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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: 9jdm on 20 September 2019, 07:45:02
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Hi folks urgent advice needed.
Had poor starting and now the engine has cut out and won’t start. Scanner displayed with all the usual dash lights. Suspect it is crank sensor from other posts. Do we agree. Now I understand there are two types. Is this the case on the face lift 2.6. OR was that only the earlier 2.5
Thanks
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Should only be one choice for the 2.6...
But...
ONLY BUY A GENUINE SENSOR FROM A GENUINE VAUXHALL DEALER THAT YOU GENUINELY WALK IN TO. :y
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Say again Doc ..... ::)
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Update. Went to car this morning and yep it started. So can anyone explain how this is intermittent. Does something reset itself.
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Update. Went to car this morning and yep it started. So can anyone explain how this is intermittent. Does something reset itself.
It's usually heat that causes them to fail. Car stops, you wait for recovery, by the time recovery arrives the crank sensor has cooled down & so starts first time when the recovery driver tries. ;D
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Crank sensor failure on the V6 fall into 2 categories.
1) It simply wont start
or
2) Starts and runs fine, but as it warms up, the engine cuts suddenly and wont restart until its cooled a little
In both cases, sometimes, not always, you get early warning signs of a flicker of the EML, but its never brought on properly, or the car stutters at low revs.
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When mine started to fail the rpm meter became nervous when idling. Sometimes engine stopped, and after a while I could start again and contine driving. Does rpm signal come from that sensor?
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And it must be a GM sensor bought from a bricks and mortar dealer. Not a "genuine Bosch" from ebay, or mail order from a non GM dealer... ...the ebay route is just silly, and mail order from non dealers is risky.
Only a genuine GM part will do.
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When mine started to fail the rpm meter became nervous when idling. Sometimes engine stopped, and after a while I could start again and contine driving. Does rpm signal come from that sensor?
Not directly. It comes from the engine ECU. Obviously the engine ECU on the Motronic units fitted to V6 Omegas is utterly reliant on crank sensor.
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Many thanks folks. Ordered one today from a real dealer. Just got to wait patiently for it to come all the way from the motherland.
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bitte , ze Fatherland , Dankeschön :P :D ;D
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I had the same problem on 2, 2.6 Meegas. Rough as a badger's then wouldn't start. Once the engine cooled, it would start no problem. Only buy a genuine replacement, the Euro Car Prats copy didn't line up with the fixing bolt position.
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I had the same problem on 2, 2.6 Meegas. Rough as a badger's then wouldn't start. Once the engine cooled, it would start no problem. Only buy a genuine replacement, the Euro Car Prats copy didn't line up with the fixing bolt position.
And most likely would work, or at best, would work briefly.
Same goes for places like Autovaux and similar, who claim its an OE part when its not.
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Not wanting to tempt fate, but I bought a crank sensor from ebay 2 1/2 years ago (kindly fitted by Albs) for £11.80 delivered and it is still going strong!
TB, if you ever want me to buy anything on your behalf, just let me know..... ;D
Ron
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Not wanting to tempt fate, but I bought a crank sensor from ebay 2 1/2 years ago (kindly fitted by Albs) for £11.80 delivered and it is still going strong!
TB, if you ever want me to buy anything on your behalf, just let me know..... ;D
Ron
You are the extreme minority.
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Not wanting to tempt fate, but I bought a crank sensor from ebay 2 1/2 years ago (kindly fitted by Albs) for £11.80 delivered and it is still going strong!
TB, if you ever want me to buy anything on your behalf, just let me know..... ;D
Ron
You are the extreme minority.
on this forum. I wonder how many thousands of Omegas ran perfectly reliably with pattern crank sensors? Smart advice is to always fit a genuine dealer supplied crank sensor whenever there's an issue on any marque, but it's frequently just an aging part that's the problem.
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Not wanting to tempt fate, but I bought a crank sensor from ebay 2 1/2 years ago (kindly fitted by Albs) for £11.80 delivered and it is still going strong!
TB, if you ever want me to buy anything on your behalf, just let me know..... ;D
Ron
You are the extreme minority.
on this forum. I wonder how many thousands of Omegas ran perfectly reliably with pattern crank sensors? Smart advice is to always fit a genuine dealer supplied crank sensor whenever there's an issue on any marque, but it's frequently just an aging part that's the problem.
I wonder. I bought a sensor off e-bay for £30. It ran for a year, then advice from this forum persuaded me to fit a genuine Vx sensor. I did so, and it failed within a month. I replaced the e-bay sensor, and it worked fine till I scrapped the car.
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Not wanting to tempt fate, but I bought a crank sensor from ebay 2 1/2 years ago (kindly fitted by Albs) for £11.80 delivered and it is still going strong!
TB, if you ever want me to buy anything on your behalf, just let me know..... ;D
Ron
You are the extreme minority.
on this forum. I wonder how many thousands of Omegas ran perfectly reliably with pattern crank sensors? Smart advice is to always fit a genuine dealer supplied crank sensor whenever there's an issue on any marque, but it's frequently just an aging part that's the problem.
I wonder. I bought a sensor off e-bay for £30. It ran for a year, then advice from this forum persuaded me to fit a genuine Vx sensor. I did so, and it failed within a month. I replaced the e-bay sensor, and it worked fine till I scrapped the car.
too narrow a focus makes the 'problem' look bigger than it is.
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Not wanting to tempt fate, but I bought a crank sensor from ebay 2 1/2 years ago (kindly fitted by Albs) for £11.80 delivered and it is still going strong!
TB, if you ever want me to buy anything on your behalf, just let me know..... ;D
Ron
You are the extreme minority.
on this forum. I wonder how many thousands of Omegas ran perfectly reliably with pattern crank sensors? Smart advice is to always fit a genuine dealer supplied crank sensor whenever there's an issue on any marque, but it's frequently just an aging part that's the problem.
I wonder. I bought a sensor off e-bay for £30. It ran for a year, then advice from this forum persuaded me to fit a genuine Vx sensor. I did so, and it failed within a month. I replaced the e-bay sensor, and it worked fine till I scrapped the car.
too narrow a focus makes the 'problem' look bigger than it is.
as with many things, there are good aftermarket parts and garbage
I've watched OEM vs cheap aftermarket sensors scoped on youtube showing considerable difference in performance ,take into account fuel cost ,a cheap sensor may cost more long term
but OEM sensors fail too
luck of the draw perhaps :-\
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Not wanting to tempt fate, but I bought a crank sensor from ebay 2 1/2 years ago (kindly fitted by Albs) for £11.80 delivered and it is still going strong!
TB, if you ever want me to buy anything on your behalf, just let me know..... ;D
Ron
You are the extreme minority.
on this forum. I wonder how many thousands of Omegas ran perfectly reliably with pattern crank sensors? Smart advice is to always fit a genuine dealer supplied crank sensor whenever there's an issue on any marque, but it's frequently just an aging part that's the problem.
It came about when members where changing a sensor for a cheap one (to rightly save a few quid), only for it to never work, or last a few weeks.
Stick a scope on one, you will see a huge difference between a good on and a cheap one.