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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Varche on 16 March 2020, 22:50:30
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Is it robust?
How long before it fails. The whole of Europe is whatsupping, video calling, netflicking, porn hubbing as well as “working from home”.
Cant go out and no internet! How would people manage ;D
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Families might to actually talk and interact with each other :D Heaven forbid ::)
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I signed up to Twitter recently out of curiosity and after seeing some of utterly vile shite people post, it wouldn't be a bad thing if we went back to telegrams and carrier pigeons to be honest! ::)
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Families might to actually talk and interact with each other :D Heaven forbid ::)
Er .. that's precisely what we're trying to stop, remember.
But yes, Varche, the Internet is very robust. The things you describe are not the Internet, however, just services running on it and they all have a limit of capacity. Rest assured, there will be teams of people adding capacity continuously, just as there always are.. until we're all dead, of course.
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Gesundheit :D
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I've replaced saying "bless you" with shouting "COVID-19!" every time someone sneezes .. or coughs.
My OH doesn't think it's funny...
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Families might to actually talk and interact with each other :D Heaven forbid ::)
Our Wi-Fi wasn't working last night so I sat & chatted to the Mrs for a change.
I'm surprised to hear she no longer works at Woolworths. ;D ;D ;D
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Families might to actually talk and interact with each other :D Heaven forbid ::)
Er .. that's precisely what we're trying to stop, remember.
But yes, Varche, the Internet is very robust. The things you describe are not the Internet, however, just services running on it and they all have a limit of capacity. Rest assured, there will be teams of people adding capacity continuously, just as there always are.. until we're all dead, of course.
Look on the bright side. A long undisturbed kip has much going for it. :y
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Look on the bright side. A long undisturbed kip has much going for it. :y
Alright, Eric Idle.. ;D
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How would we cope with not 'living in interesting times'? ::)
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Facebook should be turned off.
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Is it robust?
How long before it fails. The whole of Europe is whatsupping, video calling, netflicking, porn hubbing as well as “working from home”.
WTF are you smoking?
This is just more scare mongering by idiots posting (incorrect) fact on the likes of Arsebook. And like mail chains, is designed to get people to spread it by adding an element of fear and panic.
If you check the publicly available stats, you will see none of that has any significant impact on traffic levels, and get nowhere near the average evening peaks when people watch an after tea film on a streaming service, or update the latest game on their Xbox.
And as a network, the Internet is pretty robust - you get the occasional BGP route advertisement problem, but this is usually quickly noticed and rectified. Loading on individual services can cause that service to degrade, but the biggest conferencing system, Cisco's Webex, is coping well globally.
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Facebook should be turned off.
I see Firefox are recommending that you install a special Arsebook sandbox to try to limit the amount of damage Arsebook is going.
Facebook is utterly despicable, and will do all they can to sell your private data, no matter what settings to do. Also, remember anything you mark as private on Facebook is essentially public.
I saw a tool developed in house by one of our security teams, where, using standard Facebook APIs, it can retrieve all the personal details and posts, private or public, of them, and all their "friends", and all their "friends", and all their "friends" and so on. It has always been known that Facebook is desperately insecure, but that was an eye opener, that within seconds, it could get all this privately marked info.
The best thing anyone can do with an Arsebook account, including WhatsApp, is to change all the private info, then "delete" the account (it won't actually delete, just mark it)
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Is it robust?
How long before it fails. The whole of Europe is whatsupping, video calling, netflicking, porn hubbing as well as “working from home”.
WTF are you smoking?
This is just more scare mongering by idiots posting (incorrect) fact on the likes of Arsebook. And like mail chains, is designed to get people to spread it by adding an element of fear and panic.
If you check the publicly available stats, you will see none of that has any significant impact on traffic levels, and get nowhere near the average evening peaks when people watch an after tea film on a streaming service, or update the latest game on their Xbox.
And as a network, the Internet is pretty robust - you get the occasional BGP route advertisement problem, but this is usually quickly noticed and rectified. Loading on individual services can cause that service to degrade, but the biggest conferencing system, Cisco's Webex, is coping well globally.
Good to know. I only asked in innocence.
Talked with my nephew tonight. He starts working from home tomorrow including video conferencing. One plus from this CV19 is employers might just like saving office space and trusting their staff to work from home going forward. Might just reduce pollution and traffic jams for a while.
Why wouldnt people self isolating be watching films during the day? What else are average people confined to their houses going to do? This being confined hasnt really happened in the UK yet.
Cant remember where I saw it but there was a meme of a builder working from home. He was sat by the phone ready with his mixer. I immediately thought of our Dave the Builder.
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Cant remember where I saw it but there was a meme of a builder working from home. He was sat by the phone ready with his mixer. I immediately thought of our Dave the Builder.
I've seen that meme ;D
i'm not a bricklayer
I rarely fire up the mixer these days
today i......
did some shopping, visiting (delivering to relatives)
diagnosed a "no hot water" problem
fixed an Ariel for poor reception on a roof
did some plasterboarding at home
I can lay bricks , but if it's lots of bricks ,i call a bricklayer friend ,he's much faster /better/cheaper at bricks :)
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Can you wait ten?
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Keep calm & carry on.
The travel & travel insurance is dead for up to 12 months.
Had a good meeting today discussing good insurance alternatives & where car insurance is a legal must will start exploring this later today as a new product line.
Economic & health survivors grind out results & I've done both with 2008 being an economic nightmare & 2015 being a health one but I fight to survive hard & will always die hard when needs must. :y :y :y
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One plus from this CV19 is employers might just like saving office space and trusting their staff to work from home going forward
My boss had to call me this morning, to check that I had no issues with the enforced WFH that has been implemented. He was laughing, saying he was forced to by personnel as a box ticking exercise...
...after all, he knows I've been in my actual office about a dozen times since last June ;D
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Why wouldnt people self isolating be watching films during the day? What else are average people confined to their houses going to do? This being confined hasnt really happened in the UK yet.
A bit of Netflix or iPlayer will have little impact on the Internet, apart from maybe some of the niche ISPs with limited peering capacity, although even these ISPs already have to cope with evening peaks. And currently, so far this week, daytime traffic levels are significantly lower than the evening peaks on a normal day (pre hysteria, non match days, non new Apple update, non Red Dead Redemption 2 update etc).
The school closures will have more of an impact, as kids make extensive use of gayTube, and apart for the odd viral vid, no real deterministic pattern, making caching a problem.
But the reality is, even if self isolation would cause the same peak levels as the evening peaks (probably not), the additional working from home traffic, probably would not be enough to exhaust the additional safety barrier capacity that most ISPs have.
The big web conferencing companies have presence on most continents, and are well connected to peering points. Same applies to video streaming services such as Netflix, Amazon, Sky, BT TV, youtube and so on. Same applies to the cloud provides from the likes of Microsoft (Azure, and Office365), Amazon (AWS and S3), Google etc. So that dramatically reduces strain on the intercontinental routes.
The bigger ISPs will have one or more of these services either at their chosen peering points, or even at the point their customers are terminated at.
BT last week (pre the current even heightened hysteria) publicly reported a new record of 17.5Tb/s across its ISP network due to the aforementioned Red Dead Redemption 2 update. Considering the sheer number of (several million) customers - its by far the biggest ISP in the UK - that 17Tb is quite low when you think about it. If you did the maths on that, dividing the bandwidth by the number of connected users (a figure I don't think is public), it averages out to each line being almost idle.
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About that closing schools bit, wifey will be in every day and will have to forgo her Easter holidays, as will quite a few teachers. The children of NHS staff, police, delivery drivers, etc. are still coming in, and wifey and others will be making packed lunches for the free school meal kids to pick up.
Closed but not really.
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Granddaughter was sent home this morning as she was coughing. She is a head of year at a school in Reading. Seems the head of PE has tested positive for it. Why can,t i say Wok ing ham ?
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Reading, a throwback to Gixer, IIRC.
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Why can,t i say Wok ing ham ?
Because its really Reading. Certain ex members used to like to think it was not Reading, but you know damn well it was Reading, don't you Mr Gixer ;D
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Are the schools doing or planning doing distance learning .?
Some Spanish schools are. I can i agine a parent sitting in to make sure the child isnt distracted and to be able to help with the mountain of homework
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Why can,t i say Wok ing ham ?
Because its really Reading. Certain ex members used to like to think it was not Reading, but you know damn well it was Reading, don't you Mr Gixer ;D
He's Not in Brackers either ;D
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Why can,t i say Wok ing ham ?
Because its really Reading. Certain ex members used to like to think it was not Reading, but you know damn well it was Reading, don't you Mr Gixer ;D
He's Not in Brackers either ;D
Damn right, we don't allow any ol' riffraff in, except for (the now defunct) Tiffins ;D
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My brother today said that Netflix have reduced the picture quality.
Seems You Tube have too to stop Internet from breaking.
Who would have thought.
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My brother today said that Netflix have reduced the picture quality.
Seems You Tube have too to stop Internet from breaking.
Who would have thought.
Isnt Gen from the IT Crowd looking after the internet in that black box with the flashing light on it? ;D
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My brother today said that Netflix have reduced the picture quality.
Seems You Tube have too to stop Internet from breaking.
Who would have thought.
Netflix are indeed in the process of reducing the bitrate of their streams, though likely to be several days before Europe significantly gets the lower bitrates.
This is just one of the many, many, many things ISPs and "Internet companies" can and will do.
As it happens, it will have no impact on larger ISPs, who will have the most popular content served from their own networks, or at their peering points. It may help some of the smaller, niche ISPs.
But, FFS, stop being so gullible, and believing everything on Arsebook groups. The Internet isn't going to break. Well, not unless somebody simultaneously ploughed the bed of the Atlantic, the Med and the Indian Ocean to rip up all the cables. Your sources are all talking utter 'dangle berries'.
Yes, ISPs, Cloud providers, transit providers and so on are all working to add in additional capacity, but thats more to retain resilience than "its all going to break"
>:(
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Calm down, you will bust abloodvessel.
It was a reasonable question and based not on social media but my own view of what might happen when people carry out their activities from home 24/7.
I invested in an Amazon firestick to take advantage of my free trial of Amazon Prime. Despite my dad having “ decent BT internet” i have noticed two things. First is a sometimes degradation of picture and the dreaded buffering. The streetcab is right outside the house.
I agree that the Internet will cope
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1.30 p.m. buffering then playing low quality then buffering.
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Buy a book or something :-X
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Calm down, you will bust abloodvessel.
It was a reasonable question and based not on social media but my own view of what might happen when people carry out their activities from home 24/7.
I invested in an Amazon firestick to take advantage of my free trial of Amazon Prime. Despite my dad having “ decent BT internet” i have noticed two things. First is a sometimes degradation of picture and the dreaded buffering. The streetcab is right outside the house.
I agree that the Internet will cope
Not on Netflix, Sky or popular Youtube clips ;)