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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: Varche on 24 September 2019, 13:21:45
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Just wondered how widespread car, van or motorcycle etc theft is among forum members?
Thinking back for me it is three. A Cooper S , a Capri and a Carlton CDX.
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My MKIII Cortina years ago. I was away at sea at the time so it was dealt will by SWMBO & a mate. They nicked both headlamps & the battery .... ??? but the car was recovered.
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My first Granada. The shit bag who stole barely got a mile in it before stuffing it. He clearly couldn't drive for shit, as a few months later, killed himself and a couple of mates when he stole his Mum's Cavalier Sri :-X
Did get it back. Eventually. Learnt quite a lot about insurance companies from that experience >:(
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I don't think I've ever owned a car worth stealing! :-\ ;D
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My MKIII Cortina years ago. I was away at sea at the time so it was dealt will by SWMBO & a mate. They nicked both headlamps & the battery .... ??? but the car was recovered.
SWMBO and a mate nicked your headlamps and battery? Bastards. ;D
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I'm ashamed to admit (though not as ashamed as the thief should be) that someone relieved me of my Austin maxi. Boy was I glad that never got recovered ;D
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My 1991 3-door escort estate (1.3 popular) was stolen from outside a pub when I was about 19.
Back then I didn't realise you could operate any ford-made lock using only an old spoon. ::)
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My MKIII Cortina years ago. I was away at sea at the time so it was dealt will by SWMBO & a mate. They nicked both headlamps & the battery .... ??? but the car was recovered.
SWMBO and a mate nicked your headlamps and battery? Bastards. ;D
I thought that as I pressed send ..... ;D ;D ;D ;D
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never had a complete car stolen
wheels twice and a radio
until the omega I always fitted a steering lock , it won't fit on the omega wheel though
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Eldest daughter had her 2018 Ford Focus stolen from her driveway last week.
Scum managed to pry her front door open whilst her and husband and grandson were in bed asleep.Took her handbag from hallway table with car keys in and drove off in car .
Just to add insult to injury yesterday she received a speeding fine/summons through the post for the morning car was stolen going through a fixed 30mph camera at over 50mph.
Police not interested and insurance have offered her £2k less than they spent on car only 8 weeks ago and are hitting her with £400 excess.
Life sucks sometimes ah
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never had a complete car stolen
wheels twice and a radio
until the omega I always fitted a steering lock , it won't fit on the omega wheel though
Believe me, you're safe :)
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never had a complete car stolen
wheels twice and a radio
until the omega I always fitted a steering lock , it won't fit on the omega wheel though
Believe me, you're safe :)
;D :D
thanks mate :y
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Eldest daughter had her 2018 Ford Focus stolen from her driveway last week.
Scum managed to pry her front door open whilst her and husband and grandson were in bed asleep.Took her handbag from hallway table with car keys in and drove off in car .
Just to add insult to injury yesterday she received a speeding fine/summons through the post for the morning car was stolen going through a fixed 30mph camera at over 50mph.
Police not interested and insurance have offered her £2k less than they spent on car only 8 weeks ago and are hitting her with £400 excess.
Life sucks sometimes ah
you don't have to accept the insurers first offer
you can send them similar retail car details and say match what I had ,condition and mile and spec
unless they overpaid :-\
there is usually £1000 difference between cap clear and retail
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No, never ;)
But I did have a back window broken by thieves taking the radio from my then brand new company Vauxhall Carlton (1986) in a multi-story car park in Bristol. :'( :'(
Plain clothes officers were actually watching the car park as there had been a number of such thefts from that car park, but had been on a different floor at the time!
The officer said that the radio, then if I remember correctly, was worth over £120, would have been sold already for probably £15 in a local pub they knew! That really cheered me up! ::) ::) ::)
Still, my company quickly paid for a new radio :D :D ;)
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Eldest daughter had her 2018 Ford Focus stolen from her driveway last week.
Scum managed to pry her front door open whilst her and husband and grandson were in bed asleep.Took her handbag from hallway table with car keys in and drove off in car .
Just to add insult to injury yesterday she received a speeding fine/summons through the post for the morning car was stolen going through a fixed 30mph camera at over 50mph.
Police not interested and insurance have offered her £2k less than they spent on car only 8 weeks ago and are hitting her with £400 excess.
Life sucks sometimes ah
That is bad luck! :( :(
Tell her to in future sleep with her handbag, with keys inside, beside her in future ;)
Did she lose any credit/debit cards with the handbag? ???
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Tell her to in future sleep with her BIG KNIFE, AND LOADED GUN, beside her in future ;)
absolutely Lizzie :y
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Tell her to in future sleep with her BIG KNIFE, AND LOADED GUN, beside her in future ;)
absolutely Lizzie :y
;D ;D ;D
Trouble is, with our current CPS, if she killed an attacker, in her very own bedroom, the chances are she is the one who would be charged with murder by using disproportionate force in her defensive action !! ::) ::) :P
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Tell her to in future sleep with her BIG KNIFE, AND LOADED GUN, beside her in future ;)
absolutely Lizzie :y
;D ;D ;D
Trouble is, with our current CPS, if she killed an attacker, in her very own bedroom, the chances are she is the one who would be charged with murder by using disproportionate force in her defensive action !! ::) ::) :P
Twelve people like me on the jury and she get a payout from public funds.
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Tell her to in future sleep with her BIG KNIFE, AND LOADED GUN, beside her in future ;)
absolutely Lizzie :y
;D ;D ;D
Trouble is, with our current CPS, if she killed an attacker, in her very own bedroom, the chances are she is the one who would be charged with murder by using disproportionate force in her defensive action !! ::) ::) :P
If she was "charged with murder " the CPS should be put in the cell to do the sentence .
we need to deter scum from stealing and worse being in someone's bedroom ,or house for that matter >:(
we need tough sentences ,hard labour and capital punishment
the CPS are too soft
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Twelve people like me on the jury and she get a payout from public funds.
absolutely :y
not too much money though ;D
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Tell her to in future sleep with her BIG KNIFE, AND LOADED GUN, beside her in future ;)
absolutely Lizzie :y
;D ;D ;D
Trouble is, with our current CPS, if she killed an attacker, in her very own bedroom, the chances are she is the one who would be charged with murder by using disproportionate force in her defensive action !! ::) ::) :P
Only if they found a body :-X No evidence = no crime...
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Tell her to in future sleep with her BIG KNIFE, AND LOADED GUN, beside her in future ;)
absolutely Lizzie :y
;D ;D ;D
Trouble is, with our current CPS, if she killed an attacker, in her very own bedroom, the chances are she is the one who would be charged with murder by using disproportionate force in her defensive action !! ::) ::) :P
Only if they found a body :-X No evidence = no crime...
Take you a while to eat a burglar, though. Unless you had a big dog. But he'd probably eat the burglar before he made it to the bedroom. ;D
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I read the title wrong, no comment.
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Answered None, as nobody ever managed to drive any away. But had several attempted thefts when I lived in a rough area of Aylesbury. When I had my Astra GTE, it was a monthly occurance >:(
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Tell her to in future sleep with her BIG KNIFE, AND LOADED GUN, beside her in future ;)
absolutely Lizzie :y
;D ;D ;D
Trouble is, with our current CPS, if she killed an attacker, in her very own bedroom, the chances are she is the one who would be charged with murder by using disproportionate force in her defensive action !! ::) ::) :P
Only if they found a body :-X No evidence = no crime...
Nope, not necessarily. Convictions for murder have been made without a body in the past, although it is hard for the prosecution to do. However, with modern forensics it is getting easier, and is more advanced than the "circumstantial" accepted before in such cases. ;)
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Tell her to in future sleep with her BIG KNIFE, AND LOADED GUN, beside her in future ;)
absolutely Lizzie :y
;D ;D ;D
Trouble is, with our current CPS, if she killed an attacker, in her very own bedroom, the chances are she is the one who would be charged with murder by using disproportionate force in her defensive action !! ::) ::) :P
If she was "charged with murder " the CPS should be put in the cell to do the sentence .
we need to deter scum from stealing and worse being in someone's bedroom ,or house for that matter >:(
we need tough sentences ,hard labour and capital punishment
the CPS are too soft
Agreed! :y :y
Plus stealing an Omega should be a hanging offence :D ;)
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Tell her to in future sleep with her BIG KNIFE, AND LOADED GUN, beside her in future ;)
absolutely Lizzie :y
;D ;D ;D
Trouble is, with our current CPS, if she killed an attacker, in her very own bedroom, the chances are she is the one who would be charged with murder by using disproportionate force in her defensive action !! ::) ::) :P
Only if they found a body :-X No evidence = no crime...
Nope, not necessarily. Convictions for murder have been made without a body in the past, although it is hard for the prosecution to do. However, with modern forensics it is getting easier, and is more advanced than the "circumstantial" accepted before in such cases. ;)
The problem is actually proving that said individual ever entered a given property... Good luck with that. ;)
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Yes receipts have now been supplied clearly showing their first offer just wasn't in the ball park let alone price paid ,which actually was under market value...so expecting them to atleast pay back the purchase price.
All house locks have now been replaced at their expense so can see this costing them a fair bit
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Tell her to in future sleep with her handbag, with keys inside, beside her in future ;)
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Which is exactly the opposite of what plod told a neighbour who had their house broken into in the small hours looking for the keys for his almost brand new S Class Merc. He had actually taken the upstairs with him, but would you really want some scum screaming at you stood next to your bed demanding car keys from you while you stare bleary eyed at him?
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Tell her to in future sleep with her handbag, with keys inside, beside her in future ;)
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Which is exactly the opposite of what plod told a neighbour who had their house broken into in the small hours looking for the keys for his almost brand new S Class Merc. He had actually taken the upstairs with him, but would you really want some scum screaming at you stood next to your bed demanding car keys from you while you stare bleary eyed at him?
no, good point ;)
However, the usual method of theft of new/newly new top of the range vehicles is to now use scanners to unlock the vehicle and allow the engine to be started, so the thieves do not have the bother, and risk, of entering the property. The 'old fashioned' thrieves are now usually the ones who break into the home, but to steal far more than a less than top of the range vehicle, going for everything their greedy little hands can be laid on of any value.
Keeping the car keys/handbag (which will often contain everything the thief wants) in sight of the front door is a great temptation to an opportunist thief, and if it can be reached through the letterbox - wey hay, it is Christmas!!
In short, if you own valuable items, like a E Class Merc parked on the drive to confirm "you are loaded" you are always going to be a target. If the thief wants a bit of what you have got, and you do not want to risk your families lives, then just make it very easy for them to take the car by leaving the keys on show - if they use scanners then they will be gone with the car within 30 seconds anyway! :o ;)
That is my take on it anyway ;D :y
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Good luck with explaining that thought process to your insurers ;D
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Good luck with explaining that thought process to your insurers ;D
If you are referring to my last post on leaving the keys out, as the thieves have to break in, the proof of the vehicle is easier to explain, and just might, I said might, give the police evidence to go on. If the thieves get to your bedroom, heaven forbid, there will be even more evidence for the police to work on, but of course not everyone is going to risk that, although I do everynight ;)
With scanners being used there is literally no evidence of theft for the police to work on, so explaining that to an insurance might be just a little difficult! ::) ;D ;)
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You, as the insured, have a responsibility to protect the keys from theft/attack.
If your car has keyless entry/start, then your reasonable duty is to protect the keys from all means of attack. If this means keeping them in a form of Faraday cage, so be it ;)
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Although it came close twice.. the first was a mk2 escort which I saw the git opening and shouted at to clear off which he did. and the second was a mk3 Granada that I found out someone had tried to pinch the following day when I found the door unlocked and a ford key jammed in the lock.
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Not had a car stolen-but very few of the ones I've owned would've been worth the effort-but did have a set of alloys nicked off a Senator A I once had.
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, and just might, I said might, give the police evidence to go on. ......
..... they don't need evidence to give a crime ref no for your insurance. Plod couldn't give a 4x (there's a tv ad in there somewhere ::)) if your car gets nicked.
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I forgot I did have a car nicked once! ::)
I went to a caff in Stokes Croft in Bristol (Lurvely area!) and when I came out my Rover 218 had disappeared! :(
So I reported it to the police, but it turned out the parking nazis had taken it! ::)
I think it cost about £120 to spring the old girl out of the pound! >:(
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Just to add insult to injury yesterday she received a speeding fine/summons through the post for the morning car was stolen going through a fixed 30mph camera at over 50mph.
Police not interested and insurance have offered her £2k less than they spent on car only 8 weeks ago and are hitting her with £400 excess.
Quick enough to process the £100 fine and offer of points though, eh! >:(
How long do a pond full of goldfish take to eat a burgler? Asking for a friend..
I'm not answering the poll in case that is tempting fate, btw ;D Bit like saying "Oh it's quiet today" in a call centre/A&E/etc..
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Looks as though I have been unlucky then.
The Capri was abandoned in Luton having been taken from Leicester. The Cooper S was abandoned in a field near Leicester having made numerous fun circuits. The Carlton was taken from under our nose in a locked car park at work with all the office windows open. It was locked and alarmed with a Crooklock as well. Never recovered. We fitted tracker to its replacement.
My dad had his Mini metro turbo stolen one night. That had a useless Crooklock on it. The perp crashed it and wrote it off only two miles away. Loads of blood inside. Police didn't visit hospital for admissions that night.
Thereafter my dad had a locking post installed in the drive. And continued using a Crooklock. One day he lost the key for it and spent an age hacksawing it off!
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You, as the insured, have a responsibility to protect the keys from theft/attack.
If your car has keyless entry/start, then your reasonable duty is to protect the keys from all means of attack. If this means keeping them in a form of Faraday cage, so be it ;)
Absolutely right, and that is why I suggested what I practice, and always have, of sleeping with my keys beside me in my handbag. :D :D :D ;)
BUT, I can readily accept why some may not wish to do that for the completely justifiable reasons they state, and as in the case of retail or banks workers who handle cash, the police, and at the time, my management team, would advise just handing the valuables over to save risking your life.
I think, forgetting the insurance consideration, it is all a decision for the individual, and if they wish to fight to protect the valuables under their control, such as the keys to a top of the range vehicle, or just make it easier for any determined thief to just pick them up, worrying about the insurance later. ;)
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I,ve voted none, but there was a botched attempt on my Mk2 Granny. They must have been pretty thick to not have been able to unlock that. ;D
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Every cloud..maybe.
Daughter has just rang me to say car has been located in car pound at Charlton South London.Thats some 45 miles from place it was stolen and some 11 days after the event.
I wonder what condition it will be in and where things will now stand ?? given it has probably been trashed and driven non too carefully .Atleast visible damage is easier to identify albeit she is still into the £400 excess to put it right
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I,ve voted none, but there was a botched attempt on my Mk2 Granny. They must have been pretty thick to not have been able to unlock that. ;D
They broke a quarter light on the rear door to get into mine >:( Talk about making it hard work ;D
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Every cloud..maybe.
Daughter has just rang me to say car has been located in car pound at Charlton South London.Thats some 45 miles from place it was stolen and some 11 days after the event.
I wonder what condition it will be in and where things will now stand ?? given it has probably been trashed and driven non too carefully .Atleast visible damage is easier to identify albeit she is still into the £400 excess to put it right
That is relatively good news! 8) :y
If it is in a compound, not found burnt out somewhere, you can only hope it is in a satisfactory condition at least given it was stolen. If the insurance company have not paid out yet, then at least, I think, she can have the option of taking it back and having any damage put right, within reason, but excess will still be enforceable in that case.
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Every cloud..maybe.
Daughter has just rang me to say car has been located in car pound at Charlton South London.Thats some 45 miles from place it was stolen and some 11 days after the event.
I wonder what condition it will be in and where things will now stand ?? given it has probably been trashed and driven non too carefully .Atleast visible damage is easier to identify albeit she is still into the £400 excess to put it right
but who pays recovery and storage fees :-\ assuming the car is OK
plus was the key left in it ,or will it need new keys and programming ,which costs £££
and it will be on the register as stolen/recovered ,which effects resale
plus ongoing increased insurance costs ,to all cars at the address :(
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All you comments Dave have gone through my mind and Im not sure what is the best advise I can give her .
By all accounts insurance company are due to collect car on Friday and a mechanic is going to assess the car ..presumably with a view to rightoff or repair.
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2 stolen both from Farnborough Main car park.
In 1985 a new Rover SD 2600 Auto never recovered. It was just a few months old.
Replaced with and had a few Ford Scorpios one of which (a 1994) was stolen in 1995. It had about 8000 on it. About 12 months later I got a phone call asking me about the history of the car and it had something like 60000 miles on it. Police made an arrest and as the insurance had paid out I was only awarded my excess to be paid by thief in monthly instalments.
After 37 years my parking at Farnborough this will cease at the end of this year and my annual car park ticket will be no more.
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Never had one stolen, but there was one occasion when I nearly drove off in the wrong Capri. Unlocked it, started it, put it in gear, looked down and thought that's not MY steering wheel Just how many dark green cars with a gold wing were there in that carpark? ;D
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Never had one stolen, but there was one occasion when I nearly drove off in the wrong Capri. Unlocked it, started it, put it in gear, looked down and thought that's not MY steering wheel Just how many dark green cars with a gold wing were there in that carpark? ;D
Classic Ford colours ;D
My last Mk Granada was Nimbus Grey over Strato Silver with a dark green front wing :D
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Never had one stolen, but there was one occasion when I nearly drove off in the wrong Capri. Unlocked it, started it, put it in gear, looked down and thought that's not MY steering wheel Just how many dark green cars with a gold wing were there in that carpark? ;D
Classic Ford colours ;D
My last Mk Granada was Nimbus Grey over Strato Silver with a dark green front wing :D
Thinking about it, the opposite front wing was Champagne Gold... ::)
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When my wife at the time bought a new replacement Astra the old Renault 19 my eldest daughter was going to have, until the steering wheel, with a Crooklock fitted was bent to try to remove it, the steering lock was broken & the dashboard trashed, I decided it was not worth repairing & scrapped it. There were many thefts of cars from front gardens at the time & never recovered, along with lots of metal thefts in general. >:( >:( >:(
I've also had a attempted house breakin, but they didn't get past the front door deadlock & couldn't breakin by breaking a window at the back. Fortunately, my next door neighbour at the time had a really loud dog who would make everybody aware by barking like mad if he felt is territory being threatened & when let out had gone mad at our adjoining fence, which I think scared them off.
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Never had one stolen, but there was one occasion when I nearly drove off in the wrong Capri. Unlocked it, started it, put it in gear, looked down and thought that's not MY steering wheel Just how many dark green cars with a gold wing were there in that carpark? ;D
Classic £20 Ford colours ;D
My last Mk Granada was Nimbus Grey over Strato Silver with a dark green front wing :D
FTFY :y