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Title: Automatrics trackers
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 24 November 2020, 22:08:28
http://www.trackersecurity.co.uk/index.html

Anyone ever had/used them?

Better/worse than Tracker and the like?
Title: Re: Automatrics trackers
Post by: Entwood on 24 November 2020, 22:28:19
Never heard of them .. but I've used

https://hal-locate.co.uk/hal-locate-tracker/

for well over 10 years now, and still very happy with both the product and the service - on the latter - when I got the new phone, samsung s10e, it all worked straight away, no messing, then samsung did a massive update and it all just stopped, no way could I get it to work, and this was on a site 140 miles from home as we were about to leave on the sunday, and I could NOT disarm it ...... Contacted the company and ended up with a techies personal mobile number and after about a bit of faffing he turned it off for me. When I got home I had to phone him ... he re-armed it to cover the insurance agreement. Over the next week he phoned me 5 times with suggestions, none of which worked, and also advised that I was not the only one with the problem ...  on the Friday Samsung did another update and it started working again !!

So, the problem was nowt to do with the company, as proved by the system working for his phone, but all down to samsung, however he continued to try and fix a problem that was not his... that I consider to be excellent customer service.
Title: Re: Automatrics trackers
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 24 November 2020, 22:42:34
Ta :y

Presumably that is wired in :-\
Title: Re: Automatrics trackers
Post by: Entwood on 24 November 2020, 23:23:08
Ta :y

Presumably that is wired in :-\

It has its own internal battery but is wired in for that to be automatically recharged. Controlled (arm/disarm/locate) by text from mobile phone, automatically arms if the vehicle is stationary for 2 hours. If the vehicle moves whilst armed after hitting a preset "geo-circle" it sends a text to the mobile (just incase you forgot to disarm it).. if the vehicle continues to move and breaches an "outer geo-circle" then the tracking station is automatically notified and their process begins ... I think that is all described on the web site
Title: Re: Automatrics trackers
Post by: dave the builder on 25 November 2020, 11:55:19
I've got a version of THIS (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GPS-TRACKER-VEHICLE-CAR-VAN-FLEET-AUTO-CAR-TRACKING-DEVICE-iTrack-GPS303G/153114662900?epid=2297703962&hash=item23a65857f4:g:b9kAAOSwKLVbXx~t) mine's an "Accurate GPS Tracker GT06"
O2 network classic tariff 1p,2p,3p sim card (2 top ups of £10 per year ) and pretty good network coverage

plenty of similar kits on ebay,

clicky  (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GT06-GPS-GSM-GPRS-Vehicle-Motorcycle-Car-Tracking-Device-Anti-theft-SMS/373351082095?hash=item56ed75686f:g:ekMAAOSwyPhftS4x) £21.56 if you have time to wait for delivery. some as cheap as £17 odd   :-\

clicky cheap uk 3G version auction   (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sino-Track-gps-car-vehicle-tracking-device-tracker-3G/154208180190?hash=item23e78617de:g:U~0AAOSwmx9fp81j)

Nick found a nifty little relay module one like this clicky  (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CJ720GPS-Vehicle-Car-Truck-Tracking-Relay-GPS-Tracker-Device-GSM-Locator-Remote/184220601396?_trkparms=aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20200520130048%26meid%3Dc8094f375b5244428a021a73e5a1af43%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D12%26rkt%3D12%26mehot%3Dco%26sd%3D233698444008%26itm%3D184220601396%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DSimplAMLv5PairwiseWebWithDarwoV3BBEV2b&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851)
no seperate antenna though ,so good positioning in the car would be vital  :-\

Title: Re: Automatrics trackers
Post by: Nick W on 25 November 2020, 13:02:32

Nick found a nifty little relay module one like this clicky  (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CJ720GPS-Vehicle-Car-Truck-Tracking-Relay-GPS-Tracker-Device-GSM-Locator-Remote/184220601396?_trkparms=aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20200520130048%26meid%3Dc8094f375b5244428a021a73e5a1af43%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D12%26rkt%3D12%26mehot%3Dco%26sd%3D233698444008%26itm%3D184220601396%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DSimplAMLv5PairwiseWebWithDarwoV3BBEV2b&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851)
no separate antenna though ,so good positioning in the car would be vital  :-\


You'd be surprised; Ian has it mounted on the boot floor, near the tank. Even with a wooden sub floor above it, he can use his phone app to tell the car is still in the garage. It's basically a cut down cell phone so it works the same, by combining both the GPS and the phone signal.


It's discreet so any thief would have to know it's fitted
Title: Re: Automatrics trackers
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 25 November 2020, 14:06:25
They are a piece of piss to get round for any thief who partially knows what they are doing, does deter the less intelligent ones though  :y

GNSS can work through a reasonable thickness of steel/glass reasonably well, ideally it needs dead reckoning to be any good though. Triangulation only works at network level and needs the operators cooperation (as the device does not know the location of the base stations so its impossible to reverse calc its location).

Title: Re: Automatrics trackers
Post by: Nick W on 25 November 2020, 14:28:56
They are a piece of piss to get round for any thief who partially knows what they are doing, does deter the less intelligent ones though  :y



Just pulling it out its mounting base will do that.


But you've got to know it's fitted, and where it is.


For £15 and a cheap SIM card, it's well worth having.
Title: Re: Automatrics trackers
Post by: Entwood on 25 November 2020, 15:04:04
They are a piece of piss to get round for any thief who partially knows what they are doing, does deter the less intelligent ones though  :y



Just pulling it out its mounting base will do that.


But you've got to know it's fitted, and where it is.


For £15 and a cheap SIM card, it's well worth having.

Who cares where its fitted if you have one of these ??

https://www.jammer4uk.com/product/6-band-handheld-3g-4glte-wimax-phone-jammer-and-wifi-with-band-control-switch

OK, its illegal to use in the UK, but does the thief really care?? he's already breaking enough laws and can recover the cost of this device on one vehicle theft.
Title: Re: Automatrics trackers
Post by: Shackeng on 25 November 2020, 19:16:16
Ta :y

Presumably that is wired in :-\

It has its own internal battery but is wired in for that to be automatically recharged. Controlled (arm/disarm/locate) by text from mobile phone, automatically arms if the vehicle is stationary for 2 hours. If the vehicle moves whilst armed after hitting a preset "geo-circle" it sends a text to the mobile (just incase you forgot to disarm it).. if the vehicle continues to move and breaches an "outer geo-circle" then the tracking station is automatically notified and their process begins ... I think that is all described on the web site

An ideal powersounder replacement.  ::)
Title: Re: Automatrics trackers
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 25 November 2020, 21:13:04
They are a piece of piss to get round for any thief who partially knows what they are doing, does deter the less intelligent ones though  :y



Just pulling it out its mounting base will do that.


But you've got to know it's fitted, and where it is.


For £15 and a cheap SIM card, it's well worth having.

Finding if they are fitted and where they are is the easy bit  :y
Title: Re: Automatrics trackers
Post by: Nick W on 25 November 2020, 22:07:28
Realistically, you're never going to stop a determined thief, as they can lift the whole car and be away with it in a couple of minutes.


This sort of gadget gives you some warning that somebody is trying, and that you might be able to find the car if they're not particularly competent
Title: Re: Automatrics trackers
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 26 November 2020, 07:58:54
They are so easy to sort, give the car a shake so it wakes up and activates its GNSS receiver, listen for the clock frequency and home in on its location, then either jam it or dispose of it.

Title: Re: Automatrics trackers
Post by: dave the builder on 26 November 2020, 08:41:54
That may be what the serious criminals do ,stealing high value cars
Mines a 53 plate omega  ;D the contents of the boot are often worth far more than the car  ;D
the tracker cost peanuts ,in the event of an opportunist thief jumping in and driving off, or i was car-jacked etc ,the remote disable could prove useful ,as could finding the car if i get forgetful in my old age and can't remember where i left it  ;D 
Title: Re: Automatrics trackers
Post by: Shackeng on 26 November 2020, 09:31:55
That may be what the serious criminals do ,stealing high value cars
Mines a 53 plate omega  ;D the contents of the boot are often worth far more than the car  ;D
the tracker cost peanuts ,in the event of an opportunist thief jumping in and driving off, or i was car-jacked etc ,the remote disable could prove useful ,as could finding the car if i get forgetful in my old age and can't remember where i left it  ;D

 :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Automatrics trackers
Post by: dave the builder on 26 November 2020, 09:44:05
...... ,as could finding the car if i get forgetful in my old age and can't remember where i left it  ;D

 :-[ :-[ :-[

you sold your Omega a few days ago. remember  ;)
 :D ;D
Title: Re: Automatrics trackers
Post by: Shackeng on 26 November 2020, 13:03:08
...... ,as could finding the car if i get forgetful in my old age and can't remember where i left it  ;D

 :-[ :-[ :-[

you sold your Omega a few days ago. remember  ;)
 :D ;D

Oh bugger. :-X