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Title: Omega A 3.0 24v loses power as 4200RPM :'(
Post by: Evo500omega on 22 July 2019, 10:52:19

Hello dear friends :D ,
I was looking for some guidance  :D.
I have an  Omega A 3.0 24v,and after 4200RPM loses power :'( ... I suspect the Dual Ram system ... I checked for pipes and they look OK ...
Is there any system schematics or have you ever had a similar problem?
Thank you  ;D :D
Title: Re: Omega A 3.0 24v loses power as 4200RPM :'(
Post by: Raeturbo on 22 July 2019, 11:03:19
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90513.msg1155347#msg1155347
Title: Re: Omega A 3.0 24v loses power as 4200RPM :'(
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 22 July 2019, 11:05:27
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90513.msg1155347#msg1155347
An interesting read, but does the straight six multiram work the same way?
Title: Re: Omega A 3.0 24v loses power as 4200RPM :'(
Post by: Raeturbo on 22 July 2019, 11:07:17
Not quite like the dual ram on the Carlton/Senator 24v as there’s two, it’s called multi ram on these engines, the link should put you right👍 ^^^^
Title: Re: Omega A 3.0 24v loses power as 4200RPM :'(
Post by: Raeturbo on 22 July 2019, 11:08:38
Not for you Doc, you’ll know.
Title: Re: Omega A 3.0 24v loses power as 4200RPM :'(
Post by: Raeturbo on 22 July 2019, 11:11:20
It’s a lot easier to check on the straight 6 as you can rev it under the bonnet whilst watching it open
Title: Re: Omega A 3.0 24v loses power as 4200RPM :'(
Post by: Keith ABS on 22 July 2019, 11:29:18
 Sounds as though it could be the vacuum sphere for the dual ram.
They are prone to leaking
Title: Re: Omega A 3.0 24v loses power as 4200RPM :'(
Post by: Raeturbo on 22 July 2019, 12:50:05
Could be, check you have a good vacuum arriving at the sphere if so then the diaphragm inside is knackered or the shaft is seized either way you'll need a new one. You could improvise I used a vacuum capsule for my rear multiram and it works fine.
Title: Re: Omega A 3.0 24v loses power as 4200RPM :'(
Post by: dave the builder on 22 July 2019, 15:24:03
IIRC people used one way aquarium airline valves to solve this vacuum loss  :-\
Title: Re: Omega A 3.0 24v loses power as 4200RPM :'(
Post by: MonzaGSE on 22 July 2019, 17:16:52
On the straight six the dual ram valve should open about 4000 rpm. Easy to check if it works. Just rev the engine from under the bonnet. Should also be obvious when driving. When the car passes 4000 rpm and the valve opens it will pull noticeable better and the engine sound changes to a more «throaty/rougher» sound. Much more noticeable than on the more sophisticated multiram setup on the v6. At least that was the case on the 2,6 straight six Omega A i once owned. (same intake/dual ram setup as the 3,0 24v.)
Title: Re: Omega A 3.0 24v loses power as 4200RPM :'(
Post by: Raeturbo on 22 July 2019, 17:23:08
Put a pipe on the nipple (not yours) and suck hard you will see the rod move if it’s working properly.     Oohh missus.. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Omega A 3.0 24v loses power as 4200RPM :'(
Post by: Evo500omega on 24 July 2019, 10:07:27
Thaaanks to all, but dual ram is ok.... I rev and I've seen it Open.... tha vacumm pipes are ok .
It starts with a good torque but after the Dual-ram opens it seems to lose strength and can't rev up to 6000... looks like it's clogged....
Any Ideia or a common problem in these engines  :(

Thanks again friends
:D
Title: Re: Omega A 3.0 24v loses power as 4200RPM :'(
Post by: Raeturbo on 24 July 2019, 13:05:23
Fuel filter partially blocked?
Title: Re: Omega A 3.0 24v loses power as 4200RPM :'(
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 24 July 2019, 13:05:50
Chain stretch at full load?
Title: Re: Omega A 3.0 24v loses power as 4200RPM :'(
Post by: Evo500omega on 24 July 2019, 13:28:41
yesterday I replace fuel filter,fuel piping, air filter and spark plugs.... clean intake manifold...
:( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Omega A 3.0 24v loses power as 4200RPM :'(
Post by: Evo500omega on 25 July 2019, 08:43:06
can be a clogged cat ?

anyone had problems of this kind ?! thank you dear friends: D
 :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Omega A 3.0 24v loses power as 4200RPM :'(
Post by: Raeturbo on 25 July 2019, 10:08:32
Try disconnecting the exhaust before the cat and see if it’s any better
Title: Re: Omega A 3.0 24v loses power as 4200RPM :'(
Post by: Keith ABS on 25 July 2019, 15:28:29
 Be a nice loud noise ;) :y
Title: Re: Omega A 3.0 24v loses power as 4200RPM :'(
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 25 July 2019, 20:24:52
It is. I drove mine a few miles without exhausts and it sounded lovely.  :)
Title: Re: Omega A 3.0 24v loses power as 4200RPM :'(
Post by: Raeturbo on 25 July 2019, 21:09:32
Diagnosis is sometimes a noisy process  ;D
Title: Re: Omega A 3.0 24v loses power as 4200RPM :'(
Post by: Evo500omega on 26 July 2019, 09:01:33

I had already thought of doing that. if it's the clogged CATs ... I'll sort it out the old way  :D ;D

 ::)

Thanks
Title: Re: Omega A 3.0 24v loses power as 4200RPM :'(
Post by: Evo500omega on 23 August 2019, 09:18:43
Already found out !!!
it was  clogged cats!!!  >:( >:(

I love the sound of a monster!!!! without cats  ;D ;D

I now need to make a complete exhaust system.  Do you know if the rear end Mufler of the Omega B 3.0V6 fits in Omega A 3.0 24v ??


I leave a short video of my baby without cats   :D :D :D 8)    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoYvweS9nXI

Thanks to all mates!!!



Title: Re: Omega A 3.0 24v loses power as 4200RPM :'(
Post by: Andy B on 23 August 2019, 10:32:42
....

I leave a short video of my baby without cats   :D :D :D 8)    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoYvweS9nXI

Thanks to all mates!!!

 :y :y :y ;D ;D
Title: Re: Omega A 3.0 24v loses power as 4200RPM :'(
Post by: Raeturbo on 23 August 2019, 10:54:40
That brings back memories :-[ I miss mine, good timing pulling off the same time as that plane ;D
Title: Re: Omega A 3.0 24v loses power as 4200RPM :'(
Post by: Evo500omega on 23 August 2019, 11:00:48
haha indeed!!!  ;D
but even at the same time of the plane the neighbors all came to the window  :o ;D ;D


I think the new tires won't last long.....
 8)