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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: feeutfo on 22 July 2008, 10:18:58
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hope this is allowed. ::) She has a vw polo 1.4 16v auto se 2000yr 45k on the clock.. the oil light came on while driving :o4or 5 days ago but the oil level was fine, :-? she drove on no further problems. couple or days later it stalled at a junction. :(so im thiking the oil light flahed up koz it nearly stalled while driving along. But she was unclear if the light stayed on until she pulled over and had gone out by the time she re started, or weather ot just flashed a couple of times. :-/
any ideas? anybody know what the tick over system is on these and where to look? ihave had the air box off and found some white rubber bits or flapper valve on the inlet side of the filter, from a flapper valve 6 inches from the inlet. it tees off to the exhaust manifold and i prusume is some sort of cold staring aid. be suprised if thats it tho. have not investigated further koz she needs the car. no haynes for it in halfords.
anyone know where to start. thanks
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update. Today she lost power while poodling engine
Light came on and a warning buzzer. Pulled over
Stopped car ignition off. Restarted, all ok. Read
On bba reman site that they recon throttle bodies
For the 1.4 symptoms can be loss of power and stalling
130 to recon, aaaaaah.
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scrappy/feebay. :y
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Bloody hell that was quick. Yeah may have to go that
Route. But need to to diagnose a bit better first if i can
I would imagine there would be a fault code stored but
Dont know of any paper clip style tricks to find out what
They are. I guess i will have to find a local with a code
Reader. break arse. Thanks for reply. Sorry for typing
Problem with browser.
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VAG have a rather awful management system on thier cars (originally called Digifant but the trade refer to it as digifart).
It needs a proper diag as it could be a few things including the throttle body
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is a snap on diagnostic good enough from my local
Mech. or do i have to swallow my
pride and visit the VAG' s after telling they they where
all a bunch of %£@¥s (in so many words) last time i was in there. My mrs
Needed to sort a golf as a company car, you would
not believe the stunts they pulled.
The exhaust is loud as well but not leaking, no holes
Its an after market of some sort. And the power steering
pump is leaking and noisy, the fluid seems a bit thick
and sticky to me. Bloody thing, just get myn sorted
And now this starts playing up. Might as well sell the
House and move into the garage at the moment.
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Snap on should read it (there are different models - some require a cartridge).
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ok latest from differant garage,had 2 diag machines on it, bosch said speed sensor fault 513. morrelli engine ecu.. no other codes. the eml light has not come on at any point. bosch didnt know what sensor the code related to ! :-/
2nd machine carman scanII auto box code 00518,throttle valve potentiometer-g69. no engine codes
apparently conflicting info
conclude,as the boy would put it....its gay!
swallow pride and go to vw......Pants! >:(
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Lol, be aware that a number of the 'premium' brands dont raise a fault light for all codes......its a marketing thing you see!
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Lol, be aware that a number of the 'premium' brands dont raise a fault light for all codes......its a marketing thing you see!
is the eml light blue led per chance? ;D
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hope this is allowed. ::) She has a vw polo 1.4 16v auto se 2000yr 45k on the clock.. the oil light came on while driving :o4or 5 days ago but the oil level was fine, :-? she drove on no further problems. couple or days later it stalled at a junction. :(so im thiking the oil light flahed up koz it nearly stalled while driving along. But she was unclear if the light stayed on until she pulled over and had gone out by the time she re started, or weather ot just flashed a couple of times. :-/
any ideas? anybody know what the tick over system is on these and where to look? ihave had the air box off and found some white rubber bits or flapper valve on the inlet side of the filter, from a flapper valve 6 inches from the inlet. it tees off to the exhaust manifold and i prusume is some sort of cold staring aid. be suprised if thats it tho. have not investigated further koz she needs the car. no haynes for it in halfords.
anyone know where to start. thanks
normaly when the buzzer and light come on its a sign of low oil pressure, the cause is usually a blocked breather on the back of the engine its a round disc like shape with a pipe coming out of it,they are pressed in to the block,plus the 1.4 16v were known for doing there headgaskets,that was the 2 most common problems with them at the vw dealer ship where i worked for 6 years,best thing to do is go along to your nearest dealers and speak to the head mechanic..hope this helps.. :y :y
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hope this is allowed. ::) She has a vw polo 1.4 16v auto se 2000yr 45k on the clock.. the oil light came on while driving :o4or 5 days ago but the oil level was fine, :-? she drove on no further problems. couple or days later it stalled at a junction. :(so im thiking the oil light flahed up koz it nearly stalled while driving along. But she was unclear if the light stayed on until she pulled over and had gone out by the time she re started, or weather ot just flashed a couple of times. :-/
any ideas? anybody know what the tick over system is on these and where to look? ihave had the air box off and found some white rubber bits or flapper valve on the inlet side of the filter, from a flapper valve 6 inches from the inlet. it tees off to the exhaust manifold and i prusume is some sort of cold staring aid. be suprised if thats it tho. have not investigated further koz she needs the car. no haynes for it in halfords.
anyone know where to start. thanks
normaly when the buzzer and light come on its a sign of low oil pressure, the cause is usually a blocked breather on the back of the engine its a round disc like shape with a pipe coming out of it,they are pressed in to the block,plus the 1.4 16v were known for doing there headgaskets,that was the 2 most common problems with them at the vw dealer ship where i worked for 6 years,best thing to do is go along to your nearest dealers and speak to the head mechanic..hope this helps.. :y :y
a ha, wondered if it would have such a thing, i'll do that asap anyway cant hurt. will try head mech chat, i dont like the front door route at these places tho cheers for heads up. :y
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hope this is allowed. ::) She has a vw polo 1.4 16v auto se 2000yr 45k on the clock.. the oil light came on while driving :o4or 5 days ago but the oil level was fine, :-? she drove on no further problems. couple or days later it stalled at a junction. :(so im thiking the oil light flahed up koz it nearly stalled while driving along. But she was unclear if the light stayed on until she pulled over and had gone out by the time she re started, or weather ot just flashed a couple of times. :-/
any ideas? anybody know what the tick over system is on these and where to look? ihave had the air box off and found some white rubber bits or flapper valve on the inlet side of the filter, from a flapper valve 6 inches from the inlet. it tees off to the exhaust manifold and i prusume is some sort of cold staring aid. be suprised if thats it tho. have not investigated further koz she needs the car. no haynes for it in halfords.
anyone know where to start. thanks
normaly when the buzzer and light come on its a sign of low oil pressure, the cause is usually a blocked breather on the back of the engine its a round disc like shape with a pipe coming out of it,they are pressed in to the block,plus the 1.4 16v were known for doing there headgaskets,that was the 2 most common problems with them at the vw dealer ship where i worked for 6 years,best thing to do is go along to your nearest dealers and speak to the head mechanic..hope this helps.. :y :y
a ha, wondered if it would have such a thing, i'll do that asap anyway cant hurt. will try head mech chat, i dont like the front door route at these places tho cheers for heads up. :y
you could ask to have a look on the microfiche/computer in the parts dept,to show you where it is, that would save you time and get a price off them aswell ok mate :y
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smashing, thankyou. Will do that.:y
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hope this is allowed. ::) She has a vw polo 1.4 16v auto se 2000yr 45k on the clock.. the oil light came on while driving :o4or 5 days ago but the oil level was fine, :-? she drove on no further problems. couple or days later it stalled at a junction. :(so im thiking the oil light flahed up koz it nearly stalled while driving along. But she was unclear if the light stayed on until she pulled over and had gone out by the time she re started, or weather ot just flashed a couple of times. :-/
any ideas? anybody know what the tick over system is on these and where to look? ihave had the air box off and found some white rubber bits or flapper valve on the inlet side of the filter, from a flapper valve 6 inches from the inlet. it tees off to the exhaust manifold and i prusume is some sort of cold staring aid. be suprised if thats it tho. have not investigated further koz she needs the car. no haynes for it in halfords.
anyone know where to start. thanks
normaly when the buzzer and light come on its a sign of low oil pressure, the cause is usually a blocked breather on the back of the engine its a round disc like shape with a pipe coming out of it,they are pressed in to the block,plus the 1.4 16v were known for doing there headgaskets,that was the 2 most common problems with them at the vw dealer ship where i worked for 6 years,best thing to do is go along to your nearest dealers and speak to the head mechanic..hope this helps.. :y :y
a ha, wondered if it would have such a thing, i'll do that asap anyway cant hurt. will try head mech chat, i dont like the front door route at these places tho cheers for heads up. :y
you could ask to have a look on the microfiche/computer in the parts dept,to show you where it is, that would save you time and get a price off them aswell ok mate :y
Well, its still playing up, had a look at the breathers
and they dont appear to be blocked. Took the air box
off and could see the breather lump on the back of
engine, would say its rectangular in shape and i pig to
get at. The pipe leading to the breather system from
air box has a clip on it but is almost impossible to get
off so i started the engine to see if it was breathing
and could see a nice ploom of oil vapour from it.
But i am a little confused, surely if the breather was
blocked it would cause high oil pressure rather than
low? Only thing i found was the throttle cable not
Clipped into its holder, also seemed a bit loose when
clipped back in so, took some slack out.
Coolant is lovely and clean so i dont think its head
Gaskit has a problem by the way, no mayo anywhere.
I guess its to the dealer, like you said. I bet they
Charge a fortune for a diagnostic?
Cheers
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Has the battery been disconnected lately? It sounds like it has been. The faults in the tranny/engine computers mean that they aren't talking to each other so well. Aftermarket radio?
Disconnect the battery for a couple of minutes. Reconnect it. Turn on the ingnition and do NOT touch the accelerator pedal. Leave the ignition on for 3 minutes before starting the engine. Drive it for a while and see what happens.
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battery not been touched to my knowledge, we had it
6 months or so, but we had agro with abs light
Coming on when we got it. Turned out it was an old
Code that had not been cleared properly. We sorted
It via a snap on diagnostic in the end,no other codes.
All ok until now, standard Radio. Battery not been
Touched since snap on diagnostic defo. Trouble is
guy with the snap on cant do it for a week!
So that leaves me a bit confused with what machine
Will read what codes,
so far snap on no codes in feb.
Bosch and carman2 give 2 differant code a week ago.
Digifart!
Edited. With that in mind im not sure i want to clear
The codes.would it be better to let vag see what is
There at the moment?
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oh ff sake!
£99 plus vat for a vw diagnostic. More for work after
that. Can you beleive it...? Actually yes i can.
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oh ff sake!
£99 plus vat for a vw diagnostic.
OUCH! I felt that from here! :'(
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Oh dont worry, i only phoned to find out the price,
i thought ooh 50 or 60 maybe? no dont be silly that
sounds too reasonable 75, 80tops.
117 bloody pounds??? i aint paying that. It can sit on the drive
as far as im concerned. She doesnt need it for a while
Luckily.
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had the snap on diagnostic done yesterday.
No codes! Presume the last place cleared the speed
Sensor and potentiometer codes. It has not played up
since previous diag. tho, so i guess you would not
expect to see a code anyway.
But this morning when started the abs light stayed
on. She pulled over turned the engine off and
re started, no problem for the rest of the journey.
So with all the diag. done i disconnected the battery
as said above, reset the one touch windows but it did
not ask for a radio code,took it for a long spin.
No problem so far, but early days. Thanks for posts
so far.
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latest, well no problems since "rebooting" the car
By disconnecting the battery. No lights, no buzzers,
Nothing. Fingers crossed. But just in case, the oil light
And buzzer mean low oil pressure as far as we can tell,
so we looked into it and its supposed to be 2 bar at
2500rpm we think. So we pressure tested
before and after an oil/filter change and breather
clean(not blocked) and its 4 bar all
day long. Now either our info is wrong, the pressure
tester is out or the car is reading twice the pressure.
But either way i cant see that the car has a low pressure
problem. So we are assuming the various ecu s have
had a hissy fit and the battery trick has sorted it.
Thanks to all for your help. Chris and Helen.
Ps, dont suppose anybody knows the correct oil
pressure taken at the oil pressure switch for
Definate?
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It will be specified as "at least" 2 bar but without knowing this particular engine 4 bar is perfectly OK, I'd say. It will vary dependant on rpm and temperature of the oil (higher when oil is cold).
The pressure switches usually only need 1/2 a bar or less to extinguish the light. I'd keep an eye on it, just in case it's got a sticky pressure relief valve or something but it certainly sounds OK at the moment.
Did the oil level get low? Only other thing I can think of, so keep an eye on the level too.
Kevin
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We had a similar problem on an older Polo with the oil light / warning buzzer. It turnred out to be a faulty aftermarket oil filter. If this is recurring try a genuine filter, apparently the pressure relief valve in the filter was set for the wrong pressure or something and would not allow the oil to flow correctly. Car had no stalling problems, we changed the oil pressure switch, checked the oil pick up pipe was clear, used an engine flush, connected a pressure gauge etc. etc. and it was the bl---y filter.
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We had a similar problem on an older Polo with the oil light / warning buzzer. It turnred out to be a faulty aftermarket oil filter. If this is recurring try a genuine filter, apparently the pressure relief valve in the filter was set for the wrong pressure or something and would not allow the oil to flow correctly. Car had no stalling problems, we changed the oil pressure switch, checked the oil pick up pipe was clear, used an engine flush, connected a pressure gauge etc. etc. and it was the bl---y filter.
ooh you mention the oil pick up pipe, the sump is leaking a bit round the corner nearest the power steering pump. Easy enough we thought no gaskit just sealent pop it off re seal. But the bloody drive shaft covers half the bolts. And a cable tray covers the other third. How did you do yours?
Have hurd drive shaft easy tbh.
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bloody thing, the Abs light is back on now. Will not go out. Arse.