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Title: Volvo V70 Drivers Door Problem
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 15 December 2019, 12:13:21
A few weeks ago the wind caught my drivers door on the V70 and broke the door strap.  :(

At the time I wasn't too bothered as the door opened and closed easily, but at some point the door strap has caught the window track and bent it and now my window won't go down.  :-\

I took the door card off yesterday, but there is only a small hole by the door strap to work through and although I had a go at un-bending the window track with a pair of stilsons, I didn't have much luck.  :(

Other than persisting with my gynecological efforts to unbend the window track through the little hole, any suggestions?  ???  It seems to me that the window track is riveted into the door structure as far as I can tell...  :-\
Title: Re: Volvo V70 Drivers Door Problem
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 15 December 2019, 14:09:11
Remove, repair/replace, refit ;)
Title: Re: Volvo V70 Drivers Door Problem
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 15 December 2019, 14:59:39
Easier said than done....  ::)

The inner door skin is not removable and even to replace the window mechanism you have work through a hole...  :-\

I can't see how the window track can be removed to be honest, as it looks as though it as been riveted in place and then the inner door skin welded on.  :-\

I'll have to have another look...  ::)
Title: Re: Volvo V70 Drivers Door Problem
Post by: Andy B on 15 December 2019, 15:31:33
Easier said than done....  ::)

The inner door skin is not removable and even to replace the window mechanism you have work through a hole...  :-\

I can't see how the window track can be removed to be honest, as it looks as though it as been riveted in place and then the inner door skin welded on.  :-\

I'll have to have another look...  ::)

You're lucky. The OUTER plastic door panel needs to come off my Smart Roadster to access the window mechanism  ::)  :y
Title: Re: Volvo V70 Drivers Door Problem
Post by: dave the builder on 15 December 2019, 15:35:08
that's inspirational Andy  :)
so use a can opener to remove the outer door skin Sir Tigger
then gaffer tape it back on  :y
job sorted in time for crimbo  ;D
Title: Re: Volvo V70 Drivers Door Problem
Post by: Rangie on 15 December 2019, 15:39:48
Sounds like a trip to the breakers for a door to me .
Title: Re: Volvo V70 Drivers Door Problem
Post by: Andy B on 15 December 2019, 15:42:05
that's inspirational Andy  :)
so use a can opener to remove the outer door skin Sir Tigger
then gaffer tape it back on  :y
job sorted in time for crimbo  ;D

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Volvo V70 Drivers Door Problem
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 15 December 2019, 15:44:29
Mk5 Golfs have screwed on door skins... Must be a 'thing'  :D
Title: Re: Volvo V70 Drivers Door Problem
Post by: henryd on 15 December 2019, 20:11:07
Easier said than done....  ::)

The inner door skin is not removable and even to replace the window mechanism you have work through a hole...  :-\

I can't see how the window track can be removed to be honest, as it looks as though it as been riveted in place and then the inner door skin welded on.  :-\

I'll have to have another look...  ::)

You're lucky. The OUTER plastic door panel needs to come off my Smart Roadster to access the window mechanism  ::)  :y
Title: Re: Volvo V70 Drivers Door Problem
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 15 December 2019, 22:59:29
I thought Henry was going to impart words of wisdom, but.....  :D  ;D
Title: Re: Volvo V70 Drivers Door Problem
Post by: Nick W on 16 December 2019, 09:58:24
Easier said than done....  ::)

The inner door skin is not removable and even to replace the window mechanism you have work through a hole...  :-\

I can't see how the window track can be removed to be honest, as it looks as though it as been riveted in place and then the inner door skin welded on.  :-\

I'll have to have another look...  ::)


you need a diagram of how the door assemblies fit together. Google should provide that.


Window tracks are usually inserted through the top of the door, and secured in place once the window has been fitted to its mechanism. That's normally bolts/screws, but as most cars that aren't VAG products don't need to have the windows serviced then rivets would be a good option. Rivets are a better fastener than bolts, and particularly screws, when securing to moving or vibrating sheetmetal. Drill them out and replace if necessary.
Title: Re: Volvo V70 Drivers Door Problem
Post by: STEMO on 16 December 2019, 11:19:58
Yeah. Get one of them bendy drill bits that goes around corners  ;D
Title: Re: Volvo V70 Drivers Door Problem
Post by: henryd on 16 December 2019, 12:21:42
I thought Henry was going to impart words of wisdom, but.....  :D  ;D

Lol,Dr G had already done that so rather than repeat I removed text :y
Title: Re: Volvo V70 Drivers Door Problem
Post by: henryd on 16 December 2019, 12:24:34
have a butchers here

https://cdn4.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/Volvo-V70/74-INTERIOR-Front_Window_Regulator_Replacement/images_med/pic01.jpg
Title: Re: Volvo V70 Drivers Door Problem
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 16 December 2019, 14:41:57
What age is it? Post '07 the inner door skin should be Bolted on... Technically to remove it you first remove the door card followed by the glass. Presumably to avoid setting issues as the motor is attached to the door skin.

Removing glass is easy, but requires opening the window 265mm, then pop out two grommets, loosen two nuts a maximum of two turns and lift the window out arse end first :y

If you're as slightly built as I recall, then you should be able to get both arms and a head inside the door once the panel is off ;)
Title: Re: Volvo V70 Drivers Door Problem
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 16 December 2019, 16:01:53
have a butchers here

https://cdn4.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/Volvo-V70/74-INTERIOR-Front_Window_Regulator_Replacement/images_med/pic01.jpg
Also clearly bolted on ;) Removing the speaker might also improve visibility at the front of the door...
Title: Re: Volvo V70 Drivers Door Problem
Post by: henryd on 16 December 2019, 16:44:54
have a butchers here

https://cdn4.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/Volvo-V70/74-INTERIOR-Front_Window_Regulator_Replacement/images_med/pic01.jpg
Also clearly bolted on ;) Removing the speaker might also improve visibility at the front of the door...

similar set up to the mk4 golf,I have one here in bits at the moment
Title: Re: Volvo V70 Drivers Door Problem
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 16 December 2019, 17:17:06
Thanks Henry, but it's the wrong door unfortunately.  :(  That's the P1 (98-01) door and mines the P2 (02-07). 

I'll pop the door card off again and take a photo...  :)
Title: Re: Volvo V70 Drivers Door Problem
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 16 December 2019, 17:23:53
Have you a Haynes manual for it?
Title: Re: Volvo V70 Drivers Door Problem
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 16 December 2019, 17:59:17
Have you a Haynes manual for it?

No... 

There's a few 'How to' videos on changing the window regulator, but the knackered window channel is by the hinges and as said the only access is through a small hole.  ::)
Title: Re: Volvo V70 Drivers Door Problem
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 16 December 2019, 18:27:06
Door liner and glass out, then remove the channel and repair or replace.

At risk of repeating myself  ;)

Clear all the crap out of the way and you'll have all the access you need. Pull the door if it makes it easier to work on...
Title: Re: Volvo V70 Drivers Door Problem
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 16 December 2019, 18:51:04
I'll have another look....  ::)
Title: Re: Volvo V70 Drivers Door Problem
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 17 December 2019, 00:51:22
This (http://yuckujackd.snimka.bg/automobiles/door-volvo-p2-platform.613872.24625150) is the same as my door and the small hatch at the front is where the knackered window channel is.  ::)

I'll have another look tomorrow if it's dry to see how it's fixed in.  :y
Title: Re: Volvo V70 Drivers Door Problem
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 17 December 2019, 04:50:38
Pull the speaker as well ;)
Title: Re: Volvo V70 Drivers Door Problem
Post by: henryd on 17 December 2019, 16:52:08
Pull the speaker as well ;)

^^^ What DG said,that'll give you room :y
Title: Re: Volvo V70 Drivers Door Problem
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 18 December 2019, 23:05:34
I pulled off the door card again this morning before the rain set in and removed the speaker as well.  :y

Unfortunately the window channel is pretty mangled and also is welded in, but I had a go at straightening it out anyway without success.  :-\

The skies darkened and the wind picked up, so I hastily put it all back together and beat a retreat before the heavens opened to fight another day!  :)

Luckily I don't think I'll need to open the window for a while anyway!  :D
Title: Re: Volvo V70 Drivers Door Problem
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 19 December 2019, 05:42:01
New door it is then...  :-\
Title: Re: Volvo V70 Drivers Door Problem
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 19 December 2019, 09:36:27
Probably...  :-\

What a pisser and all because I didn't get round to sorting a minor problem with a £10 part!  ::)  :(

The moral of the story is....
Title: Re: Volvo V70 Drivers Door Problem
Post by: aaronjb on 19 December 2019, 09:54:18
The moral of the story is....

Don't buy an Ovlov? ::)
Title: Re: Volvo V70 Drivers Door Problem
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 19 December 2019, 16:38:46
The moral of the story is....

Don't buy an Ovlov? ::)

For a sub £1000 workhorse banger it's a great car and there's not a spot of rust, which is pretty good for a 16 year old with 165k on the clock.  :y

Although the drive is uninspiring and the turning circle is crap, the 2.4 D5 is pretty lively and has plenty of grunt when needed.  I'd have another, but I'd try and find the AWD version or maybe the XC70, as it really should be RWD!   :)