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Title: Just popped the telly box on...
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 04 April 2020, 17:46:07
... Hoping to catch the daily doom report. Presented instead with Pointless Celebrities.

Switched over to YouTube thinking never has something been so appropriately titled...  ;D

Title: Re: Just popped the telly box on...
Post by: Rangie on 04 April 2020, 17:55:28
Another 708 deaths apparently over 800 was the expected toll.
Title: Re: Just popped the telly box on...
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 04 April 2020, 18:00:08
The numbers are still only a third of Rods Armageddon prediction.  :-X
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Post by: dave the builder on 04 April 2020, 18:20:32
The numbers are still only a third of Rods Armageddon prediction.  :-X
To quote Karen "We've Only Just Begun " (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__VQX2Xn7tI)
musical interlude  :P :-X ;D :D
Title: Re: Just popped the telly box on...
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 04 April 2020, 19:17:08
I think it would be helpful if they compared the daily death rate with last years.   :y

So they could say " 2308 people died in the UK today 708 of those were directly caused by Covid-19, compared to 1600 deaths on 4th April 2019."

Because I wonder how many of the 708 would have died today anyway or their demise was imminent.  :-\
Title: Re: Just popped the telly box on...
Post by: STEMO on 04 April 2020, 19:27:58
I think it would be helpful if they compared the daily death rate with last years.   :y

So they could say " 2308 people died in the UK today 708 of those were directly caused by Covid-19, compared to 1600 deaths on 4th April 2019."

Because I wonder how many of the 708 would have died today anyway or their demise was imminent.  :-\
I wish they'd include the deaths that weren't in hospital. We really have no idea of the actual death toll from covid-19.
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Post by: STEMO on 04 April 2020, 19:29:34
13 have died in one care home in Glasgow.
Title: Re: Just popped the telly box on...
Post by: STEMO on 04 April 2020, 19:31:20
And are other countries just reporting deaths in hospital or people who have died away from hospital?
Title: Re: Just popped the telly box on...
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 04 April 2020, 19:34:45
I think it would be helpful if they compared the daily death rate with last years.   :y

So they could say " 2308 people died in the UK today 708 of those were directly caused by Covid-19, compared to 1600 deaths on 4th April 2019."

Because I wonder how many of the 708 would have died today anyway or their demise was imminent.  :-\
I wish they'd include the deaths that weren't in hospital. We really have no idea of the actual death toll from covid-19.

Apparently that was changed last week with the figures now including virus deaths from other places, not just hospitals. ;)
Title: Re: Just popped the telly box on...
Post by: dave the builder on 04 April 2020, 19:36:46
The figures are a few days behind before  published so not "Died today" really
No one knows who would have died anyway from each days total but, if you could say for sure , i doubt it would skew the numbers much
who knows how many people have died in self isolation , not yet found
or died ,not from covid 19 but lack of food or meds etc
if estimates are correct and 5% of the UK have it ,and the NHS is struggling now ,then staying home is pretty important
I personally think anyone out shopping etc SHOULD wear a mask , to protect others if nothing else ,
official advice says it lives on hard surfaces for 72 hours, heat and cold won't kill it BUT mail should be safe  :o


Title: Re: Just popped the telly box on...
Post by: STEMO on 04 April 2020, 19:37:11
I think it would be helpful if they compared the daily death rate with last years.   :y

So they could say " 2308 people died in the UK today 708 of those were directly caused by Covid-19, compared to 1600 deaths on 4th April 2019."

Because I wonder how many of the 708 would have died today anyway or their demise was imminent.  :-\
I wish they'd include the deaths that weren't in hospital. We really have no idea of the actual death toll from covid-19.

Apparently that was changed last week with the figures now including virus deaths from other places, not just hospitals. ;)
I don't think so, Lizzie. Up until Thursday they were still saying deaths within hospital. I'll have google.
Title: Re: Just popped the telly box on...
Post by: STEMO on 04 April 2020, 19:38:42
You're right, Lizzie, Tuesday.

Every Tuesday the statistics authority will provide a backdated weekly count of all suspected coronavirus deaths of people who have died in their homes, care homes or hospices, which will be published in a combined form with the figures drawn from the daily death toll announced by the NHS in England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. The figures will be backdated to the previous week, starting with the week ending 20 March. It will include the ages of the people who died and give a regional breakdown.
Title: Re: Just popped the telly box on...
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 04 April 2020, 19:41:05
I think it would be helpful if they compared the daily death rate with last years.   :y

So they could say " 2308 people died in the UK today 708 of those were directly caused by Covid-19, compared to 1600 deaths on 4th April 2019."

Because I wonder how many of the 708 would have died today anyway or their demise was imminent.  :-\

I believe myself that, quite correctly, the Goverment are keeping the public’s focus on just the virus deaths to ensure we really take them seriously and never become complacent.

If they started to show the virus deaths alongside the usual yearly death toll from flue of 17-20,000, and then in context of the annual death rate for the UK of 616,000+ (2018) then it would devalue their message and put everyone at greater risk from people being ‘too casual’ about the situation.

That is my belief anyway.  Our Government is using propaganda as they do in war time, as at war we are ;)
Title: Re: Just popped the telly box on...
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 04 April 2020, 19:42:44
There's been zero change to the recovered number, still 135 apparently  ???
Title: Re: Just popped the telly box on...
Post by: Rangie on 04 April 2020, 19:43:27
We were talking over our dinner tonight , saying how normal everything seems in our home apart from the restrictions that are in place, whilst in our hospitals it must be nearing total chaos God knows how the staff cope day after day. Regarding the numbers reported today they announced them a lot earlier so probably not entirely accurate. Stay safe everybody.
Title: Re: Just popped the telly box on...
Post by: STEMO on 04 April 2020, 19:46:15
We were talking over our dinner tonight , saying how normal everything seems in our home apart from the restrictions that are in place, whilst in our hospitals it must be nearing total chaos God knows how the staff cope day after day. Regarding the numbers reported today they announced them a lot earlier so probably not entirely accurate. Stay safe everybody.
We've started watching less and less of it on tv. The first week it was on our telly every waking hour, just trying to watch the main bulletins now. It grinds you down.
Title: Re: Just popped the telly box on...
Post by: Rangie on 04 April 2020, 19:53:47
We were talking over our dinner tonight , saying how normal everything seems in our home apart from the restrictions that are in place, whilst in our hospitals it must be nearing total chaos God knows how the staff cope day after day. Regarding the numbers reported today they announced them a lot earlier so probably not entirely accurate. Stay safe everybody.
We've started watching less and less of it on tv. The first week it was on our telly every waking hour, just trying to watch the main bulletins now. It grinds you down.
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You're so right , in the morning when I first wake up I really wonder if it is all a bad dream , you hear so many different opinions about the virus it makes me wonder if anyone actually has any idea about it at all, worry about my daughter & son in law with 4 boys who have to obviously go shopping regularly putting themselves at god knows what risks it's a truly awful situation for us all. Anyhow Rambo film on tonight he'd know what to do..😃
Title: Re: Just popped the telly box on...
Post by: STEMO on 04 April 2020, 19:57:50
It's the wife I'm worried about. Apart from going into school the stupid cow conscientious person she is goes out delivering the free school meals that the lazy bastard parents can't be arsed to come and pick up for the kids.
Title: Re: Just popped the telly box on...
Post by: Rangie on 04 April 2020, 20:03:44
It's the wife I'm worried about. Apart from going into school the stupid cow conscientious person she is goes out delivering the free school meals that the lazy bastard parents can't be arsed to come and pick up for the kids.


A worrying time for us all Stemo but respect to your other half carrying on , but have the same sentiments about lazy parents.
Title: Re: Just popped the telly box on...
Post by: BazaJT on 04 April 2020, 20:14:34
My step granddaughter or her partner go to the school to pick up the lunch provided for their youngest daughter,their elder daughter[who being severely disabled normally attends a different school]apparently doesn't qualify for this provision as they could still pack her off to school for the day but have decided not to risk doing so.
Title: Re: Just popped the telly box on...
Post by: dave the builder on 04 April 2020, 20:21:52
It's the wife I'm worried about. Apart from going into school the stupid cow conscientious person she is goes out delivering the free school meals that the lazy bastard parents can't be arsed to come and pick up for the kids.

Blimey
so not key worker's kids lunches , she should be able to farm all those deliveries out to Borris's helpers
I would say you could do it Uncle Stemo ,but
 if the families are on free school meals then their houses are probably not worth casing ,let alone robbing  :-\
Title: Re: Just popped the telly box on...
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 04 April 2020, 20:37:37
It's the wife I'm worried about. Apart from going into school the stupid cow conscientious person she is goes out delivering the free school meals that the lazy bastard parents can't be arsed to come and pick up for the kids.

Blimey
so not key worker's kids lunches , she should be able to farm all those deliveries out to Borris's helpers
I would say you could do it Uncle Stemo ,but
if the families are on free school meals then their houses are probably not worth casing ,let alone robbing  :-\

No, there will be no nice leather sofas, 60" tellies, ipads, laptops, iphones etc at all....  :-X
Title: Re: Just popped the telly box on...
Post by: dave the builder on 04 April 2020, 20:45:04
It's the wife I'm worried about. Apart from going into school the stupid cow conscientious person she is goes out delivering the free school meals that the lazy bastard parents can't be arsed to come and pick up for the kids.

Blimey
so not key worker's kids lunches , she should be able to farm all those deliveries out to Borris's helpers
I would say you could do it Uncle Stemo ,but
if the families are on free school meals then their houses are probably not worth casing ,let alone robbing  :-\

No, there will be no nice leather sofas, 60" tellies, ipads, laptops, iphones etc at all....  :-X

MMMM....  ::)
actually ,some may have better stuff than us , and now brighthouse has gone tits up ,probably won't need to pay for it  ;D :D
Title: Re: Just popped the telly box on...
Post by: biggriffin on 05 April 2020, 12:13:44
 That beanz bloke is on, the Smithsonian channel.. :)
Title: Re: Just popped the telly box on...
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 05 April 2020, 12:50:33
I think it would be helpful if they compared the daily death rate with last years.   :y

So they could say " 2308 people died in the UK today 708 of those were directly caused by Covid-19, compared to 1600 deaths on 4th April 2019."

Because I wonder how many of the 708 would have died today anyway or their demise was imminent.  :-\

Many.

Apparently the average number of deaths each year from Flu in the UK is 17000.
Title: Re: Just popped the telly box on...
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 05 April 2020, 13:06:50
I think it would be helpful if they compared the daily death rate with last years.   :y

So they could say " 2308 people died in the UK today 708 of those were directly caused by Covid-19, compared to 1600 deaths on 4th April 2019."

Because I wonder how many of the 708 would have died today anyway or their demise was imminent.  :-\

Many.

Apparently the average number of deaths each year from Flu in the UK is 17000.

There is an echo here Opti....see my post #12 :P :P ;D ;D ;D ;)
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Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 05 April 2020, 13:11:37
I think it would be helpful if they compared the daily death rate with last years.   :y

So they could say " 2308 people died in the UK today 708 of those were directly caused by Covid-19, compared to 1600 deaths on 4th April 2019."

Because I wonder how many of the 708 would have died today anyway or their demise was imminent.  :-\

Many.

Apparently the average number of deaths each year from Flu in the UK is 17000.

There is an echo here Opti....see my post #12 :P :P ;D ;D ;D ;)

I do apologise for stealing your thunder sweetie....... :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Just popped the telly box on...
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 05 April 2020, 13:42:40
I think it would be helpful if they compared the daily death rate with last years.   :y

So they could say " 2308 people died in the UK today 708 of those were directly caused by Covid-19, compared to 1600 deaths on 4th April 2019."

Because I wonder how many of the 708 would have died today anyway or their demise was imminent.  :-\

Many.

Apparently the average number of deaths each year from Flu in the UK is 17000.

There is an echo here Opti....see my post #12 :P :P ;D ;D ;D ;)

I do apologise for stealing your thunder sweetie....... :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

That's ok Opti :-* :-* :D :D ;)
Title: Re: Just popped the telly box on...
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 05 April 2020, 13:44:12
I think it would be helpful if they compared the daily death rate with last years.   :y

So they could say " 2308 people died in the UK today 708 of those were directly caused by Covid-19, compared to 1600 deaths on 4th April 2019."

Because I wonder how many of the 708 would have died today anyway or their demise was imminent.  :-\

Many.

Apparently the average number of deaths each year from Flu in the UK is 17000.

There is an echo here Opti....see my post #12 :P :P ;D ;D ;D ;)

I do apologise for stealing your thunder sweetie....... :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

That's ok Opti :-* :-* :D :D ;)

I shall stand in the corner wearing a large pointy hat with a capital D on it. :-\ :D ;D :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Just popped the telly box on...
Post by: dave the builder on 05 April 2020, 14:13:33

I shall stand in the corner wearing a large pointy hat with a capital D on it. :-\ :D ;D :-* :-* :-*

Not lending you MY hat Opti
social distancing and all that  ::)
Title: Re: Just popped the telly box on...
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 05 April 2020, 14:19:37

I shall stand in the corner wearing a large pointy hat with a capital D on it. :-\ :D ;D :-* :-* :-*

Not lending you MY hat Opti
social distancing and all that  ::)

Perhaps I should drive down to Kent and make it up to lizzie, personally. :)
Title: Re: Just popped the telly box on...
Post by: dave the builder on 05 April 2020, 14:28:45

I shall stand in the corner wearing a large pointy hat with a capital D on it. :-\ :D ;D :-* :-* :-*

Not lending you MY hat Opti
social distancing and all that  ::)

Perhaps I should drive down to Kent and make it up to lizzie, personally. :)
Cycle down to Kent in your 1 hour exercise allowance  :y
though you may spread the Chinese Virus back to turnip country when you go home  :-\
you could infect your whole harem  :o
a good way to refresh the stock with new nubile ladies ,out with the old,in with the new
your call  ;)
 
Title: Re: Just popped the telly box on...
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 05 April 2020, 16:01:17

I shall stand in the corner wearing a large pointy hat with a capital D on it. :-\ :D ;D :-* :-* :-*

Not lending you MY hat Opti
social distancing and all that  ::)

Perhaps I should drive down to Kent and make it up to lizzie, personally. :)

 ;D ;D ;D ;)