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Title: One for DG
Post by: Viral_Jim on 24 September 2019, 23:57:59
It's a pretty penny. But a super cool motor.  8)

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/retro/mercedes-museum-selling-stunning-w126-s-class (https://www.topgear.com/car-news/retro/mercedes-museum-selling-stunning-w126-s-class)
Title: Re: One for DG
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 25 September 2019, 00:09:44
Lovely.
Title: Re: One for DG
Post by: Rangie on 25 September 2019, 00:20:41
Beautiful car
Title: Re: One for DG
Post by: dave the builder on 25 September 2019, 01:59:01
I thought DG had finished TAXI driving  :-\

yes.....  I'm not a fan of old Mercs   :D ;D
Title: Re: One for DG
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 25 September 2019, 02:08:15
£42k is a bit steep for a manual 280SE, even if it's effectively brand new.

Still nice though 8)
Title: Re: One for DG
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 25 September 2019, 11:38:27
Call that a classic Merc?

This is one I love and would call a real "Classic":

(https://i.postimg.cc/Y0L9gKLS/Hitlers-Merc-770-Groser.jpg)

Just a shame about the owner of this 1940 Mercedes 770 Groser!! :o :o ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: One for DG
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 25 September 2019, 11:40:56
Most definitely not my cup of tea...
Title: Re: One for DG
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 25 September 2019, 12:08:48
Call that a classic Merc?

This is one I love and would call a real "Classic":

(https://i.postimg.cc/Y0L9gKLS/Hitlers-Merc-770-Groser.jpg)

Just a shame about the owner of this 1940 Mercedes 770 Groser!! :o :o ;D ;D ;)


Mother Teresa?...... ::)
Title: Re: One for DG
Post by: henryd on 25 September 2019, 12:09:03
Call that a classic Merc?

This is one I love and would call a real "Classic":

(https://i.postimg.cc/Y0L9gKLS/Hitlers-Merc-770-Groser.jpg)

Just a shame about the owner of this 1940 Mercedes 770 Groser!! :o :o ;D ;D ;)

First name wasn't Adolf by any chance ::) ???
Title: Re: One for DG
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 25 September 2019, 12:29:42
Call that a classic Merc?

This is one I love and would call a real "Classic":

(https://i.postimg.cc/Y0L9gKLS/Hitlers-Merc-770-Groser.jpg)

Just a shame about the owner of this 1940 Mercedes 770 Groser!! :o :o ;D ;D ;)


Mother Teresa?...... ::)


 ;D ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: One for DG
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 25 September 2019, 12:30:03
Call that a classic Merc?

This is one I love and would call a real "Classic":

(https://i.postimg.cc/Y0L9gKLS/Hitlers-Merc-770-Groser.jpg)

Just a shame about the owner of this 1940 Mercedes 770 Groser!! :o :o ;D ;D ;)

First name wasn't Adolf by any chance ::) ???

 ;D ;D ;D :y
Title: Re: One for DG
Post by: Viral_Jim on 26 September 2019, 10:51:10
In a not-too-dissimilar vein - an alternative way to spend a similar sum. Chauffeur required though...

https://www.pistonheads.com/regulars/ph-spottedykywt/maybach-62--the-brave-pill/40993 (https://www.pistonheads.com/regulars/ph-spottedykywt/maybach-62--the-brave-pill/40993)
Title: Re: One for DG
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 26 September 2019, 12:21:38
In a not-too-dissimilar vein - an alternative way to spend a similar sum. Chauffeur required though...

https://www.pistonheads.com/regulars/ph-spottedykywt/maybach-62--the-brave-pill/40993 (https://www.pistonheads.com/regulars/ph-spottedykywt/maybach-62--the-brave-pill/40993)

'Fookin orrible'.... :-X
Title: Re: One for DG
Post by: Rangie on 26 September 2019, 12:41:16
Looks like one of those awful Chinese copies of a luxury motor car as previously stated F***ing horrible.
Title: Re: One for DG
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 26 September 2019, 13:00:45
It reminds me of a large Rover, especially looking at the lines of the back end! :D :D ;)
Title: Re: One for DG
Post by: henryd on 26 September 2019, 13:22:12
It reminds me of a large Rover, especially looking at the lines of the back end! :D :D ;)

Similar side profile to a Rover 75 although the Rover better looking :y
Title: Re: One for DG
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 26 September 2019, 14:46:48
It reminds me of a large Rover, especially looking at the lines of the back end! :D :D ;)

Similar side profile to a Rover 75 although the Rover better looking :y

That's the one! :y
Title: Re: One for DG
Post by: Kevin Wood on 26 September 2019, 23:02:05
It reminds me of a large Rover, especially looking at the lines of the back end! :D :D ;)

Similar side profile to a Rover 75 although the Rover better looking :y

You know you've hit rock bottom when you find that you prefer a Rover 75.  ;D
Title: Re: One for DG
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 27 September 2019, 10:15:09
It reminds me of a large Rover, especially looking at the lines of the back end! :D :D ;)

Similar side profile to a Rover 75 although the Rover better looking :y

You know you've hit rock bottom when you find that you prefer a Rover 75.  ;D

Indeed! ;D ;D ;D

I looked up the facts about that Rover 75, and was surprised it was only produced over just 7 years.  I was also shocked to read it is considered as Rover's brands  "best models"!! :o :o  It has also a strong following on Rover Clubs ;)
 :)
Title: Re: One for DG
Post by: Viral_Jim on 27 September 2019, 11:09:34
I rather liked them, but they were too much money for something that didn't have a BMW, Merc or Audi badge.  ::)

There was also a very small number produced with the same 4.6l V8 that was in the P38 FFRR of the day. Quite an undertaking when you consider that all other variants of the car were FWD!
Title: Re: One for DG
Post by: STEMO on 27 September 2019, 11:14:12
We has an mgzt190+ 2.5 v6. Very hard ride but it stuck like glue.
Title: Re: One for DG
Post by: Nick W on 27 September 2019, 12:59:45
It reminds me of a large Rover, especially looking at the lines of the back end! :D :D ;)

Similar side profile to a Rover 75 although the Rover better looking :y

You know you've hit rock bottom when you find that you prefer a Rover 75.  ;D

Indeed! ;D ;D ;D

I looked up the facts about that Rover 75, and was surprised it was only produced over just 7 years.  I was also shocked to read it is considered as Rover's brands  "best models"!! :o :o  It has also a strong following on Rover Clubs ;)
 :)


why shocked? They're just what a 90s Rover should be, and are excellent cars as a result. A manual, 1.8t 75 estate is top of my list as an Omega replacement as it ticks the same list of requirements that the Omega did 10 years ago. I don't like the MGs because of their ugly cheap interiors and uncomfortable suspensions. V6s don't add enough to the turbo 4 pot to be worth the large increase in running costs.
Title: Re: One for DG
Post by: Nick W on 27 September 2019, 13:00:45
I rather liked them, but they were too much money for something that didn't have a BMW, Merc or Audi badge.  ::)

There was also a very small number produced with the same 4.6l V8 that was in the P38 FFRR of the day. Quite an undertaking when you consider that all other variants of the car were FWD!


there's a lot of 3 series BMW underneath.
Title: Re: One for DG
Post by: henryd on 27 September 2019, 13:06:38
I rather liked them, but they were too much money for something that didn't have a BMW, Merc or Audi badge.  ::)

There was also a very small number produced with the same 4.6l V8 that was in the P38 FFRR of the day. Quite an undertaking when you consider that all other variants of the car were FWD!

The 4.6 was out of a Ford Mustang and could be super charged to 400 + ponies if desired
Title: Re: One for DG
Post by: henryd on 27 September 2019, 13:08:26
It reminds me of a large Rover, especially looking at the lines of the back end! :D :D ;)

Similar side profile to a Rover 75 although the Rover better looking :y

You know you've hit rock bottom when you find that you prefer a Rover 75.  ;D

Indeed! ;D ;D ;D

I looked up the facts about that Rover 75, and was surprised it was only produced over just 7 years.  I was also shocked to read it is considered as Rover's brands  "best models"!! :o :o  It has also a strong following on Rover Clubs ;)
 :)


why shocked? They're just what a 90s Rover should be, and are excellent cars as a result. A manual, 1.8t 75 estate is top of my list as an Omega replacement as it ticks the same list of requirements that the Omega did 10 years ago. I don't like the MGs because of their ugly cheap interiors and uncomfortable suspensions. V6s don't add enough to the turbo 4 pot to be worth the large increase in running costs.

I've had a 18T in saloon form and a 2.0 cdti Mg in estate form,I liked both of them :y,the 18T was pretty lively
Title: Re: One for DG
Post by: Viral_Jim on 27 September 2019, 13:12:03
We has an mgzt190+ 2.5 v6. Very hard ride but it stuck like glue.

I always thought the MG variants didn't really have the go to back up the big wheels and spoilers, a bit all mouth and very little trouser...

That said, i always thought the V6 to be an ok lump for what it was.

The 4.6 was out of a Ford Mustang and could be super charged to 400 + ponies if desired

I stand corrected, I'd always thought it was the same GM derived lump that went into a million other things in various capacities (inc 5.0 in TVR iirc).
Title: Re: One for DG
Post by: Viral_Jim on 27 September 2019, 13:13:27
I've had a 18T in saloon form and a 2.0 cdti Mg in estate form,I liked both of them :y,the 18T was pretty lively

Head gaskets were always a weakness on the K-series I seem to remember, or are better parts now available to cure the issue?
Title: Re: One for DG
Post by: henryd on 27 September 2019, 13:13:58
We has an mgzt190+ 2.5 v6. Very hard ride but it stuck like glue.

I always thought the MG variants didn't really have the go to back up the big wheels and spoilers, a bit all mouth and very little trouser...

That said, i always thought the V6 to be an ok lump for what it was.

The 4.6 was out of a Ford Mustang and could be super charged to 400 + ponies if desired

I stand corrected, I'd always thought it was the same GM derived lump that went into a million other things in various capacities (inc 5.0 in TVR iirc).

The 190 didnt hang around :y
Title: Re: One for DG
Post by: henryd on 27 September 2019, 13:15:27
I've had a 18T in saloon form and a 2.0 cdti Mg in estate form,I liked both of them :y,the 18T was pretty lively

Head gaskets were always a weakness on the K-series I seem to remember, or are better parts now available to cure the issue?

Latest gaskets have all but finished those issues :y
Title: Re: One for DG
Post by: STEMO on 27 September 2019, 14:13:13
We has an mgzt190+ 2.5 v6. Very hard ride but it stuck like glue.

I always thought the MG variants didn't really have the go to back up the big wheels and spoilers, a bit all mouth and very little trouser...

That said, i always thought the V6 to be an ok lump for what it was.

The 4.6 was out of a Ford Mustang and could be super charged to 400 + ponies if desired

I stand corrected, I'd always thought it was the same GM derived lump that went into a million other things in various capacities (inc 5.0 in TVR iirc).
Yes, the one we had was shod with 18" very low profiles, £180 a corner even back then. And it ate the front ones in 10,000 miles. It was quite quick, but not as quick as the rover 623Sli we had with the 2.3 Honda engine. That was really torquey.
Title: Re: One for DG
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 27 September 2019, 14:22:59
I rather liked them, but they were too much money for something that didn't have a BMW, Merc or Audi badge.  ::)

There was also a very small number produced with the same 4.6l V8 that was in the P38 FFRR of the day. Quite an undertaking when you consider that all other variants of the car were FWD!
Ford lump from the Mustang ;) bit newer than the P38...
Title: Re: One for DG
Post by: henryd on 27 September 2019, 16:03:36
I rather liked them, but they were too much money for something that didn't have a BMW, Merc or Audi badge.  ::)

There was also a very small number produced with the same 4.6l V8 that was in the P38 FFRR of the day. Quite an undertaking when you consider that all other variants of the car were FWD!
Ford lump from the Mustang ;) bit newer than the P38...

Cough,there's an echo here ;D
Title: Re: One for DG
Post by: Andy B on 27 September 2019, 16:07:01
I rather liked them, but they were too much money for something that didn't have a BMW, Merc or Audi badge.  ::)

There was also a very small number produced with the same 4.6l V8 that was in the P38 FFRR of the day. Quite an undertaking when you consider that all other variants of the car were FWD!
Ford lump from the Mustang ;) bit newer than the P38...

Cough,there's an echo here ;D

Isn't there a Ford Mustang Pony on the plenum to remind us where the engine is from?  :y
Title: Re: One for DG
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 27 September 2019, 16:41:32
I rather liked them, but they were too much money for something that didn't have a BMW, Merc or Audi badge.  ::)

There was also a very small number produced with the same 4.6l V8 that was in the P38 FFRR of the day. Quite an undertaking when you consider that all other variants of the car were FWD!
Ford lump from the Mustang ;) bit newer than the P38...

Cough,there's an echo here ;D

Isn't there a Ford Mustang Pony on the plenum to remind us where the engine is from? :y

I'd sooner have the emblem on the top of a P51 Mustang engine! ::) ::) :P ;D ;)
Title: Re: One for DG
Post by: Kevin Wood on 27 September 2019, 17:05:42
We has an mgzt190+ 2.5 v6. Very hard ride but it stuck like glue.

I always thought the MG variants didn't really have the go to back up the big wheels and spoilers, a bit all mouth and very little trouser...


Exactly my experience. A mate of mine had one. Sounded fantastic. Couldn't pull the skin off a wet rice pudding*. ;D


* -  not strictly true, but if I was going for V8 running costs I'd want a lot more go in return.
Title: Re: One for DG
Post by: henryd on 27 September 2019, 17:31:06
I rather liked them, but they were too much money for something that didn't have a BMW, Merc or Audi badge.  ::)

There was also a very small number produced with the same 4.6l V8 that was in the P38 FFRR of the day. Quite an undertaking when you consider that all other variants of the car were FWD!
Ford lump from the Mustang ;) bit newer than the P38...

Cough,there's an echo here ;D

Isn't there a Ford Mustang Pony on the plenum to remind us where the engine is from? :y

I'd sooner have the emblem on the top of a P51 Mustang engine! ::) ::) :P ;D ;)

me too,Rolls finest :y
Title: Re: One for DG
Post by: Nick W on 28 September 2019, 14:54:13
I rather liked them, but they were too much money for something that didn't have a BMW, Merc or Audi badge.  ::)

There was also a very small number produced with the same 4.6l V8 that was in the P38 FFRR of the day. Quite an undertaking when you consider that all other variants of the car were FWD!
Ford lump from the Mustang ;) bit newer than the P38...


it's just the base spec 260hp 4.6 Ford used in everything. After measuring the output on the same dyno that rated a 3.0l Essex at 138hp ;D . It sounds better than it is. Although the Rover has got to weigh less than a Mustang....
Title: Re: One for DG
Post by: Nick W on 28 September 2019, 14:58:09


Isn't there a Ford Mustang Pony on the plenum to remind us where the engine is from? :y

I'd sooner have the emblem on the top of a P51 Mustang engine! ::) ::) :P ;D ;)

me too,Rolls finest :y


comprehensively re-engineered by Packard to make more power, last longer and be mass produced in enough numbers to make a long term difference.