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Title: Terrorism
Post by: Raeturbo on 03 February 2020, 13:04:35
We seem to have found a good way of getting rid of terrorists, let them out early,  follow them, shoot them. I’m up for that👍👍👍
Title: Re: Terrorism
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 03 February 2020, 13:10:02
The Met certainly can't be accused of pissing around...  ;D
Title: Re: Terrorism
Post by: Raeturbo on 03 February 2020, 13:14:10
Yes, and not too soon either👍
Title: Re: Terrorism
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 03 February 2020, 13:26:27
Although one of the armed response drivers might be back on foot patrols this week. He drove his new BMW through a garden wall and totalled it, a mile before reaching the incident.
Title: Re: Terrorism
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 03 February 2020, 13:33:13
On the BBC it has been said the undercover police armed response unit was on top of the situation very quickly, within seconds, because this guy was under close surveillance. ;)

Many questions therefore will be asked............... :P :P

Title: Re: Terrorism
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 03 February 2020, 13:56:11
Fortunately, they aren't allowed to shoot people until they have just cause.

However, it is the nature of these nefarious types that they will certainly step out of line. No harm in being 'just around the corner' when they do ;)

The only negative is that for this to work, innocent people need to become victims first. It's a fine balance, but better than police being able to shoot on a whim...
Title: Re: Terrorism
Post by: Bigron on 03 February 2020, 15:44:04
You mean like they do in America, Doctor?

Ron.
Title: Re: Terrorism
Post by: STEMO on 03 February 2020, 15:57:49
You mean like they do in America, Doctor?

Ron.
Only if your a certain colour.
Title: Re: Terrorism
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 03 February 2020, 16:06:52
You mean like they do in America, Doctor?

Ron.
We don't have the right to bear arms, so the legal approach to armed police here is a very different one...

Open prejudice notwithstanding  ;)
Title: Re: Terrorism
Post by: Raeturbo on 03 February 2020, 16:16:39
Well it’s a good job they were ‘just around the corner’ or who knows how many more would have been injured/ maybe killed? Shooting him dead was the only and correct action imho, better him than innocent people.
Title: Re: Terrorism
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 03 February 2020, 16:52:01
If they had to monitor him so closely then he shouldn't have been let out!  >:(
Title: Re: Terrorism
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 03 February 2020, 17:11:21
If they had to monitor him so closely then he shouldn't have been let out!  >:(
Different issue, but a valid point...
Title: Re: Terrorism
Post by: Entwood on 03 February 2020, 17:29:00
If they had to monitor him so closely then he shouldn't have been let out!  >:(
Different issue, but a valid point...
Unfortunately the Labour Government set up the system to release all prisoners at the half-way point of their sentences... now if that was for financial or "luvy dovey" reasons I have no idea .. but the Courts, the Prison Service, and to a large extent, the Probation Service, have absolutely no way of changing it ... it is the Law.
Title: Re: Terrorism
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 03 February 2020, 17:31:20
If they had to monitor him so closely then he shouldn't have been let out!  >:(
Different issue, but a valid point...
Unfortunately the Labour Government set up the system to release all prisoners at the half-way point of their sentences... now if that was for financial or "luvy dovey" reasons I have no idea .. but the Courts, the Prison Service, and to a large extent, the Probation Service, have absolutely no way of changing it ... it is the Law.

The law is an arse!  ::)
Title: Re: Terrorism
Post by: Rangie on 03 February 2020, 17:32:23
Unfortunately they don't listen to the Prison Officers that deal with these people day in day out, they jump through all the hoops that are set for them whilst serving their sentence & off they go to offend again. Unless the people up top "grow a set" this type of incident will continue.
Title: Re: Terrorism
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 03 February 2020, 18:11:19
If they had to monitor him so closely then he shouldn't have been let out!  >:(
Different issue, but a valid point...
Unfortunately the Labour Government set up the system to release all prisoners at the half-way point of their sentences... now if that was for financial or "luvy dovey" reasons I have no idea .. but the Courts, the Prison Service, and to a large extent, the Probation Service, have absolutely no way of changing it ... it is the Law.

The law is an arse!  ::)

It is indeed, and soon to be changed I believe.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51364047
Title: Re: Terrorism
Post by: Rods2 on 03 February 2020, 18:41:09
Personally, I was very happy with pre-1997 UK society & didn't need to be culturally enhanced by Tony BLiar & Mandlescum with their mass migration from all corners of the globe which has IMV caused the current UK society's surge in violent crime, terrorist problems & northern cities pedophile grooming gangs drugging & raping young underage vulnerable girls. >:(

Most traditional UK organised crime gangs have been taken over or displaced by much more violent Eastern European gangs with the most violent of the lot from Albania controlling & running the UK sex trade which includes people trafficking. >:(
Title: Re: Terrorism
Post by: 78bex on 03 February 2020, 23:19:57
Overheard in my local chinky takeaway tonight while waiting for my order ......
"Ooh that was frightin wan`t it lovey, you know the police had to kill that terrorist chappy"
Ali who owns the shop ; "shootin is too good for those bastids"  :o
Title: Re: Terrorism
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 04 February 2020, 00:58:50
Overheard in my local chinky takeaway tonight while waiting for my order ......
"Ooh that was frightin wan`t it lovey, you know the police had to kill that terrorist chappy"
Ali who owns the shop ; "shootin is too good for those bastids"  :o

Ali the Chinky?  ???  That's proper multicultural that!  :y
Title: Re: Terrorism
Post by: aaronjb on 04 February 2020, 07:43:12
Overheard in my local chinky takeaway tonight while waiting for my order ......
"Ooh that was frightin wan`t it lovey, you know the police had to kill that terrorist chappy"
Ali who owns the shop ; "shootin is too good for those bastids"  :o

Ali the Chinky?  ???  That's proper multicultural that!  :y

Bet the local Indian is run by Mao.. ;D
Title: Re: Terrorism
Post by: Rangie on 04 February 2020, 08:07:22
If they had to monitor him so closely then he shouldn't have been let out!  >:(
Different issue, but a valid point...
Unfortunately the Labour Government set up the system to release all prisoners at the half-way point of their sentences... now if that was for financial or "luvy dovey" reasons I have no idea .. but the Courts, the Prison Service, and to a large extent, the Probation Service, have absolutely no way of changing it ... it is the Law.

The law is an arse!  ::)

It is indeed, and soon to be changed I believe.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51364047
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Still not enough, all terrorism crimes should carry a whole life sentence ( preferably the death sentence but it will never happen)
It is costing taxpayers an absolute fortune to look after these people & we are getting nowhere with them they will not be cured of their beliefs so either ship them out or get rid of them permanently.
Title: Re: Terrorism
Post by: hotel21 on 04 February 2020, 20:58:00
The unspoken question here is why was a 20+ handed team of police guns running 24/7 obs on a recently released crim?

Who happened to have terrorist inklings?.....

Pour encourage les outres?

Should they want to plays goodies and baddies on release?

....and, discuss......
Title: Re: Terrorism
Post by: biggriffin on 04 February 2020, 21:26:24
The unspoken question here is why was a 20+ handed team of police guns running 24/7 obs on a recently released crim?

Who happened to have terrorist inklings?.....

Pour encourage les outres?

Should they want to plays goodies and baddies on release?

....and, discuss......


 There's more covert units than that wandering around the country,
 When I was a boy mechinc down that London, there was 2 -4 black range rovers, 4.2L that would be around, 4 blokes in each, kitted out,  No markings,  not police trained, always on call,   Now due to the changes various motors are used, more of them, 2 per car, and motorcycles,  when called to act Police hats are worn, ,,, Remember the shooting of the bloke on the tube, similar unit.

There's different strings to law enforcement, and government agencies.
Title: Re: Terrorism
Post by: STEMO on 04 February 2020, 22:25:56
The unspoken question here is why was a 20+ handed team of police guns running 24/7 obs on a recently released crim?

Who happened to have terrorist inklings?.....

Pour encourage les outres?

Should they want to plays goodies and baddies on release?

....and, discuss......
I understand why they might want to send the message, Broocie, but I doubt very much that this would actually deter anyone who holds the firm belief that it is their duty to carry the fight to the streets of Britain, and that they will be rewarded for their actions in the afterlife.
Title: Re: Terrorism
Post by: aaronjb on 05 February 2020, 07:46:36
I understand why they might want to send the message, Broocie, but I doubt very much that this would actually deter anyone who holds the firm belief that it is their duty to carry the fight to the streets of Britain, and that they will be rewarded for their actions in the afterlife.

Deter, indeed. Encourage, more likely .. martyrdom awaits!
Title: Re: Terrorism
Post by: BazaJT on 05 February 2020, 08:07:07
How come all those that preach[of any religion]about how great it will be when you get to heaven never seem to be in a rush to get there themselves?
Title: Re: Terrorism
Post by: Rangie on 05 February 2020, 09:01:49
How come all those that preach[of any religion]about how great it will be when you get to heaven never seem to be in a rush to get there themselves?
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Because they are evil bastards , who don't deserve to breathe.
Title: Re: Terrorism
Post by: STEMO on 05 February 2020, 11:11:11
How come all those that preach[of any religion]about how great it will be when you get to heaven never seem to be in a rush to get there themselves?
Except terrorists.
Title: Re: Terrorism
Post by: STEMO on 05 February 2020, 11:32:00
In the latest two terror incidents, on London Bridge and in Streatham, the BBC referred to the suicide vests they were wearing as 'fake'. Not really. Both terrorists were definitely committing suicide by wearing them.  ::)
Title: Re: Terrorism
Post by: hotel21 on 05 February 2020, 13:49:28
The unspoken question here is why was a 20+ handed team of police guns running 24/7 obs on a recently released crim?

Who happened to have terrorist inklings?.....

Pour encourage les outres?

Should they want to plays goodies and baddies on release?

....and, discuss......


 There's more covert units than that wandering around the country,
 When I was a boy mechinc down that London, there was 2 -4 black range rovers, 4.2L that would be around, 4 blokes in each, kitted out,  No markings,  not police trained, always on call,   Now due to the changes various motors are used, more of them, 2 per car, and motorcycles,  when called to act Police hats are worn, ,,, Remember the shooting of the bloke on the tube, similar unit.

There's different strings to law enforcement, and government agencies.

I understand the numbers of covert units that are out and about.  I used to also carry and do such obs for more years than I care to remember, in a previous life.

My question is still, what makes the recently deceased worthy of such a unit on his tail?
Title: Re: Terrorism
Post by: henryd on 05 February 2020, 14:14:17
The unspoken question here is why was a 20+ handed team of police guns running 24/7 obs on a recently released crim?

Who happened to have terrorist inklings?.....

Pour encourage les outres?

Should they want to plays goodies and baddies on release?

....and, discuss......


 There's more covert units than that wandering around the country,
 When I was a boy mechinc down that London, there was 2 -4 black range rovers, 4.2L that would be around, 4 blokes in each, kitted out,  No markings,  not police trained, always on call,   Now due to the changes various motors are used, more of them, 2 per car, and motorcycles,  when called to act Police hats are worn, ,,, Remember the shooting of the bloke on the tube, similar unit.

There's different strings to law enforcement, and government agencies.

I understand the numbers of covert units that are out and about.  I used to also carry and do such obs for more years than I care to remember, in a previous life.

My question is still, what makes the recently deceased worthy of such a unit on his tail?

I can only assume police (or Higher) had good intel that he would lead them somewhere ???
Title: Re: Terrorism
Post by: Rangie on 05 February 2020, 14:37:39
The unspoken question here is why was a 20+ handed team of police guns running 24/7 obs on a recently released crim?

Who happened to have terrorist inklings?.....

Pour encourage les outres?

Should they want to plays goodies and baddies on release?

....and, discuss......


 There's more covert units than that wandering around the country,
 When I was a boy mechinc down that London, there was 2 -4 black range rovers, 4.2L that would be around, 4 blokes in each, kitted out,  No markings,  not police trained, always on call,   Now due to the changes various motors are used, more of them, 2 per car, and motorcycles,  when called to act Police hats are worn, ,,, Remember the shooting of the bloke on the tube, similar unit.

There's different strings to law enforcement, and government agencies.

I understand the numbers of covert units that are out and about.  I used to also carry and do such obs for more years than I care to remember, in a previous life.

My question is still, what makes the recently deceased worthy of such a unit on his tail?



Associations, who he is linked to /with he would have been part of a small piece of the jigsaw + intelligence from monitored phone calls whilst in prison contacts by mail & visits etc , the list would be never ending believe me.
Title: Re: Terrorism
Post by: Raeturbo on 06 February 2020, 21:31:59
Anyway good job they killed the scum before he killed one of us.
Title: Re: Terrorism
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 06 February 2020, 21:35:32
I don't disagree with the net result, but I do disagree with that attitude to it.

It isn't something to be celebrated.
Title: Re: Terrorism
Post by: Raeturbo on 06 February 2020, 21:42:08
On the contrary I think it is... sooner they learn better for all, but of course I would like to see less immigration, more stringent laws on who comes in, and a better way to deal with those terrorists in the first place, and after they’ve been locked up. Oh and I AM Spartacus.
Title: Re: Terrorism
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 07 February 2020, 01:14:03
It's got absolutely sweet Fanny Adams to do with immigration.

It's about not celebrating the effective suicide of religiously indoctrinated zombies.

They kill or terrorise us, they win. They die, they win. How they win doesn't matter.

Quietly disappearing them is the only way we come close to not losing, but it is a very steep, treacherous path.
Title: Re: Terrorism
Post by: Raeturbo on 07 February 2020, 09:55:19
True but necessary I fear.