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Title: 2.6 Oil Sump - gasket or not?
Post by: grifter on 02 April 2020, 11:43:05
I've read there is no gasket for the sump on the 2.6 so got the appropriate sealer -  93165267. Having a look at diagram this morning it certainly looks like there is a gasket, for the bottom pan and the top plate as well? Can anyone confirm as I want to take both the sump and the upper plate off to seal as I have leak. Diagram here shows gasket no 17 for top, and 26 for bottom pan.

https://opel.7zap.com/en/car/v94/e/4/25-0/

Title: Re: 2.6 Oil Sump - gasket or not?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 02 April 2020, 12:22:09
It left the factory with no gasket on either.
Title: Re: 2.6 Oil Sump - gasket or not?
Post by: grifter on 02 April 2020, 17:29:28
Yes defo no gasket, i've just removed it, also slid a bit of sealer up the side of the upper pan where it seems to be leaking, cleaned it all out, sprayed some brake cleaner to remove deposits and applied sealer, the proper stuff.

Also anyone know the torque settings for the sump, imagining around low teens 15nm or similar?
Title: Re: 2.6 Oil Sump - gasket or not?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 02 April 2020, 17:41:44
It's in Haynes ;)

Waste of time doing that to the upper seal.

Better off lifting the engine six inches and resealing it properly as per the lower sump... Although, it's not my car ;D
Title: Re: 2.6 Oil Sump - gasket or not?
Post by: grifter on 02 April 2020, 18:02:00
It's in Haynes ;)

Waste of time doing that to the upper seal.

Better off lifting the engine six inches and resealing it properly as per the lower sump... Although, it's not my car ;D

I would love to do it right given I had more time, it's not a terrible leak, just a sweat. Mainly wanted to get sump off, clean it out, fix dent, paint it and check the pick up, which was spotless.

Don't have haynes for omega so will just have to go with low teens NM.
Title: Re: 2.6 Oil Sump - gasket or not?
Post by: grifter on 25 April 2020, 13:41:13
Loandbehold the leak on top sump is now cured, no need to strip it all off.
Title: Re: 2.6 Oil Sump - gasket or not?
Post by: Andy H on 26 April 2020, 12:43:13
Yes defo no gasket, i've just removed it, also slid a bit of sealer up the side of the upper pan where it seems to be leaking, cleaned it all out, sprayed some brake cleaner to remove deposits and applied sealer, the proper stuff.

Also anyone know the torque settings for the sump, imagining around low teens 15nm or similar?
Pretty much all the 6mm bolts screwed into aluminium will be 8Nm

Any more and you will soon have an opinion on whether you prefer Helicoil or Timesert  ::)
Title: Re: 2.6 Oil Sump - gasket or not?
Post by: johnnydog on 26 April 2020, 13:12:05
This is when the ability of 'feel' is an advantage :y
Title: Re: 2.6 Oil Sump - gasket or not?
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 26 April 2020, 14:38:16
I will be taking the sump of mine soon to clean the oil strainer. Any particular sealant recommended for the join, or just generic gasket goo ?
Title: Re: 2.6 Oil Sump - gasket or not?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 26 April 2020, 15:25:06
Grey goo rather than black if using the GM stuff :y

Starter for 10...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SAPPHIRE-4X4-ESCORT-COSWORTH-SUMP-GASKET-SEALANT-BY-ELRING-70ML-GREY-/123925145159

Victor Reinz available from £7.95, but black ;)
Title: Re: 2.6 Oil Sump - gasket or not?
Post by: grifter on 28 April 2020, 12:25:16
Any recommendations for the oil filler pump to use when filling gearbox, going to acquire one?
Title: Re: 2.6 Oil Sump - gasket or not?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 28 April 2020, 12:37:39
Hozelok if you're feeling flush...

Otherwise any generic garden weed sprayer should do :y

Should be mention of it in the guide...
Title: Re: 2.6 Oil Sump - gasket or not?
Post by: grifter on 28 April 2020, 12:57:08
Hozelok if you're feeling flush...

Otherwise any generic garden weed sprayer should do :y

Should be mention of it in the guide...

Straight to B&Q then and wait in the socially distanced queue!
Title: Re: 2.6 Oil Sump - gasket or not?
Post by: Andy B on 28 April 2020, 14:11:02
Any recommendations for the oil filler pump to use when filling gearbox, going to acquire one?

I ran a tube through the engine bay into the gearbox fill/level hole and filled it from there using a funnel .... worked very well.  :y
Title: Re: 2.6 Oil Sump - gasket or not?
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 28 April 2020, 14:26:17
I do the same. A bit time consuming, but works well enough.
Title: Re: 2.6 Oil Sump - gasket or not?
Post by: johnnydog on 28 April 2020, 18:02:00
Many years ago, I inherited an aluminium oil filler syringe type, with a T shaped plunge handle, and a flexible nozzle. Its quite old, but they are still available in various forms, either plastic or aluminium. They can be filled by sucking the fluid out of the supplying container into the syringe, or by removing the cap and plunger / handle end of the of the syringe and then filling. That way is a bit messy - I just ensure it is clean from any remaining fluid from the last job, and then suck it out of the container into the syringe and fill the gearbox / diff or whatever. I can't remember the capacity, but it holds probably between 500ml and 1000ml.
Makes easy work of filling or topping up gearboxes, especially if the filler hole is quite high up with a chassis rail or other gubbins in the way that prevents you getting a squeezy type of oil filler bottle high enough to get any thing out of it.
The syringe ones are available on Ebay, Halfords or all decent motor factors for little money. The other plus is that it avoids oil trickling down your arm.... :y