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Title: Musically Gone From the Early 20th Century to 21st Century
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 31 December 2017, 14:04:23
From playing wax 78 rpm records from the turn of the last century, such as Errico Caruso's The Lost Chord of about 1905 (single sided records).going through the 1930's, 40's, 50's and then the vinyl 33.3's, 45's, with cassettes of the 1960's, 70's, then the CD's of 1980's onwards, I have gone musically young again and joined the "streaming" revolution.

I am 16 again, downloading music from Amazon Music and Apple Music onto devices galour, via Bluetooth, playing it all through sound bars, iPads,  iPhones and iPod's.  I can see now why the young love it; no more buying "records" in shops with 40 Million (to quote Apple) songs available to me and my grandsons under a monthly membership scheme. All so easy, and I have already downloaded all my albums and singles of the past, along with current music. Fantastic!! :y :y :y :y
Title: Re: Musically Gone From the Early 20th Century to 21st Century
Post by: TheBoy on 31 December 2017, 14:42:02
I like being old fashioned.  I like to have something tangiable. So I buy CDs. If I need them on other devices, I can do so, irrespective of whether crApple, Amshambles or anyone else goes tits up or not.


The young are just lazy (and a bit green)
Title: Re: Musically Gone From the Early 20th Century to 21st Century
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 31 December 2017, 15:14:41
Ah, The great Caruso. There wasa man who could really sing.  :y
Since the mid 80,s I have maintained that there is no reproductive sound which matches the quality of a vinyl record.It seems the rest of the world is starting to agree with me.  :)
Title: Re: Musically Gone From the Early 20th Century to 21st Century
Post by: STEMO on 31 December 2017, 15:15:22
This was the problem I tried to explain to wifey. She pays £7.99 a month for iTunes/Apple music and tells me she can download as many albums as she likes. The thing is, the minute she stops paying £7.99 a month, she actually owns nothing.
Title: Re: Musically Gone From the Early 20th Century to 21st Century
Post by: Varche on 31 December 2017, 15:21:16
We have gone the opposite way through technology. 15 years ago we had many many tracks on our PC's obtained using Kazaa and a decent internet. They all vanished. Now we have a crappy 20GB a month service so we have resorted to buying CD's again.....
Title: Re: Musically Gone From the Early 20th Century to 21st Century
Post by: Kevin Wood on 31 December 2017, 15:30:44
Apparently Vinyl is all the rage now. ;)

It'll be cassettes again soon. <shudder>  ;D
Title: Re: Musically Gone From the Early 20th Century to 21st Century
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 31 December 2017, 15:45:37
I'm feeling deflated!

Just when I thought I had mastered all the in, cool, stuff on streaming according to all of you the past is now the best, and we are going backwards!

Oh well, Back to the Future eh? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Musically Gone From the Early 20th Century to 21st Century
Post by: Varche on 31 December 2017, 15:52:07
I'm feeling deflated!

Just when I thought I had mastered all the in, cool, stuff on streaming according to all of you the past is now the best, and we are going backwards!

Oh well, Back to the Future eh? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)

You can only master technology if you are aged 3 to 20. Older people like me are its servant ;D
Title: Re: Musically Gone From the Early 20th Century to 21st Century
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 31 December 2017, 15:53:08
Apparently Vinyl is all the rage now. ;)

It'll be cassettes again soon. <shudder>  ;D

Great! Then we'll be able to record compilation tapes from the radio again!  ;D

Title: Re: Musically Gone From the Early 20th Century to 21st Century
Post by: Andy B on 31 December 2017, 15:56:01
I like being old fashioned.  I like to have something tangiable. So I buy CDs. If I need them on other devices, I can do so, irrespective of whether crApple, Amshambles or anyone else goes tits up or not.


The young are just lazy (and a bit green)

Agreed. And when you pop this mortal coil, your CDs can be passed onto someone (if they want them) but not if they're Apple down loads.  ;)
Title: Re: Musically Gone From the Early 20th Century to 21st Century
Post by: Mr Gav on 31 December 2017, 15:56:25
Apparently Vinyl is all the rage now. ;)

It'll be cassettes again soon. <shudder>  ;D

I would like to think people aren`t that stupid  ;D
From playing wax 78 rpm records from the turn of the last century, such as Errico Caruso's The Lost Chord of about 1905 (single sided records).going through the 1930's, 40's, 50's and then the vinyl 33.3's, 45's, with cassettes of the 1960's, 70's, then the CD's of 1980's onwards, I have gone musically young again and joined the "streaming" revolution.

I am 16 again, downloading music from Amazon Music and Apple Music onto devices galour, via Bluetooth, playing it all through sound bars, iPads,  iPhones and iPod's.  I can see now why the young love it; no more buying "records" in shops with 40 Million (to quote Apple) songs available to me and my grandsons under a monthly membership scheme. All so easy, and I have already downloaded all my albums and singles of the past, along with current music. Fantastic!! :y :y :y :y

I used to love going to record shops and fairs in my youth and buying vinyl, and I bought my first vinyl for about 20 years earlier this year  ;D
Title: Re: Musically Gone From the Early 20th Century to 21st Century
Post by: redelitev6 on 31 December 2017, 16:12:23
Bring back 8 track stereo , they were proper tapes !
Title: Re: Musically Gone From the Early 20th Century to 21st Century
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 31 December 2017, 16:14:29
Can you still buy blank tapes?  ???
Title: Re: Musically Gone From the Early 20th Century to 21st Century
Post by: Keith ABS on 31 December 2017, 16:27:16
  Yea, 8 tracks. The size of video cassettes. Only enough room in the car for two

Keith ABS
Title: Re: Musically Gone From the Early 20th Century to 21st Century
Post by: Rods2 on 31 December 2017, 16:29:46
I do use youtube at times to listen to different groups and if I like their music I will then buy one or more of their CD's. If I want to read about something in depth I buy books on the subject and will very occasionally buy a DVD. If I'm spending money on something I like to own not lease it so as soon as I stop the subscription I have nothing. MP3 files are poor compared with CD's which in turn aren't as good as vinyl if it is a good pressing, many weren't in the pre-CD era. There are retro markets in many areas where the limitations of that era meant the important parts that entertain had to be done well. Many older films are much more enjoyable where excellent directing, casting, great individual performances and imaginative scripts carry the poor images compared to today. These days most films seem to have me-too, same corny lines scripting aimed at entertaining pre-12 year olds, which are often carried by dubious CGI. Most modern films and virtually all television I find tedious and boring, so I don't bother. I would rather be listening to music, reading or interacting with people online and very often all three of these at the same time. :y

Online reference manuals are great for quick referencing relevant information, as are news feeds, blogs and Twitter for current affairs. Modern technology has its place and the Internet is a brilliant resource for research, finding and buying products and services and current affairs. When I think back to how time consuming it was keeping yourself current with the latest electronic components with printed catalogs, trade magazines and subscribing to receive manufacturers data sheets or phoning round for insurance quotes etc., how much faster and more efficient it is using the Internet for this.

Where most people these days use a mobile phone and maybe also a tablet for all their computing needs and with youngsters it seems to be the first thing picked up in the morning and the last thing put down at night. Many people don't seem to understand why a PC is at the centre of my computing needs until I explain with my poor eyesight a 19" screen is much better than a 2"x5" one, a proper keyboard is much faster for data entry than a multiple overlay touch screen one and calling me on my landline where I have 4 phones around the house means I don't miss calls when I'm at home and if it is not answered then try my mobile, which I only carry with me when I'm out, where touch screen phones are difficult to protect and carry around the house compared to earlier phones.

It boils down to using technology in ways that personally enhance your life and suit you and making sure you are its master and not its slave. :y
Title: Re: Musically Gone From the Early 20th Century to 21st Century
Post by: Mister Rog on 31 December 2017, 16:47:31
Apparently Vinyl is all the rage now. ;)

It'll be cassettes again soon. <shudder>  ;D

Tell me about it . . . .

Bought loads of vinyl in my youth . . .
Then prerecorded tapes . . .
Then CDs . . . .
Avoided downloads, and certainly iTunes
Now back to Vinyl again

Nope. I'm sticking with CDs, although I do rip them at 320 bitrate and put them on a memory stick
Title: Re: Musically Gone From the Early 20th Century to 21st Century
Post by: Varche on 31 December 2017, 18:21:26
Apparently Vinyl is all the rage now. ;)

It'll be cassettes again soon. <shudder>  ;D

Tell me about it . . . .

Bought loads of vinyl in my youth . . .
Then prerecorded tapes . . .
Then CDs . . . .
Avoided downloads, and certainly iTunes
Now back to Vinyl again

Nope. I'm sticking with CDs, although I do rip them at 320 bitrate and put them on a memory stick

Speak English man. I converted a Pink Floyd concert Utube video clip into a music file and it plays fine on the PC. Converted it into this MP3 milarkey and it doesn't play on my car Hi Fi   But then I am older, just ,than 20
Title: Re: Musically Gone From the Early 20th Century to 21st Century
Post by: Mister Rog on 31 December 2017, 18:31:02
Apparently Vinyl is all the rage now. ;)

It'll be cassettes again soon. <shudder>  ;D

Tell me about it . . . .

Bought loads of vinyl in my youth . . .
Then prerecorded tapes . . .
Then CDs . . . .
Avoided downloads, and certainly iTunes
Now back to Vinyl again

Nope. I'm sticking with CDs, although I do rip them at 320 bitrate and put them on a memory stick

Speak English man. I converted a Pink Floyd concert Utube video clip into a music file and it plays fine on the PC. Converted it into this MP3 milarkey and it doesn't play on my car Hi Fi   But then I am older, just ,than 20

Don't worry, maybe they will have a phonograph version for you  ;)

Title: Re: Musically Gone From the Early 20th Century to 21st Century
Post by: Varche on 31 December 2017, 18:43:02
ha, titter ye not. I have an 8 track and some tapes somewhere. You will be too young to remember those. One day it will be worth £10 or £12. :y
Title: Re: Musically Gone From the Early 20th Century to 21st Century
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 31 December 2017, 19:25:26
ha, titter ye not. I have an 8 track and some tapes somewhere. You will be too young to remember those. One day it will be worth £10 or £12. :y

Back in the seventies the girl I fancied the pants off was seduced by a smarmy little shit with a Capri 3000E ( yellow with a BVR) complete with an 8 track.

I mean, what chance did I stand?

Title: Re: Musically Gone From the Early 20th Century to 21st Century
Post by: Nick W on 31 December 2017, 19:28:40
ha, titter ye not. I have an 8 track and some tapes somewhere. You will be too young to remember those. One day it will be worth £10 or £12. :y

Back in the seventies the girl I fancied the pants off was seduced by a smarmy little shit with a Capri 3000E ( yellow with a BVR) complete with an 8 track.

I mean, what chance did I stand?


perhaps you could have dyed your hair for a vinyl roof of your own?
Title: Re: Musically Gone From the Early 20th Century to 21st Century
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 31 December 2017, 19:32:11
ha, titter ye not. I have an 8 track and some tapes somewhere. You will be too young to remember those. One day it will be worth £10 or £12. :y

Back in the seventies the girl I fancied the pants off was seduced by a smarmy little shit with a Capri 3000E ( yellow with a BVR) complete with an 8 track.

I mean, what chance did I stand?


perhaps you could have dyed your hair for a vinyl roof of your own?

I still remember the car,  It was 'K' reg so 1971/72.

Back in the day plenty of girls were willing to drop their knickers for a boyfriend with a Capri.
Title: Re: Musically Gone From the Early 20th Century to 21st Century
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 31 December 2017, 19:35:16
I'm feeling deflated!

Just when I thought I had mastered all the in, cool, stuff on streaming according to all of you the past is now the best, and we are going backwards!

Oh well, Back to the Future eh? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)

You can only master technology if you are aged 3 to 20. Older people like me are its servant ;D
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And me!!  How right you are Varche! :y : :y






Title: Re: Musically Gone From the Early 20th Century to 21st Century
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 31 December 2017, 19:54:52
I hear what all you old fashioned people (like me!) are saying.  I still love my collection of vinyl, even though my youngest brother has all my LP's in apparent safe keeping. I still have all my 45's, singles and EP's, then my collection of CD's which are a repition of all my vinyls.

But when do I play them? Yes, in the car I play my CD's, but all the vinyls are all just in store. If I buy a new CD, I will play it a dozen times, then file it with the rest!

With this Apple Music malarky I can store as many albums that I am interested in, plus add to my collection, all for just £9.99 per month. Then when I tire of any, I can simply delete and forget them in favour of newer releases. Plus that £9.99 is allowing me to load up a grandsons iPod, two iPads, my PC, and my phone.  All can be played through Bluetooth sound bars, let alone a iPod  docking station.

What could be simpler?  No record decks, no wires, no storage required, and all so transferable under my account log in.  Loss of sound quality? Yes, maybe to the keen music ear, but to me the sound through a soundbar and docking station is perfectly good enough.  It is nothing like the sound coming out of the horn of the wind-up  gammophone I used to own after buying it for 2/- in 1965! ;D ;D :y :y
Title: Re: Musically Gone From the Early 20th Century to 21st Century
Post by: Mister Rog on 31 December 2017, 20:10:21

I have somewhere in the region of 2,000 CDs, plus another couple of hundred vinyl LPs. They're all over the place. On shelves in the kitchen, in drawers in a chest, and even in simple CD racks stacked on top of each other. It's somehow more fun browsing through them instead of looking at or scrolling through a list on a screen. I have CDs in the kitchen ? yes that's where I listen to most music, VERY loud, when cooking  :y

Title: Re: Musically Gone From the Early 20th Century to 21st Century
Post by: Olympia5776 on 31 December 2017, 22:20:02
http://www.jango.com

For general listening i'm using this all the time now at home and in car .
Create your own genre/artist singly or similar.
Be warned though you'll find new artists or old forgotten ones and be straight onto ebay and Music Magpie.
Title: Re: Musically Gone From the Early 20th Century to 21st Century
Post by: 2boxerdogs on 31 December 2017, 23:14:42
Sold all my vinyl earlier this year but every single one has been replaced by CD, not into this ultra modern downloading /streaming .
Title: Re: Musically Gone From the Early 20th Century to 21st Century
Post by: BazaJT on 01 January 2018, 08:24:05
I still have a fair number of records[but at present no record player!]my cassettes I binned a long time ago and I have loads of CDs I've never had any of these new fangled gizmos for listening to music and no intention of getting any either.I'm happy to stick with vinyl/CD/radio.