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Title: Mr Kashoggi’s last moments
Post by: Varche on 17 October 2018, 20:26:07
Anyone been following the Saudi journalist murder in Saudi embassy in Istanbul.?

I listened with horror about the known detail. More like a film story than real. Horrible.
Title: Re: Mr Kashoggi’s last moments
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 17 October 2018, 22:16:17
It sounds pretty gruesome.  :(  :-\
Title: Re: Mr Kashoggi’s last moments
Post by: Shackeng on 17 October 2018, 22:18:47
I'm just waiting for the stitch-up which is being arranged between Trump, MbS and Erdogan, and will watch with interest what poor Saudi sap is chosen to be the fall-guy. Probably the Consul-General. :y
Title: Re: Mr Kashoggi’s last moments
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 17 October 2018, 22:56:21
But nothing will be found, nothing proved, as the Consulate was allowed to send in an army of cleaners, with as many mops and buckets as they wanted, before the inspectors were allowed to go in.

Talk about a cover up, no doubt between all the interested parties, that is those wanting business to continue as usual!! ::) ::) ;)
Title: Re: Mr Kashoggi’s last moments
Post by: STEMO on 18 October 2018, 06:51:37
Has it ever been any different? Turkey itself conducts similar exercises.
Title: Re: Mr Kashoggi’s last moments
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 18 October 2018, 07:20:09
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We didn't want to talk about facts, and nor did they...
:-X
Title: Re: Mr Kashoggi’s last moments
Post by: TheBoy on 18 October 2018, 09:02:12
Aren’t we being equally irresponsible by making assumptions before any investigations?
Title: Re: Mr Kashoggi’s last moments
Post by: Varche on 18 October 2018, 09:17:46
Perhaps but this may well turn out to be like Salisbury poisoning.

In the early days a faction screamed where is the evidence that it was Russia.. even now today the Russians are denying it.

Quite right that Turkey hasnt exactly got a good track record. Where was our outrage at 50,000 people arrested for supporting the wrong side?
Title: Re: Mr Kashoggi’s last moments
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 18 October 2018, 09:21:49
The cost of doing business  :-\
Title: Re: Mr Kashoggi’s last moments
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 18 October 2018, 13:24:02
And the cost of having an enemy of Iran in the region.
Title: Re: Mr Kashoggi’s last moments
Post by: Rods2 on 19 October 2018, 02:48:16
The Trump crime clan are in debt (in money & favours) to the Saudis, along with UAE, Qatar, Israel, Russia, China & Ukrainian Semion Mogilevich (global boss of bosses) to name but a few. :o :o :o Fred Trump (Donald's dad) family, was a front family for the Genovese mafia gang, so Donnie was born into a momster family and has been grifting all of his life. Once you work or are compromised by the mafia, they own you for life. Expect the Trump clan breaking the US Emolument laws to form a big part of Robert Muller's investigation and prosecution. This is going to be the biggest global elite crime bust that any of us will ever witness as it is massive. :D :D :D

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semion_Mogilevich (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semion_Mogilevich)

Trump's daughter & son-in-law have borrowed & been well paid for 'deals' to the tune of $500m by the Saudis so don't expect anything but obstruction from Trump including not warning the journalist where the NSA had SIGINT that was forwarded to Trump in one of his daily intelligence briefings that the journalist was going to be kidnapped or despatched (normal protocol for a US citizen is for the President to order that the target is warned of the danger & Trump didn't) and that is what the 15 man team that went to the Saudi embassy job was, which included members of Saudi leader MBS security staff. Those 15 where they have been videoed & implicated will now be despatched as dead men don't talk. One has already died in a car accident. In dictatorships it is normal for anybody that badly crosses or even worse embarrasses the regime to be despatched. In the West we only get to hear about the famous ones, the rest just disappear without trace.
Title: Re: Mr Kashoggi’s last moments
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 19 October 2018, 11:23:04
The cost of doing business  :-\

Give it a week and it will be business as usual.

The 'outrage' will be no more than a distant memory.
Title: Re: Mr Kashoggi’s last moments
Post by: BazaJT on 20 October 2018, 07:32:08
The Saudis have now released a statement to say he died during/following a fight which broke out in the embassy[investigations still ongoing to ascertain who was involved and why]Trump has said this explanation is "credible".
Title: Re: Mr Kashoggi’s last moments
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 20 October 2018, 10:52:49
The Saudis have now released a statement to say he died during/following a fight which broke out in the embassy[investigations still ongoing to ascertain who was involved and why]Trump has said this explanation is "credible".

Utter boll*cks....... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Mr Kashoggi’s last moments
Post by: STEMO on 20 October 2018, 11:33:19
An Arab killed by Arabs, move on.
Title: Re: Mr Kashoggi’s last moments
Post by: Olympia5776 on 20 October 2018, 12:03:07
An Arab killed by Arabs, move on.
Couldn't have put it better myself .........
Title: Re: Mr Kashoggi’s last moments
Post by: biggriffin on 20 October 2018, 22:21:12
An Arab killed by Arabs, move on.
Couldn't have put it better myself .........


Carried, and moved on.
Title: Re: Mr Kashoggi’s last moments
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 22 October 2018, 18:11:16
Well, in the face of overwhelming evidence, they've admitted it...

Now Turkey just need to explain why the Saudi consulate was bugged ::)
Title: Re: Mr Kashoggi’s last moments
Post by: STEMO on 22 October 2018, 19:25:16
Well, in the face of overwhelming evidence, they've admitted it...

Now Turkey just need to explain why the Saudi consulate was bugged ::)
Easy. Because every embassy and consulate in a foreign country is bugged, unless you have the wherewithal to stop it.
Title: Re: Mr Kashoggi’s last moments
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 22 October 2018, 19:38:55
Well, in the face of overwhelming evidence, they've admitted it...

Now Turkey just need to explain why the Saudi consulate was bugged ::)
Easy. Because every embassy and consulate in a foreign country is bugged, unless you have the wherewithal to stop it.

It seems it's just us Brits who play by the rules. :)
Title: Re: Mr Kashoggi’s last moments
Post by: STEMO on 22 October 2018, 19:39:26
Well, in the face of overwhelming evidence, they've admitted it...

Now Turkey just need to explain why the Saudi consulate was bugged ::)
Easy. Because every embassy and consulate in a foreign country is bugged, unless you have the wherewithal to stop it.

It seems it's just us Brits who play by the rules. :)
I doubt that very much.
Title: Re: Mr Kashoggi’s last moments
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 22 October 2018, 19:45:37
Well, in the face of overwhelming evidence, they've admitted it...

Now Turkey just need to explain why the Saudi consulate was bugged ::)
Easy. Because every embassy and consulate in a foreign country is bugged, unless you have the wherewithal to stop it.

It seems it's just us Brits who play by the rules. :)
I doubt that very much.

As do I.
Title: Re: Mr Kashoggi’s last moments
Post by: STEMO on 22 October 2018, 19:56:38
Well, in the face of overwhelming evidence, they've admitted it...

Now Turkey just need to explain why the Saudi consulate was bugged ::)
Easy. Because every embassy and consulate in a foreign country is bugged, unless you have the wherewithal to stop it.

It seems it's just us Brits who play by the rules. :)
I doubt that very much.

As do I.
That's not what you were saying on the telephone earlier.
Title: Re: Mr Kashoggi’s last moments
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 22 October 2018, 20:20:18
Well, in the face of overwhelming evidence, they've admitted it...

Now Turkey just need to explain why the Saudi consulate was bugged ::)
Easy. Because every embassy and consulate in a foreign country is bugged, unless you have the wherewithal to stop it.

It seems it's just us Brits who play by the rules. :)
I doubt that very much.

As do I.
That's not what you were saying on the telephone earlier.

Have you been at the wacky baccy??
Title: Re: Mr Kashoggi’s last moments
Post by: STEMO on 22 October 2018, 20:21:32
Well, in the face of overwhelming evidence, they've admitted it...

Now Turkey just need to explain why the Saudi consulate was bugged ::)
Easy. Because every embassy and consulate in a foreign country is bugged, unless you have the wherewithal to stop it.

It seems it's just us Brits who play by the rules. :)
I doubt that very much.

As do I.
That's not what you were saying on the telephone earlier.

Have you been at the wacky baccy??
No. Your phone is bugged, just like everyone else's.
Title: Re: Mr Kashoggi’s last moments
Post by: STEMO on 22 October 2018, 20:26:31
And anyone who speaks to me on my mobile is recorded by default.  ::)
Title: Re: Mr Kashoggi’s last moments
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 22 October 2018, 20:30:48
And anyone who speaks to me on my mobile is recorded by default.  ::)

Them's the rules!  ;D