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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: dave.h on 20 April 2020, 21:23:47

Title: Dumb Ass Question - Engine Oil
Post by: dave.h on 20 April 2020, 21:23:47
Can I use fully synthetic Mobil Super 1000 X1 in my 2.2 Petrol?

Can't get part synthetic for love nor money around here.

Cheers
Title: Re: Dumb Ass Question - Engine Oil
Post by: dave the builder on 20 April 2020, 21:41:32
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fanfaro-TSX-20L-Semi-Synthetic-Engine-Oil-10W-40-501-01-505-00-SL-CF-MB229-1/303135413735?hash=item46944755e7:g:YqUAAOSw~BFcwWfa   (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fanfaro-TSX-20L-Semi-Synthetic-Engine-Oil-10W-40-501-01-505-00-SL-CF-MB229-1/303135413735?hash=item46944755e7:g:YqUAAOSw~BFcwWfa)

   
£23.37 for 20 Litres delivered  :o

or trade club has gone up to £47 with delivery

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/20LTR-DRUM-10W40-ENGINE-OIL-new-VAUXHALL-GENUINE-SEMI-SYNTHETIC-PETROL-DIESEL/253266803486   (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/20LTR-DRUM-10W40-ENGINE-OIL-new-VAUXHALL-GENUINE-SEMI-SYNTHETIC-PETROL-DIESEL/253266803486)
Title: Re: Dumb Ass Question - Engine Oil
Post by: TheBoy on 21 April 2020, 17:47:04
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fanfaro-TSX-20L-Semi-Synthetic-Engine-Oil-10W-40-501-01-505-00-SL-CF-MB229-1/303135413735?hash=item46944755e7:g:YqUAAOSw~BFcwWfa   (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fanfaro-TSX-20L-Semi-Synthetic-Engine-Oil-10W-40-501-01-505-00-SL-CF-MB229-1/303135413735?hash=item46944755e7:g:YqUAAOSw~BFcwWfa)

   
£23.37 for 20 Litres delivered  :o

or trade club has gone up to £47 with delivery

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/20LTR-DRUM-10W40-ENGINE-OIL-new-VAUXHALL-GENUINE-SEMI-SYNTHETIC-PETROL-DIESEL/253266803486   (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/20LTR-DRUM-10W40-ENGINE-OIL-new-VAUXHALL-GENUINE-SEMI-SYNTHETIC-PETROL-DIESEL/253266803486)
But ebay is always the most expensive place for anything.  Much like some camera cables I needed, £9 from the tat site, or £2.99 direct from camera maker.

£24.99 for 20l of semi, assuming TC vans are still running.
Title: Re: Dumb Ass Question - Engine Oil
Post by: dave the builder on 21 April 2020, 18:18:24
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fanfaro-TSX-20L-Semi-Synthetic-Engine-Oil-10W-40-501-01-505-00-SL-CF-MB229-1/303135413735?hash=item46944755e7:g:YqUAAOSw~BFcwWfa   (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fanfaro-TSX-20L-Semi-Synthetic-Engine-Oil-10W-40-501-01-505-00-SL-CF-MB229-1/303135413735?hash=item46944755e7:g:YqUAAOSw~BFcwWfa)

   
£23.37 for 20 Litres delivered  :o

or trade club has gone up to £47 with delivery

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/20LTR-DRUM-10W40-ENGINE-OIL-new-VAUXHALL-GENUINE-SEMI-SYNTHETIC-PETROL-DIESEL/253266803486   (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/20LTR-DRUM-10W40-ENGINE-OIL-new-VAUXHALL-GENUINE-SEMI-SYNTHETIC-PETROL-DIESEL/253266803486)
But ebay is always the most expensive place for anything.  Much like some camera cables I needed, £9 from the tat site, or £2.99 direct from camera maker.

£24.99 for 20l of semi, assuming TC vans are still running.
I ordered from my first link last night ,text from DHL today, delivery tomorrow (with tracking link)
£23.37 for 20 Litres = £1.17 per litre

same seller is shipping 20L Mannol Premium 5w30 Fully Synthetic Long Life Engine Oil Low Saps C3 SN/CF  (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/20L-Mannol-Premium-5w30-Fully-Synthetic-Long-Life-Engine-Oil-Low-Saps-C3-SN-CF/303155251811?_trkparms=aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D225114%26meid%3Db464f7cb79c044e7ab34f1a29e417f90%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D6%26rkt%3D12%26mehot%3Dsb%26sd%3D303135750102%26itm%3D303155251811%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DSimplAMLv5PairwiseWebWithBBEV1Demotion&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851) for £35.69

what's not to like  ;D :D
still have TC semi to stick in the omega ,which needs doing too
Title: Re: Dumb Ass Question - Engine Oil
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 21 April 2020, 18:30:21
Still waiting for Don't Handle Logistics to collect an item from Peterborough. First attempt was 'closed', second attempt was 'refused'...  ::)  Almost makes YodellyYoohoo look competent  :-X
Title: Re: Dumb Ass Question - Engine Oil
Post by: dave the builder on 21 April 2020, 18:44:46
Still waiting for Don't Handle Logistics to collect an item from Peterborough. First attempt was 'closed', second attempt was 'refused'...  ::)  Almost makes YodellyYoohoo look competent  :-X
yes DG , they tried and failed to deliver something for someone in flats down the road to us earlier
not the first time either
same number and street but address includes the flats block name
hopefully my oil don't get delivered down the road  ;D :D
Title: Re: Dumb Ass Question - Engine Oil
Post by: STEMO on 21 April 2020, 18:45:06
Still waiting for Don't Handle Logistics to collect an item from Peterborough. First attempt was 'closed', second attempt was 'refused'...  ::)  Almost makes YodellyYoohoo look competent  :-X
Have they changed their name from Drop it Hide it Lose it?
Title: Re: Dumb Ass Question - Engine Oil
Post by: TheBoy on 21 April 2020, 18:58:27
Still waiting for Don't Handle Logistics to collect an item from Peterborough. First attempt was 'closed', second attempt was 'refused'...  ::)  Almost makes YodellyYoohoo look competent  :-X
There is of course a possibility that the sender is pissing them around ;).  Not that I have much good to say about couriers though...   ...but I have even less faith in ebay/marketplace type sellers.
Title: Re: Dumb Ass Question - Engine Oil
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 21 April 2020, 19:16:40
Need some oil myself soon. Is VX TC still operational ? Havent used it for so long Ive lost the website login, and don't even know if I have a local dealer still in the scheme.
Title: Re: Dumb Ass Question - Engine Oil
Post by: dave the builder on 21 April 2020, 19:20:01
Need some oil myself soon. Is VX TC still operational ? Havent used it for so long Ive lost the website login, and don't even know if I have a local dealer still in the scheme.
all the Vaux dealers round my area don't recognize trade-club anymore and haven't for years ,
i tend to just say trade cash sale on the few occasions i have to visit vaux stealers
Title: Re: Dumb Ass Question - Engine Oil
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 21 April 2020, 19:26:18
Still waiting for Don't Handle Logistics to collect an item from Peterborough. First attempt was 'closed', second attempt was 'refused'...  ::)  Almost makes YodellyYoohoo look competent  :-X
There is of course a possibility that the sender is pissing them around ;).  Not that I have much good to say about couriers though...   ...but I have even less faith in ebay/marketplace type sellers.
Refused is courier code for CBA/too busy without upsetting the service figures. When I worked at TNT I knew certain drivers that would scan all the private address deliveries as 'Not Home' on their way to their first (commercial) drop. This meant that when they did OT on Saturday that they had three times as many drops for their delivery bonus... Sod the person who waited in all day Wednesday :-X
Title: Re: Dumb Ass Question - Engine Oil
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 21 April 2020, 19:47:08
Poor lazy management then. They shouldn't have the opportunity to do things like that and should be sacked if caught trying to.
Title: Re: Dumb Ass Question - Engine Oil
Post by: biggriffin on 21 April 2020, 19:56:30
Still waiting for Don't Handle Logistics to collect an item from Peterborough. First attempt was 'closed', second attempt was 'refused'...  ::)  Almost makes YodellyYoohoo look competent  :-X
Have they changed their name from Drop it Hide it Lose it?


 No still the same shower,  it's still secricor, then secricor Omega logistics,then DHL, same management pointy shoe'd numbtys, only difference it's owned by the Third Reich.
Title: Re: Dumb Ass Question - Engine Oil
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 21 April 2020, 20:38:06
Poor lazy management then. They shouldn't have the opportunity to do things like that and should be sacked if caught trying to.
Good luck sacking third party contractors ;D
Title: Re: Dumb Ass Question - Engine Oil
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 21 April 2020, 21:23:00
That's easy. Walk them to the door and tell them to far cough.
Title: Re: Dumb Ass Question - Engine Oil
Post by: dave.h on 21 April 2020, 22:28:51
Still waiting for Don't Handle Logistics to collect an item from Peterborough. First attempt was 'closed', second attempt was 'refused'...  ::)  Almost makes YodellyYoohoo look competent  :-X

I ordered parts yesterday and paid for Parcelforce 24H delivery - their estimate is Friday according to the tracking service!

Why do they take the money and not deliver (no pun intended) I'd understand if they said we can only do 3/4/5 days and give the opportunity to pay for that service rather than take the money for a service they can't give you.
Title: Re: Dumb Ass Question - Engine Oil
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 21 April 2020, 23:51:28
Part of it is timing... Most don't despatch until the payment has cleared, then, if they miss the collection cut off, they it's day three before the consignment is collected.

For guaranteed next day, you have to use UPS or TNT. Post Office/Parcel Force are OK, but next day isn't a given even if you pay for it. Even moreso with the current goings on...
Title: Re: Dumb Ass Question - Engine Oil
Post by: johnnydog on 22 April 2020, 00:22:21
I regularly use TNT for long parcels over 1m.
Their collection is spot on, and if booked upto lunchtime collection is the same day. They also deliver the next working day. Definitely the best service from a courier I have experienced. Very impressed and I can't recommend them enough.
Parcel Force on the other hand.....
Title: Re: Dumb Ass Question - Engine Oil
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 22 April 2020, 08:27:02
TNT or UPS are my goto choices, although I will use RM, if only for convenience.  :y
Title: Re: Dumb Ass Question - Engine Oil
Post by: dave.h on 22 April 2020, 10:44:40
Part of it is timing... Most don't despatch until the payment has cleared, then, if they miss the collection cut off, they it's day three before the consignment is collected.

For guaranteed next day, you have to use UPS or TNT. Post Office/Parcel Force are OK, but next day isn't a given even if you pay for it. Even moreso with the current goings on...

Well as you say - in current circumstances all bets are off but - whilst their estimate was Friday, both parcels arrived this morning so I am more than happy to eat humble pie over that one as in the end, they did do a good job in spite of the virus and lockdown.
Title: Re: Dumb Ass Question - Engine Oil
Post by: dave the builder on 22 April 2020, 12:38:22
My 10w40 ,ordered Monday at 10.30 PM arrived today Wednesday 12.15 PM ,so less than 48 hours

CORRESPONDS WITH REQUIREMENTS / SPECIFICATIONS / PRODUCTS:

SAE 10W-40
API SL/CF (matches trade club 710 spec)
VW 501.01/505.00
MB 229.1

£23.37 for 20 Litres delivered within 48 hours from Ebay
   :)

 clicky link  (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fanfaro-TSX-20L-Semi-Synthetic-Engine-Oil-10W-40-501-01-505-00-SL-CF-MB229-1-/303135413735)

Title: Re: Dumb Ass Question - Engine Oil
Post by: Enceladus on 23 April 2020, 17:18:23
Can I use fully synthetic Mobil Super 1000 X1 in my 2.2 Petrol?

Can't get part synthetic for love nor money around here.

Cheers
Might be wrong but Mobil Super 1000 X1 seems to be 15W-40 mineral oil. IE not fully synthetic.

Anyway I would advise against putting fully synthetic oil in an old Omega, unless you have a bullet service history that shows the car has been run on it for years and you intend to do big mileage every year. The car will just develop oil leaks. Use 10W-40 semi-synthetic and change it every 5000 miles or at least once per annum, even if low mileage.
Title: Re: Dumb Ass Question - Engine Oil
Post by: johnnydog on 24 April 2020, 10:52:31
When I got my 3.2 Estate, the service history showed it had been serviced every year with S/Synthetic 10w/40 oil. I had a few litres of Fully Synthetic 10w/30 oil in (genuine VX), so I thought I'd treat it to that. Big mistake - it started showing areas of oil misting, so I drained it off and replaced it with what it had been used to - 10 40 semi synthetic, and the oil misting disappeared.
A VX mechanic I know stated a few years ago that they used to get this issue quite regularly, especially if a vehicle had been serviced elsewhere, and the previous oil grade wasn't known. If they had any doubt as to the previous grade of oil used, they used to just use 10/40 Semi to be on the safe side.
Title: Re: Dumb Ass Question - Engine Oil
Post by: biggriffin on 24 April 2020, 12:54:14
When I got my 3.2 Estate, the service history showed it had been serviced every year with S/Synthetic 10w/40 oil. I had a few litres of Fully Synthetic 10w/30 oil in (genuine VX), so I thought I'd treat it to that. Big mistake - it started showing areas of oil misting, so I drained it off and replaced it with what it had been used to - 10 40 semi synthetic, and the oil misting disappeared.
A VX mechanic I know stated a few years ago that they used to get this issue quite regularly, especially if a vehicle had been serviced elsewhere, and the previous oil grade wasn't known. If they had any doubt as to the previous grade of oil used, they used to just use 10/40 Semi to be on the safe side.


 I used 5w30 fully sympathy in my 3.2,, no issues,
Title: Re: Dumb Ass Question - Engine Oil
Post by: johnnydog on 24 April 2020, 18:55:54
When I got my 3.2 Estate, the service history showed it had been serviced every year with S/Synthetic 10w/40 oil. I had a few litres of Fully Synthetic 10w/30 oil in (genuine VX), so I thought I'd treat it to that. Big mistake - it started showing areas of oil misting, so I drained it off and replaced it with what it had been used to - 10 40 semi synthetic, and the oil misting disappeared.
A VX mechanic I know stated a few years ago that they used to get this issue quite regularly, especially if a vehicle had been serviced elsewhere, and the previous oil grade wasn't known. If they had any doubt as to the previous grade of oil used, they used to just use 10/40 Semi to be on the safe side.


 I used 5w30 fully sympathy in my 3.2,, no issues,

The point is that if they have always been run on 10/40 semi synthetic oil, you are better off sticking to that - if they have previously been run on the thinner fully synthetic then that's fine. It seems that if you switch to fully synthetic after years of using semi, that's when minor leaks may occur.
And as that was a confirmed experience of an older generation VX mechanic, there must be some substance in it.
Title: Re: Dumb Ass Question - Engine Oil
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 24 April 2020, 19:07:55
I tried my ex plod on 5w30 when my local dealer had it on offer. Leaked like a sieve  ;D 10w40 had no such issues, before or after.

The Vectra fleet on the other hand, only got 5w30 and were all leak free...
Title: Re: Dumb Ass Question - Engine Oil
Post by: TheBoy on 25 April 2020, 10:32:30
Need some oil myself soon. Is VX TC still operational ? Havent used it for so long Ive lost the website login, and don't even know if I have a local dealer still in the scheme.
all the Vaux dealers round my area don't recognize trade-club anymore and haven't for years ,
i tend to just say trade cash sale on the few occasions i have to visit vaux stealers
TC is always cheaper than trade. Plus has the benefits of free delivery, usually same day.
Title: Re: Dumb Ass Question - Engine Oil
Post by: TheBoy on 25 April 2020, 10:42:00
TNT or UPS are my goto choices, although I will use RM, if only for convenience.  :y
I think they all vary regionally.  For example, Herpes, DHL and DPD are normally pretty good here, as is RM (not withstanding an undelivered "fast and free" from egay 2 weeks ago - though given other stuff is arriving quick, I think we know reality ;))

I know its going to be different contracts with large businesses, but Cisco use TNT to deliver me replacement parts, and DHL to collect the faulty ones.  These are always on time the next day, as long as it comes from within the EU.  Cisco kit always seems to get hung up in customs if coming from further afield.

Can't remember who other server vendors use, as their stuff never goes wrong, just bloody Cisco.
Title: Re: Dumb Ass Question - Engine Oil
Post by: Enceladus on 26 April 2020, 00:02:16
Anything here is delayed. ebay items sent Royal Mail take more than a week. I don't believe it's the ebay vendors, it seems to be Royal Mail as ordinary post is also badly delayed.

In addition three out of four of the nearest Post Offices seem to be mostly closed. If that's a typical scenario then probably folks are struggling to physically post stuff.

A UPS package from Sweden due last Tuesday wasn't delivered until Friday afternoon, with no explanation for the delay. We could see from the tracking that it was at the local depot Monday night.

I guess we just have to live with it, nothing to be gained by complaining.
Title: Re: Dumb Ass Question - Engine Oil
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 26 April 2020, 00:04:54
You are in the arse end of nowhere though ;)