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Title: Extension lead
Post by: pauls on 23 May 2020, 20:21:09
I need a extension lead for a new tumble dryer, only need about 1 metre would a standard 13amp one do or will i need a heavy duty one.

Asking due to the fact i came home tonight to find the old extension socket end had melted itself to the dryer plug. I had to pry them apart with a screwdriver. Its been working fine for the last 3 years.
 Wife refuses to use the dryer again. Hense going to have to buy a new one.
Title: Re: Extension lead
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 23 May 2020, 21:26:29
Ours used to do that. Uprated it to cooker wire and no further issues, although we no longer use the washer and dryer simultaneously...
Title: Re: Extension lead
Post by: pauls on 23 May 2020, 21:31:38
I ve just cut the plug off the dryer and put a new one on. It still works so just need a new lead so i can put the dryer back in place :y
Title: Re: Extension lead
Post by: dave the builder on 23 May 2020, 22:28:39
It;s down to a high resistance "hot spot" due to a poor connection in the plug or socket ,some cheap fuses also get hot for this reason .

buy a decent Branded (eg ,MK or Crabtree) plug and socket ,
 and ensure the wires are well terminated ,terminals are tight  :y

it's a very common problem

quite often see a wall socket with scorch marks round the positive hole

Avoid MK "essentials range" made in China and garbage 

Title: Re: Extension lead
Post by: Entwood on 23 May 2020, 22:51:20
I need a extension lead for a new tumble dryer, only need about 1 metre would a standard 13amp one do or will i need a heavy duty one.

Asking due to the fact i came home tonight to find the old extension socket end had melted itself to the dryer plug. I had to pry them apart with a screwdriver. Its been working fine for the last 3 years.
 Wife refuses to use the dryer again. Hense going to have to buy a new one.


Nowt wrong with the drier ....  lots wrong with the plug/extension socket .... :)
Title: Re: Extension lead
Post by: Viral_Jim on 24 May 2020, 02:15:14
A regular one should suffice if it's in good condition. I charge the milk float using a regular old Wickes extension cable (fused and with overload protection). That draws 2.5kw for 8-10 hours at a time without issue.

Nothing with a standard 3pin plug should be drawing more than 13a.
Title: Re: Extension lead
Post by: cam.in.head on 24 May 2020, 10:39:59
as dave says above.  some cheap crappy extension leads have very poor contact to the plug when it goes in .good ones may well have a good guage sprung metal on either side of the pin ,cheap ones tent to just have a single bit of bent metal which eventually loses tension and contact.
didnt know that about MK dave ,thanks for that they used to be quality stuff.
Title: Re: Extension lead
Post by: dave the builder on 24 May 2020, 11:04:50
MK logic plus second fix is still good quality  :) I've used MK for years ,I keep stock of Logic plus ,
Crabtree I order in for jobs to match what's fitted ,
pet hate of mine is miss-matched brands of second fix   ;D

It's just the China made "essentials" range is substandard ,surprised it was not rejected by MK quality control  :o

John Ward Youtube compares MK  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osbADF3sOHU)
Title: Re: Extension lead
Post by: Kevin Wood on 24 May 2020, 11:35:29
Also worth mentioning that extension leads with cable reels need to be fully extended in order to safely use the maximum current rating.

Best thing to do here is to get a quality lead that's rated at 13 A and preferably no longer than needed, or buy a decent quality plug and socket (as said, proper MK stuff  perhaps) and some 1.25 or 1.5 mm2 flex and make a lead up yourself that's the right length.
Title: Re: Extension lead
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 24 May 2020, 12:08:33
I am surprised no one has mentioned it, but why not  instal a fixed spur; 2.5 cable to a wall mounted socket connected to the rear of the existing outlet.  But personally I would extend the ring mains to instal a full double socket.

Extensions, due to the high risk of fire or contact with water if laying on a kitchen floor especially, should always be avoided if possible.

Now I understand not everyone for sure possesses the essential skills and knowledge to do the correct installation to regs., so if you have not, engage an electrician to do a proper job ;)

No more worries then about burning down the house! :o :o ::) ::) :D :D :)
Title: Re: Extension lead
Post by: dave the builder on 24 May 2020, 12:57:04


No more worries then about burning down the house! :o :o ::) ::) :D :D :)
Depends on the make of the dryer  ;D  :-X 

as for altering the fixed wiring , to include a fused connection unit ,it depends on many location specific factors

plus ,this is OOF , it might be connected to an old wylex re-wirable fuse box from 50 years ago ,so bigger problems to be had  ;D


Title: Re: Extension lead
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 24 May 2020, 13:45:22


No more worries then about burning down the house! :o :o ::) ::) :D :D :)
Depends on the make of the dryer  ;D  :-X 

as for altering the fixed wiring , to include a fused connection unit ,it depends on many location specific factors

plus ,this is OOF , it might be connected to an old wylex re-wirable fuse box from 50 years ago ,so bigger problems to be had  ;D

Oh yes Dave, I have encountered a lot of prehistoric fuse boxes in my time, and I know some still exist!! ::) ::)

Tight buggers some people!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)

Still, it used to be fun re-wiring the old fuses after searching for the card with it wrapped around it!  Too easy now,! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Extension lead
Post by: Andy B on 24 May 2020, 13:52:40
....
Still, it used to be fun re-wiring the old fuses after searching for the card with it wrapped around it!   ....
.. in the dark!  ;D
Title: Re: Extension lead
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 24 May 2020, 14:36:20


No more worries then about burning down the house! :o :o ::) ::) :D :D :)
Depends on the make of the dryer  ;D  :-X 

as for altering the fixed wiring , to include a fused connection unit ,it depends on many location specific factors

plus ,this is OOF , it might be connected to an old wylex re-wirable fuse box from 50 years ago and mounted on an asbestos board ,so bigger problems to be had  ;D
Fixed...  :-X
Title: Re: Extension lead
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 24 May 2020, 15:20:46
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Still, it used to be fun re-wiring the old fuses after searching for the card with it wrapped around it!   ....
.. in the dark!  ;D

Yeah, but in those days under the stairs I could feel my way around a box with maybe just 4 fuses!! ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Extension lead
Post by: dave the builder on 24 May 2020, 15:31:54


No more worries then about burning down the house! :o :o ::) ::) :D :D :)
Depends on the make of the dryer  ;D  :-X 

as for altering the fixed wiring , to include a fused connection unit ,it depends on many location specific factors

plus ,this is OOF , it might be connected to an old wylex re-wirable fuse box from 50 years ago and mounted on an asbestos board ,so bigger problems to be had  ;D
Fixed...  :-X
Fireproof then  :)
but if your removing ALL asbestos time for a rewire and new consumer unit with residual current ,over current and surge protection  :)

so ,as well as the paddling pool to bath in ,bucket to go toilet in , you will need a candle (light,cooking,heating)  ;D
Title: Re: Extension lead
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 24 May 2020, 15:43:43
You jest...
Title: Re: Extension lead
Post by: TheBoy on 24 May 2020, 19:11:38
Its not really recommended to run high power devices through extension leads, as a permenent fixture.

I tumble dryer will be 2.5-3kw, and as you have already found out, easily capable of melting stuff.  Then, unnoticed, thats how fires start.
Title: Re: Extension lead
Post by: Andy B on 24 May 2020, 19:55:42
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.  Then, unnoticed, thats how fires start.

You sound like you've had practical experience ......  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Extension lead
Post by: STEMO on 24 May 2020, 20:08:36
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.  Then, unnoticed, thats how fires start.

You sound like you've had practical experience ......  ::) ::) ::)
;D ;D ;D