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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Martin_1962 on 23 August 2008, 22:19:10
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Well I am sure I have found out, quite simple really, I tried to watch a film - a Momentum studios one - now flung across the room as I could not get to the menu >:(, so put in a Warners film - Warners logo then menu - pressed select on play and straight into the film - ah luxury. :)
Now from what I have read is that the studios with lots of warning before you get to the film are pirated a lot more than ones which let you watch the film. :( :-?
I have ended up now with a few films along with ripped copies of the very same film - eg Sunshine, quite a good film :y, but I could not get past the rubbish into the menu >:(, the copy press menu and up it comes. :( 8-)
I never even got that far on the original. :(
As I do not like ripping off films and do collect them, so get very annoyed that I have to do this - so now I fully understand that the DVDs with loads of compulsary warnings and trailers are the most copied. :(
I still need to find email addresses for these companies, or should I write to them to complain. >:(
Hello Momentum - send me a copy I can watch or I'll sue you, or replace for a lot of people, with - download. :P
BTW this shite has made me change choice of film for the two last films I watched. >:(
Actually while I am at it time to be rude to Sony as well.
Why do BluRays on PS3s go green on SD TVs? >:(
And don't ask why I bought them (less locked than DVDs as well as better sound picture) I will get an HDTV sooner rather than later.
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Well I am sure I have found out, quite simple really, I tried to watch a film - a Momentum studios one - now flung across the room as I could not get to the menu >:(, so put in a Warners film - Warners logo then menu - pressed select on play and straight into the film - ah luxury. :)
Now from what I have read is that the studios with lots of warning before you get to the film are pirated a lot more than ones which let you watch the film. :( :-?
I have ended up now with a few films along with ripped copies of the very same film - eg Sunshine, quite a good film :y, but I could not get past the rubbish into the menu >:(, the copy press menu and up it comes. :( 8-)
I never even got that far on the original. :(
As I do not like ripping off films and do collect them, so get very annoyed that I have to do this - so now I fully understand that the DVDs with loads of compulsary warnings and trailers are the most copied. :(
I still need to find email addresses for these companies, or should I write to them to complain. >:(
Hello Momentum - send me a copy I can watch or I'll sue you, or replace for a lot of people, with - download. :P
BTW this shite has made me change choice of film for the two last films I watched. >:(
Actually while I am at it time to be rude to Sony as well.
Why do BluRays on PS3s go green on SD TVs? >:(
And don't ask why I bought them (less locked than DVDs as well as better sound picture) I will get an HDTV sooner rather than later.
Don't aim to close to the TV that KV32DX20 might make a big bang ;)
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Im getting a PS3 this weekend for watching Blue Rays on my HDTV, no probs there is there?
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Martin.
Is the problem with the OEM or have they been Pireted.?
Production company can only chase and hunt down the pirates if they are made aware of them.
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I sometimes have problems with disks that jump even though they are not scratched. If I rip them and copy it to a new disk it works but the irony here is that I breaking the law doing it! Dont we live a great free democracy huh?
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I sometimes have problems with disks that jump even though they are not scratched. If I rip them and copy it to a new disk it works but the irony here is that I breaking the law doing it! Dont we live a great free democracy huh?
I believe if you own the original you allowed too make a back up copy. :y
Not that id download films the quality of originals at a fraction of the cost. ;D
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I sometimes have problems with disks that jump even though they are not scratched. If I rip them and copy it to a new disk it works but the irony here is that I breaking the law doing it! Dont we live a great free democracy huh?
I believe if you own the original you allowed too make a back up copy. :y
Not that id download films the quality of originals at a fraction of the cost. ;D
Thats right for us in the UK, dunno if thats the same in Germay though.
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Im getting a PS3 this weekend for watching Blue Rays on my HDTV, no probs there is there?
Not with HDMI at all just Scart
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Martin.
Is the problem with the OEM or have they been Pireted.?
Production company can only chase and hunt down the pirates if they are made aware of them.
Brand new official DVDs from the likes of Fox or Momentum - they lock down all the controls so you cannot watch the film - copies of them play perfectly
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I sometimes have problems with disks that jump even though they are not scratched. If I rip them and copy it to a new disk it works but the irony here is that I breaking the law doing it! Dont we live a great free democracy huh?
I believe if you own the original you allowed too make a back up copy. :y
Not that id download films the quality of originals at a fraction of the cost. ;D
Thats right for us in the UK, dunno if thats the same in Germay though.
I just want to watch a film - listen to a good commentry not fight the DVD to the point I am ready to CBS it.
There are a few films I haven't watched due to lock downs
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I sometimes have problems with disks that jump even though they are not scratched. If I rip them and copy it to a new disk it works but the irony here is that I breaking the law doing it! Dont we live a great free democracy huh?
I believe if you own the original you allowed too make a back up copy. :y
Not that id download films the quality of originals at a fraction of the cost. ;D
Thats right for us in the UK, dunno if thats the same in Germay though.
It was the case in the UK but I think they changed it :(
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Im getting a PS3 this weekend for watching Blue Rays on my HDTV, no probs there is there?
Not with HDMI at all just Scart
Cheers mate, will make sure I get a HDMI cable with it
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Martin.
Is the problem with the OEM or have they been Pireted.?
Production company can only chase and hunt down the pirates if they are made aware of them.
Brand new official DVDs from the likes of Fox or Momentum - they lock down all the controls so you cannot watch the film - copies of them play perfectly
I have a phew discs embeded in the plaster board for that very reason, drives me up the fncking wall, i payed for the f@cking thing its my disc and they make me watch their adverts and warnings...and dont even talk about it auto starting as well. if it auto starts and goes straight to the menu great, thats what i want, get it q,ed up ready to play when we sit down with a nice meal and a bottle of wine and..... 10 mins of warnings and adverts...WARNKERS!!!! >:(
not sure if it is warners but seemed appropriate.
mate of myn downloads habitually and wants to bring round the latest blockbuster and watch it in divx on our tv, plays it from his phone or memory stick via ps3,but i dont want to watch it in divx! i want it in 1080 with 5.1 with my face 6 feet from the screen and the volume up full. :)
What is the point in spending an arm and a leg on hdtv then watching inferior quality films that look ten times worse than what you had on your old tube tv? well the only point for me is if there is a film that you are not sure you will enjoy and dont want to risk spending cash on then i might watch it, and tbh the quality aint to bad on our tv witch does a bloody good job of sorting out the divx blocky mess, and he does now get the odd 5.1 but i wont watch the big films on divx, it just ruins it for me. And before the righteous start up i dont download either,as its illegal, and pointless imho.
I want the disk on the shelf, i want the box and the cover and the bumph, but above all i want the quality of sound and hd experience that i paid for. The real irony of that is its the very people moaning about illegal downloads that are cocking it up for me by taking away control of my own disk. Thats what REALLY gets me cooking.
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Its all down to money at the end of the day, the film makers want as much as possible and full price for their DVD's. Joe public wants to watch a film as cheaply as possible. I have just bought Hot Fuzz from Tesco for £3, it was originally £12.99 or something. Perhaps if the genuine copies - hang on - how can a copy be genuine? were cheaper the pirated ones would be less attractive. It is the same with cigarettes, a collection of discarded cigarette packets picked up at a football ground after the match produced 60% foriegn no duty paid packets. Brown and Co were whingeing about the loss of revenue, perhaps if there were less UK duty the foriegn imports would stop.
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Warners have copywrite pages straight after the film - you can buy Warners with no worries.
I have cut back also due to waiting for a new TV.
Just bought them in sales. But If I pay £5 for the film, then rip it then burn a copy - I might as well download as it would be less effort.
Mind you downloading did help to get rid of HD-DVD, as HD-DVD rips would play on a PS3 perfectly, but for BluRays you purchased it, and since most HD disc players are PS3s not supporting the PS3 was a mistake.
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Virtually all 'big' studios now put on the 'you wouldn't steal a handbag, copying films is theft' trailer on now. Disney used to be buggers with trailers for other films.
Part of the DVD spec allows a 'block' on controls during selected chapters, and they make use of this, esp for the 'piracy is theft' trailer.
The problem is, the film companies really need to drum this home, as a significant proportion of broadband users seem to think it is their god-given right to download films for free. Yes, they need to catch up and come up with a workable solution to distribution, and DRM.
I know you sell you own DVDs on Ebay. How would you feel if your sales dropped, and it was on every torrent tracker out there? Or I know you develop software, how would you like it if all your clients got it off piratebay, rather than pay you, causing the company to go under? There needs to be a (workable) solution found.
As to skipping these 'blocked' sections, its possible if you had a half decent player - which very obviously rules out athe Sony gayStation 3 ;)
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Virtually all 'big' studios now put on the 'you wouldn't steal a handbag, copying films is theft' trailer on now. Disney used to be buggers with trailers for other films.
Part of the DVD spec allows a 'block' on controls during selected chapters, and they make use of this, esp for the 'piracy is theft' trailer.
The problem is, the film companies really need to drum this home, as a significant proportion of broadband users seem to think it is their god-given right to download films for free. Yes, they need to catch up and come up with a workable solution to distribution, and DRM.
I know you sell you own DVDs on Ebay. How would you feel if your sales dropped, and it was on every torrent tracker out there? Or I know you develop software, how would you like it if all your clients got it off piratebay, rather than pay you, causing the company to go under? There needs to be a (workable) solution found.
As to skipping these 'blocked' sections, its possible if you had a half decent player - which very obviously rules out athe Sony gayStation 3 ;)
I have run a few DVD players and they all get stuck unless they are modified (which costs money).
Our software has plenty of things to stop copy write infringement but doesn't stop the user using it to tell them.
As before I am sure the piracy is theft (actually it is copywrite infringement) causes more copying than it warns against.
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Virtually all 'big' studios now put on the 'you wouldn't steal a handbag, copying films is theft' trailer on now. Disney used to be buggers with trailers for other films.
Part of the DVD spec allows a 'block' on controls during selected chapters, and they make use of this, esp for the 'piracy is theft' trailer.
The problem is, the film companies really need to drum this home, as a significant proportion of broadband users seem to think it is their god-given right to download films for free. Yes, they need to catch up and come up with a workable solution to distribution, and DRM.
I know you sell you own DVDs on Ebay. How would you feel if your sales dropped, and it was on every torrent tracker out there? Or I know you develop software, how would you like it if all your clients got it off piratebay, rather than pay you, causing the company to go under? There needs to be a (workable) solution found.
As to skipping these 'blocked' sections, its possible if you had a half decent player - which very obviously rules out athe Sony gayStation 3 ;)
I have run a few DVD players and they all get stuck unless they are modified (which costs money).
Our software has plenty of things to stop copy write infringement but doesn't stop the user using it to tell them.
As before I am sure the piracy is theft (actually it is copywrite infringement) causes more copying than it warns against.
My DVD player obeys all instructions I give it, and at any point. And its not modified ;) - but as it runs Windows, its what you would expect.
wrt to your software, would your company be pleased if its protection system(s) were bypassed, and publically available?
As to whether it causes more copying, I'd disagree. I suspect that a reasonable proportion of users watching downloaded films either do not think its illegal, or think its victimless. Hence a 60s clip to remind people probably helps no end. Additionally, it ensures that people cannot use ignorance as an excuse to copy/download/whatever.
I'd also guess that most film lovers go to the flicks at least every 4-8weeks (except those that think its OK to download films), and have to sit through the same 60s 'piracy is theft' trailer...
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Virtually all 'big' studios now put on the 'you wouldn't steal a handbag, copying films is theft' trailer on now. Disney used to be buggers with trailers for other films.
Part of the DVD spec allows a 'block' on controls during selected chapters, and they make use of this, esp for the 'piracy is theft' trailer.
The problem is, the film companies really need to drum this home, as a significant proportion of broadband users seem to think it is their god-given right to download films for free. Yes, they need to catch up and come up with a workable solution to distribution, and DRM.
I know you sell you own DVDs on Ebay. How would you feel if your sales dropped, and it was on every torrent tracker out there? Or I know you develop software, how would you like it if all your clients got it off piratebay, rather than pay you, causing the company to go under? There needs to be a (workable) solution found.
As to skipping these 'blocked' sections, its possible if you had a half decent player - which very obviously rules out athe Sony gayStation 3 ;)
No Red Ring of Death on a gay station...
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Virtually all 'big' studios now put on the 'you wouldn't steal a handbag, copying films is theft' trailer on now. Disney used to be buggers with trailers for other films.
Part of the DVD spec allows a 'block' on controls during selected chapters, and they make use of this, esp for the 'piracy is theft' trailer.
The problem is, the film companies really need to drum this home, as a significant proportion of broadband users seem to think it is their god-given right to download films for free. Yes, they need to catch up and come up with a workable solution to distribution, and DRM.
I know you sell you own DVDs on Ebay. How would you feel if your sales dropped, and it was on every torrent tracker out there? Or I know you develop software, how would you like it if all your clients got it off piratebay, rather than pay you, causing the company to go under? There needs to be a (workable) solution found.
As to skipping these 'blocked' sections, its possible if you had a half decent player - which very obviously rules out athe Sony gayStation 3 ;)
No Red Ring of Death on a gay station...
No red ring of death on my Media Center either ;)
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Virtually all 'big' studios now put on the 'you wouldn't steal a handbag, copying films is theft' trailer on now. Disney used to be buggers with trailers for other films.
Part of the DVD spec allows a 'block' on controls during selected chapters, and they make use of this, esp for the 'piracy is theft' trailer.
The problem is, the film companies really need to drum this home, as a significant proportion of broadband users seem to think it is their god-given right to download films for free. Yes, they need to catch up and come up with a workable solution to distribution, and DRM.
I know you sell you own DVDs on Ebay. How would you feel if your sales dropped, and it was on every torrent tracker out there? Or I know you develop software, how would you like it if all your clients got it off piratebay, rather than pay you, causing the company to go under? There needs to be a (workable) solution found.
As to skipping these 'blocked' sections, its possible if you had a half decent player - which very obviously rules out athe Sony gayStation 3 ;)
No Red Ring of Death on a gay station...
No red ring of death on my Media Center either ;)
dont have to spend £80 to add wireless or £120 for a soon to be out of date HD format... on a gay station.
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Virtually all 'big' studios now put on the 'you wouldn't steal a handbag, copying films is theft' trailer on now. Disney used to be buggers with trailers for other films.
Part of the DVD spec allows a 'block' on controls during selected chapters, and they make use of this, esp for the 'piracy is theft' trailer.
The problem is, the film companies really need to drum this home, as a significant proportion of broadband users seem to think it is their god-given right to download films for free. Yes, they need to catch up and come up with a workable solution to distribution, and DRM.
I know you sell you own DVDs on Ebay. How would you feel if your sales dropped, and it was on every torrent tracker out there? Or I know you develop software, how would you like it if all your clients got it off piratebay, rather than pay you, causing the company to go under? There needs to be a (workable) solution found.
As to skipping these 'blocked' sections, its possible if you had a half decent player - which very obviously rules out athe Sony gayStation 3 ;)
I have run a few DVD players and they all get stuck unless they are modified (which costs money).
Our software has plenty of things to stop copy write infringement but doesn't stop the user using it to tell them.
As before I am sure the piracy is theft (actually it is copywrite infringement) causes more copying than it warns against.
My DVD player obeys all instructions I give it, and at any point. And its not modified ;) - but as it runs Windows, its what you would expect.
wrt to your software, would your company be pleased if its protection system(s) were bypassed, and publically available?
As to whether it causes more copying, I'd disagree. I suspect that a reasonable proportion of users watching downloaded films either do not think its illegal, or think its victimless. Hence a 60s clip to remind people probably helps no end. Additionally, it ensures that people cannot use ignorance as an excuse to copy/download/whatever.
I'd also guess that most film lovers go to the flicks at least every 4-8weeks (except those that think its OK to download films), and have to sit through the same 60s 'piracy is theft' trailer...
I never do cinema - too expensive and too many knobs in them.
I usually buy them when they are discounted, and I reckon a lot of people didn't even know you could get pirated DVDs, I have no idea where I would get them from.
I know about downloading but I do not do films.
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If me and the wife go the the flix, we go to the ones at the Lowry Centre. Each seat is £18 but you get recliners, waitress service and at that price no knob heads ;)
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Virtually all 'big' studios now put on the 'you wouldn't steal a handbag, copying films is theft' trailer on now. Disney used to be buggers with trailers for other films.
Part of the DVD spec allows a 'block' on controls during selected chapters, and they make use of this, esp for the 'piracy is theft' trailer.
The problem is, the film companies really need to drum this home, as a significant proportion of broadband users seem to think it is their god-given right to download films for free. Yes, they need to catch up and come up with a workable solution to distribution, and DRM.
I know you sell you own DVDs on Ebay. How would you feel if your sales dropped, and it was on every torrent tracker out there? Or I know you develop software, how would you like it if all your clients got it off piratebay, rather than pay you, causing the company to go under? There needs to be a (workable) solution found.
As to skipping these 'blocked' sections, its possible if you had a half decent player - which very obviously rules out athe Sony gayStation 3 ;)
Sorry TB but I think you are wrong.
The dynamics of the marketplace have changed considerably. The music business is making an effort to adapt. The software and film indstry is just shouting, louder and louder, about how it used to be and how it SHOULD be.
If I was selling my software on ebay and having it nicked, I would be looking quite hard at other ways to make money from it. Not loading it with copy protection or firing money at lawyers. That way keeps you one step behind and costs you an arm and a leg in a way that adds no value for anyone.
Thre are no simple answers here, but the music business will invent the next profitable system the soonest. Meanwhile, the software (and probably film) industries will continue to pour it's effort in to making victims out of Mr and Mrs average and actually get nowhere fast because they are not adapting. While the music business will start getting healthy levels of cash in the door again.
The cheese has moved. (http://www.whsmith.co.uk/CatalogAndSearch/ProductDetails-Who+Moved+My+Cheese+-9780091816971.html)
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I would have thought it would have been proven by now that crippling your product does nothing to prevent piracy. It just provides a greater incentive for people to crack your protection, after which it's a free-for-all anyway.
The world has moved on and the industry of making money from media hasn't. I don't know what the solution is but the industry should have ruddy well found it by now.
Kevin
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last time i went to the cinema, iron man, i thought the quality of the picture was absalute crap, (picture quality wasnt very god either) scratches and hikies and blobs all over the place. And yes there is always at least one knob in the house.
Why dont we get warnings on cd's ? Hmm? Im with Kevin myself. Apple store for HD films, needs to be coming soon if you ask me, no doubt impossiblle at the moment with the useless level of band width in this country. 1,150 meg band width in my street, rubbish. Sorry, Gay...
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Bottom line is they are too greedy ---- half the price will probably result in more than twice the sales ..... lower profit per unit resulting in higher unit turnover .........
Simplistic -- but then, I have a simple mind :-/
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Bottom line is they are too greedy ---- half the price will probably result in more than twice the sales ..... lower profit per unit resulting in higher unit turnover .........
Simplistic -- but then, I have a simple mind :-/
That's why I buy in sales.
And why Momentum & Fox are on my gay list >:(
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Virtually all 'big' studios now put on the 'you wouldn't steal a handbag, copying films is theft' trailer on now. Disney used to be buggers with trailers for other films.
Part of the DVD spec allows a 'block' on controls during selected chapters, and they make use of this, esp for the 'piracy is theft' trailer.
The problem is, the film companies really need to drum this home, as a significant proportion of broadband users seem to think it is their god-given right to download films for free. Yes, they need to catch up and come up with a workable solution to distribution, and DRM.
I know you sell you own DVDs on Ebay. How would you feel if your sales dropped, and it was on every torrent tracker out there? Or I know you develop software, how would you like it if all your clients got it off piratebay, rather than pay you, causing the company to go under? There needs to be a (workable) solution found.
As to skipping these 'blocked' sections, its possible if you had a half decent player - which very obviously rules out athe Sony gayStation 3 ;)
No Red Ring of Death on a gay station...
No red ring of death on my Media Center either ;)
dont have to spend £80 to add wireless or £120 for a soon to be out of date HD format... on a gay station.
As I don't need to on my Media Center ;)
And, for the XBOX, HD drive can be picked up brand new for around£20 as companies are losing stock. And the wireless is around £40, and the console is £150 cheaper than the equivilent gayStation ;)
gayStation potential buyers beware, as there is a rumour it will be short lived due to poor sales, and even poorer profit, and gayStation IV originally planned for 2010 may be dragged forward a year.
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Bottom line is they are too greedy ---- half the price will probably result in more than twice the sales ..... lower profit per unit resulting in higher unit turnover .........
Simplistic -- but then, I have a simple mind :-/
Doesn't work, certainly in this country.
Earlier this decade, DVDs were £20 a pop, now they average about £12. The proportion of illegal duplication has gone up, despite prices going down.
There is a mentaility in this country, because you can do it easily, that makes it OK to copy or download, hence all the uproar a couple of years ago about ISP traffic shaping, FUP/AUPs, and ISP assisted p2p discovery.
I agree the current 'high street' distribution method will increase costs, as you have physical costs, packaging, distribution, and retails costs. The likes of Play/Amazon should be much cheaper than they are, they are the greedy ones. They buy direct, pay lower tax, and send direct.
Some kind of electronic direct distribution would half the costs, but it would obviously have to be heavily DRM'd, which always gets people's hackles up. It would also be another nail in the coffin of the High Street - sadly how many High Streets now have unique independent shops, rather than the usual chains that every other town has?
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Some kind of electronic direct distribution would half the costs, but it would obviously have to be heavily DRM'd, which always gets people's hackles up. It would also be another nail in the coffin of the High Street - sadly how many High Streets now have unique independent shops, rather than the usual chains that every other town has?
This is the problem I have. I buy DVDs and CDs because I want to build up a collection. There is value (perhaps 12 quid's worth, so the price seems reasonable) associated with having a nicely packaged CD / DVD, relatively free of restrictions, on a shelf, that I can play whenever I feel like it.
A file on my PC, that is inferior in quality in the first place, will get lost if my hard disk dies, that probably won't play again without loads of hassle if I upgrade my PC due to the DRM cr@p, which locks me in to having a Micro$oft OS. One that I have already paid via my ISP for the delivery mechanism to my door, can't play in my car, on a portable player or take round to my mates and watch (not without untold hassle, at any rate) is totally worthless IMHO, so you won't find me paying for downloads - at least not until the price is down to pennies per album / film where it should be.
Downloading is a convenient format, however, if you want to try an album or DVD cheaply and in low quality when it's not convenient to go down to the shops and buy it. ERGO, illegal downloading exists. If the media companies recognised that their downloads simply aren't worth as much as the pigs are trying to charge they might have more success, and they'd be cheap enough not to go to the hassle and risk of illegally downloading so they wouldn't have to mess about with DRM.
Kevin
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Valid points Kevin Wood, but I suspect films will never come to music prices, if they ever allowed downloads:
1) A feature film is often $50m+ for the top films now, as opposed to a few 10s of thousands of £ for an album
2) The delivery infrastructure will be considerable more expensive, as 7G file storage, plus 7G transit per download bandwidth will hit hard.
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1) A feature film is often $50m+ for the top films now, as opposed to a few 10s of thousands of £ for an album
2) The delivery infrastructure will be considerable more expensive, as 7G file storage, plus 7G transit per download bandwidth will hit hard.
True. It's a problem, I agree. To the industry, the cost is in producing the material in the first place but to the consumer the value is in what they end up with in their hand / on their PC. Somehow they need to make their money but they won't do it by alienating the customers who are prepared to pay. They need to make the "pay" route a no-brainer so people don't bother with the illegal route.
I think a lot could be done to improve their products at the premium end. Cinema picture quality is looking rubbish these days in comparison to HD, as mentioned, and I',m sure that could be addressed to justify charging £7 plus a seat. DVDs have always had copyright warnings on the packaging, it doesn't need to be rammed down people's faces every time they sit down to watch it. These are the people who've already paid, after all. Preaching to the converted.
As to delivery, we would have been saying delivering MP3s over the internet was not viable 10-15 years ago. It became viable and the music industry were not ready for it. Will they make the same mistake twice?
Kevin
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1) A feature film is often $50m+ for the top films now, as opposed to a few 10s of thousands of £ for an album
2) The delivery infrastructure will be considerable more expensive, as 7G file storage, plus 7G transit per download bandwidth will hit hard.
True. It's a problem, I agree. To the industry, the cost is in producing the material in the first place but to the consumer the value is in what they end up with in their hand / on their PC. Somehow they need to make their money but they won't do it by alienating the customers who are prepared to pay. They need to make the "pay" route a no-brainer so people don't bother with the illegal route.
I think a lot could be done to improve their products at the premium end. Cinema picture quality is looking rubbish these days in comparison to HD, as mentioned, and I',m sure that could be addressed to justify charging £7 plus a seat. DVDs have always had copyright warnings on the packaging, it doesn't need to be rammed down people's faces every time they sit down to watch it. These are the people who've already paid, after all. Preaching to the converted.
As to delivery, we would have been saying delivering MP3s over the internet was not viable 10-15 years ago. It became viable and the music industry were not ready for it. Will they make the same mistake twice?
Kevin
I think the 'piracy is theft' bit is probably on there to stop people borrowing a friends DVD and copying it - ie more a reminder than a deterent, if that makes sense.
As to downloaded films to the masses, as well as the film companies not being ready (or found financially viable delivery mech), I don't think the public are ready.
Take someone like my Mum for instance - she has relatively modern TV setup, with a good quality DVD player and a OK-ish Pace twin tuner Freeview recorder. Nothing that will play content from the Internet without a lot of difficulty (for a 72 year old, she is bloody good with technology, but burning MPEG4 to a DVD may be a bit too difficult for her). OK, she could plug her PC into TV via S-video, but the quality would be appalling. Also, she wouldn't want an ugly box next to the telly (hence why I cannot change the case on my MCE, and am struggling to find a suitable motherboard).
So the only people who would be willing to download films legally are the ones savvy enough to know how/where to download illegally, and a fair proportion of these people believe there is no harm in not paying for stuff that can be acquired for free.