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Title: I didn't know that Anne Boleyn was a black woman.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 17 December 2020, 15:53:14
.......and I've always considered myself to be pretty well informed  on Tudor history. I apologise unreservedly for my ignorance.


Title: Re: I didn't know that Anne Boleyn was a black woman.
Post by: STEMO on 17 December 2020, 16:01:00
Should there be a link or something there?
Title: Re: I didn't know that Anne Boleyn was a black woman.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 17 December 2020, 16:12:43
Should there be a link or something there?

A link to what?

I made an error and I apologise.
Title: Re: I didn't know that Anne Boleyn was a black woman.
Post by: Alnico Blue on 17 December 2020, 16:19:45
No need to apolgise   Opti  . . . .  I remember being told she never ever washed herself and worked in a coal yard  :o

Not sure where you are going with this though  :-\ :-\
Title: Re: I didn't know that Anne Boleyn was a black woman.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 17 December 2020, 16:22:39
No need to apolgise   Opti  . . . .  I remember being told she never ever washed herself and worked in coal yard  :o

I'm disappointed I didn't know that this iconic English Queen was black. Strewth. :-\

 
Title: Re: I didn't know that Anne Boleyn was a black woman.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 17 December 2020, 16:28:58
Actually......I think using a black actor shows diversity and I don't find it a problem in itself.

Left field thinking has much to commend it. I suggest we experiment with a black Maggie Thatcher and a black Winston Churchill. That should tick some boxes. :y
Title: Re: I didn't know that Anne Boleyn was a black woman.
Post by: Rangie on 17 December 2020, 16:32:04
How about a black Bernard Manning ?
Title: Re: I didn't know that Anne Boleyn was a black woman.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 17 December 2020, 16:36:31
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_African_presence_in_London

I do believe that Channel 5 is mistaken... She was beheaded sixty years before the first official negro in Lundun...

I think that they may have previously mentioned it if the Queen was, er, not local...  ::)
Title: Re: I didn't know that Anne Boleyn was a black woman.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 17 December 2020, 16:37:09
How about a black Bernard Manning ?

 ....... or a black Enoch Powell giving his famous 'Rivers of blood ' speech in 1968,  for which Ted Heath sacked him.  ::)
Title: Re: I didn't know that Anne Boleyn was a black woman.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 17 December 2020, 16:41:14
Seriously though......if a woman as iconic as Anne Boleyn can be portrayed as black then I'm sure black people will have no problem with a white 'Ali' or a white Martin Luther King ......or a white Obama ( who is in reality half white)

It's great news all round. :y



Title: Re: I didn't know that Anne Boleyn was a black woman.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 17 December 2020, 16:43:51
Seriously though......if a woman as iconic as Anne Boleyn can be portrayed as black then I'm sure black people will have no problem with a white 'Ali' or a white Martin Luther King ......or a white Obama ( who is in reality half white)

It's great news all round. :y
If you like that sort of thing...
Title: Re: I didn't know that Anne Boleyn was a black woman.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 17 December 2020, 16:46:47
Seriously though......if a woman as iconic as Anne Boleyn can be portrayed as black then I'm sure black people will have no problem with a white 'Ali' or a white Martin Luther King ......or a white Obama ( who is in reality half white)

It's great news all round. :y
If you like that sort of thing...

It will be a one way street, Al.  :-\

Box ticking by guilty white liberals who need to atone and apologise for the evil white race.


Title: Re: I didn't know that Anne Boleyn was a black woman.
Post by: STEMO on 17 December 2020, 17:48:23
It's actually a good thing. When things become so ridiculous people usually turn away from them.
Title: Re: I didn't know that Anne Boleyn was a black woman.
Post by: Rangie on 17 December 2020, 18:13:25
It's actually a good thing. When things become so ridiculous people usually turn away from them.


The words of wisdom thank god for that.
Title: Re: I didn't know that Anne Boleyn was a black woman.
Post by: STEMO on 17 December 2020, 18:42:21
I think that the soon to be released'Black Churchill' will finally see the whole thing off. ;D
Title: Re: I didn't know that Anne Boleyn was a black woman.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 17 December 2020, 18:47:44
I think that the soon to be released'Black Churchill' will finally see the whole thing off. ;D

......or an epic film about Ali's early boxing career as 'the great white hope' :)
Title: Re: I didn't know that Anne Boleyn was a black woman.
Post by: Shackeng on 17 December 2020, 18:53:25
How about a black Bernard Manning ?

 ....... or a black Enoch Powell giving his famous 'Rivers of blood ' speech in 1968,  for which Ted Heath sacked him.  ::)

That was the first time I wrote to a PM to object.  >:(
Title: Re: I didn't know that Anne Boleyn was a black woman.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 17 December 2020, 19:10:14
How about a black Bernard Manning ?

 ....... or a black Enoch Powell giving his famous 'Rivers of blood ' speech in 1968,  for which Ted Heath sacked him.  ::)

That was the first time I wrote to a PM to object.  >:(

Object to the speech or object to Enoch getting sacked by Heath?
Title: Re: I didn't know that Anne Boleyn was a black woman.
Post by: TheBoy on 17 December 2020, 19:26:10
Wasn't the next Bond after Daniel Craig rumoured to be a non male, non IC1 person?
Title: Re: I didn't know that Anne Boleyn was a black woman.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 17 December 2020, 19:29:12
Wasn't the next Bond after Daniel Craig rumoured to be a non male, non IC1 person?

Yep a woman. Most likely with dark skin to tick another box. Can't be called James though. :-\
Title: Re: I didn't know that Anne Boleyn was a black woman.
Post by: STEMO on 17 December 2020, 19:29:43
Liz Truss seems to be adopting a more sensible approach, the wokes don't like it:

Equality debate can't be led by fashion, says minister Liz Truss https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55346920
Title: Re: I didn't know that Anne Boleyn was a black woman.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 17 December 2020, 19:34:29
Liz Truss seems to be adopting a more sensible approach, the wokes don't like it:

Equality debate can't be led by fashion, says minister Liz Truss https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55346920

I see the Labour party don't agree with her views. Their priority was to look after the working classes back in the day.

Today they are obsessed with race, and minorities such as trans and gays. They have failed to see the elephant in the room which is why many of the poorest towns in the North voted for Boris.

Title: Re: I didn't know that Anne Boleyn was a black woman.
Post by: STEMO on 17 December 2020, 19:37:57
Liz Truss seems to be adopting a more sensible approach, the wokes don't like it:

Equality debate can't be led by fashion, says minister Liz Truss https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55346920

I see the Labour party don't agree with her views. Their priority was to look after the working classes back in the day.

Today they are obsessed with race, and minorities such as trans and gays. They have failed to see the elephant in the room which is why many of the poorest towns in the North voted for Boris.
I'm very disappointed in you, Opti, no mention at all of her tits  ::)
Title: Re: I didn't know that Anne Boleyn was a black woman.
Post by: dave the builder on 17 December 2020, 19:38:32
they tried replacing Dr Who with a woman  ::)
now Dr Who can't be shown on Christmas day because she has to stop home and cook the turkey  ;D
Title: Re: I didn't know that Anne Boleyn was a black woman.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 17 December 2020, 19:42:35
Liz Truss seems to be adopting a more sensible approach, the wokes don't like it:

Equality debate can't be led by fashion, says minister Liz Truss https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55346920

I see the Labour party don't agree with her views. Their priority was to look after the working classes back in the day.

Today they are obsessed with race, and minorities such as trans and gays. They have failed to see the elephant in the room which is why many of the poorest towns in the North voted for Boris.
I'm very disappointed in you, Opti, no mention at all of her tits  ::)

That would not be a politically correct thing to say. Anyway......she is a 10 pinter at best. Heidi Allen on the other hand... :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: I didn't know that Anne Boleyn was a black woman.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 17 December 2020, 19:44:04
they tried replacing Dr Who with a woman  ::)
now Dr Who can't be shown on Christmas day because she has to stop home and cook the turkey  ;D

I hear the ratings have tanked. Go woke...Go broke....is that what they say? :-X
Title: Re: I didn't know that Anne Boleyn was a black woman.
Post by: STEMO on 17 December 2020, 19:44:37
Can you imagine what the British army will look like in 20 years?  ;D

The Russians will die laughing and, thus, be defeated.
Title: Re: I didn't know that Anne Boleyn was a black woman.
Post by: ronnyd on 17 December 2020, 21:29:17
Wasn't the next Bond after Daniel Craig rumoured to be a non male, non IC1 person?

Yep a woman. Most likely with dark skin to tick another box. Can't be called James though. :-\
The name's Bond. Jamima Bond.  :-[
Title: Re: I didn't know that Anne Boleyn was a black woman.
Post by: STEMO on 17 December 2020, 21:30:11
Wasn't the next Bond after Daniel Craig rumoured to be a non male, non IC1 person?

Yep a woman. Most likely with dark skin to tick another box. Can't be called James though. :-\
The name's Bond. Jamima Bond.  :-[
Bend me over your desk, Mr Moneybags  ;D
Title: Re: I didn't know that Anne Boleyn was a black woman.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 17 December 2020, 22:03:29
Wasn't the next Bond after Daniel Craig rumoured to be a non male, non IC1 person?

Yep a woman. Most likely with dark skin to tick another box. Can't be called James though. :-\
The name's Bond. Jamima Bond.  :-[
Bend me over your desk, Mr Moneybags  ;D
.. after confirming that that does actually constitute consent, naturally. ;D
Title: Re: I didn't know that Anne Boleyn was a black woman.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 17 December 2020, 23:09:24
Wasn't the next Bond after Daniel Craig rumoured to be a non male, non IC1 person?

Yep a woman. Most likely with dark skin to tick another box. Can't be called James though. :-\
The name's Bond. Jamima Bond.  :-[

I suppose she could still be called James as a black gay trans woman who self-identifies as a man. :)

That ticks a lot of boxes. :y
Title: Re: I didn't know that Anne Boleyn was a black woman.
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 18 December 2020, 12:10:39
Wasn't the next Bond after Daniel Craig rumoured to be a non male, non IC1 person?

Yep a woman. Most likely with dark skin to tick another box. Can't be called James though. :-\

Black female lesbian Islamic person who considers themselves a toaster, should result in enough grants to pay for the full film budget  ;D
Title: Re: I didn't know that Anne Boleyn was a black woman.
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 18 December 2020, 12:50:06
Apparently Lawrence Fox has put his tongue firmly in his cheek and complained that this woman getting the role is discriminatory on grounds of limbism.
Ann Boleyn had six fingers on one hand, and this woman clearly has only five. Brilliant.  ;D
Title: Re: I didn't know that Anne Boleyn was a black woman.
Post by: STEMO on 18 December 2020, 12:59:17
Apparently Lawrence Fox has put his tongue firmly in his cheek and complained that this woman getting the role is discriminatory on grounds of limbism.
Ann Boleyn had six fingers on one hand, and this woman clearly has only five. Brilliant.  ;D
If you're into your Tudor films, how can you take something like this seriously?
Title: Re: I didn't know that Anne Boleyn was a black woman.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 18 December 2020, 13:16:57
Apparently Lawrence Fox has put his tongue firmly in his cheek and complained that this woman getting the role is discriminatory on grounds of limbism.
Ann Boleyn had six fingers on one hand, and this woman clearly has only five. Brilliant.  ;D

Would this prove better or worse for teasing the Tudor todger? :)
Title: Re: I didn't know that Anne Boleyn was a black woman.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 18 December 2020, 13:32:54
I think that the soon to be released'Black Churchill' will finally see the whole thing off. ;D

With a name like Winston good old Winnie is begging for the black makeover treatment. Expect 'Black Churchill' the movie early 2021. ::)

Title: Re: I didn't know that Anne Boleyn was a black woman.
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 18 December 2020, 13:54:31
Apparently Lawrence Fox has put his tongue firmly in his cheek and complained that this woman getting the role is discriminatory on grounds of limbism.
Ann Boleyn had six fingers on one hand, and this woman clearly has only five. Brilliant.  ;D

Would this prove better or worse for teasing the Tudor todger? :)

Given Henry XIII moved heaven and earth to marry the woman, including the first Brexit, it must have been better!  :y

Although ultimately it proved worse for Anne Boleyn.  ::)
Title: Re: I didn't know that Anne Boleyn was a black woman.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 18 December 2020, 14:19:41
Apparently Lawrence Fox has put his tongue firmly in his cheek and complained that this woman getting the role is discriminatory on grounds of limbism.
Ann Boleyn had six fingers on one hand, and this woman clearly has only five. Brilliant.  ;D

Would this prove better or worse for teasing the Tudor todger? :)

Given Henry XIII moved heaven and earth to marry the woman, including the first Brexit, it must have been better!  :y

Although ultimately it proved worse for Anne Boleyn.  ::)

He slipped  her sister a length first. :)

As for the extra finger.......she had one less head than most people, so it it all balances out in the end. ::) ::) ;D 
Title: Re: I didn't know that Anne Boleyn was a black woman.
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 18 December 2020, 17:26:26
Apparently Lawrence Fox has put his tongue firmly in his cheek and complained that this woman getting the role is discriminatory on grounds of limbism.
Ann Boleyn had six fingers on one hand, and this woman clearly has only five. Brilliant.  ;D

Would this prove better or worse for teasing the Tudor todger? :)

Given Henry XIII moved heaven and earth to marry the woman, including the first Brexit, it must have been better!  :y

Although ultimately it proved worse for Anne Boleyn.  ::)

He slipped  her sister a length first. :)

As for the extra finger.......she had one less head than most people, so it it all balances out in the end. ::) ::) ;D

She was probably always destined for a sticky end, as if she'd have been a commoner with six digits, she'd have been burnt at the stake as a witch!  :(
Title: Re: I didn't know that Anne Boleyn was a black woman.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 18 December 2020, 18:04:30
Which, no pun intended, was one of the items on her list of wrongness, although apparently no proof was offered...

I am Henry the Eighth I am :D
Title: Re: I didn't know that Anne Boleyn was a black woman.
Post by: TheBoy on 18 December 2020, 18:48:13
lesbian
OK, I'll agree to anything.  Where do I watch?
Title: Re: I didn't know that Anne Boleyn was a black woman.
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 18 December 2020, 19:02:06
Anyhoo, surely this is cultural (mis) appropriation. The same thing they moan about when a white person plays a part that could / should have been played by a non white person ?
Title: Re: I didn't know that Anne Boleyn was a black woman.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 18 December 2020, 19:35:27
Not to mention a complete affront to historical fact...

Spinning historical events one way or tother is a fine line, but rewriting them is across that line... Unless of course it is being billed as some sort of comedic parody... Which, apparently, this isn't  :-X
Title: Re: I didn't know that Anne Boleyn was a black woman.
Post by: ronnyd on 18 December 2020, 20:04:05
Not to mention a complete affront to historical fact...

Spinning historical events one way or tother is a fine line, but rewriting them is across that line... Unless of course it is being billed as some sort of comedic parody... Which, apparently, this isn't  :-X
Hollywood,s been doing that for years. ;)
Title: Re: I didn't know that Anne Boleyn was a black woman.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 18 December 2020, 20:19:24
Not to mention a complete affront to historical fact...

Spinning historical events one way or tother is a fine line, but rewriting them is across that line... Unless of course it is being billed as some sort of comedic parody... Which, apparently, this isn't  :-X
Hollywood,s been doing that for years. ;)
I guess, but there's artistic licence and there's total fabrication...
Title: Re: I didn't know that Anne Boleyn was a black woman.
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 18 December 2020, 20:35:46
Anyhoo, surely this is cultural (mis) appropriation. The same thing they moan about when a white person plays a part that could / should have been played by a non white person ?

Next time they do a film about Rosa Parks they should use a white actress to portray her.  See how they get on!  ;D
Title: Re: I didn't know that Anne Boleyn was a black woman.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 18 December 2020, 21:10:56
Anyhoo, surely this is cultural (mis) appropriation. The same thing they moan about when a white person plays a part that could / should have been played by a non white person ?

Next time they do a film about Rosa Parks they should use a white actress to portray her.  See how they get on!  ;D

It will be a one way street. The other way is racist.

Only white people can be racist, according to black people. :)