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Title: What engine is in a Smart car?
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 17 August 2008, 19:43:08
Coz it must be rubbish.......

There are two Smart cars in my local garage........both 04 plates gathering dust.......

Both belong to a pizza delivery shop.....

I asked the owner of the garage whats up with them......

He told me....."Both have siezed engines....Smart cars engines use oil.......and should be checked on a weekly basis......and you dont expect pizza delivery drivers to check the oil.......result 2 knackered smarts"
Title: Re: What engine is in a Smart car?
Post by: waspy on 17 August 2008, 19:45:38
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Coz it must be rubbish.......

There are two Smart cars in my local garage........both 04 plates gathering dust.......

Both belong to a pizza delivery shop.....

I asked the owner of the garage whats up with them......

He told me....."Both have siezed engines....Smart cars engines use oil.......and should be checked on a weekly basis......and you dont expect pizza delivery drivers to check the oil.......result 2 knackered smarts"

Shame  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: What engine is in a Smart car?
Post by: CaptainZok on 17 August 2008, 19:48:44
Probably some evolution of the singer sewing machine. ;D
Title: Re: What engine is in a Smart car?
Post by: Bandit127 on 17 August 2008, 19:50:07
You learn something new everyday. I never put oil in one of these
(http://img.diytrade.com/cdimg/509818/3215801/0/1169506106/HAIR_DRYER.jpg)
Perhaps that's where I've been gong wrong...
Title: Re: What engine is in a Smart car?
Post by: Brian T on 17 August 2008, 22:05:32
If they're scrapping them I'll have the batteries for my TV remote ;D
Title: Re: What engine is in a Smart car?
Post by: kris9128 on 17 August 2008, 22:36:26
not sure what engines in them but think smart should have a chat with this guy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEdmmWb9DhQ&feature=related
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Post by: Mr Skrunts on 17 August 2008, 22:46:15
Wish my pizza service used the Hayabussa version, had to wait nearly an hour tonight.   :-/ :-/
Title: Re: What engine is in a Smart car?
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 17 August 2008, 22:46:49
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5S1NAMnYKM&feature=related
Title: Re: What engine is in a Smart car?
Post by: Martin_1962 on 18 August 2008, 10:57:53
They have small half engines - missing a whole bank
Title: Re: What engine is in a Smart car?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 18 August 2008, 11:04:41
Yes, they are a little 3 pot engine with 6 valves and a camshaft setup very similar to that utilised on the old 8 valve Vx engines.

They have a habit of guzzling oil......and hence the failures.

Have a look here for some pics of this lump:

http://prowl.org/smartcar/engine.php
Title: Re: What engine is in a Smart car?
Post by: TheBoy on 18 August 2008, 11:06:58
Little turbo charged 600cc engines, pretty highlyy tuned.  Performance is surprising good for what it is.

My brother had one as a company car (in preference to various Mercs) when he worked for a well known motor racing team, and he loved it.  When he resigned, he always said that was the one thing he missed.
Title: Re: What engine is in a Smart car?
Post by: Martin_1962 on 18 August 2008, 11:13:32
6 valve surprised me - last 6V one I had seen was a friends Wet Super Dream.

I was expecting a 12v
Title: Re: What engine is in a Smart car?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 18 August 2008, 12:00:13
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Have a look here for some pics of this lump:

http://prowl.org/smartcar/engine.php

What's that opposite the spark plug in the combustion chamber? Direct fuel injectors or twin spark perhaps?

Dropping a bike engine in does seem the sensible option. Apart from the power it would allow you to do clutchless gear changes in milliseconds instead of gear changes "under the supervision of the nannying electronics" which seem to take about 3 seconds in a smart.  >:(

If there's anything you do need in a car with a small, light, revvy but ultimately underpowered engine it's slick gearchanges. That could turn the Smart into something quite entertaining rather than the total bore it is currently, IMHO.

Kevin
Title: Re: What engine is in a Smart car?
Post by: TheBoy on 18 August 2008, 12:04:59
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Have a look here for some pics of this lump:

http://prowl.org/smartcar/engine.php

What's that opposite the spark plug in the combustion chamber? Direct fuel injectors or twin spark perhaps?

Dropping a bike engine in does seem the sensible option. Apart from the power it would allow you to do clutchless gear changes in milliseconds instead of gear changes "under the supervision of the nannying electronics" which seem to take about 3 seconds in a smart.  >:(

If there's anything you do need in a car with a small, light, revvy but ultimately underpowered engine it's slick gearchanges. That could turn the Smart into something quite entertaining rather than the total bore it is currently, IMHO.

Kevin
I couldn't get on with the stupid box, but my brother assures me once you got the hang of it, it was OK...   ...and his weekend car is an Elise...
Title: Re: What engine is in a Smart car?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 18 August 2008, 12:17:21
Typical servo controlled manual box, utter crap
Title: Re: What engine is in a Smart car?
Post by: Martin_1962 on 18 August 2008, 13:43:48
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Typical servo controlled manual box, utter crap


How do they differ from a bike box?
Title: Re: What engine is in a Smart car?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 18 August 2008, 13:50:46
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Typical servo controlled manual box, utter crap


How do they differ from a bike box?

Take a manual gearbox and bolt a set of servos on to control the clutch and gear shifts.......so not sequential!
Title: Re: What engine is in a Smart car?
Post by: Martin_1962 on 18 August 2008, 14:58:47
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Typical servo controlled manual box, utter crap


How do they differ from a bike box?

Take a manual gearbox and bolt a set of servos on to control the clutch and gear shifts.......so not sequential!


Now if I was given the job of gearbox design it would have wet multiplate clutch, sequential gearbox and one servo, and it would have enough gears not to have to change revs too much
Title: Re: What engine is in a Smart car?
Post by: dbug on 18 August 2008, 15:57:01
Don't knock the Smart car - they are ideal to keep in your boot in case of crank sensor failure or running out of petrol :y
Title: Re: What engine is in a Smart car?
Post by: DC on 19 August 2008, 22:14:10
one of my dads company cars is a smart diesel - 800cc, cdi, 3cylinder. he is a car mechanic and has a choice of sprinters, vitos even 5.2l grand cherokee. his prefered mode of transport is the smart, unless he really needs bigger vehicle
Title: Re: What engine is in a Smart car?
Post by: amigov6 on 19 August 2008, 23:29:32
I'm far from an expert but i believe the Smart engine is an Omega starter motor! 8-)
Title: Re: What engine is in a Smart car?
Post by: Ian_D on 20 August 2008, 00:30:37
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I'm far from an expert but i believe the Smart engine is an Omega starter motor! 8-)
Your prob not wrong there  ;D Having said that, our starter motors prob give out more BHP than them engines!
Title: Re: What engine is in a Smart car?
Post by: feeutfo on 20 August 2008, 01:37:42
They put engines on skate boards, why not roller skates? They do come in pairs after all. I wonder which one seized first left or right?