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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 27 December 2020, 15:19:45
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Plenty of petrol and cranks fast on the battery.
No codes either stored or pending on Maxiscan MS509. No warning lights or 'flashing spanners'
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It's probably died of boredom.
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Oh dear.... They say these things come in threes. ::) First the mower doesn't want to play and now Mrs Opti's Corsa. :-\
Maybe we should start a poll. What's next to shit its self? The Jaaag or the Signum. :-\
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Oh dear.... They say these things come in threes. ::) First the mower doesn't want to play and now Mrs Opti's Corsa. :-\
Maybe we should start a poll. What's next to shit its self? The Jaaag or the Signum. :-\
Or the man himself. He's talking about parting with a few hundred quid for a widow maker.
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how long has it been stood ?
has it got oil in ? and antifreeze not water only in the cooling system ?
1 L 1.2 or 1.4 ?
can you hear the fuel pump when you turn to accessories ignition position ? (dash lights on)
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Have you dropped the key and lost the immobiliser chip?
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It's the mighty 1.2 SXI of 2003 vintage.
It was lasted started a couple of weeks ago and all was fine. No hint of it 'catching'.......it turns over fast without a hint of life.
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Have you dropped the key and lost the immobiliser chip?
No....and I've just tried the'basic' spare key ( the one that can't operate the central locking system)
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It's the mighty 1.2 SXI of 2003 vintage.
It was lasted started a couple of weeks ago and all was fine. No hint of it 'catching'.......it turns over fast without a hint of life.
Was it started and turned off without being driven?
Crank it over with the throttle wide open for 30 seconds.
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It's the mighty 1.2 SXI of 2003 vintage.
It was lasted started a couple of weeks ago and all was fine. No hint of it 'catching'.......it turns over fast without a hint of life.
Was it started and turned off without being driven?
Crank it over with the throttle wide open for 30 seconds.
Yes.....never really driven as it is SORN. I'll give it a go. ;D
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Nope. No success. Il est mort. :'(
Battery still good though. :y
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All the fuses good?
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Nope. No success. Il est mort. :'(
Battery still good though. :y
Then you need to do some work:
Remove the plugs, and dry them with a flame. Inspect them for wear and damage; replace if necessary
Pull the fuel pump fuse, and crank it over with the throttle open again. Do that a few times.
Ensure the battery is fully charged.
Refit the plugs
If it was flooded, it should now start.
Cars are feminine, so elle est mort 8)
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Nope. No success. Il est mort. :'(
Battery still good though. :y
Then you need to do some work:
Remove the plugs, and dry them with a flame. Inspect them for wear and damage; replace if necessary
Pull the fuel pump fuse, and crank it over with the throttle open again. Do that a few times.
Ensure the battery is fully charged.
Refit the plugs
If it was flooded, it should now start.
Cars are feminine, so elle est mort 8)
Thanks Nick.....coil pack is a piece of piss to lift on the Corsa. Car has only covered 29000. Plugs were changed at around 22000 miles. Hardly ever used.
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Actually I meant to say 'it is dead'.....my command of the french language leaves much to be desired. :-X
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Actually I meant to say 'it is dead'.....my command of the French language leaves much to be desired. :-X
Using the correct pronoun is how you do that in languages that use genders
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https://youtu.be/9iKHjl5xAaA (https://youtu.be/9iKHjl5xAaA)
Don't get me started on gender pronouns, Nick. The world is f*ucked up enough as it is. ::) ::) ;D
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2003 means chain driven with hydraulic tensioner.
How quick does it turn over? Thinking maybe chain jumped as that does happen with these if left for a long time. We had one in work that had not moved for a year or so and had to tow-start it to get it going first. The tensioner could not get enough oil so the chain had just enough slack to put the timing out by about a tooth and would not hold compression but not enough to smack valves. Oil pressure solved and all was good. Not saying it is the problem, but may be worth a look.
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Don't mess about with it , treat her to a newer little runaround..
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2003 means chain driven with hydraulic tensioner.
How quick does it turn over? Thinking maybe chain jumped as that does happen with these if left for a long time. We had one in work that had not moved for a year or so and had to tow-start it to get it going first. The tensioner could not get enough oil so the chain had just enough slack to put the timing out by about a tooth and would not hold compression but not enough to smack valves. Oil pressure solved and all was good. Not saying it is the problem, but may be worth a look.
The battery has been fully charged so it turns over quickly, but no more quickly than expected with a fully charged battery.
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Don't mess about with it , treat her to a newer little runaround..
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If 'The Repair shop' on TV was not so popular I may have done this. I like to fix things if I can. ;D
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Have you tried Quick Start. Not always recommended but once wont kill off the car.
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Have you tried Quick Start. Not always recommended but once wont kill off the car.
I thought that was heresy recommending that stuff on here! :o :o :o ;D ;D ;D
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Have you tried Quick Start. Not always recommended but once wont kill off the car.
I thought that was heresy recommending that stuff on here! :o :o :o ;D ;D ;D
Is that the same stuff as 'Start yer bastard'?
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Have you tried Quick Start. Not always recommended but once wont kill off the car.
I thought that was heresy recommending that stuff on here! :o :o :o ;D ;D ;D
Is that the same stuff as 'Start yer bastard'?
Pretty much I think. :y
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Have you tried Quick Start. Not always recommended but once wont kill off the car.
I thought that was heresy recommending that stuff on here! :o :o :o ;D ;D ;D
Is that the same stuff as 'Start yer bastard'?
Pretty much I think. :y
Yep, and it won't prove anything and might trash it.
Nick's suggestion of drying out the plugs and ensuring any excess fuel has cleared will probably sort it, especially if it's been started to shuffle it around the drive and not driven.
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Have you tried Quick Start. Not always recommended but once wont kill off the car.
I thought that was heresy recommending that stuff on here! :o :o :o ;D ;D ;D
Is that the same stuff as 'Start yer bastard'?
Pretty much I think. :y
Yep, and it won't prove anything and might trash it.
Nick's suggestion of drying out the plugs and ensuring any excess fuel has cleared will probably sort it, especially if it's been started to shuffle it around the drive and not driven.
Lifting the coil pack should be easier than the 135 Omega pack.
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Lifting the coil pack should be easier than the engine out 2,4,6 Omega pack.
FTFY ;D
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1.2 DIS Pack and spark plug removal is simple :y
Corsa C's had known issues with water leaks around the bulkhead, the BCM is known to suffer with water ingress so could be worth a check.
A crank sensor failure could also result in non-starting, if you can smell petrol when you remove the plugs then the crank sensor should be OK as I believe the ECU dictates the running of the fuel pump from the crank sensor output
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1.2 DIS Pack and spark plug removal is simple :y
Corsa C's had known issues with water leaks around the bulkhead, the BCM is known to suffer with water ingress so could be worth a check.
A crank sensor failure could also result in non-starting, if you can smell petrol when you remove the plugs then the crank sensor should be OK as I believe the ECU dictates the running of the fuel pump from the crank sensor output
Thanks....yes it does have that 'crank sensor failure' feel in that there is absolutely no hint of it wanting to fire up.
Wouldn't CS failure throw up a fault code though?
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just double check the fuel, fuel pump failure is the most common cause
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Actually I meant to say 'it is dead'.....my command of the french language leaves much to be desired. :-X
We are not in Europe any more, no foriegn language around here. It is dead, english, is fine
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Actually I meant to say 'it is dead'.....my command of the french language leaves much to be desired. :-X
We are not in Europe any more, no foriegn language around here. It is dead, english Anglo-Saxon, is fine
Fixed that for you Keith! ;D
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just double check the fuel, fuel pump failure is the most common cause
The red light for fuel is on. I put about half a gallon in. Red light still on.
I wonder if it needs more fuel.
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just double check the fuel, fuel pump failure is the most common cause
The red light for fuel is on. I put about half a gallon in. Red light still on.
I wonder if it needs more fuel.
Half a gallon? Are you sure you could afford it?
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https://youtu.be/6tksztddUGM (https://youtu.be/6tksztddUGM)
This is quite interesting.
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just double check the fuel, fuel pump failure is the most common cause
The red light for fuel is on. I put about half a gallon in. Red light still on.
I wonder if it needs more fuel.
Half a gallon? Are you sure you could afford it?
Surely you have a whippet that needs walking.
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Plenty of petrol and cranks fast on the battery.
No codes either stored or pending on Maxiscan MS509. No warning lights or 'flashing spanners'
your first post of the thread ::)
must be a massive fuel leak then if it's out of petrol now ;D
so half a gallon of old fuel out your mower won't resolve your issue
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just double check the fuel, fuel pump failure is the most common cause
The red light for fuel is on. I put about half a gallon in. Red light still on.
I wonder if it needs more fuel.
Half a gallon? That's about a lawn mower tankful. You did check the lawnmower worked before draining the fuel? ;D
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A diesel car would have fired up straight away, no problem! :)
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I reckon there is probably 2 gallons left when the red light comes on. I have added another half gallon or so.
Two and a half gallons should be enough to start a humble Corsa 4 pot. :)
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I reckon there is probably 2 gallons left when the red light comes on. I have added another half gallon or so.
Two and a half gallons should be enough to start a humble Corsa 4 pot. :)
Two gallons? It only holds three ;D
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9.5 gallons / 44 liters for a corsa c petrol
and the fuel pump is lubricated with fuel ,so running on empty is a good way to knacker the pump
and if the car hardly goes anywhere then that half a cup full of petrol in the tank will have lost it's punch
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9.5 gallons / 44 liters for a corsa c petrol
and the fuel pump is lubricated with fuel ,so running on empty is a good way to knacker the pump
and if the car hardly goes anywhere then that half a cup full of petrol in the tank will have lost it's punch
Do you think it might help if Opti gave it to someone who knew what they were doing? ;D
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9.5 gallons / 44 liters for a corsa c petrol
and the fuel pump is lubricated with fuel ,so running on empty is a good way to knacker the pump
and if the car hardly goes anywhere then that half a cup full of petrol in the tank will have lost it's punch
Do you think it might help if Opti gave it to someone who knew what they were doing? ;D
I hear he's buying Mrs Opti a motorbike instead of the corsa on another thread :-X
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9.5 gallons / 44 liters for a corsa c petrol
and the fuel pump is lubricated with fuel ,so running on empty is a good way to knacker the pump
and if the car hardly goes anywhere then that half a cup full of petrol in the tank will have lost it's punch
Do you think it might help if Opti gave it to someone who knew what they were doing? ;D
I hear he's buying Mrs Opti a knackered motorbike instead of the corsa on another thread :-X
FTFY Dave! ;D
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2 and a half gallon of petrol might be enough to register on a bike and get it to fire up though :y
might even be enough to put some back in the mower and get that running too ;D
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9.5 gallons / 44 liters for a corsa c petrol
and the fuel pump is lubricated with fuel ,so running on empty is a good way to knacker the pump
and if the car hardly goes anywhere then that half a cup full of petrol in the tank will have lost it's punch
Do you think it might help if Opti gave it to someone who knew what they were doing? ;D
I hear he's buying Mrs Opti a motorbike instead of the corsa on another thread :-X
He gets the jag, the sigmund and a motorbike, she gets a 17 year old corsa and a clapped out husband. Poor woman. :(
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9.5 gallons / 44 liters for a corsa c petrol
and the fuel pump is lubricated with fuel ,so running on empty is a good way to knacker the pump
and if the car hardly goes anywhere then that half a cup full of petrol in the tank will have lost it's punch
Do you think it might help if Opti gave it to someone who knew what they were doing? ;D
I hear he's buying Mrs Opti a motorbike instead of the corsa on another thread :-X
He gets the jag, the sigmund and a motorbike, she gets a 17 year old corsa and a clapped out husband. Poor woman. :(
indeed ,apparently the housekeeping doesn't even cover the cost of fuel for her shopping cart :(
at least his midlife crisis will be over soon when he falls off the bike :-X
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Bunch of old women..... ;D
Every man should have a motor bike and a mistress.
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Bunch of old women..... ;D
Every man should have a motor bike and a mistress.
That is the male equivalent of HRT; a motorbike and a much younger girlfriend.....
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Bunch of old women..... ;D
Every man should have a motor bike and a mistress.
That is the male equivalent of HRT; a motorbike and a much younger girlfriend.....
The alternative is a cardigan with wooden buttons which can be worn on a day out to the garden centre, or OAP meal. As for sex, forget it even existed.
I'll die as young as I can but leave it as late as possible. :)
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Bunch of old women..... ;D
Every man should have a motor bike and a mistress.
That is the male equivalent of HRT; a motorbike and a much younger girlfriend.....
The alternative is a cardigan with wooden buttons which can be worn on a day out to the garden centre, or OAP meal. As for sex, forget it even existed.
I'll die as young as I can but leave it as late as possible. :)
Don't forget the leather elbow patches. 8)
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Bunch of old women..... ;D
Every man should have a motor bike and a mistress.
That is the male equivalent of HRT; a motorbike and a much younger girlfriend.....
The alternative is a cardigan with wooden buttons which can be worn on a day out to the garden centre, or OAP meal. As for sex, forget it even existed.
I'll die as young as I can but leave it as late as possible. :)
Don't forget the leather elbow patches. 8)
.. or the dribbles of soft boiled egg on the cardigan.
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Have you been in my wardrobe? ???
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Does it smell funny? ;D
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Update.
Half tank of petrol.
Absolutely no sign of it sparking up. SFA.
Should I be able to hear the fuel pump activate when I switch on the ignition?
Because it spins without any sign of life my money is on either a faulty fuel pump or a faulty crank sensor. Both of which are 17/18 years old.
I don't buy the 'flooded' argument. No codes.
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Are you going to make this your life's work? Whats left of it, anyway.
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Are you going to make this your life's work? Whats left of it, anyway.
Go walk the whippet and let people who know about cars offer constructive advice.
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Are you going to make this your life's work? Whats left of it, anyway.
Go walk the whippet and let people who know about cars offer constructive advice.
People who know about cars don't spend weeks asking other people why it won't start. ;D
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Update.
Half tank of petrol.
Absolutely no sign of it sparking up. SFA.
Should I be able to hear the fuel pump activate when I switch on the ignition?
Because it spins without any sign of life my money is on either a faulty fuel pump or a faulty crank sensor. Both of which are 17/18 years old.
I don't buy the 'flooded' argument. No codes.
What code would you expect to get for flooded? P003.8% for cheap fizzy lager?
If the fuel pump doesn't turn with the ignition on(many don't) it absolutely must when the engine is cranking. So that's an easy test.
As is checking that there is fuel and pressure at the fuel rail. The pressure is just as important as the fuel supply. It's fuel injection after all.
Even easier is using the tool - that didn't give a flooded code - to read the live data from the crank sensor.
They're both 17 years old is true; crank sensors are a common failure on managed engines and submerged pumps do need to sit in enough fuel to keep cool and lubricated.
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Are you going to make this your life's work? Whats left of it, anyway.
Go walk the whippet and let people who know about cars offer constructive advice.
People who know about cars don't spend weeks asking other people why it won't start. ;D
As I don't know (that much) about cars I tend to ask people who do know about cars. People such as Mark DTM, and the ever cheerful Nick W. ;D
I don't want you to feel left out though, and if I need to know how to steal a car, or clone a car, you'll be the first I ask. Promise. :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
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Update.
Half tank of petrol.
Absolutely no sign of it sparking up. SFA.
Should I be able to hear the fuel pump activate when I switch on the ignition?
Because it spins without any sign of life my money is on either a faulty fuel pump or a faulty crank sensor. Both of which are 17/18 years old.
I don't buy the 'flooded' argument. No codes.
What code would you expect to get for flooded? P003.8% for cheap fizzy lager?
If the fuel pump doesn't turn with the ignition on(many don't) it absolutely must when the engine is cranking. So that's an easy test.
As is checking that there is fuel and pressure at the fuel rail. The pressure is just as important as the fuel supply. It's fuel injection after all.
Even easier is using the tool - that didn't give a flooded code - to read the live data from the crank sensor.
They're both 17 years old is true; crank sensors are a common failure on managed engines and submerged pumps do need to sit in enough fuel to keep cool and lubricated.
Thanks Nick.
I wasn't expecting a code for flooding. The short sentence 'No codes' was just to reiterate there were still no codes when attached to the code reader.
So what would you bet on as the problem?
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Are the plugs sparking then? (Always a good place to start :y
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Are the wheels round (except for the little flat bit on the bottom)?
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Are the plugs sparking then? (Always a good place to start :y
I haven't got around to lifting the coil/dis pack yet but I doubt plugs are the problem. I would expect it to at least 'try to start' even if it won't catch.
Completely dead.
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No I’m asking are you getting a spark from the plugs that is the first place to look
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Are there specific codes for a faulty fuel pump or crank sensor?
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Are the plugs sparking then? (Always a good place to start :y
I haven't got around to lifting the coil/dis pack yet but I doubt plugs are the problem. I would expect it to at least 'try to start' even if it won't catch.
Completely dead.
You haven't answered my question.
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Are the plugs sparking then? (Always a good place to start :y
I haven't got around to lifting the coil/dis pack yet but I doubt plugs are the problem. I would expect it to at least 'try to start' even if it won't catch.
Completely dead.
Lift the coil pack but leave connected and plug a couple of spark plugs in,crank and see if you have spark,you'll be be halfway to knowing what's wrong then :y
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No I’m asking are you getting a spark from the plugs that is the first place to look
I'll need to lift the coil pack to reach the plugs unless I'm doing something wrong.
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.....and before anyone asks. I know to lift the coil pack rather than prise it off with a hammer and a screwdriver. :)
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does the earlier Corsa need the clutch pedal pressed in to start it ??? just asking ;D
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Are there specific codes for a faulty fuel pump or crank sensor?
Highly unlikely.
But the physical checks are easy.
I'd start with the fuel because less dismantling is required than checking for a spark.
That's the reverse of older cars with plug leads.
Unless you have one of the gadgets that rest on top of a coil pack......
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.....and before anyone asks. I know to lift the coil pack rather than prise it off with a hammer and a screwdriver. :)
you remove the 2 torx that clamp it down and fit/screw in bigger (m8 thread i think) bolts and lift up on those ,so it comes out evenly
takes longer to get the tool box out than pull the coil pack
no point in guessing, or asking here what other people's guess is
just go check the pump(can you hear it ?) , fuel at the rail ? and plugs ;)
no lightning when cranking = no worky ;D
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No I’m asking are you getting a spark from the plugs that is the first place to look
I'll need to lift the coil pack to reach the plugs unless I'm doing something wrong.
On that Corsa there is ample slack at the connector end to allow the coil pack to be laid on its side to test a random spark plug or two that you have kicking about. :y
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A quick Google and it looks like the fuel pump is under the back seat. Do I simply pull the rubber hose off then turn over the engine and see if it spurts petrol?
This is how I checked to see with old 'carb cars' when the fuel pump was under the bonnet.
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.....and before anyone asks. I know to lift the coil pack rather than prise it off with a hammer and a screwdriver. :)
you remove the 2 torx that clamp it down and fit/screw in bigger (m8 thread i think) bolts and lift up on those ,so it comes out evenly
takes longer to get the tool box out than pull the coil pack
no point in guessing, or asking here what other people's guess is
just go check the pump(can you hear it ?) , fuel at the rail ? and plugs ;)
no lightning when cranking = no worky ;D
No . Not when I switch the ignition on. Silence.
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.....and before anyone asks. I know to lift the coil pack rather than prise it off with a hammer and a screwdriver. :)
you remove the 2 torx that clamp it down and fit/screw in bigger (m8 thread i think) bolts and lift up on those ,so it comes out evenly
takes longer to get the tool box out than pull the coil pack
no point in guessing, or asking here what other people's guess is
just go check the pump(can you hear it ?) , fuel at the rail ? and plugs ;)
no lightning when cranking = no worky ;D
Far too technical for Worzel.
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(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/DAQAAOSwj81bqITG/s-l640.jpg)
there's a valve (like on a tyre/wheel) with a black cap on , on the fuel rail
or there are 2 sticky out things on the sides of your head ,called "ears" that you can use to "listen" if the pump is running with the key in position 2
fuel pump relay is the same as Omega ,purple IIRC
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OK
if you can't hear the fuel pump with key on accessory then just bypass the relay and listen :y
pretty sure it primes on the z12xep on key on
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A quick Google and it looks like the fuel pump is under the back seat. Do I simply pull the rubber hose off then turn over the engine and see if it spurts petrol?
It's easier to disconnect on of the hoses at the engine end. Or you could use the valve intended for the purpose.....
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(https://www.corsa-c.co.uk/cdn-cgi/image/format=auto,onerror=redirect,width=1920,height=1920,fit=scale-down/http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt160/roygrave/fusebox.jpg)
relay purple bottom right ? may be yellow
2 fat terminals are 12V to the pump :y
the 2 thin terminals are for the coil of the relay ,DON'T short those ::)
info here linky (https://workshop-manuals.com/vauxhall/corsa-c/j__engine_and_engine_aggregates/dohc_petrol_engine/general/repair_instructions/check_compression_(z_10_xe_z_10_xep_with_air_conditioning_system_lhd)/)
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(https://workshop-manuals.com/vauxhall/corsa-c/images/corsa-c-2675.jpg)
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Get your colleague to listen by the pump to see if it is making a noise while you crank to engine. But.. if you simply pull the plugs you will see if they are wet if they are it’s obviously getting fuel. Whilst it’s dismantled you can then simply check for a spark at the plugs. If you have fuel and spark then it is most probably a mechanical problem
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I fear this thread is getting a little technical for poor old Lord Opti! :-\
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I fear this thread is getting a little technical for poor old Lord Opti! :-\
Yes, give the old lad a bit of a headache. Never mind, new year, new car. :y
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I fear this thread is getting a little technical for poor old Lord Opti! :-\
Yes, give the old lad a bit of a headache. Never mind, new year, new car. :y
Our thoughts should really be with the long suffering Mrs Opti! :)
He'd better get it going soon though as he'll be starting a Which New Laptop? thread otherwise... ;D
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New Year , new car don't be such a tight arse..😃😃😃
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New Year , new car don't be such a tight arse..😃😃😃
I'd have been tempted by your old Merc.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/VLcPLT6F/lordopti.jpg)
;D
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New Year , new car don't be such a tight arse..😃😃😃
I'd have been tempted by your old Merc.
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That went back to MTSV where I bought it from, he sold it almost immediately it was exceptional though.
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Get your colleague to listen by the pump to see if it is making a noise while you crank to engine. But.. if you simply pull the plugs you will see if they are wet if they are it’s obviously getting fuel. Whilst it’s dismantled you can then simply check for a spark at the plugs. If you have fuel and spark then it is most probably a mechanical problem
Filipino house boy/serf. ;)
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Get your colleague to listen by the pump to see if it is making a noise while you crank to engine. But.. if you simply pull the plugs you will see if they are wet if they are it’s obviously getting fuel. Whilst it’s dismantled you can then simply check for a spark at the plugs. If you have fuel and spark then it is most probably a mechanical problem
Filipino house boy/serf. ;)
Poor lad doesn't want to be bending over the bonnet with Opti about.
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If he buys Mrs Opti a new one then he will have to buy all his mistresses one too :o
so he should probably enquire about a fleet of these clicky (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/25L-Fabric-Shopping-Trolley-Colourful-Folding-Wheelie-Cart-with-Handle-Groceries/372728171964?hash=item56c8548dbc%3Ag%3AgE0AAOSw8PRdQvv7&LH_BIN=1&LH_ItemCondition=3)
good MPG and not too hard to work on :)
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If he buys Mrs Opti a new one then he will have to buy all his mistresses one too :o
so he should probably enquire about a fleet of these clicky (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/25L-Fabric-Shopping-Trolley-Colourful-Folding-Wheelie-Cart-with-Handle-Groceries/372728171964?hash=item56c8548dbc%3Ag%3AgE0AAOSw8PRdQvv7&LH_BIN=1&LH_ItemCondition=3)
good MPG and not too hard to work on :)
Dunno Dave, the fitting of the bag onto that frame looks a bit tricky. ???
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If he buys Mrs Opti a new one then he will have to buy all his mistresses one too :o
so he should probably enquire about a fleet of these clicky (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/25L-Fabric-Shopping-Trolley-Colourful-Folding-Wheelie-Cart-with-Handle-Groceries/372728171964?hash=item56c8548dbc%3Ag%3AgE0AAOSw8PRdQvv7&LH_BIN=1&LH_ItemCondition=3)
good MPG and not too hard to work on :)
Dunno Dave, the fitting of the bag onto that frame looks a bit tricky. ???
he could read the instructions
or start a new thread on OOF ;D
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Get under the Car and bash the f*ck out of the plastic fuel tank, preferably with someone cranking it.
Fuel pumps are common issues on these and sometimes a good wack can be a temporary fix.
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Get under the Car and bash the f*ck out of the plastic fuel tank, preferably with someone cranking it.
Fuel pumps are common issues on these and sometimes a good wack can be a temporary fix.
Tried again with a fully charged battery. SFA.....not even a glimpse of it wanting to spark into life.
I've called the RAC man with an ETA of 3-4 hours.
I'll see what he says. My guess is fuel pump. :)
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Get under the Car and bash the f*ck out of the plastic fuel tank, preferably with someone cranking it.
Fuel pumps are common issues on these and sometimes a good wack can be a temporary fix.
Tried again with a fully charged battery. SFA.....not even a glimpse of it wanting to spark into life.
I've called the RAC man with an ETA of 3-4 hours.
I'll see what he says. My guess is fuel pump. :)
You should have bought one and had it ready for him to fit when he arrived.
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Get under the Car and bash the f*ck out of the plastic fuel tank, preferably with someone cranking it.
Fuel pumps are common issues on these and sometimes a good wack can be a temporary fix.
Tried again with a fully charged battery. SFA.....not even a glimpse of it wanting to spark into life.
I've called the RAC man with an ETA of 3-4 hours.
I'll see what he says. My guess is fuel pump. :)
You should have bought one and had it ready for him to fit when he arrived.
I think it may be fuel pump.....I wouldn't bet my house on it though. :-* :-* :-*
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Lift the rear seat base, pop the circular cover off and listen......then idiot it with something soft
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Lift the rear seat base, pop the circular cover off and listen......then idiot it with something soft
His head?
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Cruel. ;D ;D
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I imagine the RAC have been out ,looked, told him to take it to a garage to be fixed
i doubt RAC would fit a fuel pump IF that is the issue
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I imagine the RAC have been out ,looked, told him to take it to a garage to be fixed
i doubt RAC would fit a fuel pump IF that is the issue
Yes, Dave, we know that :P
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I imagine the RAC have been out ,looked, told him to take it to a garage to be fixed
i doubt RAC would fit a fuel pump IF that is the issue
Yes, Dave, we know that :P
maybe they can get the mower going instead ;D
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I imagine the RAC have been out ,looked, told him to take it to a garage to be fixed
i doubt RAC would fit a fuel pump IF that is the issue
Yes, Dave, we know that :P
maybe they can get the mower going instead ;D
I'll bet he's dreading the jaaaaag coming out of warranty.
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I imagine the RAC have been out ,looked, told him to take it to a garage to be fixed
i doubt RAC would fit a fuel pump IF that is the issue
Yes, Dave, we know that :P
maybe they can get the mower going instead ;D
I'll bet he's dreading the jaaaaag coming out of warranty.
He won't bother with the Jag once he's got a new motorbike to nip down to Barnsley on ;D
he's probably knobbled the Corsa so Mrs Opti can't follow him :P
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Very helpful man from the RAC has been and tells me the crank sensor is fine. :y
He removed the rear seat and there was a lot of banging for twenty minutes or so before he declared.....it's 100% your fuel pump that is the problem.
Easy fix apparently. Ten minute job.
Right then how much for a new/ or used fuel pump? :y
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I imagine the RAC have been out ,looked, told him to take it to a garage to be fixed
i doubt RAC would fit a fuel pump IF that is the issue
Yes, Dave, we know that :P
maybe they can get the mower going instead ;D
I'll bet he's dreading the jaaaaag coming out of warranty.
I pay £105 each month.
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Very helpful man from the RAC has been and tells me the crank sensor is fine. :y
He removed the rear seat and there was a lot of banging for twenty minutes or so before he declared.....it's 100% your fuel pump that is the problem.
Easy fix apparently. Ten minute job.
Right then how much for a new/ or used fuel pump? :y
I can't be assed to look, but how many times during this thread has the fuel pump been mentioned? ::) :P ;D
Did you get him to look at the mower as well? ??? :)
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Very helpful man from the RAC has been and tells me the crank sensor is fine. :y
He removed the rear seat and there was a lot of banging for twenty minutes or so before he declared.....it's 100% your fuel pump that is the problem.
Easy fix apparently. Ten minute job.
Right then how much for a new/ or used fuel pump? :y
You'll find out when you buy it.
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Very helpful man from the RAC has been and tells me the crank sensor is fine. :y
He removed the rear seat and there was a lot of banging for twenty minutes or so before he declared.....it's 100% your fuel pump that is the problem.
Easy fix apparently. Ten minute job.
Right then how much for a new/ or used fuel pump? :y
I can't be assed to look, but how many times during this thread has the fuel pump been mentioned? ::) :P ;D
Did you get him to look at the mower as well? ??? :)
I have fixed the mower which now runs like a swiss watch. :y
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Easy fix apparently. Ten minute job.
Right then how much for a new/ or used fuel pump? :y
none to buy on your favourite site youtube :P but loads on ebay ::)
depends if you fit just the pump £16.05 delivered patent part clicky (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fuel-Pump-fits-VAUXHALL-CORSA-B-In-tank-1-0-1-2-1-4-1-6-93-to-00-Lemark-815037/333758156436?hash=item4db5894e94:g:4gIAAOSwNcBfjAw3)
or
used genuine complete assembly clicky £25 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vauxhall-Opel-Corsa-C-1-4-original-Fuel-Pump-09166836-A2C52086868-833-003-012/264745137162?hash=item3da40a340a:g:yqwAAOSwGFRezqCE)
or about £200 from vauxhall
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Easy fix apparently. Ten minute job.
Right then how much for a new/ or used fuel pump? :y
none to buy on your favourite site youtube :P but loads on ebay ::)
depends if you fit just the pump £16.05 delivered patent part clicky (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fuel-Pump-fits-VAUXHALL-CORSA-B-In-tank-1-0-1-2-1-4-1-6-93-to-00-Lemark-815037/333758156436?hash=item4db5894e94:g:4gIAAOSwNcBfjAw3)
or
used genuine complete assembly clicky £25 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vauxhall-Opel-Corsa-C-1-4-original-Fuel-Pump-09166836-A2C52086868-833-003-012/264745137162?hash=item3da40a340a:g:yqwAAOSwGFRezqCE)
or about £200 from vauxhall
Usually, the tricky part is loosening the retaining ring.
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Very helpful man from the RAC has been and tells me the crank sensor is fine. :y
He removed the rear seat and there was a lot of banging for twenty minutes or so before he declared.....it's 100% your fuel pump that is the problem.
Easy fix apparently. Ten minute job.
Right then how much for a new/ or used fuel pump? :y
I can't be assed to look, but how many times during this thread has the fuel pump been mentioned? ::) :P ;D
Did you get him to look at the mower as well? ??? :)
I have fixed the mower which now runs like a swiss watch. :y
Yeah, I'll bet it does ;D
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Usually, the tricky part is loosening the retaining ring.
Gas axe ,he don't want to grow old anyway ;)
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Easy fix apparently. Ten minute job.
Right then how much for a new/ or used fuel pump? :y
none to buy on your favourite site youtube :P but loads on ebay ::)
depends if you fit just the pump £16.05 delivered patent part clicky (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fuel-Pump-fits-VAUXHALL-CORSA-B-In-tank-1-0-1-2-1-4-1-6-93-to-00-Lemark-815037/333758156436?hash=item4db5894e94:g:4gIAAOSwNcBfjAw3)
or
used genuine complete assembly clicky £25 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vauxhall-Opel-Corsa-C-1-4-original-Fuel-Pump-09166836-A2C52086868-833-003-012/264745137162?hash=item3da40a340a:g:yqwAAOSwGFRezqCE)
or about £200 from vauxhall
Thanks Dave.
Presumably all I need is the metal pump which is hidden beneath all the plastic crap.
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Easy fix apparently. Ten minute job.
Right then how much for a new/ or used fuel pump? :y
none to buy on your favourite site youtube :P but loads on ebay ::)
depends if you fit just the pump £16.05 delivered patent part clicky (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fuel-Pump-fits-VAUXHALL-CORSA-B-In-tank-1-0-1-2-1-4-1-6-93-to-00-Lemark-815037/333758156436?hash=item4db5894e94:g:4gIAAOSwNcBfjAw3)
or
used genuine complete assembly clicky £25 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vauxhall-Opel-Corsa-C-1-4-original-Fuel-Pump-09166836-A2C52086868-833-003-012/264745137162?hash=item3da40a340a:g:yqwAAOSwGFRezqCE)
or about £200 from vauxhall
Thanks Dave.
Presumably all I need is the metal pump which is hidden beneath all the plastic crap.
if you opt for just the pump you will need to take apart the swirl pot assembly to swap the pump, this will need some fuel line clips/clamps to be replaced and you run the risk of damaging things during this process .
a used /working complete one may be easier for someone of "limited skill" :-X Not that i'm pointing fingers ;D :D
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Usually, the tricky part is loosening the retaining ring.
Gas axe ,he don't want to grow old anyway ;)
They're usually plastic ;D Which is what causes the problem; beating on 17 year old soft(ish) plastic rarely ends well. You can buy tools to do this for specific fittings - THIS (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Laser-Tools-6184-Fuel-Pump-Locking-Tool-for-GM-Renault-Nissan-/272507552407)was the first one I found - but how many DIYers are going to spend the £30 for something they're only ever going to use once? I would be very tempted to cobble something out of steel scraps welded together.
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Usually, the tricky part is loosening the retaining ring.
Gas axe ,he don't want to grow old anyway ;)
They're usually plastic ;D Which is what causes the problem; beating on 17 year old soft(ish) plastic rarely ends well. You can buy tools to do this for specific fittings - THIS (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Laser-Tools-6184-Fuel-Pump-Locking-Tool-for-GM-Renault-Nissan-/272507552407)
that's a locking tool ,not for removing the in tank pump ???
a Gas axe on a petrol tank ,plastic or metal would soon get it out ,but the time in hospital stay may use up any time saved ;D :D
an oil filter wrench ,chain or the 3 leg one if big enough should shift the ring :-\ or lots of very gentle taps round , NOT a hand-fisted clout with a FBH
a squirt of the WD40 juice before hand might help too
i've done a few and never had an issue getting it out
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Usually, the tricky part is loosening the retaining ring.
Gas axe ,he don't want to grow old anyway ;)
Pour warm water over it and tap it round with a blunt chisel, never fails. On refit wipe the mating surfaces with a bit of Vaseline (if the Lord can spare any)
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Usually, the tricky part is loosening the retaining ring.
Gas axe ,he don't want to grow old anyway ;)
Pour warm water over it and tap it round with a blunt chisel, never fails. On refit wipe the mating surfaces with a bit of Vaseline (if the Lord can spare any)
If not I'm sure he has plenty of KY in stock. :y
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I bought This (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07X9RH66R/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) for the French PoS, and had the locking ring off in seconds. Probably not the best of the best, but without it, I stood no chance. I snapped off a couple of vertical tangs trying it with a blunt chisel.
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Lord Opti is far too tight to spend that sort of cash! ;D
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this set clicky (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Professional-Piece-Three-Filter-Wrench/dp/B006B3O6LO/ref=sr_1_24?crid=20AV3JGGZJUJ&dchild=1&keywords=oil+filter+wrenches&qid=1610048483&s=automotive&sprefix=oil+%2Cautomotive%2C161&sr=1-24) open to a max 133mm :)
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Lord Opti is far too tight to spend that sort of cash! ;D
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£4.89 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HEAVY-DUTY-CAR-ENGINE-OIL-FILTER-CHAIN-GRIP-WRENCH-REMOVER-STEEL-REMOVAL-TOOL/233398785779?epid=21017016580&hash=item3657a6d6f3:g:ZswAAOSwsYpaGXng)
Lord Opti is far too tight to spend that sort of cash! ;D
there you go , save you copy n pasting your reply again
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£4.89 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HEAVY-DUTY-CAR-ENGINE-OIL-FILTER-CHAIN-GRIP-WRENCH-REMOVER-STEEL-REMOVAL-TOOL/233398785779?epid=21017016580&hash=item3657a6d6f3:g:ZswAAOSwsYpaGXng)
Lord Opti is far too tight to spend that sort of cash! ;D
there you go , save you copy n pasting your reply again
Maybe... :-\
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I bought This (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07X9RH66R/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) for the French PoS, and had the locking ring off in seconds. Probably not the best of the best, but without it, I stood no chance. I snapped off a couple of vertical tangs trying it with a blunt chisel.
For the really tight out there, you could Amazon it, use it and return citing poor quality (hardly a lie when talking about most Amazon tools).
I'm sure Mr bezos would be good for it ;D :-X
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I bought This (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07X9RH66R/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) for the French PoS, and had the locking ring off in seconds. Probably not the best of the best, but without it, I stood no chance. I snapped off a couple of vertical tangs trying it with a blunt chisel.
For the really tight out there, you could Amazon it, use it and return citing poor quality (hardly a lie when talking about most Amazon tools).
I'm sure Mr bezos would be good for it ;D :-X
Amazon aren't taking any returns until Jeff is the richest man in the world again. Elon Musk has taken that mantle from him, though fick knows how. Tesla's shares have rocketed but, in my opinion, are as volatile as Bitcoin (which climbed to over $40,000 yesterday, from $30,000 last week). One fallout with the Chinese and Musk will be visiting a food bank.
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I bought This (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07X9RH66R/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) for the French PoS, and had the locking ring off in seconds. Probably not the best of the best, but without it, I stood no chance. I snapped off a couple of vertical tangs trying it with a blunt chisel.
For the really tight out there, you could Amazon it, use it and return citing poor quality (hardly a lie when talking about most Amazon tools).
I'm sure Mr bezos would be good for it ;D :-X
According to the news he is not as wealthy as he once was. Poor lamb.
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I bought This (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07X9RH66R/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) for the French PoS, and had the locking ring off in seconds. Probably not the best of the best, but without it, I stood no chance. I snapped off a couple of vertical tangs trying it with a blunt chisel.
For the really tight out there, you could Amazon it, use it and return citing poor quality (hardly a lie when talking about most Amazon tools).
I'm sure Mr bezos would be good for it ;D :-X
Amazon aren't taking any returns until Jeff is the richest man in the world again. Elon Musk has taken that mantle from him, though fick knows how. Tesla's shares have rocketed but, in my opinion, are as volatile as Bitcoin (which climbed to over $40,000 yesterday, from $30,000 last week). One fallout with the Chinese and Musk will be visiting a food bank.
I have invested in Bitcoin..... :y
Also the Wellesly................ :'( :'( :'( :'(
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I bought This (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07X9RH66R/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) for the French PoS, and had the locking ring off in seconds. Probably not the best of the best, but without it, I stood no chance. I snapped off a couple of vertical tangs trying it with a blunt chisel.
For the really tight out there, you could Amazon it, use it and return citing poor quality (hardly a lie when talking about most Amazon tools).
I'm sure Mr bezos would be good for it ;D :-X
Amazon aren't taking any returns until Jeff is the richest man in the world again. Elon Musk has taken that mantle from him, though fick knows how. Tesla's shares have rocketed but, in my opinion, are as volatile as Bitcoin (which climbed to over $40,000 yesterday, from $30,000 last week). One fallout with the Chinese and Musk will be visiting a food bank.
Most people are only to or three payslips from not paying the rent/mortgage...
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I bought This (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07X9RH66R/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) for the French PoS, and had the locking ring off in seconds. Probably not the best of the best, but without it, I stood no chance. I snapped off a couple of vertical tangs trying it with a blunt chisel.
For the really tight out there, you could Amazon it, use it and return citing poor quality (hardly a lie when talking about most Amazon tools).
I'm sure Mr bezos would be good for it ;D :-X
According to the news he is not as wealthy as he once was. Poor lamb.
His ex has been dishing out her divorce settlement like candy! :)
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OK......removed the ring quite easily. All it took was a knackered screwdriver and a large hammer to rotate and remove it.
I have removed the twin fuel pipes without breaking the fragile clips. Electrical connector has been unplugged.
Too dark to continue now. Should I pull out the whole fuel pump assembly in one go?
What, exactly, do I need to replace?........just the pump inside the plastic casing?......or the whole ball of wax?
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it's up to you
easier to replace the lot as 1 unit but only the pump is U/S
careful if you have opened the tank though. maybe wise to loosely put the ring back etc until you have the parts ;)
venting all the fumes into the car while you wait a week for a part to arrive could be quite a firework display when you open the door (spark from anything electrical ,interior light, central locking motor ,the cigar you are smoking)
probably won't blow up ,but better to be safe than sorry dead and all that ;D
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it's up to you
easier to replace the lot as 1 unit but only the pump is U/S
careful if you have opened the tank though. maybe wise to loosely put the ring back etc until you have the parts ;)
venting all the fumes into the car while you wait a week for a part to arrive could be quite a firework display when you open the door (spark from anything electrical ,interior light, central locking motor ,the cigar you are smoking)
probably won't blow up ,but better to be safe than sorry dead and all that ;D
Thanks Dave. Mrs Opti recently took out life insurance on me. I wonder if she is hoping my demise will come sooner rather than later. :) :)
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Mrs Opti recently took out life insurance on me. I wonder if she is hoping my demise will come sooner rather than later. :) :)
you got her hopes up showing interest in a 1200cc motorbike ::)
now she'll have to revert back to poisoning you with small doses of glycol ethanol anti-freeze in your food ::)
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OK......removed the ring quite easily. All it took was a knackered screwdriver and a large hammer to rotate and remove it.
I have removed the twin fuel pipes without breaking the fragile clips. Electrical connector has been unplugged.
Too dark to continue now. Should I pull out the whole fuel pump assembly in one go?
What, exactly, do I need to replace?........just the pump inside the plastic casing?......or the whole ball of wax?
Haven't you got a candle or gas light or something :y
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Mrs Opti recently took out life insurance on me. I wonder if she is hoping my demise will come sooner rather than later. :) :)
you got her hopes up showing interest in a 1200cc motorbike ::)
now she'll have to revert back to poisoning you with small doses of glycol ethanol anti-freeze in your food ::)
I think she could go 'full bunny boiler' if I piss her off too often. :)
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OK......removed the ring quite easily. All it took was a knackered screwdriver and a large hammer to rotate and remove it.
I have removed the twin fuel pipes without breaking the fragile clips. Electrical connector has been unplugged.
Too dark to continue now. Should I pull out the whole fuel pump assembly in one go?
What, exactly, do I need to replace?........just the pump inside the plastic casing?......or the whole ball of wax?
Haven't you got a candle or gas light or something :y
Strange.....my wife said the exact same thing. :)
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Just the plastic (usually white) insert, no need for the cover plate and bits
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Haven't you got a candle or gas light or something :y
If not he could put a wick into the tank, light that :y
that should provide enough light to see what you are doing ...
briefly :o
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OK......removed the ring quite easily. All it took was a knackered screwdriver and a large hammer to rotate and remove it.
I have removed the twin fuel pipes without breaking the fragile clips. Electrical connector has been unplugged.
Too dark to continue now. Should I pull out the whole fuel pump assembly in one go?
What, exactly, do I need to replace?........just the pump inside the plastic casing?......or the whole ball of wax?
Pull the assembly out and inspect it. If you think you can change the pump, which may require some basic mechanical fitting, then do so - it's much cheaper. If you can't, then smash the piggy bank and replace the whole part.
You have done the worst part of the job, which is getting the pump free of the tank.
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Dunno if the float is the same on the Corsa as other's I've done, but mark the orientation of the assembly on the car so that when it is refitted, it is facing exactly the same way. You don't want the float getting stuck on baffles/side of tank. :y