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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: Lizzie Zoom on 08 January 2020, 13:41:53
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Had my car MOT'd this morning at my Vx dealer on TC and it passed with flying colours.
The "advisorories" about dirty and corroded front springs and brake pipes of 2019, that I dealt with by getting under the car and washing them all down, then covering them in anti-rust treatment / paint, were not repeated, so I am very pleased about that! 8) 8) :D
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Good news Lizzie! :y
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Happy days :y :y
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Yes, indeed, and just proves if we spend time and money on our beloved Omega's they will last until the costs become too prohibited or we cannot do what is required to keep them running.
Just the other day I saw one almost exactly the same as mine; same colour and specification in great condition, but 1 year older.
Long live the Omega! ;D ;D :y :y
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Well done, Lizzie. Another year of luxury motoring to come. Have you found an understanding tester?
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Mine is the same colour and similar spec as yours but has covered almost 190,000 miles. Its still lovely to drive and attracts admiring comments from people. This is, as you say, because its been taken care of during its life. It like it could be capable of lasting another 17 years and doing the same miles again.
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Mine is the same colour and similar spec as yours but has covered almost 190,000 miles. Its still lovely to drive and attracts admiring comments from people. This is, as you say, because its been taken care of during its life. It like it could be capable of lasting another 17 years and doing the same miles again.
Yes, mines at 79K, so in theory, mechanically, it could :y :y
It is just the potential issues with the chassis that others have warned about that ring in my ears and I cannot ignore. Still, after coating even hidden areas of the chassis with cans of protective solution and painting others, I can do no more. ::);) :y
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Well done, Lizzie. Another year of luxury motoring to come. Have you found an understanding tester?
Funnily enough the tester at my Vx dealer knows my car well after years of doing the MOT on it. They also know I have spent real time and money on it. Last year however I went to my usually very reliable tyres, exhausts, brakes, general servicing and repairs dealer, that has also sporadically also tested my car, but it was a different guy to the one that knows me and car well. I have this niggling suspicion that he found fault, advisoraries, that were no where near as bad as he suggested. Proved indeed by me simply cleaning down all the brake pipes and springs, giving them a coat of paint (for the springs) and protective Supertrol along all brake lines. As I stated before, no mention was made this time at all of any "dirt or corrosion" on anything!! ::) ::) :-X
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TBH, I nearly didn't even bother presenting TBE for its MOT last summer. It was only the age old issue of not being able to find a replacement meant I did.
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The killer is rust and fuel costs, everything else can be sorted for relatively low cost, complete engines, gearboxes, diffs, doors, doors etc but rust in all the wrong structural places and heavy fuel consumption compared to more modern engines is its downfall.
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The killer is rust and fuel costs, everything else can be sorted for relatively low cost, complete engines, gearboxes, diffs, doors, doors etc but rust in all the wrong structural places and heavy fuel consumption compared to more modern engines is its downfall.
LPG overcame the fuel issue for me, as my boot was only needed twice a year. Though she finds it a weekly chore to find LPG in these parts - best case is a 20 mile round trip, with about a 85% success rate, and an horrific 68.9p
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Congratulations on the pass Lizzie :)
your's will be due it's first gearbox service ,if you ever do enough miles to get it up to 80k ;D
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Congratulations on the pass Lizzie :)
your's will be due it's first gearbox service ,if you ever do enough miles to get it up to 80k ;D
Thanks Dave.
Yes, I had forgotten about that. Mind you, none of my Omega’s have had their gearboxes touched even after double my current mileage! ::) ::) :D :D
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Congratulations on the pass Lizzie :)
your's will be due it's first gearbox service ,if you ever do enough miles to get it up to 80k ;D
TBE's probably needs some fresh ATF, seeing as its done 150k ::)
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Congratulations on the pass Lizzie :)
your's will be due it's first gearbox service ,if you ever do enough miles to get it up to 80k ;D
Thanks Dave.
Yes, I had forgotten about that. Mind you, none of my Omega’s have had their gearboxes touched even after double my current mileage! ::) ::) :D :D
My beloved Silver Bullet had loads of services. Namely because it had a habit of deciding that the ATF was better on the outside of the box.
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Congratulations on the pass Lizzie :)
your's will be due it's first gearbox service ,if you ever do enough miles to get it up to 80k ;D
TBE's probably needs some fresh ATF, seeing as its done 150k ::)
if it aint broke ;D
advice generally is either service it regularly or leave it alone ,
doing an ATF change on a high mile box that has never been serviced could well kill it
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Congratulations on the pass Lizzie :)
your's will be due it's first gearbox service ,if you ever do enough miles to get it up to 80k ;D
TBE's probably needs some fresh ATF, seeing as its done 150k ::)
if it aint broke ;D
advice generally is either service it regularly or leave it alone ,
doing an ATF change on a high mile box that has never been serviced could well kill it
Last AR35 on the daily had a fluid, filter change at 127K, it lasted just under another 100K.
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Despite all the abuse that the AR35 in the Bullet had, I think it did well to last well over 230k. But it was ultimately the cause of its demise.
That said, it was often sat at the lights with the brakes hard on, and the throttle just below where it would stall, for maximum acceleration ;D
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Does the AR25 box suffer the same? Only asking as I have just bought all the parts to change my ATF on a 150K box with no history. It seems to be a bit sluggish on changing up and I was hoping an oil change might help.
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Does the AR25 box suffer the same? Only asking as I have just bought all the parts to change my ATF on a 150K box with no history. It seems to be a bit sluggish on changing up and I was hoping an oil change might help.
If it's bolted to a 2.6 you'll find they are all like that - hold onto the revs in the lower gears (when up to temp so not the normal warm up mode).
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To my knowledge, my AR35 has never been touched. Im currently undecided between fluid and filter change, or leave as is and stick another box in if it gives trouble.
It performs faultlessly at the moment, and I have other priorities on both cars, so a decision isn't high on the priority list.
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Congratulations on the pass. Mine passed with little trouble again this year.
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Well done Lizzie.At least the care and attention you lavish on it seems to be paying off. :y
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Thanks all :y :y
I am now left wondering if I should have the gear box serviced or not given the various comments above. What is the official Vx recommendation please? What is the experienced gear box OOF’rs view on that?
I have no knowledge of what is right or wrong when it comes to gear boxes; never been trained in any aspect of them or touched them, apart from being a driver and knowing how to use them to the full! :D ;)
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Great news Lizzie, another year of luxurious motoring 😎
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Thanks all :y :y
I am now left wondering if I should have the gear box serviced or not given the various comments above. What is the official Vx recommendation please? What is the experienced gear box OOF’rs view on that?
I have no knowledge of what is right or wrong when it comes to gear boxes; never been trained in any aspect of them or touched them, apart from being a driver and knowing how to use them to the full! :D ;)
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A lot of companies advised "sealed for life" re gearboxes ,but everyone I know myself included notices much smoother action if oil & filter change is carried out, I had the Subaru done when I bought it & the Range Rover was done last year they both are silk smooth in operation, personally for what it costs it is worth it.
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Thanks all :y :y
I am now left wondering if I should have the gear box serviced or not given the various comments above. What is the official Vx recommendation please? What is the experienced gear box OOF’rs view on that?
I have no knowledge of what is right or wrong when it comes to gear boxes; never been trained in any aspect of them or touched them, apart from being a driver and knowing how to use them to the full! :D ;)
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A lot of companies advised "sealed for life" re gearboxes ,but everyone I know myself included notices much smoother action if oil & filter change is carried out, I had the Subaru done when I bought it & the Range Rover was done last year they both are silk smooth in operation, personally for what it costs it is worth it.
Thanks. :y
What can I expect to pay for this service please? ??? ;)
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Thanks all :y :y
I am now left wondering if I should have the gear box serviced or not given the various comments above. What is the official Vx recommendation please? What is the experienced gear box OOF’rs view on that?
I have no knowledge of what is right or wrong when it comes to gear boxes; never been trained in any aspect of them or touched them, apart from being a driver and knowing how to use them to the full! :D ;)
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A lot of companies advised "sealed for life" re gearboxes ,but everyone I know myself included notices much smoother action if oil & filter change is carried out, I had the Subaru done when I bought it & the Range Rover was done last year they both are silk smooth in operation, personally for what it costs it is worth it.
Thanks. :y
What can I expect to pay for this service please? ??? ;)
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The Range Rover was £279 .97 complete the filter kit on its own was £133 so oil & labour was around £146.
The Subaru was around £145 all in.
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That's pretty reasonable to keep your car on the road.
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Thanks all :y :y
I am now left wondering if I should have the gear box serviced or not given the various comments above. What is the official Vx recommendation please? What is the experienced gear box OOF’rs view on that?
I have no knowledge of what is right or wrong when it comes to gear boxes; never been trained in any aspect of them or touched them, apart from being a driver and knowing how to use them to the full! :D ;)
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A lot of companies advised "sealed for life" re gearboxes ,but everyone I know myself included notices much smoother action if oil & filter change is carried out, I had the Subaru done when I bought it & the Range Rover was done last year they both are silk smooth in operation, personally for what it costs it is worth it.
Thanks. :y
What can I expect to pay for this service please? ??? ;)
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The Range Rover was £279 .97 complete the filter kit on its own was £133 so oil & labour was around £146.
The Subaru was around £145 all in.
Thanks Rangie :y :y :y
With TC perhaps I will get it cheaper with Vx, although I agree with STEMO that your cost with a Range Rover is very reasonable to keep a car going, especially when I consider how much I have spent already on my Omega! ::) ::) :D :y
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Just spoken to my Vx dealers lead mechanic and he states that no routine maintenance plan exists for a gear box service on my Omega, or any other, and it should NOT be necessary unless a fault develops.
I think this confirms what a number of you have said or at least intermated :D :y :y
That's another few quid saved! ;D ;D :)
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I changed the oil and cleaned the filters in mine at 105,000 .. at the meet at the army base ....facilities were good, 4 post lift and a nice big collection tank :) The horrible smell and dark brown colour made me glad I did it. The car ran, until sold at 180,000, without a murmer from the gearbox.
IMHO if you have the facilities to do it/get it done at a reasonable cost it is worth doing. "Mechanical sympathy" is a phrase worth remembering when dealing with older cars.
The manufacturers don't tell you to service them as they don't actually want them to last that long !!
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Mercedes used to state the same as Vauxhall in that the gearboxes were sealed for life. They've since revised that and now say they should have an ATF & filter change at 37k miles.
An ATF on your Omega can only be a positive thing. I did my ATF change myself on my drive using filter & gasket from Dave ??? of the Autobahnstormers
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Less than £60 for the 2x 5L of dex 3 ATF plus new filter and some sealant for the sumps
and a DIY job ,pretty sure there's a guide :y
Vauxhall will say "no routine maintenance plan exists "because when your gearbox dies they can sell you a brand new £40k car
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Mercedes used to state the same as Vauxhall in that the gearboxes were sealed for life. They've since revised that and now say they should have an ATF & filter change at 37k miles.
An ATF on your Omega can only be a positive thing. I did my ATF change myself on my drive using filter & gasket from Dave ??? of the Autobahnstormers
They started that in the late '90s...prior to that, they were on the service schedule ;)
Ford suggested that the A4LD box fitted to the Granada and Sierra was sealed for life... Had it been serviced every 40k, then replacing it wouldn't have become an 80k miles item ::)
It's all about making the fleet costs lower ;)
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It's all about commonsense preventive maintenance, all oils deteoriate over time personally I would do it every 60,000 miles.
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I have this chap 15 minutes away, he'll be doing mine if and when it needs it.
http://autotransmissions.co.uk/home/
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I have this chap 15 minutes away, he'll be doing mine if and when it needs it.
http://autotransmissions.co.uk/home/
This place will be doing mine when it comes to it...
https://www.charlesmuddleltd.co.uk/ :D
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I want Gixer to be proud of me. Keeping my astra for more than three years. ;D
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Thanks for all the useful comments. Something for me to think about seriously now :y :y
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The filter can be washed out and re-used if you want to take that route.I bought a filter and gaskets for both sumps from ABS some years ago.Did it this way so I didn't have the hassle of waiting for the filter to dry/drying it quickly,so if there's a "next time" I can bolt in the original filter and good to go again.
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Just spoken to my Vx dealers lead mechanic and he states that no routine maintenance plan exists for a gear box service on my Omega, or any other, and it should NOT be necessary unless a fault develops.
I think this confirms what a number of you have said or at least intermated :D :y :y
That's another few quid saved! ;D ;D :)
You mean that main dealer 'mechanics' are mostly component changers working for a company that doesn't give a toss about the longevity of a vehicle beyond its warranty expiration?
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Just spoken to my Vx dealers lead mechanic and he states that no routine maintenance plan exists for a gear box service on my Omega, or any other, and it should NOT be necessary unless a fault develops.
I think this confirms what a number of you have said or at least intermated :D :y :y
That's another few quid saved! ;D ;D :)
You mean that main dealer 'mechanics' are mostly component changers working for a company that doesn't give a toss about the longevity of a vehicle beyond its warranty expiration?
Cynic.
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They started that in the late '90s...prior to that, they were on the service schedule ;)
Ford suggested that the A4LD box fitted to the Granada and Sierra was sealed for life... Had it been serviced every 40k, then replacing it wouldn't have become an 80k miles item ::)
It's all about making the fleet costs lower ;)
usual A4LD failure is the rear bearing housing breaking up, causing a complete loss of drive. That's a plastic part that was poorly specified, and isn't down to not changing the ATF.
Keeping to the 'lifetime' ATF is the major cause of the friction materials wearing out sooner than is acceptable; a £100 fluid and filter change every 80k miles is far better on the wallet than a replacement transmission which is robust enough to last the entire life of the car.