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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: Sir Tigger KC on 14 December 2020, 22:10:57
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This 2009 Land Rover Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2009-Land-Rover-Discovery-4-TDV6-XS-245-BHP-3-0-TURBO-DIESEL-AUTOMATIC-4X4-7-SEA/324399334510?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D225076%26meid%3D3ea62fada7014102a943574b88bcf52e%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D15%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D293897549632%26itm%3D324399334510%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057&_trksid=p2380057.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3A5568afaa-3e4d-11eb-a806-16c4269e7a17%7Cparentrq%3A6300752a1760a9ca2dc021befff5d928%7Ciid%3A1) has a misfire on start up but apparently runs OK when it's warmed up. :-\
A quick search came up with these possibilities: Dirty MAF sensor, knackered battery, duff injectors, duff glow plugs, too much super market fuel. Although all these suggestions were for the Disco 3 2.7TDV6 where it seems a common issue with those, I'd have thought not much difference to the Disco 4's 3.0TDV6? :-\
It can't be a simple fix can it? As the dealer would sort it and add £3 grand to the price if it was. :-\
Can someone come round and give me a slap please as I'm tempted to have a punt on this! :-X ::) ;D
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If you're lucky, it might need a battery, but that's £120 only to find that it's the injectors/glowplugs/maf or all of the above... Probably still making a couple of grand on it, so a cheeky offer might be worth a punt...
I know that's not what you wanted to hear, but hey ho, you'll get over it :D
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Can you live with that interior? ???
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Can you live with that interior? ???
Yes, what BMW is it taken from?
Not that it matters, because it won't be driven much ;D
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Isn't the tdv6 the one that snaps crank-shafts :o
That's old person,smells of wee interior colour.
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This 2009 Land Rover Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2009-Land-Rover-Discovery-4-TDV6-XS-245-BHP-3-0-TURBO-DIESEL-AUTOMATIC-4X4-7-SEA/324399334510?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D225076%26meid%3D3ea62fada7014102a943574b88bcf52e%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D15%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D293897549632%26itm%3D324399334510%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057&_trksid=p2380057.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3A5568afaa-3e4d-11eb-a806-16c4269e7a17%7Cparentrq%3A6300752a1760a9ca2dc021befff5d928%7Ciid%3A1) has a misfire on start up but apparently runs OK when it's warmed up. :-\
A quick search came up with these possibilities: Dirty MAF sensor, knackered battery, duff injectors, duff glow plugs, too much super market fuel. Although all these suggestions were for the Disco 3 2.7TDV6 where it seems a common issue with those, I'd have thought not much difference to the Disco 4's 3.0TDV6? :-\
It can't be a simple fix can it? As the dealer would sort it and add £3 grand to the price if it was. :-\
Can someone come round and give me a slap please as I'm tempted to have a punt on this! :-X ::) ;D
When you wake up this morning sober you'll laugh at your drunken antics of yesterday evening. ;D
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Miss fire at start-up on a diesel is most likely glow plugs, injectors or low compression (on a diesel engine)
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Isn't the tdv6 the one that snaps crank-shafts :o
That's old person,smells of wee interior colour.
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Indeed it is, on the LR forum plenty of disgruntled owners with the V6 engines wishing they'd never bought them . As for the interior too chavvy., black leather is far more suitable in my opinion.
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Yes I wondered about the crankshaft, but I think that was more of an issue with the Disco 3's 2.7TDV6 than the Disco 4's 3 ltr. :-\
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Yes I wondered about the crankshaft, but I think that was more of an issue with the Disco 3's 2.7TDV6 than the Disco 4's 3 ltr. :-\
I thought it was the other way around and the 3.0 has the issues
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I know someone who put two engines into a 2.7 in fairly quick succession... The only saving grace was that the car was cheap and the first replacement engine might have been more worn than it seemed...
Cars with the 2.7 seem to be more durable, which would suggest that the problem is the application rather than the engine.
The 3.0 seems to be more durable.
Haggle hard and take a punt, but not at that price... ;)
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I know someone who put two engines into a 2.7 in fairly quick succession... The only saving grace was that the car was cheap and the first replacement engine might have been more worn than it seemed...l
Cars with the 2.7 seem to be more durable, which would suggest that the problem is the application rather than the engine.
The 3.0 seems to be more durable.
Haggle hard and take a punt, but not at that price... ;)
Yes
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I know someone who put two engines into a 2.7 in fairly quick succession... The only saving grace was that the car was cheap and the first replacement engine might have been more worn than it seemed...l
Cars with the 2.7 seem to be more durable, which would suggest that the problem is the application rather than the engine.
The 3.0 seems to be more durable.
Haggle hard and take a punt, but not at that price... ;)
Yes
That's to say the 2.7 doesn't like hauling the 2.5t lardarsed Disco/Rangie around, buy is happy, and therefore durable, enough in a 407 Coupe or an S type ;)
The 3.0, having a bit more oomph about it and doesn't seem to object to dragging the 4x4 gubbins around.
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I know someone who put two engines into a 2.7 in fairly quick succession... The only saving grace was that the car was cheap and the first replacement engine might have been more worn than it seemed...l
Cars with the 2.7 seem to be more durable, which would suggest that the problem is the application rather than the engine.
The 3.0 seems to be more durable.
Haggle hard and take a punt, but not at that price... ;)
Yes
That's to say the 2.7 doesn't like hauling the 2.5t lardarsed Disco/Rangie around, buy is happy, and therefore durable, enough in a 407 Coupe or an S type ;)
The 3.0, having a bit more oomph about it and doesn't seem to object to dragging the 4x4 gubbins around.
About 246bhp over 195bhp I think roughly speaking. :y
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Yes I wondered about the crankshaft, but I think that was more of an issue with the Disco 3's 2.7TDV6 than the Disco 4's 3 ltr. :-\
I thought it was the other way around and the 3.0 has the issues
OK you probable know better than me Henry. :y
Think I'll have a bit more of a shuftie through the Disco forums. :)
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I know someone who put two engines into a 2.7 in fairly quick succession... The only saving grace was that the car was cheap and the first replacement engine might have been more worn than it seemed...l
Cars with the 2.7 seem to be more durable, which would suggest that the problem is the application rather than the engine.
The 3.0 seems to be more durable.
Haggle hard and take a punt, but not at that price... ;)
Yes
That's to say the 2.7 doesn't like hauling the 2.5t lardarsed Disco/Rangie around, buy is happy, and therefore durable, enough in a 407 Coupe or an S type ;)
The 3.0, having a bit more oomph about it and doesn't seem to object to dragging the 4x4 gubbins around.
About 246bhp over 195bhp I think roughly speaking. :y
And a corresponding slug of torques too 8)
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Am I missing something?
£7499 for a soon to be 12 year old derv agricultural that is partly shagged. :-\
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Of course none of the above comments regarding the crank make any sense :y ;D
As the crank has to transfer the force produced by the pistons into torque and pass it out, if the 3.0 is higher power there is more force and more torque (unless its the same torque higher in the rev range.....which it isn't). SO the 3.0 has more torque and greater crankshaft loads.....so something has changed (I guess Peugeot would know best).
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Of course none of the above comments regarding the crank make any sense :y ;D
As the crank has to transfer the force produced by the pistons into torque and pass it out, if the 3.0 is higher power there is more force and more torque (unless its the same torque higher in the rev range.....which it isn't). SO the 3.0 has more torque and greater crankshaft loads.....so something has changed (I guess Peugeot would know best).
Damn Frenchies are taking over world.
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Of course none of the above comments regarding the crank make any sense :y ;D
As the crank has to transfer the force produced by the pistons into torque and pass it out, if the 3.0 is higher power there is more force and more torque (unless its the same torque higher in the rev range.....which it isn't). SO the 3.0 has more torque and greater crankshaft loads.....so something has changed (I guess Peugeot would know best).
Damn Frenchies are taking over world.
Pug produced parts assembled by Ford in Welsh Wales (I mean, what could possibly go wrong!) until about 2012, then production and sourcing moved to JLR engine plant where changes were made to sort component issues :y
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I believe my astra engine started out as a Fiat.
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Am I missing something?
£7499 for a soon to be 12 year old derv agricultural that is partly shagged. :-\
£12999 if it was running right! ;)
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Am I missing something?
£7499 for a soon to be 12 year old derv agricultural that is partly shagged. :-\
£12999 if it was running right! ;)
Be careful, Tigger. As you said earlier, if it was anything like an easy fix, he'd have done it himself. To lose five grand, he must know it's a big fix.
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Am I missing something?
£7499 for a soon to be 12 year old derv agricultural that is partly shagged. :-\
Because a good one is an excellent car.
But good ones are rare.
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Am I missing something?
£7499 for a soon to be 12 year old derv agricultural that is partly shagged. :-\
£12999 if it was running right! ;)
Only to Forrest Gump. :)
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Am I missing something?
£7499 for a soon to be 12 year old derv agricultural that is partly shagged. :-\
£12999 if it was running right! ;)
Be careful, Tigger. As you said earlier, if it was anything like an easy fix, he'd have done it himself. To lose five grand, he must know it's a big fix.
Yes lucky it's over the other side of the country in a Covid hotspot really! :)
If it was nearby I'd definitely go and have a look. ::)
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Of course none of the above comments regarding the crank make any sense :y ;D
As the crank has to transfer the force produced by the pistons into torque and pass it out, if the 3.0 is higher power there is more force and more torque (unless its the same torque higher in the rev range.....which it isn't). SO the 3.0 has more torque and greater crankshaft loads.....so something has changed (I guess Peugeot would know best).
Damn Frenchies are taking over world.
NOT WHILE I HAVE BREATH. >:( :D ;D
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Of course none of the above comments regarding the crank make any sense :y ;D
As the crank has to transfer the force produced by the pistons into torque and pass it out, if the 3.0 is higher power there is more force and more torque (unless its the same torque higher in the rev range.....which it isn't). SO the 3.0 has more torque and greater crankshaft loads.....so something has changed (I guess Peugeot would know best).
Damn Frenchies are taking over world.
NOT WHILE I HAVE BREATH. >:( :D ;D
They won't have to wait that long then ;D
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Your probably right. Think the old heart had developed a misfire. Might even consult a quack in the new year. ::) ;D
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Your probably right. Think the old heart had developed a misfire. Might even consult a quack in the new year. ::) ;D
Is your HBV leaking? ;D
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Could be. :-\ ;D
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Pug produced parts assembled by Ford in Welsh Wales (I mean, what could possibly go wrong!) until about 2012, then production and sourcing moved to JLR engine plant where changes were made to sort component issues :y
And yet the internet is still replete with reports of snapped cranks on 3.0 TDV6 /SDV6 motors produced after that time. Perhaps JLR should have sharpened their pencils a little more rigorously...
As for the OP, I don't see why you would want that vehicle, it doesn't strike me as particularly cheap. Also, that interior....
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As for the OP, I don't see why you would want that vehicle, it doesn't strike me as particularly cheap. Also, that interior....
Well if you can find me a cheaper Disco 4 of a similar age/mileage, with good history including having the belts done and in VGC, I'll be all ears! :y
And actually.......... I don't mind the interior. :-X :P ;D
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As for the OP, I don't see why you would want that vehicle, it doesn't strike me as particularly cheap. Also, that interior....
Well if you can find me a cheaper Disco 4 of a similar age/mileage, with good history including having the belts done and in VGC, I'll be all ears! :y
And actually.......... I don't mind the interior. :-X :P ;D
Jimmy will like an interior like that in 20 years and he'll want the whole car that colour in 30 years ;D
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Funnily enough, the FIL has an F10 5 series that's beige, inside and out ;D
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While it wouldn't be my first choice of colour, the interior doesn't offend me......
I see it as a plus, really. At least it's never been near a farm and therefore doesn't smell like a farm.
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While it wouldn't be my first choice of colour, the interior doesn't offend me......
I see it as a plus, really. At least it's never been near a farm and therefore doesn't smell like a farm.
you don't see many farmers driving Discoveries around here. They mostly favour Ford Rangers, with L200s a distant second.
Discos are for taking kids to school and the riding stables.
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While it wouldn't be my first choice of colour, the interior doesn't offend me......
I see it as a plus, really. At least it's never been near a farm and therefore doesn't smell like a farm.
you don't see many farmers driving Discoveries around here. They mostly favour Ford Rangers, with L200s a distant second.
Discos are for taking kids to school and the riding stables.
It's probably never been off the black stuff. ::)
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While it wouldn't be my first choice of colour, the interior doesn't offend me......
I see it as a plus, really. At least it's never been near a farm and therefore doesn't smell like a farm.
you don't see many farmers driving Discoveries around here. They mostly favour Ford Rangers, with L200s a distant second.
Discos are for taking kids to school and the riding stables.
Farmers around here (Somerset) drive Tractors.
I do get the Horse'y type MILF driving a Disco though. :D
It's probably never been off the black stuff. ::)
Mounted a kerb or two! :D
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While it wouldn't be my first choice of colour, the interior doesn't offend me......
I see it as a plus, really. At least it's never been near a farm and therefore doesn't smell like a farm.
you don't see many farmers driving Discoveries around here. They mostly favour Ford Rangers, with L200s a distant second.
Discos are for taking kids to school and the riding stables.
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Proper farmers round this way ancient Defenders for work use and when attending "The Lodge" a multitude of newish full fat Range Rovers in the car park.
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While it wouldn't be my first choice of colour, the interior doesn't offend me......
I see it as a plus, really. At least it's never been near a farm and therefore doesn't smell like a farm.
you don't see many farmers driving Discoveries around here. They mostly favour Ford Rangers, with L200s a distant second.
Discos are for taking kids to school and the riding stables.
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Proper farmers round this way ancient Defenders for work use and when attending "The Lodge" a multitude of newish full fat Range Rovers in the car park.
The Ranger driving farmers round here still have the Defenders that made them swap to Fords. They're rusting away quietly out of sight....
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While it wouldn't be my first choice of colour, the interior doesn't offend me......
I see it as a plus, really. At least it's never been near a farm and therefore doesn't smell like a farm.
you don't see many farmers driving Discoveries around here. They mostly favour Ford Rangers, with L200s a distant second.
Discos are for taking kids to school and the riding stables.
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Proper farmers round this way ancient Defenders for work use and when attending "The Lodge" a multitude of newish full fat Range Rovers in the car park.
The Ranger driving farmers round here still have the Defenders that made them swap to Fords. They're rusting away quietly out of sight....
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Lincolnshire folk are tight & look after things properly so they last hence no Fords round here.😉
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The Ranger driving farmers round here still have the Defenders that made them swap to Fords. They're rusting away quietly out of sight....
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Lincolnshire folk are tight & look after things properly so they last hence no Fords round here.😉
It's because they're tight that stopped them patching up Land Rovers.
The man I know said they budget for one big piece of machinery every year. Cars aren't big machinery! He just laughed when I mentioned the new Defender and called it a toy. And pointed out the price: why spend £50k on it when a Ranger(his is a V-plate one reaching the end of its life) is <£20k, is better suited to the job, lasts longer, and doesn't go wrong?
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The Ranger driving farmers round here still have the Defenders that made them swap to Fords. They're rusting away quietly out of sight....
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Lincolnshire folk are tight & look after things properly so they last hence no Fords round here.😉
It's because they're tight that stopped them patching up Land Rovers.
The man I know said they budget for one big piece of machinery every year. Cars aren't big machinery! He just laughed when I mentioned the new Defender and called it a toy. And pointed out the price: why spend £50k on it when a Ranger(his is a V-plate one reaching the end of its life) is <£20k, is better suited to the job, lasts longer, and doesn't go wrong?
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In Lincolnshire we know better than to mention " The new Defender" 😂😂😂
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https://ecdautodesign.com/
It is possible to make a decent Defender... at a price.
https://youtu.be/qeETddIcXBo
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The price of the new defender is in line with the price of the old defender in reality (be aware the ones out at the moment are the high spec non commercial ones to - the old Defender was far from cheap).
The new one is MUCH more capable over the rough stuff.....but then Lincolnshire is hardly a challenging terrain ;D ;D
Clearly I have driven both the old series, defender and new defender a lot.........a hell of a lot........and over various terrain (including on rails).
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You obviously don't know Lincolnshire very well.
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The price of the new defender is in line with the price of the old defender in reality (be aware the ones out at the moment are the high spec non commercial ones to - the old Defender was far from cheap).
The new one is MUCH more capable over the rough stuff.....but then Lincolnshire is hardly a challenging terrain ;D ;D
Clearly I have driven both the old series, defender and new defender a lot.........a hell of a lot........and over various terrain (including on rails).
I'm a fan of the Defender 110's versatility. :y :y :y
(https://uploaddeimagens.com.br/images/003/005/748/full/Defender_PCMG_640x480.jpg?1608214179)
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They are still building some..........Bowler ones with the uprated chassis and a 575bhp V8 :y
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https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-9055175/What-reliable-car-brands-2020.html
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I think we can rule out the snapped crankshaft theory! :o ::)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMTYtf7ES-Q
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I think we can rule out the snapped crankshaft theory! :o ::)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMTYtf7ES-Q
Let's just put this to bed, Tigger. It's your money and it's your choice. Life is short, if you want it, buy it. :y
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I think we can rule out the snapped crankshaft theory! :o ::)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMTYtf7ES-Q
Let's just put this to bed, Tigger. It's your money and it's your choice. Life is short, if you want it, buy it. :y
Just haggle enough of to cover the cost of replacing the engine... Quids in if it is just the battery :D
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I think these could suffer with inlet manifold cracks. Maybe someone will comment.
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I think we can rule out the snapped crankshaft theory! :o ::)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMTYtf7ES-Q
Let's just put this to bed, Tigger. It's your money and it's your choice. Life is short, if you want it, buy it. :y
I thought that some of the more mechanically minded amongst us might find the video interesting. :)
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As fractures go, it's certainly impressive :o Fair play to the bearing cap though, it obviously held the crank together enough to rotate the crank pulley as if nothing* had happened...
When rotating parts fail the results tend to be spectacular... Oops (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_232)
*except for the God awful racket and driveabilty issues.
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I think we can rule out the snapped crankshaft theory! :o ::)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMTYtf7ES-Q
Let's just put this to bed, Tigger. It's your money and it's your choice. Life is short, if you want it, buy it. :y
I thought that some of the more mechanically minded amongst us might find the video interesting. :)
mmm no mention of the cost of that rebuild ..not cheap I bet !!
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I think we can rule out the snapped crankshaft theory! :o ::)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMTYtf7ES-Q
Let's just put this to bed, Tigger. It's your money and it's your choice. Life is short, if you want it, buy it. :y
I thought that some of the more mechanically minded amongst us might find the video interesting. :)
I did enjoy the video. :y I used to enjoy rebuilding engines, and the satisfaction of hearing them run properly again, but I was limited to a block and tackle on a frame for lifting the engine out. I certainly didn't have the facility to lift the body off. ;D
I remember my uncle walking through my parents passageway and saying "That will never go again" after spotting an engine of mine stripped to bare block. My mum replied "Of course it will, he'll have that back on the road in a couple of days". ;D
That Disco sounded so sweet after the rebuild. :y
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There was an article last week about Jeremy Clarksons Range Rover Rover TDV8 2007 model year which he has owned from new , requires both turbos replacing ( common fault around 120,000 miles) he said that he absolutely loves the vehicle and although it may seem silly he is willing to spend the £4000 he has been quoted. Mine is exactly the same engine & model year but my independent reckons he could do mine for just under £3000 if they ever fail, so be prepared for big bills..🙂
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I think we can rule out the snapped crankshaft theory! :o ::)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMTYtf7ES-Q
Let's just put this to bed, Tigger. It's your money and it's your choice. Life is short, if you want it, buy it. :y
I thought that some of the more mechanically minded amongst us might find the video interesting. :)
mmm no mention of the cost of that rebuild ..not cheap I bet !!
This company does it for £3000.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Discovery-4-3-0-TDV6-SDV6-Recon-Engine-Supply-Fitting-/162924326353
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There was an article last week about Jeremy Clarksons Range Rover Rover TDV8 2007 model year which he has owned from new , requires both turbos replacing ( common fault around 120,000 miles) he said that he absolutely loves the vehicle and although it may seem silly he is willing to spend the £4000 he has been quoted. Mine is exactly the same engine & model year but my independent reckons he could do mine for just under £3000 if they ever fail, so be prepared for big bills..🙂
Forgive me for being presumptuous, but I'll guess Mr Clarkson has a few more quid in the bank than you. ;D ;D
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https://www.turnerengineering.co.uk
These people do good work, but you'd have to call them as the TDV lumps aren't covered on their website.
You're biggest issue will be labour if the body has to come out to swap the engine :-\
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There was an article last week about Jeremy Clarksons Range Rover Rover TDV8 2007 model year which he has owned from new , requires both turbos replacing ( common fault around 120,000 miles) he said that he absolutely loves the vehicle and although it may seem silly he is willing to spend the £4000 he has been quoted. Mine is exactly the same engine & model year but my independent reckons he could do mine for just under £3000 if they ever fail, so be prepared for big bills..🙂
Forgive me for being presumptuous, but I'll guess Mr Clarkson has a few more quid in the bank than you. ;D ;D
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Oh yes without a doubt , but I am very comfortably off thank you for your concern. Just trying to make people aware of what these vehicles could cost if the worst happens, a lot of folk buy them without having the means to maintain them properly, which accounts for so many poor examples up for sale.
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You're biggest issue will be labour if the body has to come out to swap the engine :-\
That's pretty much a certainty given that the 'correct' way to change the cambelts on Disco 3/4 is to take the body off, as one set is on the back of the engine so I'm told. I say 'correct' as apparently the rear cambelt can be changed without taking the body off, but it sounds like a very difficult job getting down the back of the engine and you'd have to wonder at the quality of the job. :-\
Anyway I wouldn't think taking the body off is a major issue to someone who knows what they are doing and who has the right kit for the job. As Mick says you have to be prepared for big bills with these cars, and I believe a cambelt change at a indy specialist costs about a grand! More at the LR stealers no doubt! ::)
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It's probably only 10/12 bolts and a couple of plugs :y
I was just highlighting that it's unlikely to be a driveway job ;)
Of course, it could just need a battery :D
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You're biggest issue will be labour if the body has to come out to swap the engine :-\
That's pretty much a certainty given that the 'correct' way to change the cambelts on Disco 3/4 is to take the body off, as one set is on the back of the engine so I'm told. I say 'correct' as apparently the rear cambelt can be changed without taking the body off, but it sounds like a very difficult job getting down the back of the engine and you'd have to wonder at the quality of the job. :-\
Anyway I wouldn't think taking the body off is a major issue to someone who knows what they are doing and who has the right kit for the job. As Mick says you have to be prepared for big bills with these cars, and I believe a cambelt change at a indy specialist costs about a grand! More at the LR stealers no doubt! ::)
The body is designed to be removed, because the timing belt isn't the only job that requires it. It's done with a two post lift.
That said, plenty of garages do the belt job with the body in place, trading ease of fitting for the work involved in removing the body. Also, I believe the rear belts are for the fuel pumps, and don't need to be timed.
£1000 timing belts are nothing new; Renault say that their V6 engines need to be removed for a belt, whereas nobody actually does that.
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Summary: Run! ::)
In fact, given that, on all the JLR forums I've tried, finding any useful pearls of wisdom among the "help! my diseasel engine had just lunched itself" posts is like finding a needle in a hay stack, I'd say stick to petrol. But then, I would say that. ::)
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When I took mine in there were two " body offs" in the workshop one TDV8 was having both turbos replaced the other was having all new brake pipes fitted , if my memory serves me correctly I think it was 2.5 hours labour for removal of the body so around £175 on the bill at my indi, which obviously includes putting it back again..👍
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You're biggest issue will be labour if the body has to come out to swap the engine :-\
That's pretty much a certainty given that the 'correct' way to change the cambelts on Disco 3/4 is to take the body off, as one set is on the back of the engine so I'm told. I say 'correct' as apparently the rear cambelt can be changed without taking the body off, but it sounds like a very difficult job getting down the back of the engine and you'd have to wonder at the quality of the job. :-\
Anyway I wouldn't think taking the body off is a major issue to someone who knows what they are doing and who has the right kit for the job. As Mick says you have to be prepared for big bills with these cars, and I believe a cambelt change at a indy specialist costs about a grand! More at the LR stealers no doubt! ::)
The body is designed to be removed, because the timing belt isn't the only job that requires it. It's done with a two post lift.
That said, plenty of garages do the belt job with the body in place, trading ease of fitting for the work involved in removing the body. Also, I believe the rear belts are for the fuel pumps, and don't need to be timed.
£1000 timing belts are nothing new; Renault say that their V6 engines need to be removed for a belt, whereas nobody actually does that.
Belts on D3-4 aren't to bad once access gained,Jag XF is tighter though as I recently found :o
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Summary: Run! ::)
In fact, given that, on all the JLR forums I've tried, finding any useful pearls of wisdom among the "help! my diseasel engine had just lunched itself" posts is like finding a needle in a hay stack, I'd say stick to petrol. But then, I would say that. ::)
Because you have sense.
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For those that are interested in such things, here's (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiRgTx2oeRo) a video of a fella diagnosing the cause of a misfire on a Disco 4 without getting his hands dirty. :) Well hardly anyway. ;D
A permanent misfire though not a start up misfire, and a misfire that will cost someone ££££££! :-X :(
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For those that are interested in such things, here's (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiRgTx2oeRo) a video of a fella diagnosing the cause of a misfire on a Disco 4 without getting his hands dirty. :) Well hardly anyway. ;D
A permanent misfire though not a start up misfire, and a misfire that will cost someone ££££££! :-X :(
The way this virus is going, I'd buy it now and drive somewhere very remote in it.
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For those that are interested in such things, here's (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiRgTx2oeRo) a video of a fella diagnosing the cause of a misfire on a Disco 4 without getting his hands dirty. :) Well hardly anyway. ;D
A permanent misfire though not a start up misfire, and a misfire that will cost someone ££££££! :-X :(
The way this virus is going, I'd buy it now and drive somewhere very remote in it.
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It knows where you are it will find you & kill you..
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For those that are interested in such things, here's (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiRgTx2oeRo) a video of a fella diagnosing the cause of a misfire on a Disco 4 without getting his hands dirty. :) Well hardly anyway. ;D
A permanent misfire though not a start up misfire, and a misfire that will cost someone ££££££! :-X :(
Refreshing to see a garage tech who knows how the car works and how to use the tech at his disposal. Bad news delivered to the customer but with the minimum money and time wasted on BS and parts replacements on a hunch. :y
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For those that are interested in such things, here's (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiRgTx2oeRo) a video of a fella diagnosing the cause of a misfire on a Disco 4 without getting his hands dirty. :) Well hardly anyway. ;D
A permanent misfire though not a start up misfire, and a misfire that will cost someone ££££££! :-X :(
Refreshing to see a garage tech who knows how the car works and how to use the tech at his disposal. Bad news delivered to the customer but with the minimum money and time wasted on BS and parts replacements on a hunch. :y
Yes I thought it was pretty cool! 8)