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Title: Computers...grrrr!
Post by: Nickbat on 16 August 2008, 19:03:54
Decided I would quickly install a new Sata HDD and install XP Pro.

Why won't the wretched PC boot from the OEM CD or recognise the Sata drive (even though I've just formatted it from Win 2k)?  >:(

Think I'll give up and put it down to experience.  :-/
Title: Re: Computers...grrrr!
Post by: CaptainZok on 16 August 2008, 19:16:57
You might need to install a sata driver when XP setup asks for raid drivers Nick.
Had to do this with an old mobo when Tonygnome decided to replace his hd with sata.
You need to put the drivers on floppy and follow the instructions in setup IIRC.
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Post by: Mr Skrunts on 16 August 2008, 19:17:56
Check your Bios settings, should Auto detact.
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Post by: TheBoy on 16 August 2008, 19:25:09
Check the mobo's manufacturers website for a 'text mode' or 'F6' driver :y
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Post by: Omegadoha, Desert Member on 16 August 2008, 19:25:50
Just maybe check that the PC is set to boot from the CD first.
Title: Re: Computers...grrrr!
Post by: Nickbat on 16 August 2008, 20:36:54
Thanks for all your help, guys, ( :y) but I think I'll jack this in (after 5 hours!).

*The BIOS recognises the new Sata drive.
*Have formatted the new drive using Win 2K
*Have tried to get the BIOS to boot from both floppy and CD-ROM.
*Have now got the F6 driver on diskette (thanks TB), but of course until XP starts and asks for it, it's no use.
*On start-up it actually says "Bootable CD-ROM is found"

BUT

I always get the same message: "Reboot and select Boot device or insert boot media in slected boot device and press a key"

Always, no matter what I try. >:(

Think I'll stick with Win2K Pro and the old IDE disks. Much simpler.
Title: Re: Computers...grrrr!
Post by: TheBoy on 16 August 2008, 20:46:10
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Thanks for all your help, guys, ( :y) but I think I'll jack this in (after 5 hours!).

*The BIOS recognises the new Sata drive.
*Have formatted the new drive using Win 2K
*Have tried to get the BIOS to boot from both floppy and CD-ROM.
*Have now got the F6 driver on diskette (thanks TB), but of course until XP starts and asks for it, it's no use.
*On start-up it actually says "Bootable CD-ROM is found"

BUT

I always get the same message: "Reboot and select Boot device or insert boot media in slected boot device and press a key"

Always, no matter what I try. >:(

Think I'll stick with Win2K Pro and the old IDE disks. Much simpler.
Press F6 as soon as the XP install blue screen appears.

But sounds like your XP disk is not bootable.  Is it a genuine one, or a copy?

Worth updating, W2K bit long in the tooth now (as is XP)
Title: Re: Computers...grrrr!
Post by: Nickbat on 16 August 2008, 21:00:21
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Thanks for all your help, guys, ( :y) but I think I'll jack this in (after 5 hours!).

*The BIOS recognises the new Sata drive.
*Have formatted the new drive using Win 2K
*Have tried to get the BIOS to boot from both floppy and CD-ROM.
*Have now got the F6 driver on diskette (thanks TB), but of course until XP starts and asks for it, it's no use.
*On start-up it actually says "Bootable CD-ROM is found"

BUT

I always get the same message: "Reboot and select Boot device or insert boot media in slected boot device and press a key"

Always, no matter what I try. >:(

Think I'll stick with Win2K Pro and the old IDE disks. Much simpler.
Press F6 as soon as the XP install blue screen appears.

But sounds like your XP disk is not bootable.  Is it a genuine one, or a copy?

Worth updating, W2K bit long in the tooth now (as is XP)

XP install screen doesn't appear.

Yep, it's genuine, I never use copies.
Title: Re: Computers...grrrr!
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 16 August 2008, 21:10:19
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Thanks for all your help, guys, ( :y) but I think I'll jack this in (after 5 hours!).

*The BIOS recognises the new Sata drive.
*Have formatted the new drive using Win 2K
*Have tried to get the BIOS to boot from both floppy and CD-ROM.
*Have now got the F6 driver on diskette (thanks TB), but of course until XP starts and asks for it, it's no use.
*On start-up it actually says "Bootable CD-ROM is found"

BUT

I always get the same message: "Reboot and select Boot device or insert boot media in slected boot device and press a key"

Always, no matter what I try. >:(

Think I'll stick with Win2K Pro and the old IDE disks. Much simpler.

first be sure from the bios CD-ROM is the first one in boot order..

second when it displays bootable CD-ROM found immediately press

enter to boot XP from CD

if you cant reach the blue screen theres something wrong..

if XP continues to load drivers and displays the message press F6 for additional drivers and if you have SCSI type or another disk connected to a controller which XP does not recognise you need to give this with F6..
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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 16 August 2008, 21:25:27
last experience with the job PC (scsi system)

had a similiar problem...

idiot CD-rom..was foobar..changed the CD-rom and problem solved..

hope this helps :-/
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Post by: dbug on 16 August 2008, 22:05:19
Duff CD Drive or dodgy XP disk - try cleaning both!
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Post by: Bandit127 on 16 August 2008, 23:01:40
Are you using a wireless keyboard? Only the 'Any' key doesn't get loaded till Windows starts...  :)
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Post by: Nickbat on 16 August 2008, 23:03:21
Thanks CEM and Dbug. :y

You've both given me a few things to think about. I'll try hitting the return as soon as it says "bootable CD found", but it goes past that message very quickly.

It could be the CD/DVD drive. I know the kids have been having a few problems with their CDs not loading on occasions recently.
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Post by: Nickbat on 16 August 2008, 23:04:14
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Are you using a wireless keyboard? Only the 'Any' key doesn't get loaded till Windows starts...  :)

Hi Bandit.

No, it's cabled.
Title: Re: Computers...grrrr!
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 16 August 2008, 23:05:02
 :y
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Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 16 August 2008, 23:05:09
Jamie has a brilliant tool for stupid computers think he calls it "Sammy" ;)
Title: Re: Computers...grrrr!
Post by: Nickbat on 16 August 2008, 23:29:43
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Thanks for all your help, guys, ( :y) but I think I'll jack this in (after 5 hours!).

*The BIOS recognises the new Sata drive.
*Have formatted the new drive using Win 2K
*Have tried to get the BIOS to boot from both floppy and CD-ROM.
*Have now got the F6 driver on diskette (thanks TB), but of course until XP starts and asks for it, it's no use.
*On start-up it actually says "Bootable CD-ROM is found"

BUT

I always get the same message: "Reboot and select Boot device or insert boot media in slected boot device and press a key"

Always, no matter what I try. >:(

Think I'll stick with Win2K Pro and the old IDE disks. Much simpler.

first be sure from the bios CD-ROM is the first one in boot order..

second when it displays bootable CD-ROM found immediately press

enter to boot XP from CD


if you cant reach the blue screen theres something wrong..

if XP continues to load drivers and displays the message press F6 for additional drivers and if you have SCSI type or another disk connected to a controller which XP does not recognise you need to give this with F6..


Hi Cem,

Just tried that. The CD drive spins up, but I get the same message as before. I think the drive may be fubared, so I'm off to Maplins in the morning to get new one.  :y
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Post by: Baron Von Spongebob on 16 August 2008, 23:42:06
Its easier to build a cupboard mate.. Don't forget to put colorfill in the joints.. ;) ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Nickbat on 16 August 2008, 23:57:56
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Its easier to build a cupboard mate.. Don't forget to put colorfill in the joints.. ;) ;D ;D ;D

It IS easier to build a cupboard!

Incidentally, yesterday I recycled all the colorfill I had lying around. I mean, it just SO yesterday's material!!

Remember, purple is the new orange. (Something like that, anyway!)

 ;) ;D
Title: Re: Computers...grrrr!
Post by: CaptainZok on 16 August 2008, 23:59:24
Just do as Spongey does and buy some ferrets.
Lot easier than all this computer business.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Computers...grrrr!
Post by: Baron Von Spongebob on 17 August 2008, 01:01:01
I don't own a ferret..I think.. Although they might be lessproblems than SWMBO...lol

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Computers...grrrr!
Post by: Nickbat on 17 August 2008, 16:51:56
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last experience with the job PC (scsi system)

had a similiar problem...

idiot CD-rom..was foobar..changed the CD-rom and problem solved..

hope this helps :-/


WELL DONE, CEM!  :y :y :y

Went and bought a new Samsung DVD/CD unit and bingo, XP loaded with ease!

Only problem I have now is resetting/reloading everything. My bookmarks are in a sub-directory of Documents and Settings but it's hidden and, try as I might, I can't get to it!

Oh well, I'll have another fiddle.  ;)
Title: Re: Computers...grrrr!
Post by: Nickbat on 17 August 2008, 17:01:45
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last experience with the job PC (scsi system)

had a similiar problem...

idiot CD-rom..was foobar..changed the CD-rom and problem solved..

hope this helps :-/


WELL DONE, CEM!  :y :y :y

Went and bought a new Samsung DVD/CD unit and bingo, XP loaded with ease!

Only problem I have now is resetting/reloading everything. My bookmarks are in a sub-directory of Documents and Settings but it's hidden and, try as I might, I can't get to it!

Oh well, I'll have another fiddle.  ;)

Sorted...I'm on a roll now!!!  :) :) :)
Title: Re: Computers...grrrr!
Post by: Bandit127 on 17 August 2008, 17:16:57
Nice one Nickbat. Always good to see a problem solved.  :y :y :y