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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: JiMbOb789 on 19 August 2008, 18:44:55
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Hello everyone, i am thinking of upgrading to vista but i have a problem, windows vista upgrade advisor tells me intel does not support drivers for my graphics card/ controller.
Is there anyway of resolving this?
Have i got to buy anything, if so, what will the price be?
And what does a graphics card/controller do, is it just for watching videos?
Thanks,
Jamie
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Hello everyone, i am thinking of upgrading to vista but i have a problem, windows vista upgrade advisor tells me intel does not support drivers for my graphics card/ controller.
Is there anyway of resolving this?
Have i got to buy anything, if so, what will the price be?
And what does a graphics card/controller do, is it just for watching videos?
Thanks,
Jamie
Might be better to take it to XP instead
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Hello everyone, i am thinking of upgrading to vista but i have a problem, windows vista upgrade advisor tells me intel does not support drivers for my graphics card/ controller.
Is there anyway of resolving this?
Have i got to buy anything, if so, what will the price be?
And what does a graphics card/controller do, is it just for watching videos?
Thanks,
Jamie
What spec machine? I would only recommend running Vista on modern hardware (ie Core2 chips), and the fact there is no driver for your video suggests yours is quite old hardware...
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Personally I would shy away from vista with any machine older than 18 months. Microsoft also recommend running Vista with no less than 2mb ram - although Dell sell new with 512gb on vista!
You will probably need at least a 128mb graphics for vista to run properly as well.
If you can stick to XP I would - it is supposed to be supported for another 2 years (ish) by microsoft, and by then vista will be working properly.
The graphics card is the display driver for your machine, without it your pc will run in the most basic of modes (16 colours and 800 x 600 res).
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See artical on the Register about 35% of PC's downgraded from Vista to XP?
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/08/19/windows_xp_vista_7/
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Personally I would shy away from vista with any machine older than 18 months. Microsoft also recommend running Vista with no less than 2mb ram - although Dell sell new with 512gb on vista!
You will probably need at least a 128mb graphics for vista to run properly as well.
If you can stick to XP I would - it is supposed to be supported for another 2 years (ish) by microsoft, and by then vista will be working properly.
The graphics card is the display driver for your machine, without it your pc will run in the most basic of modes (16 colours and 800 x 600 res).
By which time Windows 7 will be out.
Vista works well now, but needs up to date hardware.
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See artical on the Register about 35% of PC's downgraded from Vista to XP?
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/08/19/windows_xp_vista_7/
The Cartoon Register have become a bit of a joke in the industry lately, always using the Daily Mail style sensationalism type journalistic style.
No matter what stats they use, I fail to see consumer downgrades are more than 1 or 2%.
I'm guessing they are including the corporates who are still selling XP machines (with XP licences), and are somehow including these as downgrades...
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my machine is a samsung v25 and it is over 18 months old unfortunatly :'(
So all in all you think i should stay on xp then.
I tried vistamizer 3 times now but keeps slowing down and crashing my laptop, i dont know why, other people get on fine.
Just a quick question, what is a video accelerator because someone on another forum has done what i was thinking of doing and had the same problem and he says everything worked fine until he went to watch videos or play games (They turnt out really slow) and then he got the idea of a video accelerator, what is it? :-/
Thanks for all the quick reples by the way, im most grateful :y :y :y :y
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my machine is a samsung v25 and it is over 18 months old unfortunatly :'(
So all in all you think i should stay on xp then.
I tried vistamizer 3 times now but keeps slowing down and crashing my laptop, i dont know why, other people get on fine.
Just a quick question, what is a video accelerator because someone on another forum has done what i was thinking of doing and had the same problem and he says everything worked fine until he went to watch videos or play games (They turnt out really slow) and then he got the idea of a video accelerator, what is it? :-/
Thanks for all the quick reples by the way, im most grateful :y :y :y :y
What is the spec of the machine?
Video accelerator is part of the graphics card, and it uses extra inbuilt hardware to improve certain graphical tasks...
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my machine is a samsung v25 and it is over 18 months old unfortunatly :'(
So all in all you think i should stay on xp then.
I tried vistamizer 3 times now but keeps slowing down and crashing my laptop, i dont know why, other people get on fine.
Just a quick question, what is a video accelerator because someone on another forum has done what i was thinking of doing and had the same problem and he says everything worked fine until he went to watch videos or play games (They turnt out really slow) and then he got the idea of a video accelerator, what is it? :-/
Thanks for all the quick reples by the way, im most grateful :y :y :y :y
What is the spec of the machine?
Video accelerator is part of the graphics card, and it uses extra inbuilt hardware to improve certain graphical tasks...
Well it has 512mb ram, an IntelŪ 82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV Graphics Controller (No vista driver), 160 gig hard drive, anything else, just say :y
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http://www.dealtime.co.uk/xPF-Samsung-V25-XVC-2800-NV25NQ0VLR-SUK
Only difference is i have bought a 160 gig hard drive
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my machine is a samsung v25 and it is over 18 months old unfortunatly :'(
So all in all you think i should stay on xp then.
I tried vistamizer 3 times now but keeps slowing down and crashing my laptop, i dont know why, other people get on fine.
Just a quick question, what is a video accelerator because someone on another forum has done what i was thinking of doing and had the same problem and he says everything worked fine until he went to watch videos or play games (They turnt out really slow) and then he got the idea of a video accelerator, what is it? :-/
Thanks for all the quick reples by the way, im most grateful :y :y :y :y
What is the spec of the machine?
Video accelerator is part of the graphics card, and it uses extra inbuilt hardware to improve certain graphical tasks...
Well it has 512mb ram, an IntelŪ 82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV Graphics Controller (No vista driver), 160 gig hard drive, anything else, just say :y
P4, bit long in the tooth now to be honest. It will run Vista OK with a big memory upgrade, if Samsung don't do vista drivers for the video, you may find the generic Intel one will work.
Personally, I don't think the machine is worth spending the money on to get it up to spec - the amount you will spend on memory and the Vista licence, I would keep to one side and use to replace the machine in a year/18months...
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my machine is a samsung v25 and it is over 18 months old unfortunatly :'(
So all in all you think i should stay on xp then.
I tried vistamizer 3 times now but keeps slowing down and crashing my laptop, i dont know why, other people get on fine.
Just a quick question, what is a video accelerator because someone on another forum has done what i was thinking of doing and had the same problem and he says everything worked fine until he went to watch videos or play games (They turnt out really slow) and then he got the idea of a video accelerator, what is it? :-/
Thanks for all the quick reples by the way, im most grateful :y :y :y :y
What is the spec of the machine?
Video accelerator is part of the graphics card, and it uses extra inbuilt hardware to improve certain graphical tasks...
Well it has 512mb ram, an IntelŪ 82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV Graphics Controller (No vista driver), 160 gig hard drive, anything else, just say :y
Enough RAM for XP
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my machine is a samsung v25 and it is over 18 months old unfortunatly :'(
So all in all you think i should stay on xp then.
I tried vistamizer 3 times now but keeps slowing down and crashing my laptop, i dont know why, other people get on fine.
Just a quick question, what is a video accelerator because someone on another forum has done what i was thinking of doing and had the same problem and he says everything worked fine until he went to watch videos or play games (They turnt out really slow) and then he got the idea of a video accelerator, what is it? :-/
Thanks for all the quick reples by the way, im most grateful :y :y :y :y
What is the spec of the machine?
Video accelerator is part of the graphics card, and it uses extra inbuilt hardware to improve certain graphical tasks...
Well it has 512mb ram, an IntelŪ 82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV Graphics Controller (No vista driver), 160 gig hard drive, anything else, just say :y
Enough RAM for XP
not really, unless your needs are just web browsing and bit of email
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my machine is a samsung v25 and it is over 18 months old unfortunatly :'(
So all in all you think i should stay on xp then.
I tried vistamizer 3 times now but keeps slowing down and crashing my laptop, i dont know why, other people get on fine.
Just a quick question, what is a video accelerator because someone on another forum has done what i was thinking of doing and had the same problem and he says everything worked fine until he went to watch videos or play games (They turnt out really slow) and then he got the idea of a video accelerator, what is it? :-/
Thanks for all the quick reples by the way, im most grateful :y :y :y :y
What benefits were you looking for with a cross grade?
We were discussing this yesterday at work, we haven't replaced a work station in ages, as now PCs are generally fast enough, also keep a developer on a not state of art machine, will keep them focused on keeping the code efficient, yes I have sat there changing small amounts of code to tweak say a 30% improvement out of a module.
I do fancy a dual core with about 1.5 to 2 TB of hard drive for video editing
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my machine is a samsung v25 and it is over 18 months old unfortunatly :'(
So all in all you think i should stay on xp then.
I tried vistamizer 3 times now but keeps slowing down and crashing my laptop, i dont know why, other people get on fine.
Just a quick question, what is a video accelerator because someone on another forum has done what i was thinking of doing and had the same problem and he says everything worked fine until he went to watch videos or play games (They turnt out really slow) and then he got the idea of a video accelerator, what is it? :-/
Thanks for all the quick reples by the way, im most grateful :y :y :y :y
What is the spec of the machine?
Video accelerator is part of the graphics card, and it uses extra inbuilt hardware to improve certain graphical tasks...
Well it has 512mb ram, an IntelŪ 82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV Graphics Controller (No vista driver), 160 gig hard drive, anything else, just say :y
Enough RAM for XP
not really, unless your needs are just web browsing and bit of email
My home PC ran well until recently on 512MB just started to choke on image manipulation, now got 1GB
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my machine is a samsung v25 and it is over 18 months old unfortunatly :'(
So all in all you think i should stay on xp then.
I tried vistamizer 3 times now but keeps slowing down and crashing my laptop, i dont know why, other people get on fine.
Just a quick question, what is a video accelerator because someone on another forum has done what i was thinking of doing and had the same problem and he says everything worked fine until he went to watch videos or play games (They turnt out really slow) and then he got the idea of a video accelerator, what is it? :-/
Thanks for all the quick reples by the way, im most grateful :y :y :y :y
What benefits were you looking for with a cross grade?
We were discussing this yesterday at work, we haven't replaced a work station in ages, as now PCs are generally fast enough, also keep a developer on a not state of art machine, will keep them focused on keeping the code efficient, yes I have sat there changing small amounts of code to tweak say a 30% improvement out of a module.
I do fancy a dual core with about 1.5 to 2 TB of hard drive for video editing
For that kind of work, quad cores aren't much more expensive, and you'll make use of the cores :y
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my machine is a samsung v25 and it is over 18 months old unfortunatly :'(
So all in all you think i should stay on xp then.
I tried vistamizer 3 times now but keeps slowing down and crashing my laptop, i dont know why, other people get on fine.
Just a quick question, what is a video accelerator because someone on another forum has done what i was thinking of doing and had the same problem and he says everything worked fine until he went to watch videos or play games (They turnt out really slow) and then he got the idea of a video accelerator, what is it? :-/
Thanks for all the quick reples by the way, im most grateful :y :y :y :y
What is the spec of the machine?
Video accelerator is part of the graphics card, and it uses extra inbuilt hardware to improve certain graphical tasks...
Well it has 512mb ram, an IntelŪ 82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV Graphics Controller (No vista driver), 160 gig hard drive, anything else, just say :y
Enough RAM for XP
not really, unless your needs are just web browsing and bit of email
My home PC ran well until recently on 512MB just started to choke on image manipulation, now got 1GB
Apps are getting more feature packed/bloated, so memory requirements have risen. When XP came out 256Mb was enough. With SP2, 512Mb was minimum, but now I wouldn't go below 1024Mb.
Before I fired up the VMs, my works laptop was using around 750Mb memory earlier when I checked...
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Obviously, Vista's hardware requirements higher than XP's, so 1.5G minimum really.
My own laptop is sat here with Outlook 2007, IE7, puTTY, and task manager open, 1.06G committed memory.
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my machine is a samsung v25 and it is over 18 months old unfortunatly :'(
So all in all you think i should stay on xp then.
I tried vistamizer 3 times now but keeps slowing down and crashing my laptop, i dont know why, other people get on fine.
Just a quick question, what is a video accelerator because someone on another forum has done what i was thinking of doing and had the same problem and he says everything worked fine until he went to watch videos or play games (They turnt out really slow) and then he got the idea of a video accelerator, what is it? :-/
Thanks for all the quick reples by the way, im most grateful :y :y :y :y
What benefits were you looking for with a cross grade?
We were discussing this yesterday at work, we haven't replaced a work station in ages, as now PCs are generally fast enough, also keep a developer on a not state of art machine, will keep them focused on keeping the code efficient, yes I have sat there changing small amounts of code to tweak say a 30% improvement out of a module.
I do fancy a dual core with about 1.5 to 2 TB of hard drive for video editing
For that kind of work, quad cores aren't much more expensive, and you'll make use of the cores :y
Are programs making use of the quad cores.
I was led to believe a while back that not even the high end games were making use of the Quad core CPU's as yet. and it's normally the games that want more of everything.
I may be wrong on what I was told, but there you go. :-/
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my machine is a samsung v25 and it is over 18 months old unfortunatly :'(
So all in all you think i should stay on xp then.
I tried vistamizer 3 times now but keeps slowing down and crashing my laptop, i dont know why, other people get on fine.
Just a quick question, what is a video accelerator because someone on another forum has done what i was thinking of doing and had the same problem and he says everything worked fine until he went to watch videos or play games (They turnt out really slow) and then he got the idea of a video accelerator, what is it? :-/
Thanks for all the quick reples by the way, im most grateful :y :y :y :y
What benefits were you looking for with a cross grade?
We were discussing this yesterday at work, we haven't replaced a work station in ages, as now PCs are generally fast enough, also keep a developer on a not state of art machine, will keep them focused on keeping the code efficient, yes I have sat there changing small amounts of code to tweak say a 30% improvement out of a module.
I do fancy a dual core with about 1.5 to 2 TB of hard drive for video editing
For that kind of work, quad cores aren't much more expensive, and you'll make use of the cores :y
Are programs making use of the quad cores.
I was led to believe a while back that not even the high end games were making use of the Quad core CPU's as yet. and it's normally the games that want more of everything.
I may be wrong on what I was told, but there you go. :-/
Games programming is some of the worse out there. Very rarely do they kick off asyncronous processes.
Multicore only worthwhile if main apps you are running are multithreaded, which most big commercial apps are.
Games are starting become multithreaded at last, but way behind good apps.
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Well a quad core is not much more and I will need to move to HD sooner rather than later.
I use Video Studio 9 for editing, that is a bit of a resource hog, but still only uses peak memory of around 70MB which is not much I thought.
However I use an ancient copy of DVD Movie factory to capture as VS9 wants to mess with field order and I do not like that.
I still use TMPGENC XP to do the encoding - got a Dolby Digital addon too!
Only been editing for 23 years!!! Started using a Sanyo as a play back with my Sony portable as an editor, then used the portable as playback with a Sony SLHF950 as edit deck.
Moved to NLE within weeks of getting this PC
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Obviously, Vista's hardware requirements higher than XP's, so 1.5G minimum really.
My own laptop is sat here with Outlook 2007, IE7, puTTY, and task manager open, 1.06G committed memory.
VS9 IE6 and 626MB available :y
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my machine is a samsung v25 and it is over 18 months old unfortunatly :'(
So all in all you think i should stay on xp then.
I tried vistamizer 3 times now but keeps slowing down and crashing my laptop, i dont know why, other people get on fine.
Just a quick question, what is a video accelerator because someone on another forum has done what i was thinking of doing and had the same problem and he says everything worked fine until he went to watch videos or play games (They turnt out really slow) and then he got the idea of a video accelerator, what is it? :-/
Thanks for all the quick reples by the way, im most grateful :y :y :y :y
What benefits were you looking for with a cross grade?
We were discussing this yesterday at work, we haven't replaced a work station in ages, as now PCs are generally fast enough, also keep a developer on a not state of art machine, will keep them focused on keeping the code efficient, yes I have sat there changing small amounts of code to tweak say a 30% improvement out of a module.
I do fancy a dual core with about 1.5 to 2 TB of hard drive for video editing
For that kind of work, quad cores aren't much more expensive, and you'll make use of the cores :y
Are programs making use of the quad cores.
I was led to believe a while back that not even the high end games were making use of the Quad core CPU's as yet. and it's normally the games that want more of everything.
I may be wrong on what I was told, but there you go. :-/
Video editing is hard on a PC, only when P4s and XP came out was PC editing really practical. Rendering is quite slow and my PC will take a day to encode a 2 hour film to a DVD5 at best quality 2 pass variable bit rate, so now I use constant bit rate and DVD9 when needed.
My PC even had to work hard on capturing. Especially as I used to capture raw uncompressed at over 1.2GB per minute until I got the MiniDV camera
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my machine is a samsung v25 and it is over 18 months old unfortunatly :'(
So all in all you think i should stay on xp then.
I tried vistamizer 3 times now but keeps slowing down and crashing my laptop, i dont know why, other people get on fine.
Just a quick question, what is a video accelerator because someone on another forum has done what i was thinking of doing and had the same problem and he says everything worked fine until he went to watch videos or play games (They turnt out really slow) and then he got the idea of a video accelerator, what is it? :-/
Thanks for all the quick reples by the way, im most grateful :y :y :y :y
What benefits were you looking for with a cross grade?
We were discussing this yesterday at work, we haven't replaced a work station in ages, as now PCs are generally fast enough, also keep a developer on a not state of art machine, will keep them focused on keeping the code efficient, yes I have sat there changing small amounts of code to tweak say a 30% improvement out of a module.
I do fancy a dual core with about 1.5 to 2 TB of hard drive for video editing
For that kind of work, quad cores aren't much more expensive, and you'll make use of the cores :y
Are programs making use of the quad cores.
I was led to believe a while back that not even the high end games were making use of the Quad core CPU's as yet. and it's normally the games that want more of everything.
I may be wrong on what I was told, but there you go. :-/
Games programming is some of the worse out there. Very rarely do they kick off asyncronous processes.
Multicore only worthwhile if main apps you are running are multithreaded, which most big commercial apps are.
Games are starting become multithreaded at last, but way behind good apps.
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Well a quad core is not much more and I will need to move to HD sooner rather than later.
I use Video Studio 9 for editing, that is a bit of a resource hog, but still only uses peak memory of around 70MB which is not much I thought.
However I use an ancient copy of DVD Movie factory to capture as VS9 wants to mess with field order and I do not like that.
I still use TMPGENC XP to do the encoding - got a Dolby Digital addon too!
Only been editing for 23 years!!! Started using a Sanyo as a play back with my Sony portable as an editor, then used the portable as playback with a Sony SLHF950 as edit deck.
Moved to NLE within weeks of getting this PC
I think you'll likely find that more 'professional' software will be faster, and with better end result, but use more resources in the process. More likely to use multi cores as well.
Don't do much video editing, so no expert I'm afraid.
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Video editing is hard on a PC, only when P4s and XP came out was PC editing really practical. Rendering is quite slow and my PC will take a day to encode a 2 hour film to a DVD5 at best quality 2 pass variable bit rate, so now I use constant bit rate and DVD9 when needed.
My PC even had to work hard on capturing. Especially as I used to capture raw uncompressed at over 1.2GB per minute until I got the MiniDV camera
Seem to recall you use quite an old, slow P4, and likely with an old slow chipset (the most important part of a PC) with it. Newer generation cpu would help enormously, as would a more modern memory controller...
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Video editing is hard on a PC, only when P4s and XP came out was PC editing really practical. Rendering is quite slow and my PC will take a day to encode a 2 hour film to a DVD5 at best quality 2 pass variable bit rate, so now I use constant bit rate and DVD9 when needed.
My PC even had to work hard on capturing. Especially as I used to capture raw uncompressed at over 1.2GB per minute until I got the MiniDV camera
Seem to recall you use quite an old, slow P4, and likely with an old slow chipset (the most important part of a PC) with it. Newer generation cpu would help enormously, as would a more modern memory controller...
P4 2.4 5 years old in November 266 DDR RAM
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Video editing is hard on a PC, only when P4s and XP came out was PC editing really practical. Rendering is quite slow and my PC will take a day to encode a 2 hour film to a DVD5 at best quality 2 pass variable bit rate, so now I use constant bit rate and DVD9 when needed.
My PC even had to work hard on capturing. Especially as I used to capture raw uncompressed at over 1.2GB per minute until I got the MiniDV camera
Seem to recall you use quite an old, slow P4, and likely with an old slow chipset (the most important part of a PC) with it. Newer generation cpu would help enormously, as would a more modern memory controller...
P4 2.4 5 years old in November 266 DDR RAM
Yup, so old, slow P4. Possibly not hyperthreaded, not that hyperthreading is suited to that sort of work. slow memory will hurt video editing as well. Updated hardware will make a difference with video.
I'm guessing even my laptop (2.0G Core2 Duo, 965 chipset, 2G) will outperform on video work, despite laptop HDD...