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Title: Highlight of my day so far
Post by: STEMO on 01 April 2018, 12:44:40
Wifey has just walked in with a plate of toasted hot cross buns smothered in butter. I'll scoff them and, if I can't find anything remotely watchable on the telly (Shaun the fickin sheep has just come on), I can feel a doze coming on.....until Spurs v Chelsea anyway. Might as well make use of the 31 days I've got left to watch sky sports.
Title: Re: Highlight of my day so far
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 01 April 2018, 13:54:32
Don't forget to walk the whippet before you doze  off in front of the TV.
Title: Re: Highlight of my day so far
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 01 April 2018, 13:56:07
Wifey has just walked in with a plate of toasted hot cross buns smothered in butter. I'll scoff them and, if I can't find anything remotely watchable on the telly (Shaun the fickin sheep has just come on), I can feel a doze coming on.....until Spurs v Chelsea anyway. Might as well make use of the 31 days I've got left to watch sky sports.


All 22 born in London, no doubt. :)
Title: Re: Highlight of my day so far
Post by: Nick W on 01 April 2018, 15:36:44
We've just rung a nice quarter peal of Grandsire caters, and I'm now sat in the pub with a pint of porter before heading to my sister's for dinner.

Title: Re: Highlight of my day so far
Post by: TheBoy on 01 April 2018, 16:57:43
We've just rung a nice quarter peal of Grandsire caters, and I'm now sat in the pub with a pint of porter before heading to my sister's for dinner.
I assume there are bells?
Title: Re: Highlight of my day so far
Post by: Nick W on 01 April 2018, 17:27:50
We've just rung a nice quarter peal of Grandsire caters, and I'm now sat in the pub with a pint of porter before heading to my sister's for dinner.
I assume there are bells?


10 of them. Obviously ;)
Title: Re: Highlight of my day so far
Post by: Entwood on 01 April 2018, 17:37:19
We've just rung a nice quarter peal of Grandsire caters, and I'm now sat in the pub with a pint of porter before heading to my sister's for dinner.
I assume there are bells?


10 of them. Obviously ;)

My information says Grandsires always rung on  an ODD number of bells with Grandsire Caters being rung on 9 bells ..

Only on-line reference I can find fast is ..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandsire

:)

Just found this one ...  if I can copy & paste it ...

Number of bells

Methods of change ringing are named for the number of working bells, or the bells that switch order within the change. It takes a pair to switch, and commonly the largest bell (the tenor) does not change place. For example, there may be six bells, only five of which work, allowing for only two pairs. A method of ringing for these bells would be called doubles. Doubles is the most common group of methods rung in the United Kingdom, since 90% of parish churches with bell towers in the UK are fitted with only six bells.

"Plain Bob Doubles" is a method rung on five bells whereas "Plain Bob Triples" is the same method rung on seven working bells.

There are two separate ways to refer to the number of bells. One way is used for even numbers, the other for an odd number.

Even numbers of bells
Number of bells   Name
4   Minimus
6   Minor
8   Major
10   Royal
12   Maximus

Odd numbers of bells
Number of bells   Name
3   Singles
5   Doubles
7   Triples
9   Caters
11   Cinques

The name for 9 bells is pronounced "kate-ers" and comes from the French "quatres". The name for 11 bells also comes from the French and is pronounced "sinks" c.f. Cinque Ports.


Title: Re: Highlight of my day so far
Post by: Nick W on 01 April 2018, 20:05:47
Grandsire is an odd bell method. So caters has 9 working bells, but it's rung with the tenor covering in tenth place. Hence obviously requiring 10 bells.


Amusingly, there's a method called Titanic, which is often rung on 12 bells. Titanic cinques(pronounced sinks)
Title: Re: Highlight of my day so far
Post by: Nick W on 01 April 2018, 21:18:45
And for anyone who is interested, here's a short touch(not the 54 minutes this afternoon) of Grandsire caters on Rochester Cathedral bells: LINK (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rf7vygfb7w4&t=91s)
The striking could have been better.


Title: Re: Highlight of my day so far
Post by: TheBoy on 02 April 2018, 10:58:07
Nick W - never tried it, but once you've started, obviously there is a lot of momentum.  How do you adjust the timing?
Title: Re: Highlight of my day so far
Post by: Nick W on 02 April 2018, 11:05:45
You adjust the length of the rope, how hard or how fast you pull. Or a combination of all three. But due to the momentum and the need to retain it, there's only a small amount of adjustment. Which is why you can't ring music, just changes - where a pair of bells swap places in the order. In caters, four pairs swap each stroke in a memorised pattern.


The tenor you see in that clip is over 1500kg but once it's going, can be rung by an 11 year old girl