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Title: Smoke Detectors
Post by: Broomies Mate on 07 June 2020, 04:53:05
I've become increasingly annoyed with my current smoke detectors.

I live in a two bedroom apartment, circa 2008 build.

I have two, one mounted in the kitchen, and one in the hallway  They are mains powered and are linked.

Currently, they have a baseplate wired as such;

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I would like to replace them both, as they are not only old, but not really fit for purpose. 

Ideally, the Kitchen one would be replaced with a Heat Alarm, and a more conventional Smoke Alarm in the hallway.

Any advice on this please?
Title: Re: Smoke Detectors
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 07 June 2020, 10:39:03
I've become increasingly annoyed with my current smoke detectors.

I live in a two bedroom apartment, circa 2008 build.

I have two, one mounted in the kitchen, and one in the hallway  They are mains powered and are linked.

Currently, they have a baseplate wired as such;

N  IC  L
|   ||   |

I would like to replace them both, as they are not only old, but not really fit for purpose. 

Ideally, the Kitchen one would be replaced with a Heat Alarm, and a more conventional Smoke Alarm in the hallway.

Any advice on this please?

I have only known of carbon monoxide alarms being fitted in kitchens.   Are you sure you need a "Heat Alarm" in your kitchen?  Will it not be triggered every time you cook anything and the heat builds up.  My alarm is in the hall, up from the kitchen, so if something becomes over cooked in the kitchen, spreading heat and smoke above 'normal' levels, then the alarm activates.  ;)
Title: Re: Smoke Detectors
Post by: Kevin Wood on 07 June 2020, 11:59:54
I have three Aico EI161E alarms which link together using the same wiring scheme as you describe. Been very happy with them. Not a single false alarm.

They replaced another set of Aico alarms which were trouble free for 20 years. They don't last forever, though, so maybe it's time to just swap to some new ones?

You can get several different sensor types in that range and mix and match them, so no problem with getting a heat sensor for the kitchen.
Title: Re: Smoke Detectors
Post by: jonathanh on 07 June 2020, 22:17:42
As above fit aico; heat alarm for kitchen and smoke for other one. Look on toolstation website.  Let me know if you want me to suggest specific models/items
Title: Re: Smoke Detectors
Post by: Broomies Mate on 07 June 2020, 22:40:32
Thank you for the advice chaps and chapesses.

I've got in my basket, (Toolstation)

1no.  Aico Optical 10 Year Lithium Battery Smoke Alarm Ei650 Stand Alone Alarm - (46324)
1no.  Aico 10 Year Lithium Battery Heat Alarm Ei603 Stand Alone Alarm - (14156)


Before I purchase, is this what you guys would recommend?

Obvisouly, the Heat Alarm would be in the Kitchen, and the Optical Alarm would be in the Hallway.  Any pro's and con's of Ionisation vs Optical?

Thanks again!  :y
Title: Re: Smoke Detectors
Post by: Broomies Mate on 07 June 2020, 22:42:43
I have only known of carbon monoxide alarms being fitted in kitchens.   Are you sure you need a "Heat Alarm" in your kitchen?  Will it not be triggered every time you cook anything and the heat builds up.  My alarm is in the hall, up from the kitchen, so if something becomes over cooked in the kitchen, spreading heat and smoke above 'normal' levels, then the alarm activates.  ;)

It's the recommendation (possibly regs?) Lizzie.  Heat Alarms only trigger at ~60C, whereas the pesky smoke alarm I have at present will trigger as soon as I make decent toast (I don't burn everything, honest).
Title: Re: Smoke Detectors
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 08 June 2020, 12:08:30
Thank you for the advice chaps and chapesses.

I've got in my basket, (Toolstation)

1no.  Aico Optical 10 Year Lithium Battery Smoke Alarm Ei650 Stand Alone Alarm - (46324)
1no.  Aico 10 Year Lithium Battery Heat Alarm Ei603 Stand Alone Alarm - (14156)


Before I purchase, is this what you guys would recommend?

Obvisouly, the Heat Alarm would be in the Kitchen, and the Optical Alarm would be in the Hallway.  Any pro's and con's of Ionisation vs Optical?

Thanks again!  :y

I think you need the Ei3 series (mains powered with battery backup and link) and not the Ei6 (battery powered with link on some models)
Title: Re: Smoke Detectors
Post by: STEMO on 08 June 2020, 12:24:50
And as the mains wiring is already there....... :y
Title: Re: Smoke Detectors
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 08 June 2020, 17:59:36
I have only known of carbon monoxide alarms being fitted in kitchens.   Are you sure you need a "Heat Alarm" in your kitchen?  Will it not be triggered every time you cook anything and the heat builds up.  My alarm is in the hall, up from the kitchen, so if something becomes over cooked in the kitchen, spreading heat and smoke above 'normal' levels, then the alarm activates.  ;)

It's the recommendation (possibly regs?) Lizzie.  Heat Alarms only trigger at ~60C, whereas the pesky smoke alarm I have at present will trigger as soon as I make decent toast (I don't burn everything, honest).

Ah, thanks, that's interesting :y :y
Title: Re: Smoke Detectors
Post by: TheBoy on 08 June 2020, 18:38:33
Last time our fire alarm went off was due to her setting fire to the appliance that makes meals.  Flames everywhere.

Women, need shooting.
Title: Re: Smoke Detectors
Post by: jonathanh on 08 June 2020, 19:58:47
Toolstation items

69457 and 49808. Mains powered and should utilise the interconnect too