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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: tunnie on 22 August 2018, 12:53:11
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Time for the Zafira to get a service, but I'm really tempted to do this DIY. Since I can do a V6 Omega, how hard can it be. :D
Firstly I was tempted to use Vauxhall, so I could blag an Insignia for the day, to see what they are like, but all they would offer me is a Corsa. :(
Secondly, they automatically added on a brake fluid change at cost of £40, because Vauxhall "highly" recommend it, but the chap kindly informed me he put it on there for me...... like he was doing me a favour. As it was not part of the 'Full Service' - So for £288, feel I should do this myself and do it right.
But I'm struggling for resources, appears to be nothing out there for Tourer, but it's better for the Insignia.
For oil filter location, is it same between Insignia and '14 Zaf Tourer? (2.0 CDTi 163bhp) eg:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqJ08EkrOE8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqJ08EkrOE8)
On another note, why can't Vauxhall put the oil filter in a sensible location? VW it was easily accessible from engine bay, looks like I need to take wheel off to get access.
Air filter looks ok, coolant looks a pig to fill tucked away at the back.
Pollen filter looks like need to take glove box out, but cannot find any guides on this.
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Also EGR cleaning, cannot find 2.0 CDTI Zafirfa, only 1.9 version. :-\
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Oil filter easily accessible from underneath... Dedicated flap for it, but easier to drop the engine tray ;)
You might need to improvise a drain funnel though.
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I posted up about my service a while back. £138 with a free MOT. Oil and filter, air filter, fuel filter, that's enough for me.
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I posted up about my service a while back. £138 with a free MOT. Oil and filter, air filter, fuel filter, that's enough for me.
£200 at my local indie for that.
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I posted up about my service a while back. £138 with a free MOT. Oil and filter, air filter, fuel filter, that's enough for me.
£200 at my local indie for that.
Using Vx parts? I think my indie got the bits from Andrew Page.
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I posted up about my service a while back. £138 with a free MOT. Oil and filter, air filter, fuel filter, that's enough for me.
£200 at my local indie for that.
Using Vx parts? I think my indie got the bits from Andrew Page.
Mr Tunnie is still young enough and slim enough to slide under a car.......unlike you. :)
I think he should do it himself for the satisfaction, and being tight as a ducks arse, the money he will save.
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I posted up about my service a while back. £138 with a free MOT. Oil and filter, air filter, fuel filter, that's enough for me.
£200 at my local indie for that.
Using Vx parts? I think my indie got the bits from Andrew Page.
Mr Tunnie is still young enough and slim enough to slide under a car.......unlike you. :)
I think he should do it himself for the satisfaction, and being tight as a ducks arse, the money he will save.
As you know, Opti, my car gets me from A to B, reliably. I'm not interested in Vx's 'special' oils or tyres that have a melting point of 500°C. And, funnily enough, none of my cars have ever let me down badly.
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All Zafiras need glove box removed to access pollen filter
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I posted up about my service a while back. £138 with a free MOT. Oil and filter, air filter, fuel filter, that's enough for me.
£200 at my local indie for that.
Using Vx parts? I think my indie got the bits from Andrew Page.
Mr Tunnie is still young enough and slim enough to slide under a car.......unlike you. :)
I think he should do it himself for the satisfaction, and being tight as a ducks arse, the money he will save.
As you know, Opti, my car gets me from A to B, reliably. I'm not interested in Vx's 'special' oils or tyres that have a melting point of 500°C. And, funnily enough, none of my cars have ever let me down badly.
Does that include the Daewoo? ::)
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All Zafiras need glove box removed to access pollen filter
Most of my cars never had the pollen filter changed.
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I posted up about my service a while back. £138 with a free MOT. Oil and filter, air filter, fuel filter, that's enough for me.
£200 at my local indie for that.
Using Vx parts? I think my indie got the bits from Andrew Page.
Mr Tunnie is still young enough and slim enough to slide under a car.......unlike you. :)
I think he should do it himself for the satisfaction, and being tight as a ducks arse, the money he will save.
As you know, Opti, my car gets me from A to B, reliably. I'm not interested in Vx's 'special' oils or tyres that have a melting point of 500°C. And, funnily enough, none of my cars have ever let me down badly.
Does that include the Daewoo? ::)
Yes, it was a Vauxhall in disguise.
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I posted up about my service a while back. £138 with a free MOT. Oil and filter, air filter, fuel filter, that's enough for me.
£200 at my local indie for that.
Using Vx parts?
Nope
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Think ECP's oil would be fine?
TRIPLE QX Engine Oil (Fully Synthetic (Low Saps C3) Engine Oil - 5W-30 - 5ltr)
As I recall, as Zaf has a DPF, oil has low Saps (to prevent ash) it will do.
As just priced up via ECP: air filter, oil filter, pollen filter, fuel filter (all MANN) and 5L of 5w30 oil.
For £73 delivered. Could do 3x services for cost of one local indie one. :)
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What can possibly go wrong Tunnie? ::) :)
Don't forget to order via a cashback site! ;)
Topcashback giving 3.67% for ECP and 3.15% for CP4L. It all adds up! :y
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If the oil meets the required spec then only your bank manager will notice any difference between it and Vauxhall Ultra Nectar with special Virgin's Blood additives. And if you're worried about it, then change it a couple of thousand miles earlier than the schedule. Just like any other oil.
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Think ECP's oil would be fine?
TRIPLE QX Engine Oil (Fully Synthetic (Low Saps C3) Engine Oil - 5W-30 - 5ltr)
As I recall, as Zaf has a DPF, oil has low Saps (to prevent ash) it will do.
As just priced up via ECP: air filter, oil filter, pollen filter, fuel filter (all MANN) and 5L of 5w30 oil.
For £73 delivered. Could do 3x services for cost of one local indie one. :)
Now price it up using VX parts.
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What can possibly go wrong Tunnie? ::) :)
Don't forget to order via a cashback site! ;)
Topcashback giving 3.67% for ECP and 3.15% for CP4L. It all adds up! :y
Oooo. Forgot about cashback. Thanks :y
Yes mounts up! Been buying lots stuff for work and expensing it, always try to check cashback. Basically free money 8)
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If the oil meets the required spec then only your bank manager will notice any difference between it and Vauxhall Ultra Nectar with special Virgin's Blood additives. And if you're worried about it, then change it a couple of thousand miles earlier than the schedule. Just like any other oil.
Thanks. I want to DIY as its going to be doing many more shorter runs soon, plan an annual change even though it will only do maybe 8k a year.
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I posted up about my service a while back. £138 with a free MOT. Oil and filter, air filter, fuel filter, that's enough for me.
£200 at my local indie for that.
Using Vx parts? I think my indie got the bits from Andrew Page.
Don't forget, there's a big difference between leafy Surrey where everyone is a millionaire and you can't buy a house for less than £500k, and .. that place you live*, where nobody has a job and houses cost £3.50 :P :D
*Albsheimers has set in, because I can't remember where you live.
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Think ECP's oil would be fine?
TRIPLE QX Engine Oil (Fully Synthetic (Low Saps C3) Engine Oil - 5W-30 - 5ltr)
As I recall, as Zaf has a DPF, oil has low Saps (to prevent ash) it will do.
As just priced up via ECP: air filter, oil filter, pollen filter, fuel filter (all MANN) and 5L of 5w30 oil.
For £73 delivered. Could do 3x services for cost of one local indie one. :)
Now price it up using VX parts.
£145.98 apparently, confirmed trade club price. This was Drive Aldershot, think he was telling porkies. He quoted £39.64 for 5L of 5w30 which I'm sure sounds like retail price. ???
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I posted up about my service a while back. £138 with a free MOT. Oil and filter, air filter, fuel filter, that's enough for me.
£200 at my local indie for that.
Using Vx parts? I think my indie got the bits from Andrew Page.
Don't forget, there's a big difference between leafy Surrey where everyone is a millionaire and you can't buy a house for less than £500k, and .. that place you live*, where nobody has a job and houses cost £3.50 :P :D
*Albsheimers has set in, because I can't remember where you live.
Barnsley. And you won't get a house for under £5 :P
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Barnsley. And you won't get a house for under £5 :P
That's it. I nearly said Bradford. Not sure if that would have been a slight on you or the people of Bradford.. ;D
He quoted £39.64 for 5L of 5w30 which I'm sure sounds like retail price. ???
Unless TC prices have gone up significantly!
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Barnsley. And you won't get a house for under £5 :P
That's it. I nearly said Bradford. Not sure if that would have been a slight on you or the people of Bradford.. ;D
He quoted £39.64 for 5L of 5w30 which I'm sure sounds like retail price. ???
Unless TC prices have gone up significantly!
I believe that Barnsley, Bradford and Wakefield is all one big coffee coloured lump. :)
As for Surrey......I used to live there, a place called Walton on Thames, and it is a hateful place. I'd rather mix with the whippet and ferret lovers up North.
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So ECP for filters (Fuel,Oil,Air,Pollen) all 'decent' MANN brand, it's £47 delivered.
ECP also doing buy one get one free on oil. Suspect go ECP just because of how easy it is.
Just need to have a brave pill to actually work on a car worth something. :D ;D
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So ECP for filters (Fuel,Oil,Air,Pollen) all 'decent' MANN brand, it's £47 delivered.
ECP also doing buy one get one free on oil. Suspect go ECP just because of how easy it is.
Just need to have a brave pill to actually work on a car worth something. :D ;D
I bought these a short while ago.....not bad at about a £5 a go :y
Was going to change the fuel filter on mine also. On the 1.6 engine its in the engine bay and easily got to, but on my 2.0 its hidden underneath and only really doable if you have a lift....so decided that's a garage job...
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So ECP for filters (Fuel,Oil,Air,Pollen) all 'decent' MANN brand, it's £47 delivered.
ECP also doing buy one get one free on oil. Suspect go ECP just because of how easy it is.
Just need to have a brave pill to actually work on a car worth something. :D ;D
I bought these a short while ago.....not bad at about a £5 a go :y
£8.99 for Pollen, £13.99 for Air Filter for me, with 'discount' code
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So ECP for filters (Fuel,Oil,Air,Pollen) all 'decent' MANN brand, it's £47 delivered.
ECP also doing buy one get one free on oil. Suspect go ECP just because of how easy it is.
Just need to have a brave pill to actually work on a car worth something. :D ;D
I bought these a short while ago.....not bad at about a £5 a go :y
£8.99 for Pollen, £13.99 for Air Filter for me, with 'discount' code
I got 50% off, which it appears their still doing.....
Oh and BTW good luck with the pollen filter if you have to take the glovebox out....not difficult, but time consuming
..took me about an hour
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So ECP for filters (Fuel,Oil,Air,Pollen) all 'decent' MANN brand, it's £47 delivered.
ECP also doing buy one get one free on oil. Suspect go ECP just because of how easy it is.
Just need to have a brave pill to actually work on a car worth something. :D ;D
I bought these a short while ago.....not bad at about a £5 a go :y
£8.99 for Pollen, £13.99 for Air Filter for me, with 'discount' code
I got 50% off, which it appears their still doing.....
Oh and BTW good luck with the pollen filter if you have to take the glovebox out....not difficult, but time consuming
..took me about an hour
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I cannot find any videos on it for the Zafira-C :(
4 screws on the B apparently, fairly straight forward it appears. Hope C is similar.
And yes 50% off, can't grumble at sub £50 for all the filters.
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It's a bog standard service. Stop worrying and get it done. The car will be worth next to nothing in a couple of years anyway. ;D
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It's a bog standard service. Stop worrying and get it done.
More worried about it's car that's actually nice and new and worth something.
Not like my rusty old barge of an Omega :D
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It's a bog standard service. Stop worrying and get it done.
More worried about it's car that's actually nice and new and worth something.
Not like my rusty old barge of an Omega :D
It's around the same year as mine, I think? WBAC reckon mine is worth £6000.
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It's a bog standard service. Stop worrying and get it done.
More worried about it's car that's actually nice and new and worth something.
Not like my rusty old barge of an Omega :D
It's around the same year as mine, I think? WBAC reckon mine is worth £6000.
2014 mine, paid £9.2k for it last year, but then I paid dealer prices because it was the spec we wanted.
In some ways looking forward to DIY'ing it, give me more confidence on newer cars and means I could easily do an Insignia if that was to replace the 3.2.
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Oil and filter....as long as that gets done often enough, I really wouldn't think you can do any damage. I've seen black air and pollen filters with no apparent detriment to the running of the car. As for fuel filter.......pah! ;D
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Oil and filter....as long as that gets done often enough, I really wouldn't think you can do any damage. I've seen black air and pollen filters with no apparent detriment to the running of the car. As for fuel filter.......pah! ;D
Will let you know at the weekend how it all goes. :)
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It's a bog standard service. Stop worrying and get it done.
More worried about it's car that's actually nice and new and worth something.
Not like my rusty old barge of an Omega :D
It's around the same year as mine, I think? WBAC reckon mine is worth £6000.
2014 mine, paid £9.2k for it last year, but then I paid dealer prices because it was the spec we wanted.
In some ways looking forward to DIY'ing it, give me more confidence on newer cars and means I could easily do an Insignia if that was to replace the 3.2.
Mines 2014 as well, the elite model. Bought it for £8600ish with 20,000 miles on it. It's now done nearly 37,000 and it looks exactly what I bought it for, a mobile dog kennel.
I might clean the mud out of it one day.......but not today. ;D
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It's a bog standard service. Stop worrying and get it done.
More worried about it's car that's actually nice and new and worth something.
Not like my rusty old barge of an Omega :D
It's around the same year as mine, I think? WBAC reckon mine is worth £6000.
2014 mine, paid £9.2k for it last year, but then I paid dealer prices because it was the spec we wanted.
In some ways looking forward to DIY'ing it, give me more confidence on newer cars and means I could easily do an Insignia if that was to replace the 3.2.
Mines 2014 as well, the elite model. Bought it for £8600ish with 20,000 miles on it. It's now done nearly 37,000 and it looks exactly what I bought it for, a mobile dog kennel.
I might clean the mud out of it one day.......but not today. ;D
You've put some miles on it then! Not even done 10k in the bus yet.
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It's a bog standard service. Stop worrying and get it done.
More worried about it's car that's actually nice and new and worth something.
Not like my rusty old barge of an Omega :D
It's around the same year as mine, I think? WBAC reckon mine is worth £6000.
2014 mine, paid £9.2k for it last year, but then I paid dealer prices because it was the spec we wanted.
In some ways looking forward to DIY'ing it, give me more confidence on newer cars and means I could easily do an Insignia if that was to replace the 3.2.
Mines 2014 as well, the elite model. Bought it for £8600ish with 20,000 miles on it. It's now done nearly 37,000 and it looks exactly what I bought it for, a mobile dog kennel.
I might clean the mud out of it one day.......but not today. ;D
You've put some miles on it then! Not even done 10k in the bus yet.
He shares the driving with his whippet. :)
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So ECP for filters (Fuel,Oil,Air,Pollen) all 'decent' MANN brand, it's £47 delivered.
ECP also doing buy one get one free on oil. Suspect go ECP just because of how easy it is.
Just need to have a brave pill to actually work on a car worth something. :D ;D
I bought these a short while ago.....not bad at about a £5 a go :y
£8.99 for Pollen, £13.99 for Air Filter for me, with 'discount' code
I got 50% off, which it appears their still doing.....
Oh and BTW good luck with the pollen filter if you have to take the glovebox out....not difficult, but time consuming
..took me about an hour
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I cannot find any videos on it for the Zafira-C :(
4 screws on the B apparently, fairly straight forward it appears. Hope C is similar.
And yes 50% off, can't grumble at sub £50 for all the filters.
Mine had 4 screws at the front, 2 top, 2 bottom on the front lip, then two bolts underneath it :y
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get it done! you still have the ramps? lol :y
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get it done! you still have the ramps? lol :y
Yeah, still got my ramps. :P :D ;D
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get it done! you still have the ramps? lol :y
Yeah, still got my ramps. :P :D ;D
lol then no excuse not to service the zaf! hoping they aRE STILL SERVICEABLE LOL
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I still use them, was planning to use the ramps for Zafira to get fuel filter and oil done. :)
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Excellent! may need to borrow them in not to distant future lol zaf is fairly straight foward to service mate, wouldnt bother with fuel filter to be honest, easily goof for 50k unless you have been filling up from cans!!
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Excellent! may need to borrow them in not to distant future lol zaf is fairly straight foward to service mate, wouldnt bother with fuel filter to be honest, easily goof for 50k unless you have been filling up from cans!!
Where are you based now?
Zafira is on 46k now, bet it's never been changed and for £15, might as well. :)
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Bicester bud,
in that case nmake sure you fill filter with fresh fuel and it must be full,and fit as soon as you get old one off,if you have brake pipe clamps clamp both lines before you remove old filter,they are a bitch to start if it has time to drain back after removal,often requiring a tow to get them going
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It's a bog standard service. Stop worrying and get it done.
More worried about it's car that's actually nice and new and worth something.
Not like my rusty old barge of an Omega :D
It's around the same year as mine, I think? WBAC reckon mine is worth £6000.
£7000 is you can remove the acrid aroma of whippet piss.
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Bicester bud,
in that case nmake sure you fill filter with fresh fuel and it must be full,and fit as soon as you get old one off,if you have brake pipe clamps clamp both lines before you remove old filter,they are a bitch to start if it has time to drain back after removal,often requiring a tow to get them going
Sure that's for 2.0 CDTi? Why brake lines? :-\
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_FtDUxNQSQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_FtDUxNQSQ)
Shows straight replacement, then prime it 3-4 times and it's good to go.
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Sure that's for 2.0 CDTi? Why brake lines? :-\
Brake line clamps - on the flexi fuel lines to stop fuel loss, I imagine is what he meant ;)
(Brake line clamps being kind to hoses, rather than mole grips ;D)
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Hmmm.......perhaps you should take it to the garage, Tunnie ;D
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Hmmm.......perhaps you should take it to the garage, Tunnie ;D
:P :P
Sure that's for 2.0 CDTi? Why brake lines? :-\
Brake line clamps - on the flexi fuel lines to stop fuel loss, I imagine is what he meant ;)
(Brake line clamps being kind to hoses, rather than mole grips ;D)
Ah true, but the video's I've looked at all suggest just removing the screw to let it drain, then take filter out.
Nothing about clamping the fuel lines.
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Bicester bud,
in that case nmake sure you fill filter with fresh fuel and it must be full,and fit as soon as you get old one off,if you have brake pipe clamps clamp both lines before you remove old filter,they are a bitch to start if it has time to drain back after removal,often requiring a tow to get them going
A tow wouldn't work on Tunnie's auto. :)
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Hmmm.......perhaps you should take it to the garage, Tunnie ;D
:P :P
Sure that's for 2.0 CDTi? Why brake lines? :-\
Brake line clamps - on the flexi fuel lines to stop fuel loss, I imagine is what he meant ;)
(Brake line clamps being kind to hoses, rather than mole grips ;D)
Ah true, but the video's I've looked at all suggest just removing the screw to let it drain, then take filter out.
Nothing about clamping the fuel lines.
Anything you can do to keep air ont of the fuel system is a good thing.
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It's a bog standard service. Stop worrying and get it done.
More worried about it's car that's actually nice and new and worth something.
Not like my rusty old barge of an Omega :D
It's around the same year as mine, I think? WBAC reckon mine is worth £6000.
£7000 is you can remove the acrid aroma of whippet piss.
No one is paying any attention to you ;D
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Hmmm.......perhaps you should take it to the garage, Tunnie ;D
:P :P
Sure that's for 2.0 CDTi? Why brake lines? :-\
Brake line clamps - on the flexi fuel lines to stop fuel loss, I imagine is what he meant ;)
(Brake line clamps being kind to hoses, rather than mole grips ;D)
Ah true, but the video's I've looked at all suggest just removing the screw to let it drain, then take filter out.
Nothing about clamping the fuel lines.
Anything you can do to keep air ont of the fuel system is a good thing.
damn right!
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Bicester bud,
in that case nmake sure you fill filter with fresh fuel and it must be full,and fit as soon as you get old one off,if you have brake pipe clamps clamp both lines before you remove old filter,they are a bitch to start if it has time to drain back after removal,often requiring a tow to get them going
Sure that's for 2.0 CDTi? Why brake lines? :-\
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_FtDUxNQSQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_FtDUxNQSQ)
Shows straight replacement, then prime it 3-4 times and it's good to go.
as said clamps!
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Bicester bud,
in that case nmake sure you fill filter with fresh fuel and it must be full,and fit as soon as you get old one off,if you have brake pipe clamps clamp both lines before you remove old filter,they are a bitch to start if it has time to drain back after removal,often requiring a tow to get them going
Sure that's for 2.0 CDTi? Why brake lines? :-\
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_FtDUxNQSQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_FtDUxNQSQ)
Shows straight replacement, then prime it 3-4 times and it's good to go.
as said clamps!
Don't have any brake line clamps, only mole grips. :(
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Bicester bud,
in that case nmake sure you fill filter with fresh fuel and it must be full,and fit as soon as you get old one off,if you have brake pipe clamps clamp both lines before you remove old filter,they are a bitch to start if it has time to drain back after removal,often requiring a tow to get them going
Sure that's for 2.0 CDTi? Why brake lines? :-\
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_FtDUxNQSQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_FtDUxNQSQ)
Shows straight replacement, then prime it 3-4 times and it's good to go.
as said clamps!
Don't have any brake line clamps, only mole grips. :(
They're only bits of plastic. Buy some for your toolbox.
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https://www.halfords.com/workshop-tools/tools/hand-tools/laser-brake-clamp?cm_mmc=Google+PLA-_-Tools-_-Hand+Tools-_-696625&istCompanyId=b8708c57-7a02-4cf6-b2c0-dc36b54a327e&istItemId=miamrx&istBid=tztx&_$ja=tsid:94971%7Ccid:865695754%7Cagid:42483195983%7Ctid:pla-331463655358%7Ccrid:203186066553%7Cnw:g%7Crnd:13791439866885784282%7Cdvc:t%7Cadp:1o1%7Cmt:%7Cloc:9046336&gclid=CjwKCAjwtvnbBRA5EiwAcRvnphTuqw5DMcn7ppOXNugWn3Yb8QGtUAyqfb63fApszW65KbKiCP9zLRoCpjMQAvD_BwE
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It's a service on a Zaffy. No need to overthink it.
Just get on with it. :)
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Yes boss :)
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Yes boss :)
....or get that reprobate Mark DTM to do it for you. :)
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Yes boss :)
....or get that reprobate Mark DTM to do it for you. :)
Genuinely want to learn how to do it myself, as if I do ECP's BOGOF offer, it means next 'complete service' for the Zaf I can do sub £50, including oil.
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Yes boss :)
....or get that reprobate Mark DTM to do it for you. :)
Genuinely want to learn how to do it myself, as if I do ECP's BOGOF offer, it means next 'complete service' for the Zaf I can do sub £50, including oil.
The anticipation of what could happen (go wrong) is often worse than the reality.
You'll probably think the whole job was a piece of piss once you've done it. :y
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Bought some brake hose clamps from Halfords a couple of months or so ago,about £6 each and a fetching shade of Orange they are too :D
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All bits ordered from ECP, will collect first thing in the morning. As want to attempt it this weekend. :)
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Think ECP's oil would be fine?
TRIPLE QX Engine Oil (Fully Synthetic (Low Saps C3) Engine Oil - 5W-30 - 5ltr)
As I recall, as Zaf has a DPF, oil has low Saps (to prevent ash) it will do.
As just priced up via ECP: air filter, oil filter, pollen filter, fuel filter (all MANN) and 5L of 5w30 oil.
For £73 delivered. Could do 3x services for cost of one local indie one. :)
Is that right for the GM lump? Exactly what does your glovebox manual state?
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And don't use ECP's online lookup tool for oil, I've yet to see it pick the correct one for anything made this decade.
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Actually go and personally look at the glovebox manual in the car.
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Think ECP's oil would be fine?
TRIPLE QX Engine Oil (Fully Synthetic (Low Saps C3) Engine Oil - 5W-30 - 5ltr)
As I recall, as Zaf has a DPF, oil has low Saps (to prevent ash) it will do.
As just priced up via ECP: air filter, oil filter, pollen filter, fuel filter (all MANN) and 5L of 5w30 oil.
For £73 delivered. Could do 3x services for cost of one local indie one. :)
Is that right for the GM lump? Exactly what does your glovebox manual state?
I went Shell in the end:
Helix Ultra Professional AG 5W-30 - 5Ltr
API SN; ACEA C3; GMW16177 (dexos2)
Book says:
Dexos2
ACEA C3
Bare in mind, I suspect most garages will chuck in anything they have about, I'm happy.
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Think ECP's oil would be fine?
TRIPLE QX Engine Oil (Fully Synthetic (Low Saps C3) Engine Oil - 5W-30 - 5ltr)
As I recall, as Zaf has a DPF, oil has low Saps (to prevent ash) it will do.
As just priced up via ECP: air filter, oil filter, pollen filter, fuel filter (all MANN) and 5L of 5w30 oil.
For £73 delivered. Could do 3x services for cost of one local indie one. :)
Is that right for the GM lump? Exactly what does your glovebox manual state?
I went Shell in the end:
Helix Ultra Professional AG 5W-30 - 5Ltr
API SN; ACEA C3; GMW16177 (dexos2)
Book says:
Dexos2
ACEA C3
Bare in mind, I suspect most garages will chuck in anything they have about, I'm happy.
Should be fine.
£20 for 2 of these delivered when I last ordered from ECP. :y
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Not quite as generous on codes I had, sadly.
Still, all filters and oil for less than £70.
Much less than £250 Vauxhall wanted, they also did not include the pollen filter, so suspect north of £300 for that. Might ring a garage for a quote including that, see how much I'm saving and therefore can spend money saved on other things.
Not that MrsT will see it that way. ;D
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You've inspired me Tunnie. ::)
Just ordered all oils and filters for the BMW from ECP. Will collect later. :y
Another job for the weekend. ::)
£64.32. Triple QX oil and Crosland filters. :y
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You've inspired me Tunnie. ::)
Just ordered all oils and filters for the BMW from ECP. Will collect later. :y
Another job for the weekend. ::)
£64.32. Triple QX oil and Crosland filters. :y
Surely your arthritic BMW is beyond help. :) ;)
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You've inspired me Tunnie. ::)
Just ordered all oils and filters for the BMW from ECP. Will collect later. :y
Another job for the weekend. ::)
£64.32. Triple QX oil and Crosland filters. :y
Ive always thought changing the oil and filter is a pain in the arris
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I dont have a driveway, so car is parked on a slope in the road
It can be a messy job
Then you have to get rid of the old stuff, so a trip to the tip.
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You've inspired me Tunnie. ::)
Just ordered all oils and filters for the BMW from ECP. Will collect later. :y
Another job for the weekend. ::)
£64.32. Triple QX oil and Crosland filters. :y
Surely your arthritic BMW is beyond help. :) ;)
Plenty of life in the old girl yet, but like an old boy like you M'lud she needs a bit of TLC now and again. ;)
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You've inspired me Tunnie. ::)
Just ordered all oils and filters for the BMW from ECP. Will collect later. :y
Another job for the weekend. ::)
£64.32. Triple QX oil and Crosland filters. :y
Haha, glad to help. Similar service costs then :)
I went posh Shell oil, only £3 more than QX, even on BOGOF deal.
Think I will be up early on Saturday to sort the mummy bus.
You've inspired me Tunnie. ::)
Just ordered all oils and filters for the BMW from ECP. Will collect later. :y
Another job for the weekend. ::)
£64.32. Triple QX oil and Crosland filters. :y
Then you have to get rid of the old stuff, so a trip to the tip.
I have a 20L drum in the garage, just for waste oil, so can do a few changes before it need a run to the tip.
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You've inspired me Tunnie. ::)
Just ordered all oils and filters for the BMW from ECP. Will collect later. :y
Another job for the weekend. ::)
£64.32. Triple QX oil and Crosland filters. :y
Surely your arthritic BMW is beyond help. :) ;)
Plenty of life in the old girl yet, but like an old boy like you M'lud she needs a bit of TLC now and again. ;)
Euthanasia is what she needs. ;D
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Not quite as generous on codes I had, sadly.
Still, all filters and oil for less than £70.
Much less than £250 Vauxhall wanted, they also did not include the pollen filter, so suspect north of £300 for that. Might ring a garage for a quote including that, see how much I'm saving and therefore can spend money saved on other things.
Not that MrsT will see it that way. ;D
£180 difference and the satisfaction of knowing that your pride and joy hasn't been butchered by knuckledragging neanderthals. :y
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Not quite as generous on codes I had, sadly.
Still, all filters and oil for less than £70.
Much less than £250 Vauxhall wanted, they also did not include the pollen filter, so suspect north of £300 for that. Might ring a garage for a quote including that, see how much I'm saving and therefore can spend money saved on other things.
Not that MrsT will see it that way. ;D
£180 difference and the satisfaction of knowing that your pride and joy hasn't been butchered by knuckledragging neanderthals. :y
Yup. Also knowing it really has been done.
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Not quite as generous on codes I had, sadly.
Still, all filters and oil for less than £70.
Much less than £250 Vauxhall wanted, they also did not include the pollen filter, so suspect north of £300 for that. Might ring a garage for a quote including that, see how much I'm saving and therefore can spend money saved on other things.
Not that MrsT will see it that way. ;D
£180 difference and the satisfaction of knowing that your pride and joy hasn't been butchered by knuckledragging neanderthals. :y
Yup. Also knowing it really has been done.
Before delivery of both of my XFR's Jaguar 'supposedly' carried out an exhaustive 165 point check.
My guess is that the 165 point check actually consisted of a spotty 17 year old armed with a damp cloth. :-\
Coolant level and power steering fluid were below minimum level and there was a host of other items that clearly hadn't been checked. :-\
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Not quite as generous on codes I had, sadly.
Still, all filters and oil for less than £70.
Much less than £250 Vauxhall wanted, they also did not include the pollen filter, so suspect north of £300 for that. Might ring a garage for a quote including that, see how much I'm saving and therefore can spend money saved on other things.
Not that MrsT will see it that way. ;D
£180 difference and the satisfaction of knowing that your pride and joy hasn't been butchered by knuckledragging neanderthals. :y
Yup. Also knowing it really has been done.
Before delivery both of my XFR's Jaguar 'supposedly' carried out an exhaustive 165 point check.
My guess is that the 165 point check actually consisted of a spotty 17 year old armed with a damp cloth. :-\
Coolant level and power steering fluid were below minimum level and there was a host of other items that clearly hadn't been checked. :-\
:( :( :(
That's rubbish, you think they check things, but nothing beats doing it yourself.
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Not quite as generous on codes I had, sadly.
Still, all filters and oil for less than £70.
Much less than £250 Vauxhall wanted, they also did not include the pollen filter, so suspect north of £300 for that. Might ring a garage for a quote including that, see how much I'm saving and therefore can spend money saved on other things.
Not that MrsT will see it that way. ;D
£180 difference and the satisfaction of knowing that your pride and joy hasn't been butchered by knuckledragging neanderthals. :y
Yup. Also knowing it really has been done.
Before delivery both of my XFR's Jaguar 'supposedly' carried out an exhaustive 165 point check.
My guess is that the 165 point check actually consisted of a spotty 17 year old armed with a damp cloth. :-\
Coolant level and power steering fluid were below minimum level and there was a host of other items that clearly hadn't been checked. :-\
:( :( :(
That's rubbish, you think they check things, but nothing beats doing it yourself.
I think that Jaguar are aware that most owners know SFA about cars in general.
Jaguar Forums talk about which main dealer to use if there is a problem. Very few on the forum(s) have much in the way of technical and mechanical know how.
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You've inspired me Tunnie. ::)
Just ordered all oils and filters for the BMW from ECP. Will collect later. :y
Another job for the weekend. ::)
£64.32. Triple QX oil and Crosland filters. :y
Can't fault ECP's Click and Collect service. Popped into their Avonmouth branch this afternoon and all my stuff was sat waiting for me, so I was in and out! :y
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You've inspired me Tunnie. ::)
Just ordered all oils and filters for the BMW from ECP. Will collect later. :y
Another job for the weekend. ::)
£64.32. Triple QX oil and Crosland filters. :y
Can't fault ECP's Click and Collect service. Popped into their Avonmouth branch this afternoon and all my stuff was sat waiting for me, so I was in and out! :y
A bit like Opti would like to be with Lizzie :-*
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You've inspired me Tunnie. ::)
Just ordered all oils and filters for the BMW from ECP. Will collect later. :y
Another job for the weekend. ::)
£64.32. Triple QX oil and Crosland filters. :y
Can't fault ECP's Click and Collect service. Popped into their Avonmouth branch this afternoon and all my stuff was sat waiting for me, so I was in and out! :y
A bit like Opti would like to be with Lizzie :-*
In like Flynn? ??? and out like Errol! ;D
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You've inspired me Tunnie. ::)
Just ordered all oils and filters for the BMW from ECP. Will collect later. :y
Another job for the weekend. ::)
£64.32. Triple QX oil and Crosland filters. :y
Can't fault ECP's Click and Collect service. Popped into their Avonmouth branch this afternoon and all my stuff was sat waiting for me, so I was in and out! :y
A bit like Opti would like to be with Lizzie :-*
In like Flynn? ??? and out like Errol! ;D
Precisely.
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Lizzie has a certain natural Rubenesque charm. :)
I don't like skinny women, or fake tits.
Talking of fake tits whatever happened to Lolopops?
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Jaguar might have done a 165 point check but did they say they'd done anything about any problems they found? :D
As for Vx dealers a mate of mine is a technician/mechanic[not at Vx]and he had an Insignia Elite[with leather]to do on which the drivers seat heater wasn't working,so he checked it out and phoned Vx to order a new heater pad.
Parts guy:What do you want one of those for?
Him:Seat heater not working.
Pg:You won't want one of those they never fail,what you need is a module.
Him:What about the TSV that's out for them that hasn't been done on this car?
Pg: Oh,we never do those it's the module you want.
Anyway went with heater pad which didn't cure it,so ordered a module.Module arrived and it was bigger than the one on the car and had 9 plugs where original only had 3 :o
Phoned Vx again and spoke to service dept
Service guy:What you replacing the module for?They never go wrong,we've never fitted one it's the heater pad you want we're always replacing those and some even turn up already faulty :D
So yet another pad ordered and he's awaiting delivery so the saga continues!
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Lizzie has a certain natural Rubenesque charm. :)
I don't like skinny women, or fake tits.
Talking of fake tits whatever happened to Lolopops?
Like Love, Reubens was blind...
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So I started this today, on the whole a significant amount of confidence gained. Looks straight forward.
Started on easy job, air filter, checking service book looks to be original!
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii177/tunnie_84/Image%20from%20iOS.jpg)
Changed pollen filter, was changed 2 years ago. Very straight forward on this thankfully, as I'd found no videos/guides for the Tourer, only Insignia. It was 4 screws, and inside 60 seconds the glovebox was out, so another nice easy job. :)
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii177/tunnie_84/Image%20from%20iOS%201.jpg)
Now for the questions/issues:
1) How much fuel should drain from fuel filter? The fuel lines look to be hard plastic lines, they cannot be crimped. I loosed the drain plug and drained about a full jar (Hellman's May size) of fuel, got nervous and did it back up again. How much should drain?
2) Haynes state a sump plug and washer should be changed on 2.0 CDTi for Insignia, forums suggest not, but does it need new washer each time?
I took front wheel off and had a good inspection, can see everything, drain plug, oil filter, screws for floor cover to take off. So confident to do it, just wondering on washer.
Also nice and easy to jack up and pop on axel stands, almost identical to Omega, so a refreshing change from the VW!
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Now for the questions/issues:
1) How much fuel should drain from fuel filter? The fuel lines look to be hard plastic lines, they cannot be crimped. I loosed the drain plug and drained about a full jar (Hellman's May size) of fuel, got nervous and did it back up again. How much should drain?
2) Haynes state a sump plug and washer should be changed on 2.0 CDTi for Insignia, forums suggest not, but does it need new washer each time?
1. The ovlov puts about 1" in the bottom of a washing up bowl, so I'd get a bigger vessel and persevere. As long as the washing up bowl s clean, you can always just pour it back in ;)
2. I change em now, only because a bag of 5 was about £8. But, worst case scenario is it'll weep a bit of oil so not the worst thing in the world.
What happens is that over time, as you squash and re squash the (presumably copper) washer is it goes hard and won't seal properly. Compromise would be to change it every other time (just turn it round and put it back on the other way round.
You'll only need to replace the sump plug if it has an integrated washer/rubber o ring, or you're a semi trained chimp employed by a garage and round it off. ;D
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Thanks, ECP do for a fiver a sump plug and washer, bit pricey, but want to get it sorted this weekend. Well on Monday, as I think they are open, unlike Vx Parts.
I'll drain for longer, might use oil drain pan, that should be big enough!
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Yeah, be worth buying one at least to see what they're like. That way you can decide if it's worth replacing again.
Oil pan is a good shout. She'll burn the residual engine oil quite happily :)
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Think ECP's oil would be fine?
TRIPLE QX Engine Oil (Fully Synthetic (Low Saps C3) Engine Oil - 5W-30 - 5ltr)
As I recall, as Zaf has a DPF, oil has low Saps (to prevent ash) it will do.
As just priced up via ECP: air filter, oil filter, pollen filter, fuel filter (all MANN) and 5L of 5w30 oil.
For £73 delivered. Could do 3x services for cost of one local indie one. :)
Is that right for the GM lump? Exactly what does your glovebox manual state?
Lump is more Fiat than GM
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API SN; ACEA C3; GMW16177 (dexos2)
Book says:
Dexos2
ACEA C3
For your dpf, that's the match :y
Still way too expensive from euroshite though.
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Have you finished it yet?
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API SN; ACEA C3; GMW16177 (dexos2)
Book says:
Dexos2
ACEA C3
For your dpf, that's the match :y
Still way too expensive from euroshite though.
I know. Im paying for convenience, its so near to me. Will be getting sump plug tomorrow and doing this.
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So finally got it all done :)
Cracked on with oil change, was last done a year ago when I bought it. Looks like who ever was there before is bit heavy handed, got away with un-doing it, but next change I'll replace the sump plug:
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii177/tunnie_84/ZafiraTourer/IMG-4454.jpg)
Also, why does the sump plug have holes? When removing it, results in oil everywhere and messy to undo.
I also had to make do with this setup, as the under-tray could not be fully removed.
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii177/tunnie_84/ZafiraTourer/IMG-4456.jpg)
I removed the 8mm bolts, but the front section also appeared glued on. :-\ I could not get the whole under tray off.
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii177/tunnie_84/ZafiraTourer/IMG_4455.jpg)
Also, as some have hinted that the engine is Fiat in design? That shows when what ever lunatic Italian engine designer thought this was a good place for an oil filter location. Not simple like VW where it's easy as pie from the engine bay. Have to take the wheel off for good access, wobbly adaptor and various extensions and having to use cardboard to direct oil away from drive shaft. >:(
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii177/tunnie_84/ZafiraTourer/IMG_4460.jpg)
That said, everything else worked well. Easy enough to jack up and put on stands, almost identical to Omega. Wheels/suspension looks all very familiar for drop links, disc removal etc.
Reversed car on for fuel filter, so I could also have a good nose at rear suspension. Graham's my ramps still doing good job here. Although no idea where you access top strut bolts. :-\
(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii177/tunnie_84/ZafiraTourer/IMG_4464.jpg)
Had a bit of a scare with fuel filter, took cover off, and the damn filter was stuck in the housing. Had to pull it off, quite hard as well! Much less fuel drained out this time, I think as it had been driven to get oil hot for the change, far less drained out that before. I had left that overnight previously, so all drains back I guess.
Probably saved in region of £150 notes I think, doing this DIY. Garaged wanted near £200 and that was without pollen filter, main dealer wanted £250, again without pollen, so more like £200 note saving.
Which all paid nicely for Little MissT's new school clothes as she starts soon and nice day out today. So we had pleasure out of the cash, rather than some garage.
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Just researched a bit, as expected zero info on Zaf-C, but Zaf-A shows rear strut top bolt inside wheel arch. Must look harder at mine next weekend.
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I think if it was up on a lift, the undertray would have dropped down at 90°. Probably a good idea when you look at that way, saves one person struggling to get it back on.
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I think if it was up on a lift, the undertray would have dropped down at 90°. Probably a good idea when you look at that way, saves one person struggling to get it back on.
Yeah I think so, but was hoping with front bolts removed I could un-do that section as well.
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Next time, jack it up higher. Alot higher.
The flap is designed to hang vertically with the car on a lift.
The sump plug has holes so that it can be undone a few turns, drain the oil, retighten. Either that or someone fitted a banjo bolt rather than a sump plug ;D
With the proper facilities the engine is a doddle to service...
Next time book it in for an oil and filter change and do the 'extras' yourself... Best of both worlds. In your shoes this is what I would have done. During the week whilst at work. Thereby having a full weekend with the family.
Well done for trying though ;)
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Clearly whoever was in there before you was on a break between filming PG tips commercials.
Well done on getting it done tho :y
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As suspected, rear shocks are mounted in the same way as the Golf/A3/Altea/Octavia shit boxes...
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-ZAFIRA-C-TOURER-12-ON-A20DT-REAR-SHOCK-ABSORBERS-13419903-ABD6-12186-/113093611800
One bolt to the arm and two smaller bolts either side of the upper bracket. Shock rod secured to the bracket by the usual nut. ;)
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Just researched a bit, as expected zero info on Zaf-C, but Zaf-A shows rear strut top bolt inside wheel arch. Must look harder at mine next weekend.
Zaf A shocks are a doddle at the rear, all nicely easily accessible once the wheel is off. Zaf-A uses torx bolts, so need to clean them up before attempting it, in order to get all the road dirt out of the splines in the torx.
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Clearly whoever was in there before you was on a break between filming PG tips commercials.
Well done on getting it done tho :y
Thanks, pleased at the outcome. Noticed it runs a bit less tractor like now, with some fresh oil.
Just researched a bit, as expected zero info on Zaf-C, but Zaf-A shows rear strut top bolt inside wheel arch. Must look harder at mine next weekend.
Zaf A shocks are a doddle at the rear, all nicely easily accessible once the wheel is off. Zaf-A uses torx bolts, so need to clean them up before attempting it, in order to get all the road dirt out of the splines in the torx.
Need to see if Zaf-C is the same, hoping so as apart from oil filter DIY work on this is looking very doable long term. :)
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Oh, one more annoyance, is the dip stick. It's gives strange readings, one side will show full, other side quarter full.
Pop it in again, and says quarter each side. Pop out clean, in again and it's full one side near empty on the other. :-\
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Clearly whoever was in there before you was on a break between filming PG tips commercials.
Well done on getting it done tho :y
Thanks, pleased at the outcome. Noticed it runs a bit less tractor like now, with some fresh oil.
Just researched a bit, as expected zero info on Zaf-C, but Zaf-A shows rear strut top bolt inside wheel arch. Must look harder at mine next weekend.
Zaf A shocks are a doddle at the rear, all nicely easily accessible once the wheel is off. Zaf-A uses torx bolts, so need to clean them up before attempting it, in order to get all the road dirt out of the splines in the torx.
Need to see if Zaf-C is the same, hoping so as apart from oil filter DIY work on this is looking very doable long term. :)
It isn't, as per my post earlier ::)
Still a doddle to do, although you might have to remove the arch liner to access it ;)