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Title: Partition editor
Post by: Shackeng on 03 November 2019, 19:13:27
I need to move unallocated space on my laptop D drive to allow me to extend my c drive. Can anyone recommend a good freeware partition editor?  :y
Title: Re: Partition editor
Post by: aaronjb on 04 November 2019, 08:06:14
I need to move unallocated space on my laptop D drive to allow me to extend my c drive. Can anyone recommend a good freeware partition editor?  :y

For which OS? (IIRC you were trialling Linux recently - gparted should work just fine there and it's installed by default in most distros)
Title: Re: Partition editor
Post by: Shackeng on 04 November 2019, 16:21:33
I need to move unallocated space on my laptop D drive to allow me to extend my c drive. Can anyone recommend a good freeware partition editor?  :y

For which OS? (IIRC you were trialling Linux recently - gparted should work just fine there and it's installed by default in most distros)
Sorry, i omitted it is Win7 :y
Not got around to using Linux properly, just to extract files from non-booting PC to my limited space laptop. I have extra space on the laptop D drive which was FAT 32 & converted to NTFS, but i have to move its unallocated space before i can use it for the C drive. I hope that makes sense. :y
Title: Re: Partition editor
Post by: Entwood on 04 November 2019, 17:22:57
minitool parition wizard (free home user version) has managed to most of what I've ever needed .. :)

https://www.partitionwizard.com/
Title: Re: Partition editor
Post by: TheBoy on 04 November 2019, 17:34:15
Windows can do it itself (certainly Pro, would need to check Home)

Back up D:
Delete D:
Extended C: from the inbuilt disk management tool
Recreate D if required (who is daft enough in this day and age to split a drive?)
Restore files
Title: Re: Partition editor
Post by: Shackeng on 04 November 2019, 19:01:01
Windows can do it itself (certainly Pro, would need to check Home)

Back up D:
Delete D:
Extended C: from the inbuilt disk management tool
Recreate D if required (who is daft enough in this day and age to split a drive?)
Restore files

The reason I have not tried this is that the D drive volume is ACERDATA. I have backed these files up externally however, so is it OK to put them in the C drive, then delete the D. :-\
Title: Re: Partition editor
Post by: TheBoy on 04 November 2019, 19:11:24
Depends what the files are.  The volume name means nothing (though implies its the most unreliable brand out there) ;)
Title: Re: Partition editor
Post by: Shackeng on 04 November 2019, 22:42:03
Depends what the files are.  The volume name means nothing (though implies its the most unreliable brand out there) ;)

As they are on the D drive on their own, I assumed they are system files.  :-\
Title: Re: Partition editor
Post by: Shackeng on 05 November 2019, 07:33:48
I bought this ACER Extensa 5220 years ago to use as a backup if my PC failed. Unfortunately it was only running XP. I have since upgraded it to 7 but it does not have the space on the C drive to cope with all the files I have ‘rescued’ from the dormant PC. Hence my efforts to utilise the 29gb of unused space on the D drive. I also need to increase the RAM as it only uses one of its 2 slots at 1Gb. Unfortunately it seems I can only double it to 2Gb.  :(
Title: Re: Partition editor
Post by: TheBoy on 05 November 2019, 18:13:58
Depends what the files are.  The volume name means nothing (though implies its the most unreliable brand out there) ;)

As they are on the D drive on their own, I assumed they are system files.  :-\
Hard to say without some examples...
Title: Re: Partition editor
Post by: TheBoy on 05 November 2019, 18:15:48
I bought this ACER Extensa 5220 years ago to use as a backup if my PC failed. Unfortunately it was only running XP. I have since upgraded it to 7 but it does not have the space on the C drive to cope with all the files I have ‘rescued’ from the dormant PC. Hence my efforts to utilise the 29gb of unused space on the D drive. I also need to increase the RAM as it only uses one of its 2 slots at 1Gb. Unfortunately it seems I can only double it to 2Gb.  :(
The laptop I am typing this on now only has 2Gb, runs Win10 Pro, old Core2 Duo CPU.  It handles day to day tasks fine, it struggles only with CPU intensive chores, such as websites laden with ads, such as egay.
Title: Re: Partition editor
Post by: LC0112G on 06 November 2019, 00:10:11
I bought this ACER Extensa 5220 years ago to use as a backup if my PC failed. Unfortunately it was only running XP. I have since upgraded it to 7 but it does not have the space on the C drive to cope with all the files I have ‘rescued’ from the dormant PC. Hence my efforts to utilise the 29gb of unused space on the D drive. I also need to increase the RAM as it only uses one of its 2 slots at 1Gb. Unfortunately it seems I can only double it to 2Gb.  :(

If it's running the 32 bit versions of WinXP or Win7 then upgrading to 2GB memory is probably cheap and worth it. No point in going above 4GB though - that's the theoretical maximum for 32 bit Windows, and in reality you probably can't use more than about 3GB because much of the memory above 3GB is reserved for system use - BIOS and graphics usually.

This laptop (DELL Vostro 1720 Core2 Duo running Win7Pro-32) has 4GB installed, but only 2.96GB is useable according to the control panel.
Title: Re: Partition editor
Post by: aaronjb on 06 November 2019, 07:56:46
I bought this ACER Extensa 5220 years ago to use as a backup if my PC failed. Unfortunately it was only running XP. I have since upgraded it to 7 but it does not have the space on the C drive to cope with all the files I have ‘rescued’ from the dormant PC. Hence my efforts to utilise the 29gb of unused space on the D drive. I also need to increase the RAM as it only uses one of its 2 slots at 1Gb. Unfortunately it seems I can only double it to 2Gb.  :(
The laptop I am typing this on now only has 2Gb, runs Win10 Pro, old Core2 Duo CPU.  It handles day to day tasks fine, it struggles only with CPU intensive chores, such as websites laden with ads, such as egay.

With such high specs as that, this sounds like it would be right up your street:
https://store.pine64.org/?product=14%E2%80%B3-pinebook-pro-linux-laptop-ansi-us-keyboard-estimated-dispatch-in-december-2019&attribute_pa_power-supply=eu (https://store.pine64.org/?product=14%E2%80%B3-pinebook-pro-linux-laptop-ansi-us-keyboard-estimated-dispatch-in-december-2019&attribute_pa_power-supply=eu)  :D
Title: Re: Partition editor
Post by: Shackeng on 06 November 2019, 16:19:58
I bought this ACER Extensa 5220 years ago to use as a backup if my PC failed. Unfortunately it was only running XP. I have since upgraded it to 7 but it does not have the space on the C drive to cope with all the files I have ‘rescued’ from the dormant PC. Hence my efforts to utilise the 29gb of unused space on the D drive. I also need to increase the RAM as it only uses one of its 2 slots at 1Gb. Unfortunately it seems I can only double it to 2Gb.  :(

If it's running the 32 bit versions of WinXP or Win7 then upgrading to 2GB memory is probably cheap and worth it. No point in going above 4GB though - that's the theoretical maximum for 32 bit Windows, and in reality you probably can't use more than about 3GB because much of the memory above 3GB is reserved for system use - BIOS and graphics usually.

This laptop (DELL Vostro 1720 Core2 Duo running Win7Pro-32) has 4GB installed, but only 2.96GB is useable according to the control panel.

Win7 64 bit and just doubled RAM to 2gb.   :-X
Title: Re: Partition editor
Post by: TheBoy on 07 November 2019, 17:29:08
I bought this ACER Extensa 5220 years ago to use as a backup if my PC failed. Unfortunately it was only running XP. I have since upgraded it to 7 but it does not have the space on the C drive to cope with all the files I have ‘rescued’ from the dormant PC. Hence my efforts to utilise the 29gb of unused space on the D drive. I also need to increase the RAM as it only uses one of its 2 slots at 1Gb. Unfortunately it seems I can only double it to 2Gb.  :(

If it's running the 32 bit versions of WinXP or Win7 then upgrading to 2GB memory is probably cheap and worth it. No point in going above 4GB though - that's the theoretical maximum for 32 bit Windows, and in reality you probably can't use more than about 3GB because much of the memory above 3GB is reserved for system use - BIOS and graphics usually.

This laptop (DELL Vostro 1720 Core2 Duo running Win7Pro-32) has 4GB installed, but only 2.96GB is useable according to the control panel.

Win7 64 bit and just doubled RAM to 2gb.   :-X
For 64bit, I would normally recommend more than 4Gb. 64bit is less efficient with memory than 32 bit.

General rule of thumb:
32bit - 2Gb-3.5Gb
64bit - > 6Gb

3.5 - 6Gb is no mans land really.
Title: Re: Partition editor
Post by: TheBoy on 07 November 2019, 17:30:57
I bought this ACER Extensa 5220 years ago to use as a backup if my PC failed. Unfortunately it was only running XP. I have since upgraded it to 7 but it does not have the space on the C drive to cope with all the files I have ‘rescued’ from the dormant PC. Hence my efforts to utilise the 29gb of unused space on the D drive. I also need to increase the RAM as it only uses one of its 2 slots at 1Gb. Unfortunately it seems I can only double it to 2Gb.  :(
The laptop I am typing this on now only has 2Gb, runs Win10 Pro, old Core2 Duo CPU.  It handles day to day tasks fine, it struggles only with CPU intensive chores, such as websites laden with ads, such as egay.

With such high specs as that, this sounds like it would be right up your street:
https://store.pine64.org/?product=14%E2%80%B3-pinebook-pro-linux-laptop-ansi-us-keyboard-estimated-dispatch-in-december-2019&attribute_pa_power-supply=eu (https://store.pine64.org/?product=14%E2%80%B3-pinebook-pro-linux-laptop-ansi-us-keyboard-estimated-dispatch-in-december-2019&attribute_pa_power-supply=eu)  :D
Linux is unsuitable for the uses this laptop gets put to.

And besides, if I wanted to use a US keyboard, I have a perfectly good UK spec MacBook Pro in a drawer somewhere in the house.
Title: Re: Partition editor
Post by: dave the builder on 07 November 2019, 19:00:39
can't you get porn and ebay on a linux laptop  ;D

my antique xp car diagnostics laptop has just sh*t it's pot full  :(
just after I ordered memory sticks and brand new ye olde pata 60 gig hard drive  ::)
got a HP mini 210 on windows 7 (which will do) ,so I will have to transfer all the software
just had to order more ram for that as it's only 1 gig  ::)

Title: Re: Partition editor
Post by: Kevin Wood on 08 November 2019, 04:25:21
I bought this ACER Extensa 5220 years ago to use as a backup if my PC failed. Unfortunately it was only running XP. I have since upgraded it to 7 but it does not have the space on the C drive to cope with all the files I have ‘rescued’ from the dormant PC. Hence my efforts to utilise the 29gb of unused space on the D drive. I also need to increase the RAM as it only uses one of its 2 slots at 1Gb. Unfortunately it seems I can only double it to 2Gb.  :(
The laptop I am typing this on now only has 2Gb, runs Win10 Pro, old Core2 Duo CPU.  It handles day to day tasks fine, it struggles only with CPU intensive chores, such as websites laden with ads, such as egay.

With such high specs as that, this sounds like it would be right up your street:
https://store.pine64.org/?product=14%E2%80%B3-pinebook-pro-linux-laptop-ansi-us-keyboard-estimated-dispatch-in-december-2019&attribute_pa_power-supply=eu (https://store.pine64.org/?product=14%E2%80%B3-pinebook-pro-linux-laptop-ansi-us-keyboard-estimated-dispatch-in-december-2019&attribute_pa_power-supply=eu)  :D

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Small numbers (1-3) of stuck or dead pixels are a characteristic of LCD screens. These are normal and should not be considered a defect.

= LCD panels off the back of a lorry. :-\
Title: Re: Partition editor
Post by: TheBoy on 08 November 2019, 13:11:16
can't you get porn and ebay on a linux laptop  ;D

my antique xp car diagnostics laptop has just sh*t it's pot full  :(
just after I ordered memory sticks and brand new ye olde pata 60 gig hard drive  ::)
got a HP mini 210 on windows 7 (which will do) ,so I will have to transfer all the software
just had to order more ram for that as it's only 1 gig  ::)
Last time I saw a PATA drive was last year. In my Jag ;D

I have an HP Mini somewhere, but bumped up to 2Gb, and an SSD to make it almost usable.  But the screen resolution is a problem, its something like 1024x600. Basically too low.

I have a (really crap, ill conceived) Acer tablet that has exactly the opposite issue - the screen is too small but resolution is too high, something like 1080x1920 on a 7" display ;D.  Not even Specsavers could help there ;D.
Title: Re: Partition editor
Post by: dave the builder on 08 November 2019, 14:51:01
I'm not fussed about the screen resolution, it's not for internet use just obd2 diagnostics ,tis,epc,tolerancedata etc
you can plug in an external screen if needed
I got 2 GB of ddr3 ordered £4 (that is the max it will take apparently)
don't think it's worth installing an SSD, other than booting faster(which is not an issue) all the software is simple :-\

very surprised that a newish Jag would have a PATA drive  :o
Title: Re: Partition editor
Post by: Shackeng on 08 November 2019, 15:58:57
I transferred the ACERDATA to C drive and did as Jaime suggested and deleted the D drive. Result, so now have sufficient space to tinker with while trying to rescue the PC. Having copied everything off the PC to an external drive, I attempted to upgrade to Win 10, but it won’t accept the Win 7 code, so I guess that route is finished.  :(
Title: Re: Partition editor
Post by: TheBoy on 08 November 2019, 17:38:26
I attempted to upgrade to Win 10, but it won’t accept the Win 7 code, so I guess that route is finished.  :(
PM sent. If you Win7 is licenced, you can still upgrade to Win10 free, and get a genuine licence.