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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Sir Tigger KC on 25 May 2019, 18:22:53
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Here's my list of possible contenders for the leadership of the Tory party and of of course our next PM. :y
The bookies favourite at the moment is of course Boris, but he has shown his hand early and has announced that if he is leader we will be leaving the EU on the 31st October, deal or no deal. This will not endear him to the Tory Remainers and of course any candidate needs the support of the MP's to get down to the final two for the membership to decide on. ;)
I don't think they've learnt anything from the past three years and are totally complacent about the rise of Farage's Brexit Party, so will present the membership with a choice between two 'safe' candidates like Jeremy Hunt and Sajid Javid. ::)
If I've missed anyone let me know and I'll add them to the list, and will remove names as they drop out of the contest. You can then reallocate your vote. :)
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A motley bunch of reprobates. :-\
I would go for Rory Stewart. Not that he has much of a chance.
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Gove is smarmy and untrustworthy.
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A motley bunch of reprobates. :-\
I would go for Rory Stewart. Not that he has much of a chance.
He's already been ripped to shreds by IDS. He says he wants to unite the party, then says he wouldn't work with Boris. Apart from that, he looks like a sickly youth.
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A motley bunch of reprobates. :-\
I would go for Rory Stewart. Not that he has much of a chance.
He's already been ripped to shreds by IDS. He says he wants to unite the party, then says he wouldn't work with Boris. Apart from that, he looks like a sickly youth.
Yes.....I must admit he doesn't look a healthy specimen. As I say, a pretty piss poor bunch in general. :-\
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Is there an option for None of the Above?
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Is there an option for None of the Above?
No
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I will actually have a vote, but don't know which of that shower I will vote for. I do know several of them that I definitely wont vote for.
I will decide nearer the time when Ive heard all their bullshit.
Im sure there are several on that list who wont be standing. ;)
I would vote Steve Baker for Brexit sec. Ken Clarke to be sent to a home for the bewildered, Phillip Hammond to clean the bogs at the Treasury as that's the limit of his abilty and Dominic Grieve to the gallows as that's what he deserves.
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I will actually have a vote, but don't know which of that shower I will vote for. I do know several of them that I definitely wont vote for.
I will decide nearer the time when Ive heard all their bullshit.
Im sure there are several on that list who wont be standing. ;)
Yes and I'll delete those who don't stand when we know who's in. :y
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Grieve, Rees Mogg and Clarke wont stand. Hammond must be very doubtful imo. :y
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Grieve, Rees Mogg and Clarke wont stand. Hammond must be very doubtful imo. :y
Well he is 107. :)
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Grieve, Rees Mogg and Clarke wont stand. Hammond must be very doubtful imo. :y
Well he is 107. :)
I was going to put down Hesletine who is also 107, but he was suspended from the Tory Party for voting for the LimpDems. ;D
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Grieve, Rees Mogg and Clarke wont stand. Hammond must be very doubtful imo. :y
Well he is 107. :)
I was going to put down Hesletine who is also 107, but he was suspended from the Tory Party for voting for the LimpDems. ;D
Clarke won't stand, and says he won't vote.
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Raab has declared in and Gove rumoured to declare tomorrow. :)
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I think it is academic.
Whoever gets the job will get a pension and their name in the history books and be promptly forgotten. The Tories are dead.
May sees out her bit, summer recess, party conference season then one week before Halloween. So no deal without any planning or kick the can down the road.
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Yep it's unbelievable that they are indulging themselves with a two month leadership contest and then will promptly bugger off on holiday! ::)
May should have stood down with immediate effect on Friday and they could have condensed the leadership contest to a fortnight which should have kicked off on Monday. Summer recess for the lazy duplicitous bastards should be cancelled as well! :y
I'll write in. :)
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Andrea Leadsom has throw her hat into the ring. :)
Why do we say that? :-\
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Gove slithers in to confirm he's in. :)
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Andrea Leadsom has throw her hat into the ring. :)
Why do we say that? :-\
We don't. We say thrown her hat into the ring. :)
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Andrea Leadsom has throw her hat into the ring. :)
Why do we say that? :-\
We don't. We say thrown her hat into the ring. :)
Ah yes. oops! ;D
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Come on, own up, who voted for the blonde girlie?..... ::)
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Andrea Leadsom has throw her hat into the ring. :)
Why do we say that? :-\
We don't. We say thrown her hat into the ring. :)
Ah yes. oops! ;D
https://writingexplained.org/idiom-dictionary/throw-your-hat-in-the-ring
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Andrea Leadsom has throw her hat into the ring. :)
Why do we say that? :-\
We don't. We say thrown her hat into the ring. :)
Ah yes. oops! ;D
https://writingexplained.org/idiom-dictionary/throw-your-hat-in-the-ring
Thanks Uncle Stemo, every day's a school day! :y
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Gove is a slimy insincere backstabbing bastard, and has the type of face I'd like to use as a punchbag, so as as long as he doesn't get in I couldn't give a toss.
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Give Boris a chance - he deserves it! :y :y :y
Ron.
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Give Boris a chance - he deserves it! :y :y :y
Ron.
Why??????
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Why not?
Ron.
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Nobody seems to like (trust) the smarmy and oily Mr Gove...... :)
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Why not?
Ron.
A look back at his history
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Rather surprised the Number 10 cat is not an option. :)
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Rather surprised the Number 10 cat is not an option. :)
Probably the only creature with any credibility :)
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And with almost as much arrogance and self-interest?
Ron.
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John McDonnell today warning about extremists getting the keys to No 10. ::)
Oh the irony! ;D
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Wait for it
We have at least 24 hours of the media and establishment playing down Brexit party success and making out the other parties did really well in the EU MEP elections. That will be No Change UK then.
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Yep, the Brexit party have swept the board and Treasonous May has come close to destroying what was left of the Tory party.
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The job of replacing 'Mrs MAY I come hide with you David Cameron' just got less appealing , if that's possible ;D
All the rest of the self serving knob jockeys are quoting their interpretation of the election results with a positive spin ::)
when in reality , the results show just how divided the UNITED Kingdom really is :(
I think TB is waiting for all the dickhead politicians to cull themselves before stepping in to take over :P
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If this had been a 'first past the post' ballot, the Brexit party would have almost swept the board.
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One Labour candidate when asked about the results in view of the success of the Brexit party said there were a lot of parties represented and if you added all their votes together then the Brexit party took a hefty beating ??? ??? Where do these people come from :-\ :-\ :-\
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Steve Baker has gone from 100:1 to 25:1. Shame Boris is standing. I think he is damaged goods.
Anyone hear calls for Corbyn to resign over their disastrous MEP result.?
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No: like all politicians he is blind and deaf to all criticisms and suggestions of failure. ::)
Ron.
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Corbyn has put the blame on Labours bad election result fairly and squarely on the Tories. ??? ;D
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No: like all politicians he is blind and deaf to all criticisms and suggestions of failure. ::)
Ron.
That about sums up what modern politics is all about.
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Sajid Javid's in. :)
Confirmed candidates so far:
Boris Johnson
Micheal Gove
Rory Stewart
Andrea Leadsom
Matt Hancock
Dominic Raab
Esther McVey
Jeremy Hunt
Sajid Javid
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For me it will be a choice between Johnson, Raab, Leadsom. I wouldn't consider any of the others.
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Aaaand another one... Kit Malthouse. :)
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Surely to meet the diversity quote it will have to be Leadsom or Javid....
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Surely to meet the diversity quote it will have to be Leadsom or Javid....
One of Raes mannikins would do just as well? ??? ;D
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Aaaand another one... Kit Malthouse. :)
WTF is Kit Malthouse? ;D
Don't answer, it was a rhetorical question.
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On a side note Alastair Campbell has been expelled from Labour Party, for voting Lib Dem at Euro elections. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Apparently my MP James Cleverly is about to announce he will stand. ::)
I suspect he knows he doesn't stand a chance, but as an old friend of Boris, he will transfer his support to him and end up with a cabinet job if Boris wins.
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You need to add NONE of the ABOVE.
Being Mentally unstable enough to think you've got what it takes to run this country, should be enough to exclude you from being able to stand.
I really think we need to appoint the PM like jury service. If you are picked, randomly, you get the job.
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Apparently my MP James Cleverly is about to announce he will stand. ::)
I suspect he knows he doesn't stand a chance, but as an old friend of Boris, he will transfer his support to him and end up with a cabinet job if Boris wins.
Yep James Cleverly is in.
The deadline is 10th June so there may be a few more.... ::)
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Saw him and Mrs Cleverly walking through the village a few days ago. Im certain that Opti would vote for Cleverly for PM if could spend half an hour with Mrs Cleverly. :D ::)
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Looks like Boris has been nobbled. Someone is taking him to court for misconduct in public office. He,s probably guilty of that, but what politician isn't ? ::)
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Looks like Boris has been nobbled. Someone is taking him to court for misconduct in public office. He,s probably guilty of that, but what politician isn't ? ::)
I doubt Boris was ever going to get to the final to be honest, as even though the members love him, most of the MP's hate him and it's the MP's who decide who goes before the membership.
You'll get to vote between two of what they used to call Tory Wets..... ::)
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Looks like Boris has been nobbled. Someone is taking him to court for misconduct in public office. He,s probably guilty of that, but what politician isn't ? ::)
It is over the 350 million bus claim whilst in public office. Fair enough. Will we also see all the riders on both sides that made extravagant claims ( project fear for example) in court too?
Like I keep saying Boris is damaged goods. He shouldn't have stood and left the way open forSteve Baker.
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Looks like Boris has been nobbled. Someone is taking him to court for misconduct in public office. He,s probably guilty of that, but what politician isn't ? ::)
It is over the 350 million bus claim whilst in public office. Fair enough. Will we also see all the riders on both sides that made extravagant claims ( project fear for example) in court too?
Like I keep saying Boris is damaged goods. He shouldn't have stood and left the way open forSteve Baker.
The difference is Varche that the £350 million claim was proved to be false, when the other claims could not be, and still not could be, whilst Boris kept on preaching that message. He was officially warned it was false. He decided to maintain that stance, and now thank goodness he is going to be brought to book over this. :y :y
He would be an absolute disaster as a Prime Minister. :(
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He would be an absolute disaster as a Prime Minister. :(
<Looks at the list to see if there's anyone standing who wouldn't be> :(
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At least Boris would be more fun! Who could honestly say anything good about the rest? ::)
Ron.
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Looks like Boris has been nobbled. Someone is taking him to court for misconduct in public office. He,s probably guilty of that, but what politician isn't ? ::)
It is over the 350 million bus claim whilst in public office. Fair enough. Will we also see all the riders on both sides that made extravagant claims ( project fear for example) in court too?
Like I keep saying Boris is damaged goods. He shouldn't have stood and left the way open forSteve Baker.
He is certainly not worried by a 'no deal ' Brexit. :)
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Surely to meet the diversity quote it will have to be Leadsom or Javid....
Girlie. Not appropriate for the job. Would be out of her depth.
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Like the present incumbent?
Ron.
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Like the present incumbent?
Ron.
Yep...but on the positive side I'm sure that both girls are more than capable of making a delicious Victoria sponge for their respective husbands. :y
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Looks like Boris has been nobbled. Someone is taking him to court for misconduct in public office. He,s probably guilty of that, but what politician isn't ? ::)
It is over the 350 million bus claim whilst in public office. Fair enough. Will we also see all the riders on both sides that made extravagant claims ( project fear for example) in court too?
Like I keep saying Boris is damaged goods. He shouldn't have stood and left the way open forSteve Baker.
The difference is Varche that the £350 million claim was proved to be false, when the other claims could not be, and still not could be, whilst Boris kept on preaching that message. He was officially warned it was false. He decided to maintain that stance, and now thank goodness he is going to be brought to book over this. :y :y
He would be an absolute disaster as a Prime Minister. :(
I've always been astonished that people think that what was written on the side of the bus was a promise to pay the NHS £350 million a week. ::)
It was a suggestion certainly, but not a promise and the funny thing is that it seems to be the superior more intelligent, better educated remainy types who seem to think it was a promise. :-\ :D
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Looks like Boris has been nobbled. Someone is taking him to court for misconduct in public office. He,s probably guilty of that, but what politician isn't ? ::)
It is over the 350 million bus claim whilst in public office. Fair enough. Will we also see all the riders on both sides that made extravagant claims ( project fear for example) in court too?
Like I keep saying Boris is damaged goods. He shouldn't have stood and left the way open forSteve Baker.
The difference is Varche that the £350 million claim was proved to be false, when the other claims could not be, and still not could be, whilst Boris kept on preaching that message. He was officially warned it was false. He decided to maintain that stance, and now thank goodness he is going to be brought to book over this. :y :y
He would be an absolute disaster as a Prime Minister. :(
I've always been astonished that people think that what was written on the side of the bus was a promise to pay the NHS £350 million a week. ::)
It was a suggestion certainly, but not a promise and the funny thing is that it seems to be the superior more intelligent, better educated remainy types who seem to think it was a promise. :-\ :D
It was false advertising which if stated alongside a product being sold on TV or in the general media would have been banned. It was a blatant lie, and although it was proved to be at the time, general Joe Public who wanted to Leave still went along with it as once you advertise anything, true or false, a percentage will always believe it, especially if they believe in Boris. He put his name to it and now, hopefully, he will pay for that con. :y
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The UK gross contribution to the EU in 2016 was £19 billion. After the rebate it was £14 billion.
So £350 million a week doesn't sound far out to me. ::)
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It may have been more honest to use the post rebate figure, but then again that will more than likely soon disappear had we stayed in.
Anyway, if we start taking politicians to court for telling lies, the courts are going to be permanently busy.
Hopefully someone will reciprocate with Cameron / Osborne for the lies they told during the campaign.
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Wasn't Gove standing alongside Boris when he made this claim?
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The UK gross contribution to the EU in 2016 was £19 billion. After the rebate it was £14 billion.
So £350 million a week doesn't sound far out to me. ::)
I will repeat again:
"The UK Statistics Authority, whilst the bus was still going around, made it clear that "£350 million" claim was "misleading and undermines trust in official statistics”as the net figure actually paid to the EU, after all considerations such as rebates and payments from the EU, according to Sir Andrew Dilnot, the chair of the authority, was nearer £136 million per week."
That was and still is the official version, not imagination or the lie of someone like Boris ;)
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Yes, but it was more accurate accounting than Diane Abbott's! ;D
Ron.
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The UK gross contribution to the EU in 2016 was £19 billion. After the rebate it was £14 billion.
So £350 million a week doesn't sound far out to me. ::)
I will repeat again:
"The UK Statistics Authority, whilst the bus was still going around, made it clear that "£350 million" claim was "misleading and undermines trust in official statistics”as the net figure actually paid to the EU, after all considerations such as rebates and payments from the EU, according to Sir Andrew Dilnot, the chair of the authority, was nearer £136 million per week."
That was and still is the official version, not imagination or the lie of someone like Boris ;)
I believe Sir Andrews figures to be crap. It appears he includes the money returned to this country by way of EU spending/ grants. That shouldn't be deducted from our contribution figures as we have no say on how it is spent.
Much of it is spent in educational institutions to brainwash students, as evidenced by your very muddled political assertions.
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The UK gross contribution to the EU in 2016 was £19 billion. After the rebate it was £14 billion.
So £350 million a week doesn't sound far out to me. ::)
I will repeat again:
"The UK Statistics Authority, whilst the bus was still going around, made it clear that "£350 million" claim was "misleading and undermines trust in official statistics”as the net figure actually paid to the EU, after all considerations such as rebates and payments from the EU, according to Sir Andrew Dilnot, the chair of the authority, was nearer £136 million per week."
That was and still is the official version, not imagination or the lie of someone like Boris ;)
I believe Sir Andrews figures to be crap. It appears he includes the money returned to this country by way of EU spending/ grants. That shouldn't be deducted from our contribution figures as we have no say on how it is spent.
Much of it is spent in educational institutions to brainwash students, as evidenced by your very muddled political assertions.
Oh dear, here come the personal insults ::) ::)
Let us just agree, like the rest of the nation, we have different view points ;)
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as we have no say on how it is spent.
Do we ever? I have no say whatsoever on what my taxes are spent on either.
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Our elected representatives decide how our UK taxes are
wasted spent. At least we can get rid of them every five years and elect a different bunch of idiots to waste our money. ;)
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Our elected representatives decide how our UK taxes are wasted spent. At least we can get rid of them every five years and elect a different bunch of idiots to waste our money. ;)
True, but in reality the whole country is run by the civil servants, not matter what knobs are fronting it.
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Small state, low taxes, personal responsibility, is the way forward. :y
Hell will freeze over before it ever happens in your beloved EUSSR. :P :D
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Our elected representatives decide how our UK taxes are wasted spent. At least we can get rid of them every five years and elect a different bunch of idiots to waste our money. ;)
True, but in reality the whole country is run by the civil servants, not matter what knobs are fronting it.
Civil servants advise, ministers decide is the rule in Westminster. Much of what the ministers would like to do they can't due to EU directives, as their preferred policy breaks EU law. How much influence the civil servants have on policy is also dependent on how hard working & how competent the minister is. PM May has a particularly bad reputation here, plus she never listens to other ministers & MPs advice, preferring her personal advisers & civil servants.
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Mark Harper (Who? ??? :D) ex-Chief Whip has thrown his hat into the increasingly crowded ring. ::) :)
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If all the Tory MP,s stand, how will anyone get more than one vote ? ;D
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If all the Tory MP,s stand, how will anyone get more than one vote ? ;D
You appear to be overestimating their competence. ;)
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If all the Tory MP,s stand, how will anyone get more than one vote ? ;D
The 1922 committee are now considering changing the rules on how Conservative MP's are nominated to stand. They recognise they have had too many of their MP's put themselves forward to be PM! ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D
God, they cannot even get that right! :o :o
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Yet another! Sam Gyimah who wants to have another referendum. ::)
I think that's 14 now but I've probably lost count. :D This thread could outlast the bus thread at this rate! ;D
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Yet another! Sam Gyimah who wants to have another referendum. ::)
I think that's 14 now but I've probably lost count. :D This thread could outlast the bus thread at this rate! ;D
About five feet nothing in height. He'll need to stand on a box. :)
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Yet another! Sam Gyimah who wants to have another referendum. ::)
I think that's 14 now but I've probably lost count. :D This thread could outlast the bus thread at this rate! ;D
About five feet nothing in height. He'll need to stand on his soap box. :)
Yes you're probably right M'lud. :)
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Kit Malthouse and James Cleverly have dropped out today and the 1922 Committee have amended the rules so contenders need to have eight MP's nominations rather than just two. This will probably preclude some from standing at the deadline of 10th June.
I've tidied up the poll and will delete or add names as people drop out or join the contest. :)
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It now seems to be the thing to admit to taking drugs in your youth and all these candidates are a bunch of druggies! :o ;D
The deadline for nominations is 1700 tomorrow. :)
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It now seems to be the thing to admit to taking drugs in your youth and all these candidates are a bunch of druggies! :o ;D
The deadline for nominations is 1700 tomorrow. :)
No, I am Spartacus. ::)
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Yet another! Sam Gyimah who wants to have another referendum. ::)
I think that's 14 now but I've probably lost count. :D This thread could outlast the bus thread at this rate! ;D
About five feet nothing in height. He'll need to stand on his soap box. :)
Yes you're probably right M'lud. :)
Soap box?
Some say it would be a banana box. Obviously, I am not one of them. :)
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It now seems to be the thing to admit to taking drugs in your youth and all these candidates are a bunch of druggies! :o ;D
The deadline for nominations is 1700 tomorrow. :)
No, I am Spartacus. ::)
No, I am Spartacus (albeit a gentle, softy, female version)!! ::) ::) ;D ;D ;)
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It now seems to be the thing to admit to taking drugs in your youth and all these candidates are a bunch of druggies! :o ;D
The deadline for nominations is 1700 tomorrow. :)
"Look at me, Im not some upper class twit out of touch with the real world. I took drugs when I was younger, so Im really cool you see."
Its utterly pathetic. Beyond embarrassing. >:(
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Yes Gove has been accused of hypocrisy.Fancy that a hypocritical MP :o :o Who'd have thunked it? ;D ;D ;D
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I say he who is without sin cast the first stone.........
How many politicians could ever say they are without sin??!! ::) :D ;)
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Cant imagine Maggie ever having smoked a spliff or a snort of Charlie. ::) :D
Istr she nicked another womans husband though. :)
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Gove will be along shortly to take part in Sir Tigs poll, where there are 12 lines to score on. ::) ::) ::)
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Gove will be along shortly to take part in Sir Tigs poll, where there are 12 lines to score on. ::) ::) ::)
I think he'll leave us with 4 or five left by this time tomorrow! :)
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Cant imagine Maggie ever having smoked a spliff or a snort of Charlie. ::) :D
Istr she nicked another womans husband though. :)
He'd been divorced for 3 years when they met, but who uses actual facts in a Brexit post?
She did make her money the old fashioned way though; she married it.
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I have read that the "hadn't met until he had been divorced three years", wasn't actually true but was party spin.
I neither know nor care. She was the best PM of my lifetime, regardless of when she started getting her knicks off for dirty Den. :)
If she were still around I would be voting for her in a few weeks time. ;)
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Surprisingly one one candidate dropped out today, Sam Gyimah.
So 10 candidates go forward to the first ballot for MP's on Thursday. :)
Boris Johnson
Micheal Gove
Sajid Javid
Jeremy Hunt
Esther McVey
Dominic Raab
Matt Hancock
Rory Stewart
Andrea Leadsom
Mark Harper
I understand that next week there will be a series of ballots until there are two candidates left for Albs to choose from. I'll update the poll as we go. :y
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Surprisingly one one candidate dropped out today, Sam Gyimah.
So 10 candidates go forward to the first ballot for MP's on Thursday. :)
Boris Johnson
Micheal Gove
Sajid Javid
Jeremy Hunt
Esther McVey
Dominic Raab
Matt Hancock
Rory Stewart
Andrea Leadsom
Mark Harper
I understand that next week there will be a series of ballots until there are two candidates left for Albs to choose from. I'll update the poll as we go. :y
And each of those candidates has at least eight backers, a prerequisite for going forward from here. Just how split is the Tory party?
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Well it all kicked off at Esther McVey's campaign launch today at the Bruges Group! :o ;D
Angry Man Linky! (http://www.itnproductions.co.uk/news/video-esther-mcvey-speech-interrupted-by-man-shouting-fake-news?type=raw)
Tell you what though, Alb's has really lost his accent! ;D
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;D ;D ;D ::)
From the final list I can rule out -
Gove
Javid
Hunt
Hancock
Stewart
Harper
and probably McVey. :)
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I don't think that Leadsom will make the cut. :-\ But McVey is growing on me. :)
I reckon she's the one to get a good deal with Trump and I can just imagine her saying to him in that sultry scouse accent "C'mon Donald, you know you want to" :o He'd be putty... :D ;D
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And what has bungling, almost silent bafoon Boris announced to promote his aims to become our PM, he will cut taxes, not for the lowest paid workers, but for those of the 3 million who are the highest paid, raising the 40% threshold from £50,000 to £80,000 per year.
Yep, that really will win votes from the general public when the next General Election takes place!! :o :o ::) ::)
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And what has bungling, almost silent bafoon Boris announced to promote his aims to become our PM, he will cut taxes, not for the lowest paid workers, but for those of the 3 million who are the highest paid, raising the 40% threshold from £50,000 to £80,000 per year.
Yep, that really will win votes from the general public when the next General Election takes place!! :o :o ::) ::)
Actually I think it's quite astute.
There are a lot of ordinary people who have been dragged into the higher rate tax band due to the stagnation of the threshold. Public sector workers like senior nurses, teachers etc are affected. ;)
I have a friend who is a proper lefty guardianista and he works for a quango. He's a classic middle class, metropolitan, university educated labour voter and I'm not sure what his salary is, but I know it's between £40-50k and I know it sticks in his craw that it is the Tories that save him money in tax! ;D
Of course I feel duty bound to remind him of this from time to time. :)
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The 40% threshold has been raised for the past two years and, I think, is going to be at £50,000 next year. Slim Phil managed to almost negate any savings by raising the NI limit.
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And what has bungling, almost silent bafoon Boris announced to promote his aims to become our PM, he will cut taxes, not for the lowest paid workers, but for those of the 3 million who are the highest paid, raising the 40% threshold from £50,000 to £80,000 per year.
Yep, that really will win votes from the general public when the next General Election takes place!! :o :o ::) ::)
Actually I think it's quite astute.
There are a lot of ordinary people who have been dragged into the higher rate tax band due to the stagnation of the threshold. Public sector workers like senior nurses, teachers etc are affected. ;)
I have a friend who is a proper lefty guardianista and he works for a quango. He's a classic middle class, metropolitan, university educated labour voter and I'm not sure what his salary is, but I know it's between £40-50k and I know it sticks in his craw that it is the Tories that save him money in tax! ;D
Of course I feel duty bound to remind him of this from time to time. :)
Fellow Conservative MP's do not think so, but Corbyn thinks it is great and is waiting eagerly for the General Election to come! ::) ::) ;D ;D ;)
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The last thing Corbyn wants at the moment is a general election. ;) The Tories also don't want one any more than he does.
Its all talk because no-one can admit they are scared of having one. The last politician to let that one slip out was Foot, and it destroyed him. :)
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The last thing Corbyn wants at the moment is a general election. ;) The Tories also don't want one any more than he does.
Its all talk because no-one can admit they are scared of having one. The last politician to let that one slip out was Foot, and it destroyed him. :)
Grandad Vince might like one before he dies retires.
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The last thing Corbyn wants at the moment is a general election. ;) The Tories also don't want one any more than he does.
Its all talk because no-one can admit they are scared of having one. The last politician to let that one slip out was Foot, and it destroyed him. :)
The trouble is the PM contenders are all saying different things over Brexit, with some saying they would renegotiate. What!!! So we go on the merry go round yet again, repeating everything that has gone before and the EU saying NO!! ::) ::) :o :o :o
Parliament will love all that again, NOT!! :o :o :o
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Maybe one will be brave enough to say..
Start point is no deal. Then we will negotiate afresh. ( lots of basic work has already been done)
New leaving date of say Oct 20 2020. Plenty of time for businesses to make their arrangements.
I see we have signed a free trade agreement in principlewith South Korea. Unsurpringly it is much the same as now! Parts and cars to UK and Cars and crude oil to them. Lets get a shed load more fta agreements signed.
Those scaremongers that say food prices will rocket.... do the US not want to sell us cheap food? Surely we just need to ahree some standards? Joe publicwill love evencheaper chicken prices for their KFC !
Johnson is keeping his powder dry. Shame he didnt stand and instead back Steve Baker. Hey Ho.
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Meanwhile, the EU are putting a lot of effort into a technology led border in Ireland in the event of a no deal, after claiming it wasn't possible to do so for the last three years. ::)
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Rather surprised the Number 10 cat is not an option. :)
The last two pussies haven't fared so well...
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And what has bungling, almost silent bafoon Boris announced to promote his aims to become our PM, he will cut taxes, not for the lowest paid workers, but for those of the 3 million who are the highest paid, raising the 40% threshold from £50,000 to £80,000 per year.
Yep, that really will win votes from the general public when the next General Election takes place!! :o :o ::) ::)
Actually, I think it would. Certainly he would get my vote and every single member of my teams, as what he offers would be a significant tax cut.
Wether he can deliver it or not, that's another question. But given the other options, he has my vote at the moment. (if he wins)
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And what has bungling, almost silent bafoon Boris announced to promote his aims to become our PM, he will cut taxes, not for the lowest paid workers, but for those of the 3 million who are the highest paid, raising the 40% threshold from £50,000 to £80,000 per year.
Yep, that really will win votes from the general public when the next General Election takes place!! :o :o ::) ::)
Think that Boris is thinking very short term and his target is all the well off Tory party members who will decide who is the next leader of the party and subsequently prime minister.
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And what has bungling, almost silent bafoon Boris announced to promote his aims to become our PM, he will cut taxes, not for the lowest paid workers, but for those of the 3 million who are the highest paid, raising the 40% threshold from £50,000 to £80,000 per year.
Yep, that really will win votes from the general public when the next General Election takes place!! :o :o ::) ::)
Actually, I think it would. Certainly he would get my vote and every single member of my teams, as what he offers would be a significant tax cut.
Wether he can deliver it or not, that's another question. But given the other options, he has my vote at the moment. (if he wins)
Tax cuts are great , just the small problem of who makes up the shortfall , it has to come from somewhere , mmm , I wonder which mugs will get shafted for that one , err , could that be us ? :y
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I've just seen the results of a poll about fitness or otherwise to be PM, and the question was....
What makes you most unfit to be PM?
The results were...
Been on cocaine. 3%
Been on cannabis. 2%
Been on opium. 2%
Been on Diane Abbott. 93%
;D
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I've just seen the results of a poll about fitness or otherwise to be PM, and the question was....
What makes you most unfit to be PM?
The results were...
Been on cocaine. 3%
Been on cannabis. 2%
Been on opium. 2%
Been on Diane Abbott. 93%
;D
;D ;D
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;D ;D :y
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And what has bungling, almost silent bafoon Boris announced to promote his aims to become our PM, he will cut taxes, not for the lowest paid workers, but for those of the 3 million who are the highest paid, raising the 40% threshold from £50,000 to £80,000 per year.
Yep, that really will win votes from the general public when the next General Election takes place!! :o :o ::) ::)
Actually, I think it would. Certainly he would get my vote and every single member of my teams, as what he offers would be a significant tax cut.
Wether he can deliver it or not, that's another question. But given the other options, he has my vote at the moment. (if he wins)
Tax cuts are great , just the small problem of who makes up the shortfall , it has to come from somewhere , mmm , I wonder which mugs will get shafted for that one , err , could that be us ? :y
It is often the case that tax cuts generate more wealth to more than make up the shortfall. High taxation usually results in a low productivity economy.
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And what has bungling, almost silent bafoon Boris announced to promote his aims to become our PM, he will cut taxes, not for the lowest paid workers, but for those of the 3 million who are the highest paid, raising the 40% threshold from £50,000 to £80,000 per year.
Yep, that really will win votes from the general public when the next General Election takes place!! :o :o ::) ::)
Actually, I think it would. Certainly he would get my vote and every single member of my teams, as what he offers would be a significant tax cut.
Wether he can deliver it or not, that's another question. But given the other options, he has my vote at the moment. (if he wins)
Tax cuts are great , just the small problem of who makes up the shortfall , it has to come from somewhere , mmm , I wonder which mugs will get shafted for that one , err , could that be us ? :y
Exactly :y
Then there is the case that the working classes are not being promised those tax cuts, whilst most people want an increase in funding for the NHS, Education, Care Services and
Policing, but in their eyes are not getting that either. Only a political boffoon would think that "presentation" and public perception is going to keep them in power.
Only Boffoon Boris would play to the audiences of Conservatives with a short term, narrow, political game. The danger is the mugs will fall for it, and the resultant mess that will result from it that we all will pay for. It just cannot get any worse, can it? (I know the answer, and so do many Conservative MP's who still do not have one line of thought between them) [/highlight]
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It just cannot get any worse, can it? (I know the answer, and so do many Conservative MP's who still do not have one line of thought between them)
I don't know about that Lizzie, as it seems that Conservative MP's have had plenty of lines between them! ;D
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It just cannot get any worse, can it? (I know the answer, and so do many Conservative MP's who still do not have one line of thought between them)
I don't know about that Lizzie, as it seems that Conservative MP's have had plenty of lines between them! ;D
Oh, very good Sir Tigger! ;D ;D ;D :y
Funnily enough the journalist who attended Buffoon Boris's 'party' yesterday emphasised how when Boris was asked if he had taken drugs he pointedly ignored the question! He cannot even tell the truth when asked a direct question. In fact his overall performance was embarrassing, and he wants to lead the Conservative Party, and maybe the country, if the country do not go into revolt first! ::) ::) ::)
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If you watch the video of Boris's speech yesterday, Steve 'Stop Brexit' Bray the top hatted fella from Port Talbot can be faintly heard from outside yelling "Stop Boris!" through his mega phone! ;D
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If you watch the video of Boris's speech yesterday, Steve 'Stop Brexit' Bray the top hatted fella from Port Talbot can be faintly heard from outside yelling "Stop Boris!" through his mega phone! ;D
Yes, I heard that familiar voice loud and clear like when he is behind those being interviewed opposite the Houses of Parliament, and I just laughed! It was so amusing, and I just wondered who he had bribed to get into the audience with Boris. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
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Three out...get it updated, Tig.
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Harper, Leadsome and McVey gone, BTW.
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Boris Johnson 114
Jeremy Hunt 43
Micheal Gove 37
Dominic Raab 27
Sajid Javid 23
Matt Hancock 20
Rory Stewart 19
Andrea Leadsom 11
Mark Harper 10
Esther McVey 9
Leadsom, Harper and McVey are out! :)
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There's an echo in here. :)
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There's an echo in here. :)
No there's not! :P
Poll amended and zeroed! :y
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No women left then.
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No women left then.
Not very progressive is it? :)
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After the last one perhaps it,s no surprise. Joking aside, anyone who steps up is inheriting a right royal ballsup. :)
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No women left then.
It's not a job for a girlie. Nor anyone LBGTPSUYHFQ. ;D
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No women left then.
Every cloud...... ;D
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Boris is going to be the PM this time next month. I still don't know if I will vote for him, as I don't know who his opponent will be, but It wont make any difference. He,s a shoe in.
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No women left then.
It's not a job for a girlie. Nor anyone LBGTPSUYHFQ. ;D
It's certainly not a job for any of the girlies that were in the running. ::)
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My boy is still in the running........just. :)
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My boy is still in the running........just. :)
You'd better vote for him again then! ;D
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I just can't see Johnson cutting it. He is damaged goods .
The hard core Remainers will be rioting on the streets.
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When it all comes down to it, it really doesn't matter. We've had all the bullshit around Brexit for three years, now we're having all the bullshit around the new messiah. No one person can possibly make the deal live or die, it has to be a majority of MPs, and no one person can alter the dynamic in the house.
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I just can't see Johnson cutting it. He is damaged goods .
The hard core Remainers will be rioting on the streets.
I just can't see Johnson cutting it. He is damaged goods .
The hard core Remainers can opps off.
Fixed :P
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When it all comes down to it, it really doesn't matter. We've had all the bullshit around Brexit for three years, now we're having all the bullshit around the new messiah. No one person can possibly make the deal live or die, it has to be a majority of MPs, and no one person can alter the dynamic in the house.
Oh FFS, I don't believe this, STEMO is talking sense.
Unless someone can sway The House firmly one way or the other, it won't happen.
One just hopes that whoever one favours has enough clout to push his/her agenda through convincingly
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With the EU recent elections in the back of their minds, will they dare try to stop it again ?
A lot of Northern Labour MP,s must be feeling very nervous.
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With the EU recent elections in the back of their minds, will they dare try to stop it again ?
A lot of Northern Labour MP,s must be feeling very nervous.
Yes they will, as they've convinced themselves that the EU elections were a protest vote and the Brexit Party are a flash in the pan. ::)
Evidenced by Tuesday's attempt to gain control of parliamentary business on the 25th to legislate against no deal.
An attempt that was defeated by only 11 votes!
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When it all comes down to it, it really doesn't matter. We've had all the bullshit around Brexit for three years, now we're having all the bullshit around the new messiah. No one person can possibly make the deal live or die, it has to be a majority of MPs, and no one person can alter the dynamic in the house.
Oh FFS, I don't believe this, STEMO is talking sense.
Unless someone can sway The House firmly one way or the other, it won't happen.
One just hopes that whoever one favours has enough clout to push his/her agenda through convincingly
Yes indeed, STEMO is saying what many believe, including I :y
The actors in a play may change but the play itself still ends with the same storyline conclusion.
We are about to go around and around yet again >:( >:(
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Matt Hancock has pulled out, so we're now down to 6 contestants! :)
In other news Chuckup Umunna has joined the LimpDems. I really dislike the arrogant dick and hope he loses his seat at the next election. :)
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Matt Hancock has pulled out, so we're now down to 6 contestants! :)
In other news Chuckup Umunna has joined the LimpDems. I really dislike the arrogant dick and hope he loses his seat at the next election. :)
At least he had the good grace to say he wasn't going to run for the leadership when Vince steps down. As you say, arrogant tosser.
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He will spend a couple of years undermining the new leader, then go for the job. ;)
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He will spend a couple of years undermining the new leader, then go for the job. ;)
Hopefully the electorate will have other ideas! :y
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Boris is going to be the PM this time next month. I still don't know if I will vote for him, as I don't know who his opponent will be, but It wont make any difference. He,s a shoe in.
It's hard not to like Boris.
He makes his own entertainment as he crashes through life like a boisterous 6 year old with learning difficulties and ADHD.
He is a 'character' where Jeremy Hunt by comparison is a sterile lifeless individual. :-\
Personally, I think the job of PM will prove 'too big' for good old BOJO....... :-\ Apparently he has the attention span of a goldfish. :)
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Boris is going to be the PM this time next month. I still don't know if I will vote for him, as I don't know who his opponent will be, but It wont make any difference. He,s a shoe in.
It's hard not to like Boris.
He makes his own entertainment as he crashes through life like a boisterous 6 year old with learning difficulties and ADHD.
He is a 'character' where Jeremy Hunt by comparison is a sterile lifeless individual. :-\
Personally, I think the job of PM will prove 'too big' for good old BOJO....... :-\ Apparently he has the attention span of a goldfish. :)
It's hard to understand the appeal of Boris: a man who has wheedled his way into far too many chances and blown everyone of them.
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Boris is going to be the PM this time next month. I still don't know if I will vote for him, as I don't know who his opponent will be, but It wont make any difference. He,s a shoe in.
It's hard not to like Boris.
He makes his own entertainment as he crashes through life like a boisterous 6 year old with learning difficulties and ADHD.
He is a 'character' where Jeremy Hunt by comparison is a sterile lifeless individual. :-\
Personally, I think the job of PM will prove 'too big' for good old BOJO....... :-\ Apparently he has the attention span of a goldfish. :)
It's hard to understand the appeal of Boris: a man who has wheedled his way into far too many chances and blown everyone of them.
I totally agree with that! :y :y
Boris would/will be a total disaster for not only country (will the country elect him during this process?;'NO! Which is another democratic failure >:( >:( :() but also for the Conservaties.
I, a committed right winger, most of the time outside of my Socialist traits, will not vote for the Conservates again all the time that, Bufoon is leading them. >:(
I was listening to an Islamic leader within the Conservative Party earlier and he was making a very clear point that Muslims within the party will not vote Conservative all the time he is the leader of the party. He stated emphaticall that he had proved he cannot be trusted! How bloody true, regardless of the religious point of view :y :y
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Muslims, eh? F**k 'em. ;D
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That will be negated by all the Jews who won't vote Labour while Corbyn is leader. :)
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That will be negated by all the Jews who won't vote Labour while Corbyn is leader. :)
Not quite Steve; there are far more Muslims than Jews :D ;)
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Im wondering if people are voting in the poll for who they think will be the next leader, or who they want to be the next leader ? :-\
Cant see Javid stand a snowballs chance in hell tbh. - which is a good thing. He is a useless spineless little twerp. :)
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Im wondering if people are voting in the poll for who they think will be the next leader, or who they want to be the next leader ? :-\
Cant see Javid stand a snowballs chance in hell tbh. - which is a good thing. He is a useless spineless little twerp. :)
Good point. The question was really intended to show who people would like to be PM not necessarily who they think will be. ::)
Maybe I should change the question? ???
Have a poll to see what the question should be? ;D
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MP's are,of course, fishing for a position in the next cabinet. There will be horse trading galore in dark corners.
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I'm having a chuckle at the leftie/remainy crowd who are raging that about 120,000 middle class old white men get to choose who our next PM is. ::)
They didn't seem impressed when I reminded them that they've spent the last three years slagging off the general public who don't know what they are voting for or asked who elected Gordon Brown. ;D
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I heard a report today that Nick Hancock is endorsing Boris. The fact that Hancock voted remain shows that he only has eyes on a top job under Boris and not sticking with his principles. Am i surprised, no.
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If Boris is the one selected, not by us the people, or even everyday Conservatives, after all his usual avoidance of giving anyone a clear idea of what he can actually do with Brexit, let alone run the country, because it is feared by his camp that he is going to make the usual gaff, then we are doomed. It is all a farce as they, my party, have acted recently, let alone if they select Buffoon Boris as PM then his Government will be short term.
A General Election MUST be offered to the people to give the government, who does eventually lead us, a new element of credibility that the current lot have lost and cannot bring back with Boris ::) ::) ::) ::)
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A General Election MUST be offered to the people to give the government, who does eventually lead us, a new element of credibility that the current lot have lost and cannot bring back with Boris ::) ::) ::) ::)
Why? ???
If there is any chance of Corbin winning a GE then they should stick it out until '22, whoever wins this contest. ::)
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A General Election MUST be offered to the people to give the government, who does eventually lead us, a new element of credibility that the current lot have lost and cannot bring back with Boris ::) ::) ::) ::)
Why? ???
If there is any chance of Corbin winning a GE then they should stick it out until '22, whoever wins this contest. ::)
Because the Government, even if Boris, or whoever, leads as PM has a very slim majority in the Commons. Nothing would have changed so they will still have great difficulty in even pushing out a Green Paper, let alone be able to put intended new policy out in a White Paper, especially as the DUP do not support the Conservatives after the Brexit fiasco. Labour will also do everything now to make hay on the low public opinion of the Conservative Government, who are seen by even Conservatives such as me as being all over the place, with no central direction and one thought about anything, and will block all and everything they can.
Politics has lost all credibility, and no main party is free of that. Parliament has to resurrect that credibility and give the public a chance to have a vote on exactly what each party represents, and what policies they can now adhere to. Brexit is Brexit, the elephant in the room, but the life of Great Britain goes on and, especially when we leave the EU, strong individuals with strong party politics must be seen to be doing the very best for us, the people. So a General Election should draw a line in the sand, put the recent past behind us, and give us the people our democracy back, well as much as our Representative Democracy will ever let us do!
In short, the selection of Boris, or whoever it is, to be Great Britain's Prime Minister has been done by a very small number of Conservative elite and this cannot be considered a sound democratic process for a long term, let alone even short term, Government. Those elite do not speak for me or you, but are acting on their own agendas. That is not democracy, and just makes everything we have seen over the last 3+ years even worse.
A General Election is the only way forward now for the sanity of the Country. :y
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Let's just stay in Europe and have that nice Mr Corbyn as PM. Then we can spend all the money the conservatives have saved up and, in five years, when the Tories get back in, we can all go and live with Varche.
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At the moment, the Brexit party is ahead in the polls and the Tories are in a solid 3rd place. For a Tory to wish for an election is to wish for either Farage or Corbyn in number 10.
Personally I would be happy to see *Farage in number 10, but would want someone to call in the generals if Corbyn won.
* As would 46% of Tory party members according to a poll this week. :)
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In short, the selection of Boris, or whoever it is, to be Great Britain's Prime Minister has been done by a very small number of Conservative elite and this cannot be considered a sound democratic process for a long term, let alone even short term, Government. Those elite do not speak for me or you, but are acting on their own agendas. That is not democracy, and just makes everything we have seen over the last 3+ years even worse.
A General Election is the only way forward now for the sanity of the Country. :y
I don't remember ANY sort of contest when Gordon Brown became PM? ??? He was just installed as our new PM and that was that for 3 years! ::)
I don't think the lefties complained about the lack of democracy then.... :-X
A GE is the last thing we need right now IMO. The Tories will do better to sit tight and let Labour rip themselves apart over BREXIT as the clock ticks down to Halloween! :y
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Good point. The question was really intended to show who people would like to be PM not necessarily who they think will be. ::)
I definitely answered the question that was asked, as I would rather just about anybody than BoJo, who I selected as my poll vote.
I don't remember ANY sort of contest when Gordon Brown became PM? ??? He was just installed as our new PM and that was that for 3 years! ::)
I don't think the lefties complained about the lack of democracy then.... :-X
A GE is the last thing we need right now IMO. The Tories will do better to sit tight and let Labour rip themselves apart over BREXIT as the clock ticks down to Halloween! :y
No, but apparently it very much bothered Boris at the time. Amongst other things he called it a 'stitch-up' and a 'coup'. Clearly he's less bothered about it at the moment ;)
https://evolvepolitics.com/boris-johnson-said-it-was-a-scandal-fraud-for-an-unelected-pm-not-to-call-immediate-general-election-after-inheriting-top-job/ (https://evolvepolitics.com/boris-johnson-said-it-was-a-scandal-fraud-for-an-unelected-pm-not-to-call-immediate-general-election-after-inheriting-top-job/)
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At the moment, the Brexit party is ahead in the polls and the Tories are in a solid 3rd place. For a Tory to wish for an election is to wish for either Farage or Corbyn in number 10.
Personally I would be happy to see *Farage in number 10, but would want someone to call in the generals if Corbyn won.
* As would 46% of Tory party members according to a poll this week. :)
Not surprised as, no doubt like me, they cannot see Boris or any of the others as a credible leader who can actually deliver Brexit. After all, Boris is saying when he says anything that he will get us out at the end of October. How exactly he is going to achieve that he never says! ::) ::) ::)
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In short, the selection of Boris, or whoever it is, to be Great Britain's Prime Minister has been done by a very small number of Conservative elite and this cannot be considered a sound democratic process for a long term, let alone even short term, Government. Those elite do not speak for me or you, but are acting on their own agendas. That is not democracy, and just makes everything we have seen over the last 3+ years even worse.
A General Election is the only way forward now for the sanity of the Country. :y
I don't remember ANY sort of contest when Gordon Brown became PM? ??? He was just installed as our new PM and that was that for 3 years! ::)
I don't think the lefties complained about the lack of democracy then.... :-X
A GE is the last thing we need right now IMO. The Tories will do better to sit tight and let Labour rip themselves apart over BREXIT as the clock ticks down to Halloween! :y
Indeed, but at least he was the Chancellor of standing (for Labour!) at the time, so had some credibility. :D
I am just so angry as to how our futures are going to be handled by THAT man when he, from my point of view, has no credibility and has achieved nothing, so why should we just accept what a small bunch of MP's decide is best fore the country when he has made so many guffs! >:( >:(
I am going to lay down now! :P :P :P ;D ;D ;)
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*Theresa May was a completely discredited and useless Home Secretary, and then popped up from behind the sofa to somehow become PM without even so much as being elected by her own MP,s, never mind the party members or the general public.
Its her who has put the Tories in their current position in the polls, not Boris or anyone else.
Im no great fan of Boris, but unless his opposition is Raab, then I have little choice but to vote for him, cross my fingers, and hope its a case of "cometh the hour. cometh the man".
The quality of the candidates is really very poor, but that's to be expected I suppose with the Modern Tory (unconservative) party. :(
One thing Im certain of is, if we dont leave the EU (and leave properly) at the end of October, the Brexit party will sweep up many millions of votes at any election after that, and maybe finish the Tory party off completely.
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I don't remember ANY sort of contest when Gordon Brown became PM? ??? He was just installed as our new PM and that was that for 3 years! ::)
I don't think the lefties complained about the lack of democracy then.... :-X
A GE is the last thing we need right now IMO. The Tories will do better to sit tight and let Labour rip themselves apart over BREXIT as the clock ticks down to Halloween! :y
No, but apparently it very much bothered Boris at the time. Amongst other things he called it a 'stitch-up' and a 'coup'. Clearly he's less bothered about it at the moment ;)
https://evolvepolitics.com/boris-johnson-said-it-was-a-scandal-fraud-for-an-unelected-pm-not-to-call-immediate-general-election-after-inheriting-top-job/ (https://evolvepolitics.com/boris-johnson-said-it-was-a-scandal-fraud-for-an-unelected-pm-not-to-call-immediate-general-election-after-inheriting-top-job/)
Yes of course he said all that, he was in opposition. What else was he supposed to say? ??? Congratulations on your coronation Gordon! ;D
At least Boris is going through a contest (of sorts) to get the job. ;)
Mind you I wouldn't be at all surprised if Gordon Brown with his usual complete lack of sense, attacks Boris for becoming an unelected PM! ;D
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Indeed, but at least he was the Chancellor of standing (for Labour!) at the time, so had some credibility. :D
I don't think I've ever heard Gordon Brown described as having credibility before! :-\ ::) ;D
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Raab out!
So that's five left...
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Raab out!
So that's five left...
Ah....Demonic Raab as Jonathan Pye calls him. :)
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Our elected representatives decide how our UK taxes are wasted spent. At least we can get rid of them every five years and elect a different bunch of idiots to waste our money. ;)
True, but in reality the whole country is run by the civil servants, not matter what knobs are fronting it.
Civil servants advise, ministers decide is the rule in Westminster. Much of what the ministers would like to do they can't due to EU directives, as their preferred policy breaks EU law. How much influence the civil servants have on policy is also dependent on how hard working & how competent the minister is. PM May has a particularly bad reputation here, plus she never listens to other ministers & MPs advice, preferring her personal advisers & civil servants.
Methinks you don't grasp how it works. A Minister, Prime or otherwise, cannot go against the senior civil service if they want the job next week.
Even the most ardent Brexiteer can't even begin to blame "Europe" for that, and the UK can and does pick and choose EU the rules it wants to follow.
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Raab out!
So that's five left...
Surely they must be able to whittle down to 1 by 6:30. I'm bored shitless.
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Our elected representatives decide how our UK taxes are wasted spent. At least we can get rid of them every five years and elect a different bunch of idiots to waste our money. ;)
True, but in reality the whole country is run by the civil servants, not matter what knobs are fronting it.
Civil servants advise, ministers decide is the rule in Westminster. Much of what the ministers would like to do they can't due to EU directives, as their preferred policy breaks EU law. How much influence the civil servants have on policy is also dependent on how hard working & how competent the minister is. PM May has a particularly bad reputation here, plus she never listens to other ministers & MPs advice, preferring her personal advisers & civil servants.
Methinks you don't grasp how it works. A Minister, Prime or otherwise, cannot go against the senior civil service if they want the job next week.
Even the most ardent Brexiteer can't even begin to blame "Europe" for that, and the UK can and does pick and choose EU the rules it wants to follow.
That's how we get continuity in foreign policy, etc. Can't be loving a country one minute and bombing it the minute we change the governing party.
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We have continuity with foreign policy? :o Who knew?! ;D
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Egg head scraped home by one vote!
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Well, I have to vote for Boris, and hope I don't live to regret it. I couldn't possibly vote for any of the others under any circumstances. ::)
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Well, I have to vote for Boris, and hope I don't live to regret it. I couldn't possibly vote for any of the others under any circumstances. ::)
I'm sure your vote will be the decider, Albs. ;D
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Well, I have to vote for Boris, and hope I don't live to regret it. I couldn't possibly vote for any of the others under any circumstances. ::)
I'm sure your vote will be the decider, Albs. ;D
I worry about Mr Bitz having a say in who runs the country....... :P :P :P
You know how fond he is of hanging people. ;)
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I watched half of the BBC's meet the contestants tonight..................what a load of rubbish!!
In my opinion they were all most unimpressive, and that is all I want to say as any more is just a waste of time! :-X
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Poll reset and question amended. :)
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Poll reset and question amended. :)
For the first time I have entered my vote, for what it is worth, and was not surprised to see only 4 of us have done so :o :o ;D
After watching what I did last night I am not surprised that there is a lack of support for any of them >:(
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It was dire and depressing viewing. :(
Emily Maitlis was awful, and I kept muttering 'Oh FFS shut up woman!' ;D
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It was dire and depressing viewing. :(
Emily Maitlis was awful, and I kept muttering 'Oh FFS shut up woman!' ;D
Mutton dressed as lamb and old rubbergob certainly likes the sound of her own voice.
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It was dire and depressing viewing. :(
Emily Maitlis was awful, and I kept muttering 'Oh FFS shut up woman!' ;D
Mutton dressed as lamb and old rubbergob certainly likes the sound of her own voice.
I find her quite sexy.......much like TB with Shami. :)
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Rory Stewart looked 'awkward' the way he was sitting.
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Boris would NOT definitively say WE WILL leave on the 31st October regardless.
Already changing his position. :)
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Boris would NOT definitively say WE WILL leave on the 31st October regardless.
Already changing his position. :)
You had your chance when we left, it's much better in Barnsley now. I bought a really wonky banana this morning ;D
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........in addition he couldn't remember the name of the 'dark foreign johnnie' from Bristol. :)
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Boris would NOT definitively say WE WILL leave on the 31st October regardless.
Already changing his position. :)
You had your chance when we left, it's much better in Barnsley now. I bought a really wonky banana this morning ;D
Passport to Pimlico. ;)
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Boris would NOT definitively say WE WILL leave on the 31st October regardless.
Already changing his position. :)
You had your chance when we left, it's much better in Barnsley now. I bought a really wonky banana this morning ;D
Passport to Pimlico. ;)
Now we're going back a bit. :)
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Boris would NOT definitively say WE WILL leave on the 31st October regardless.
Already changing his position. :)
You had your chance when we left, it's much better in Barnsley now. I bought a really wonky banana this morning ;D
Passport to Pimlico. ;)
Now we're going back a bit. :)
1949 according to Google. :)
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Boris would NOT definitively say WE WILL leave on the 31st October regardless.
Already changing his position. :)
You had your chance when we left, it's much better in Barnsley now. I bought a really wonky banana this morning ;D
Passport to Pimlico. ;)
Now we're going back a bit. :)
1949 according to Google. :)
Yes. Good, old fashioned, gentle English (so called) comedy. Everything was 'nicer' in the fifties and sixties when I use to watch stuff like that. When I get (even) older, I'm going to stay indoors and watch black and white films, eat liquorice allsorts and drink brown ale. ;D
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Boris would NOT definitively say WE WILL leave on the 31st October regardless.
Already changing his position. :)
You had your chance when we left, it's much better in Barnsley now. I bought a really wonky banana this morning ;D
Passport to Pimlico. ;)
Now we're going back a bit. :)
1949 according to Google. :)
Yes. Good, old fashioned, gentle English (so called) comedy. Everything was 'nicer' in the fifties and sixties when I use to watch stuff like that. When I get (even) older, I'm going to stay indoors and watch black and white films, eat liquorice allsorts and drink brown ale. ;D
All this and Barnsley as an independent province.. As close to Utopia as a man can get. :y :D
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........in addition he couldn't remember the name of the 'dark foreign johnnie' from Bristol. :)
Turns out that this chap has been suspended from his job as a Deputy Head of a primary school after a series of 'inappropriate' tweets. He asked Boris whether he agreed that words have consequences. ::)
I love a good irony! ;D
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Rory - darling of the media - has been knocked out, which is good news.
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Rory Stewart duly deleted from the poll. :)
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Rory - darling of the media - has been knocked out, which is good news.
After seeing a bit of his 'performance' the other night it is not surprising. :P
Now if it had been Rod Stewart he would have done far better! ;D ;D ;)
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Rory - darling of the media - has been knocked out, which is good news.
What a peculiar looking man, reminds me of Wallace of Wallace and Grommet fame.
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The handwringing of the Guardian reading classes at the exit of Rory Stewart from the leadership contest is something to behold. The fact is that I doubt whether a single one of them would have voted for him in an election.
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Good comment. :y
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So very true. I was speaking to one of those very people on Tuesday night, who told me that if Tory members have any decency and sense they couldn't vote for anyone but Rory.
I asked him if he would vote Tory if we picked the wonderful Rory as leader. "Not as long as I have breath in my body". ;D ;D ::)
They just saw him as a chance to kill Brexit. ;)
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Egg head has gone.
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Makes me wonder what Spitting Image would have made of the whole mess. Boris as a shambling zombie? May as an inept Cruella Deville? And the vegetables will have the same. Again 8)
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Egg head has gone.
I always think of Morph when I see him. :)
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Makes me wonder what Spitting Image would have made of the whole mess. Boris as a shambling zombie? May as an inept Cruella Deville? And the vegetables will have the same. Again 8)
Yep.....I remember that Thatcher sketch. ;D
.........and the one where where Nancy was trying to locate Ronald Reagan's tiny little brain ........which had rolled into his ear canal. ;D
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The Saj has been deleted from the poll and Boris is now universally popular! :)
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The Saj has been deleted from the poll and Boris is now universally popular! :)
Perhaps we should change the name of the job description from PM to Emperor. :)
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The Saj has been deleted from the poll and Boris is now universally popular! :)
Perhaps we should change the name of the job description from PM to Emperor. :)
not until he's made a complete ballsup of Conservative leader. So about a week after he gets that job.....
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Just Bojo and Hunt left now. Hunt is a complete non entity, so Bojo will walk it.
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The Saj has been deleted from the poll and Boris is now universally popular! :)
Perhaps we should change the name of the job description from PM to Emperor. :)
Remember the story of the Emperor and his new clothes; Boris has been made to believe he is wearing all the right credentials for success........................the nightmare will end soon as truth be out! ::) ::)
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Boris Johnson 160
Jeremy Hunt 77
Micheal Gove 75
Very close between Gove and Hunt! ::)
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Boris Johnson 160
Jeremy Hunt 77
Micheal Gove 75
Very close between Gove and Hunt! ::)
If I had a vote I would choose Hunt.
Boris will be out of his depth, and Gove is a slimy slithering untrustworthy little shit.
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So now we have to wait a month for the final result..... ::)
The suspense will be unbearable! ;D
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Boris Johnson 160
Jeremy Hunt 77
Micheal Gove 75
Very close between Gove and Hunt! ::)
If I had a vote I would choose Hunt.
Boris will be out of his depth, and Gove is a slimy slithering untrustworthy little shit.
Yes but he's out now so you don't have to worry yourself about PM Gove M'Lud! :)
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Boris Johnson 160
Jeremy Hunt 77
Micheal Gove 75
Very close between Gove and Hunt! ::)
If I had a vote I would choose Hunt.
Boris will be out of his depth, and Gove is a slimy slithering untrustworthy little shit.
Yes but he's out now so you don't have to worry yourself about PM Gove M'Lud! :)
Proof that there is a God. Most of the time the little turd seems obsessed with Jeremy Corbyn. :y
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The Saj has been deleted from the poll and Boris is now universally popular! :)
Perhaps we should change the name of the job description from PM to Emperor. :)
Remember the story of the Emperor and his new clothes; Boris has been made to believe he is wearing all the right credentials for success........................the nightmare will end soon as truth be out! ::) ::)
Im no Boris fan boy, but I just hope he does actually have some of the greatness in him that he wants us to believe he has.
He wants us to believe he is the new Churchill, but there hasn't been any sign of that so far. Having said that Churchill made some huge errors, some of which cost many lives, before he found greatness, so we can only hope that Boris isn't a complete buffoon.
Time will tell, but I cant see him, or anyone else who was up for the job, being as abysmal as May was. She really was so poor at the job, it was almost funny. but not quite.
At the end of the day, he was one of the leaders of the Leave campaign, so its now time for him to sort it out. The huge disadvantage he has to start with is the chaos left by May losing the Tory majority, and signing a surrender treaty disguised as a bilateral deal.
Boris is a risk taker, so I think its possible he could call an election before the end of the year, to try and get a mandate to forge ahead with Brexit.
We shall see.
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Boris Johnson 160
Jeremy Hunt 77
Micheal Gove 75
Very close between Gove and Hunt! ::)
If I had a vote I would choose Hunt.
Boris will be out of his depth, and Gove is a slimy slithering untrustworthy little shit.
Yes but he's out now so you don't have to worry yourself about PM Gove M'Lud! :)
Proof that there is a God. Most of the time the little turd seems obsessed with Jeremy Corbyn. :y
No doubt he's a very wealthy little turd, so probably lies awake at night working out how to protect his treasure from Corbyn and McDonnell. ::)
You should too! :)
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When an election is announced many many billions of pounds will be sent out of this country on the same day.
If I had any money I would do the same. ;D
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When an election is announced many many billions of pounds will be sent out of this country on the same day.
If I had any money I would do the same. ;D
Apparently the average Tory member who will pick the new PM are over 55, white, and wealthy........this must be you. :)
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Two out of three aint bad. ;D
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Two out of three aint bad. ;D
Would this be wealthy and white or wealthy and over 55?........... ::) ::)
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The Saj has been deleted from the poll and Boris is now universally popular! :)
Perhaps we should change the name of the job description from PM to Emperor. :)
Remember the story of the Emperor and his new clothes; Boris has been made to believe he is wearing all the right credentials for success........................the nightmare will end soon as truth be out! ::) ::)
Im no Boris fan boy, but I just hope he does actually have some of the greatness in him that he wants us to believe he has.
He wants us to believe he is the new Churchill, but there hasn't been any sign of that so far. Having said that Churchill made some huge errors, some of which cost many lives, before he found greatness, so we can only hope that Boris isn't a complete buffoon.
Time will tell, but I cant see him, or anyone else who was up for the job, being as abysmal as May was. She really was so poor at the job, it was almost funny. but not quite.
At the end of the day, he was one of the leaders of the Leave campaign, so its now time for him to sort it out. The huge disadvantage he has to start with is the chaos left by May losing the Tory majority, and signing a surrender treaty disguised as a bilateral deal.
Boris is a risk taker, so I think its possible he could call an election before the end of the year, to try and get a mandate to forge ahead with Brexit.
We shall see.
When I hear that, and somebody mentioned it only this evening, I end up almost chocking to death. At the very least he has got to work on his presentation even to be considered as something on Churchill's shoes. The great man as you say did make big, if not one, huge mistake (Galliplie Campaign 1915-16, with Churchill forever haunted about thousands of dead bodies in the water), but he had real guts, real forceful determination, who won wars, which the Buffoon Boris has just not got. He is a pretender who insults Churchill by even suggesting he is another like him! >:(
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You are probably right, but I hope your wrong. ;)
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Bumbling oaf it is then :y
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You are probably right, but I hope your wrong. ;)
So do I for the sake of our country and sanity!! ::) ::) :D ;)
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You are probably right, but I hope your wrong. ;)
So do I for the sake of our country and sanity!! ::) ::) :D ;)
I have never gone along with the doctrine that Boris Johnson is really an intellectual colossus masquerading as a bumbling buffoon.
I think he is all buffoon. He is entertaining though. :)
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Should do a remake of Frankie's two tribes video with Donald and Boris.
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You are probably right, but I hope your wrong. ;)
So do I for the sake of our country and sanity!! ::) ::) :D ;)
I have never gone along with the doctrine that Boris Johnson is really an intellectual colossus masquerading as a bumbling buffoon.
I think he is all buffoon. He is entertaining though. :)
But that is one of the problems with him Opti, to me, is never even a bit entaining, just damned annoying! ::) ::) ;)
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Should do a remake of Frankie's two tribes video with Donald and Boris.
Trump would grab him by the pussy..... ::) ;)
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Should do a remake of Frankie's two tribes video with Donald and Boris.
Trump would grab him by the pussy..... ::) ;)
Yep, Trump would gobble him up and spit him out :D ;)
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How is it going then?
Hunt ( May in trousers) the popular underdog. Adapting his policies on the run
Johnson ( has been) the ardent Brexiteers choice because he is going to deliver Brexit
What no one mentions is nothing has changed in the impasse with parliament. I would also be surprised if anything has changed with the EU. The incoming unelected new leaders ( work in progress today) will sing from the same hymn sheet as before. No new negotiations.
I see the government has opened up tenders for extra cross channel capacity to smooth any no deal chaos.
Anyone been following Switzerland/EU / They operate open borders but aren't in the EU? The EU are desperately trying to close it down. I wonder why ( Ireland/Northern Ireland perhaps!)
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Do you know as a Conservative I am sick to death about BOTH the remaining two runners!
They are BOTH coming out with so much 'dangle berries' it makes me so angry I cannot be bothered anymore.
With Corbyn crippling himself by the day, thank goodness, I just wonder what the future holds. Brexit could prove to be a walk in the park compared to what is to come!! ::) ::) :-X
Come on Farage?!! ::) ::) :-X
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If Boris cant get Brexit done somehow by 31st October, I think he will have little choice but to call an election.
I imagine the result would either be a Labour / Libdem coalition, which doesn't bear thinking about, or a Tory / Brexit party coalition, which imo, would be the perfect result.
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Do you know as a Conservative I am sick to death about BOTH the remaining two runners!
They are BOTH coming out with so much 'dangle berries' it makes me so angry I cannot be bothered anymore.
With Corbyn crippling himself by the day, thank goodness, I just wonder what the future holds. Brexit could prove to be a walk in the park compared to what is to come!! ::) ::) :-X
Come on Farage?!! ::) ::) :-X
It is comforting to know that the new leaders of the EU are being put in place. Can’t say elected as we haven't had a say. Tusk says the new team will be as united on Brexit as the old one.
It got worse . Listening to Ursula von der Leyen , her goals are the very reasons I voted leave . Who decided on these EU goals? Certainly not the people. I dont think it is the MEPs either.
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Do you know as a Conservative I am sick to death about BOTH the remaining two runners!
They are BOTH coming out with so much 'dangle berries' it makes me so angry I cannot be bothered anymore.
With Corbyn crippling himself by the day, thank goodness, I just wonder what the future holds. Brexit could prove to be a walk in the park compared to what is to come!! ::) ::) :-X
Come on Farage?!! ::) ::) :-X
It is comforting to know that the new leaders of the EU are being put in place. Can’t say elected as we haven't had a say. Tusk says the new team will be as united on Brexit as the old one.
It got worse . Listening to Ursula von der Leyen , her goals are the very reasons I voted leave . Who decided on these EU goals? Certainly not the people. I dont think it is the MEPs either.
I take it that in Spain your news featured the Brexit Party MEP's turning their back at the opening ceremony of the EU Parliament. So these MEP's of ours certainly know what the truth is of that! ;D ;D ;)
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Do you know as a Conservative I am sick to death about BOTH the remaining two runners!
They are BOTH coming out with so much 'dangle berries' it makes me so angry I cannot be bothered anymore.
With Corbyn crippling himself by the day, thank goodness, I just wonder what the future holds. Brexit could prove to be a walk in the park compared to what is to come!! ::) ::) :-X
Come on Farage?!! ::) ::) :-X
Perhaps the Conservative party could dig up Maggie and put 50,000 volts through her corpse to see if she can be 'jump started'........ :)
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Red herring.
Our uk MEPs are a mixed bunch possibly only there for a short while depending on whether the useless Tories can deliver the so called “ will of the people” Brexit.
If we Brexit we will have our own set of problems to confront. If we dont Brexit then it is more of the same . No learning, listening or adapting.
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Red herring.
Our uk MEPs are a mixed bunch possibly only there for a short while depending on whether the useless Tories can deliver the so called “ will of the people” Brexit.
If we Brexit we will have our own set of problems to confront. If we dont Brexit then it is more of the same . No learning, listening or adapting.
The Brexit Party MEP's are certainly only there to cause as much trouble, and be a nuisance, as they can for the benefit of UK audiences ;D ;D ;)
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Red herring.
Our uk MEPs are a mixed bunch possibly only there for a short while depending on whether the useless Tories can deliver the so called “ will of the people” Brexit.
If we Brexit we will have our own set of problems to confront. If we dont Brexit then it is more of the same . No learning, listening or adapting.
The Brexit Party MEP's are certainly only there to cause as much trouble, and be a nuisance, as they can for the benefit of UK audiences ;D ;D ;)
Over on the Remainiac sites they are boiling over with outrage at the Brexit Party's little stunt. ;D
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Still all a red herring.
Some expressing their feelings by turning their backs, others wearing a slightly offensive slogan on their backs.
The point I am making is a group of unelected people have got new unelected leaders with their agenda running the EU for “us”. There is no democracy in that. Putting it simply where is the democracy in the agenda? Not once have we been asked to choose on a way forward for the EU.
I know politics in both the UK and Spain is not perfect but at least the parties have manifestoes which they should follow when elected. Should being the operative word.
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Christine Legarde is the perfect candidate to run the European central Bank. She was convicted of criminal negligence in a French financial corruption case three years ago. She should have served a few years behind bars, but she is so deeply imbedded in the EU establishment they were never going to allow her to be given anything more than a mild slap on the wrist. Shes as bent as a nine bob note.
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Still all a red herring.
Some expressing their feelings by turning their backs, others wearing a slightly offensive slogan on their backs.
The point I am making is a group of unelected people have got new unelected leaders with their agenda running the EU for “us”. There is no democracy in that. Putting it simply where is the democracy in the agenda? Not once have we been asked to choose on a way forward for the EU.
I know politics in both the UK and Spain is not perfect but at least the parties have manifestoes which they should follow when elected. Should being the operative word.
Why should we in the UK worry about that now as we are leaving. The Brexit Party is following its manifesto, to leave the EU! :D ;)
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Quite simply because from day one after the vote , I said he establishment will overturn the vote.
I still believe that now. I cannot see Hunt or Johnson doing anything different following May selling us out. Parliament isnt going to vote for leaving. Nothing has changed other than that awful May has gone.
My money is still on us remaining. Hence it is actually very important what is actually going on in the EU right now. Brexit party or Lib Dems MEP antics are just a freak side show.
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Quite simply because from day one after the vote , I said he establishment will overturn the vote.
I still believe that now. I cannot see Hunt or Johnson doing anything different following May selling us out. Parliament isnt going to vote for leaving. Nothing has changed other than that awful May has gone.
My money is still on us remaining. Hence it is actually very important what is actually going on in the EU right now. Brexit party or Lib Dems MEP antics are just a freak side show.
But that is the thing Varche, nothing on the face of it has changed really since the referendum, with everything still pointing towards a Brexit.
Now I was a remainer, but now.................let's face it the EU is going down, becoming worse for everyone in it, when it could have been so different, being a true assembly of European nations, not a federal dictatorship.
The fact that the Brexit Party have managed to have elected 29 MEP's, with 33% of the vote,when they represent nothing but "Leave", and has the other UK parties trailing badly in the numbers they have enjoyed, says a lot about how the British people are currently feeling. That is why Parliament is so polarised and fragmented across the main parties, as the MP's know the underlying belief of the majority of British people, especially when the EU has been so difficult and dictatorial during negotiations, is to leave as soon as possible. They are completely fed up now, and just want out. So do I now!
The Remainer MP's know that whatever they may want to do, they stand to be judged very badly if they now stand in the way of how the population feel.
It is a mess, and the Conservative leadership contest will not resolve that. A general election could, but we still have to reach an agreement with the EU to leave no matter who is in charge..................so, yes, we go around the Mulberry Bush again, again, again..................!!! ::) ::) ::) :(
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The Brexit party now also represent cancelling HS2 (so TB will be voting for them ;D), halving the foreign aid budget, cancelling the £39 billion payment to the EU, and spending the approx. £200 billion savings on regions outside London.
I think there may be a lot of votes in that. :)
Anyway, my ballot form arrived this morning and is back in the envelope ready to go in the post this evening. May God forgive me. ;D
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The Brexit party now also represent cancelling HS2 (so TB will be voting for them ;D), halving the foreign aid budget, cancelling the £39 billion payment to the EU, and spending the approx. £200 billion savings on regions outside London.
I think there may be a lot of votes in that. :)
Anyway, my ballot form arrived this morning and is back in the envelope ready to go in the post this evening. May God forgive me. ;D
I hope they supplied a SAE. :)
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We've staggered from one crap prime minister to another for years now, doesn't seem to make that much difference.
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Meanwhile over in Brussels among our new crop of Dear Leaders we have two who have convictions, one who lost a vote of no confidence in his last job and one who is presently under investigation for misappropriation of public funds! ::)
Yay! :D
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The Brexit party now also represent cancelling HS2 (so TB will be voting for them ;D), halving the foreign aid budget, cancelling the £39 billion payment to the EU, and spending the approx. £200 billion savings on regions outside London.
I think there may be a lot of votes in that. :)
Anyway, my ballot form arrived this morning and is back in the envelope ready to go in the post this evening. May God forgive me. ;D
Yes, all true! :y
Buffoon Boris is actually suggesting far more action than that, with a spend, spend, philosophy that even close supporters, and more of the media, are questioning; latest, 20,000 more police ( :y :y), but that is after he was part of the process to cut numbers by 21,000 just a few years back!! ::) ::) ::)
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The Brexit party now also represent cancelling HS2 (so TB will be voting for them ;D), halving the foreign aid budget, cancelling the £39 billion payment to the EU, and spending the approx. £200 billion savings on regions outside London.
I think there may be a lot of votes in that. :)
Anyway, my ballot form arrived this morning and is back in the envelope ready to go in the post this evening. May God forgive me. ;D
Yes, all true! :y
Buffoon Boris is actually suggesting far more action than that, with a spend, spend, philosophy that even close supporters, and more of the media, are questioning; latest, 20,000 more police ( :y :y), but that is after he was part of the process to cut numbers by 21,000 just a few years back!! ::) ::) ::)
He can't use the 'magic money tree' that the socialists are always banging on about because it doesn't really exist.
So he'll be shaking the 'real magic money tree' instead. ::) ::) ::) ::)
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.......I believe Jeremy Hunt also has his own 'magic money tree' :)
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.......I believe Jeremy Hunt also has his own 'magic money tree' :)
He got very spiky with Jeremy Whine the other day when Whine pointed out that he was the wealthiest member of the cabinet! :)
Said something like " So what? I didn't come here to indulge in your politics of envy! " :y
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Well, the judges have ruled that £350 million is acceptable as a representation of the gross amount paid to the EU ::)
That should give Mr Whine something to rant about tomorrow ;D
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Meanwhile over in Brussels among our new crop of Dear Leaders we have two who have convictions, one who lost a vote of no confidence in his last job and one who is presently under investigation for misappropriation of public funds! ::)
Yay! :D
Why on Gods earth would anyone want to stay in a union with that bunch of thieving shysters. It beggars belief. ::)
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Meanwhile over in Brussels among our new crop of Dear Leaders we have two who have convictions, one who lost a vote of no confidence in his last job and one who is presently under investigation for misappropriation of public funds! ::)
Yay! :D
Why on Gods earth would anyone want to stay in a union with that bunch of thieving shysters. It beggars belief. ::)
Well some lefty carrot munching Millenials in Lundun seem to think it would be a good idea ::)
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Anyone see Ann Widdecombes maiden speech today ?
Brilliant.
https://www.aol.co.uk/news/2019/07/04/ann-widdecombe-criticised-for-comparing-brexit-to-a-slaves-risi/?ncid=webmail
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Anyone see Ann Widdecombes maiden speech today ?
Brilliant.
https://www.aol.co.uk/news/2019/07/04/ann-widdecombe-criticised-for-comparing-brexit-to-a-slaves-risi/?ncid=webmail
Christ the Remainiacs still havn't calmed down after the back turning stunt and are still furiously sharing that photo of the Nazis in the Reichstag and copies of their angry emails! ;D
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She'll not be taking any shit from them then :D
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Europe is falling apart, which may seem like a good thing. But there will be consequences.
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Europe is falling apart, which may seem like a good thing. But there will be consequences.
I'm glad we left on 29th March Uncle Stemo while the going was good :)
Mrs builder tried to palm me off with salad for tea it being a warm day
NO Mrs Builder , that salad is from euro land ,
Chinese takeaway it is then :y
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Europe is falling apart, which may seem like a good thing. But there will be consequences.
I'm glad we left on 29th March Uncle Stemo while the going was good :)
Mrs builder tried to palm me off with salad for tea it being a warm day
NO Mrs Builder , that salad is from euro land ,
Chinese takeaway it is then :y
I bought another really bendy banana today, like a fickin horseshoe it was. There's loads of them about since we left. ;D
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Europe is falling apart, which may seem like a good thing. But there will be consequences.
Yes Verhofstadt will have to spend more of his time tending his grapevines on his estate in Tuscany. :y
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Europe is falling apart, which may seem like a good thing. But there will be consequences.
Yes Verhofstadt will have to spend more of his time tending his grapevines on his estate in Tuscany. :y
Hasn't that always been the way of things. They wreck lives all over the continent, then the rich walk away, even richer.
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Europe is falling apart, which may seem like a good thing. But there will be consequences.
I'm glad we left on 29th March Uncle Stemo while the going was good :)
Mrs builder tried to palm me off with salad for tea it being a warm day
NO Mrs Builder , that salad is from euro land ,
Chinese takeaway it is then :y
I bought another really bendy banana today, like a fickin horseshoe it was. There's loads of them about since we left. ;D
I bet it tasted better than them euro nanas too
the rest of the OOFers should just join us and leave , i'ts very liberating
once you leave, you can choose which EU rules to obey , as it should be :)
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Europe is falling apart, which may seem like a good thing. But there will be consequences.
I'm glad we left on 29th March Uncle Stemo while the going was good :)
Mrs builder tried to palm me off with salad for tea it being a warm day
NO Mrs Builder , that salad is from euro land ,
Chinese takeaway it is then :y
I bought another really bendy banana today, like a fickin horseshoe it was. There's loads of them about since we left. ;D
I bet it tasted better than them euro nanas too
the rest of the OOFers should just join us and leave , i'ts very liberating
once you leave, you can choose which EU rules to obey , as it should be :)
I'm not a quitter! :P
I'll stay in solidarity with the rest of the downtrodden, and will leave with rest of the nation. :y
At the point I decide that we are definitely not leaving then fick it, I'm off! :)
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And so we have heard again that Buffoon Boris as Foreign Secretary at the time, was kept well away from highly sensitive matters pertaining to national security by the intelligence services, and the Prime Minister who did not trust him! ::) ::)
So the Conservatives who can vote look as though they may choose a man who cannot be trusted with such issues, has been diplomatically 'slagged off' by people who have worked under him, and has been so often summarised as someone who constantly changes his mind, in the space of one day, tells lies frequently, and makes so many gaffs it is almost unbelievable, reckon he is THE one!! FFS!
I must stop typing before I go beyond boiling point and get far too political and vehement in my personal thoughts and say something I may regret..........................!!! :-X :-X
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It doesn't matter what we think, nor anyone except the Conservative party membership. They will decide (on Boris) then we will have a say.
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It doesn't matter what we think, nor anyone except the Conservative party membership. They will decide (on Boris) then we will have a say.
Yes, and about a thousand of them have been sent a second voting form by "mistake"! ::) ::)
But yes, if he is voted in I will vote accordingly to ensure he gets out! :D ;)
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And so we have heard again that Buffoon Boris as Foreign Secretary at the time, was kept well away from highly sensitive matters pertaining to national security by the intelligence services, and the Prime Minister who did not trust him! ::) ::)
This is a well timed intervention, just when the members are getting their ballot papers. ???
I'm sure there is intelligence that the Foreign Secretary isn't privy too, and I'm sure that there is intelligence that the Home Secretary, the Defence Secretary, the Health Secretary etc aren't privy too either. ;)
Obvious smear campaign. ::)