - you KNOW that to be true from your own observations......

Ron.

Actually I find it very hit and miss. When they can prove thwre was blame they go for it. If therr is no camera footage or a lack of a clear cut case they couldn't care less.

I was once rammed off a road by a white van for no other reason than he thought that je should be the one following the car in front at 30mph (downhill in Sheffield). After flying over a parked car i landed at the feet of 2 coppers. They did nothing despite seeing everything including the overtake, the swerve in to my side, my crash, the damage to the parked car, to my bike and of course me.  In the cycling community it is well known that the burden of proof to get a conviction is very high and 9 times out of 10 this level will not be reached and the person at fault will not be pursued by the plod.

As an aside my contents insurance paid for the damage to the parked car and i had to pay for the repairs to my bike. As the police did not pursue the crime there was no recourse against the van driver.
Title: Re: One for Guffer
Post by: Bigron on 29 October 2017, 17:04:40
They wouldn't even give you a crime number? Nobody got his Reg. No., I presume?

Ron.
Title: Re: One for Guffer
Post by: Gaffers on 29 October 2017, 17:12:27
I did. The police just didn't care.
Title: Re: One for Guffer
Post by: Gaffers on 29 October 2017, 17:21:29
And that's one of a few incidents i have had over the years where the police couldn't give a shit.

Besides, that is beside the point. Using someone's death to make a joke is callous and i won't stand by idly. If it was a relative of yours i am sure  that such a conversation would upset you.
Title: Re: One for Guffer
Post by: Bigron on 29 October 2017, 17:24:07
That in itself is criminal - what do we pay them for?
I actually meant if you had the Reg. No. maybe your insurance company could pursue the claim?
They are happy to take your premium.....

Ron.
Title: Re: One for Guffer
Post by: Gaffers on 29 October 2017, 17:29:57
Thats par for the course.
Title: Re: One for Guffer
Post by: STEMO on 29 October 2017, 17:44:18
Just another Darwin Award winner to me, there are plenty of them about whether they be cyclists or not.
Title: Re: One for Guffer
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 29 October 2017, 19:05:16
For the record, the comment regarding the car being parked on the pavement was indeed a very cheap of the cuff remark made without factual basis or second thought :-[ And for that I apologise.

It's a sorry state of affairs, but the sad reality is that people die every day without so much as a blink...
Title: Re: One for Guffer
Post by: Andy B on 29 October 2017, 20:24:11
I did. The police just didn't care.

A HGV side swiped friends of ours in their car. The HGVs reg number was taken & still Plod couldn't care less ..... do not just lycra'd cyclists
Title: Re: One for Guffer
Post by: Mr Gav on 30 October 2017, 09:03:20
I did. The police just didn't care.

I would have made a complaint against the police in that case, clearly neglect on their part.