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Title: Mental health issues
Post by: STEMO on 28 January 2021, 08:47:43
1 in 5 young children have mental health issues, according to the children's commissioner, this rises to 1 in 4 in 16-22's. Parents, forced to look after their children from home, are suffering from mental health issues. University students, advised to attend as normal in September, then locked in their rooms, are suffering from mental health issues. Teachers, so worried they may catch the virus at school, have mental health issues. Frontline NHS workers have severe mental health issues.
We are a nation of fickin nutters, apparently. But what would I know? I have mental health issues.  :(
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: Varche on 28 January 2021, 10:22:59
I think you are right. Most people I suspect have become mobile Health and safety experts . From steering clear of other people as you go about to things like carrying wipes to disinfect key pads, door handles prior to use.

I know two people who now have serious trouble from disinfecting their hands after every customer transaction from the early days last year.

Trouble is it is an unknown ( even now) . We desperately would like to visit Friends and family in the UK due to various health issues. Not being able to make plans or indeed is it really a good idea to contemplate travel this year is quite stressful.

I suspect only a very few insular or hard nosed folk arent suffering some form of mental anxiety. Plus of course this is fuelled by each country having a media fest on a daily basis.

I suspect the suicide rate will go up significantly. On that subject we live in one of the highest suicide rate town areas in the whole of Spain. Poor job prospects etc. Strangely the peak is in early summer and not winter as you might think. What seasonal work there is is mostly winter and Spring. That might be the reason
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 28 January 2021, 10:25:42
It's life Jim, but not as we know it.
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: B52 on 28 January 2021, 10:41:37
Just for comparison, I can vaguely recall this -

https://youtu.be/60uRgywKhKk

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosenhan_experiment

FWIW, I think we're generally far more resilient to stress than we (or the media) might believe.
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: STEMO on 28 January 2021, 10:56:53
Talking of mental health issues:

Family 'did Asda shop in blue light ambulance' https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-55813850
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 28 January 2021, 11:34:33
Just for comparison, I can vaguely recall this -

https://youtu.be/60uRgywKhKk

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosenhan_experiment

FWIW, I think we're generally far more resilient to stress than we (or the media) might believe.
There isn't much that can't be fixed with sleep and chicken soup ;)
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 28 January 2021, 11:42:24
Yes, children especially have been badly affected.

One of my grandsons who I see regularly is showing many signs of agitation and uncertainty.  He is only 10, but can go from high to low in mood very quickly, with tears.  His mum has managed to get him back into school as he has a severely autistic brother, who keeps them awake most nights, and so the 10 year old is classed as in special need for going to school, but the underlying issues are still there.

As someone of 'older years' I think I am qualified to say that I am fed up with the massive media, and other, hands ringing over elderly deaths due to COVID.  FFS we are going to die eventually, and once you get to our older years it is not too far away.  People die in numbers to the tune of 500,000+ every year, so we have to accept the inevitable for us and our elderly loved ones.  I did not shed a tear when my parents died, both at 88, admittedly not from COVID, but what is the difference, as they had enjoyed their long lives and had to die sometime.

No, it is the YOUNG I worry about for both the short term and long term.  So enough of constant playing on how many old folk deaths there have been, and lets consider the help the young can be given, especially in terms of mental heath.

Maybe I have a "hard" view on it all as I know that many relatives are being understandably broken with emotion over their losses, but life is not guaranteed and as adults we should understand that.  With the media going on and on about 120K deaths is doing nothing positive for anyone.

Just assist the young! ;)
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: TheBoy on 28 January 2021, 12:54:59
We have successfully bred a nation that cannot support itself.  And then insist on pandering to those who claim mental health issues. And its become an easy way of being a lazy bastard, rather that the old favourite of a (unprovable) bad back*.

As always, my solution works. It solves everything.



*She's been having to give my back regular doses of biofreeze this morning  :-[
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: STEMO on 28 January 2021, 13:05:32
We have successfully bred a nation that cannot support itself.  And then insist on pandering to those who claim mental health issues. And its become an easy way of being a lazy bastard, rather that the old favourite of a (unprovable) bad back*.

As always, my solution works. It solves everything.



*She's been having to give my back regular doses of biofreeze this morning  :-[
Has she tried it on your head? Might cool your brain down a little  ;D
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 28 January 2021, 13:06:14
Yes, children especially have been badly affected.

One of my grandsons who I see regularly is showing many signs of agitation and uncertainty.  He is only 10, but can go from high to low in mood very quickly, with tears.  His mum has managed to get him back into school as he has a severely autistic brother, who keeps them awake most nights, and so the 10 year old is classed as in special need for going to school, but the underlying issues are still there.

As someone of 'older years' I think I am qualified to say that I am fed up with the massive media, and other, hands ringing over elderly deaths due to COVID.  FFS we are going to die eventually, and once you get to our older years it is not too far away.  People die in numbers to the tune of 500,000+ every year, so we have to accept the inevitable for us and our elderly loved ones.  I did not shed a tear when my parents died, both at 88, admittedly not from COVID, but what is the difference, as they had enjoyed their long lives and had to die sometime.

No, it is the YOUNG I worry about for both the short term and long term.  So enough of constant playing on how many old folk deaths there have been, and lets consider the help the young can be given, especially in terms of mental heath.

Maybe I have a "hard" view on it all as I know that many relatives are being understandably broken with emotion over their losses, but life is not guaranteed and as adults we should understand that.  With the media going on and on about 120K deaths is doing nothing positive for anyone.

Just assist the young! ;)

Yes Lizzie.......100,000 covid sniffle deaths, but apparently 77% were over 75 years. A large number of these would have dropped off the perch anyway.

Not to mention  younger covid fatalities who died of covid following a fatal road accident......or the skydiver who died of covid after his parachute failed to open.

The real figure is a fraction of 100,000.

Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: STEMO on 28 January 2021, 13:10:20
Yes, children especially have been badly affected.

One of my grandsons who I see regularly is showing many signs of agitation and uncertainty.  He is only 10, but can go from high to low in mood very quickly, with tears.  His mum has managed to get him back into school as he has a severely autistic brother, who keeps them awake most nights, and so the 10 year old is classed as in special need for going to school, but the underlying issues are still there.

As someone of 'older years' I think I am qualified to say that I am fed up with the massive media, and other, hands ringing over elderly deaths due to COVID.  FFS we are going to die eventually, and once you get to our older years it is not too far away.  People die in numbers to the tune of 500,000+ every year, so we have to accept the inevitable for us and our elderly loved ones.  I did not shed a tear when my parents died, both at 88, admittedly not from COVID, but what is the difference, as they had enjoyed their long lives and had to die sometime.

No, it is the YOUNG I worry about for both the short term and long term.  So enough of constant playing on how many old folk deaths there have been, and lets consider the help the young can be given, especially in terms of mental heath.

Maybe I have a "hard" view on it all as I know that many relatives are being understandably broken with emotion over their losses, but life is not guaranteed and as adults we should understand that.  With the media going on and on about 120K deaths is doing nothing positive for anyone.

Just assist the young! ;)

Yes Lizzie.......100,000 covid sniffle deaths, but apparently 77% were over 75 years. A large number of these would have dropped off the perch anyway.

Not to mention  younger covid fatalities who died of covid following a fatal road accident......or the skydiver who died of covid after his parachute failed to open.

The real figure is a fraction of 100,000.
Why do you think the government are doing this? To get the chip into everybody? To piss the population off? For a laugh?
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 28 January 2021, 13:13:00
I think you are right. Most people I suspect have become mobile Health and safety experts . From steering clear of other people as you go about to things like carrying wipes to disinfect key pads, door handles prior to use.

I know two people who now have serious trouble from disinfecting their hands after every customer transaction from the early days last year.

Trouble is it is an unknown ( even now) . We desperately would like to visit Friends and family in the UK due to various health issues. Not being able to make plans or indeed is it really a good idea to contemplate travel this year is quite stressful.

I suspect only a very few insular or hard nosed folk arent suffering some form of mental anxiety. Plus of course this is fuelled by each country having a media fest on a daily basis.

I suspect the suicide rate will go up significantly. On that subject we live in one of the highest suicide rate town areas in the whole of Spain. Poor job prospects etc. Strangely the peak is in early summer and not winter as you might think. What seasonal work there is is mostly winter and Spring. That might be the reason

Yes. Excessive hand washing and other compulsive rituals can be a sign of excessive anxiety......and all this extra covid washing is likely to make such compulsions worse.

I find it odd (and amusing) when I see one person driving a car while wearing a mask......Why? :)
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 28 January 2021, 13:14:55
Yes, children especially have been badly affected.

One of my grandsons who I see regularly is showing many signs of agitation and uncertainty.  He is only 10, but can go from high to low in mood very quickly, with tears.  His mum has managed to get him back into school as he has a severely autistic brother, who keeps them awake most nights, and so the 10 year old is classed as in special need for going to school, but the underlying issues are still there.

As someone of 'older years' I think I am qualified to say that I am fed up with the massive media, and other, hands ringing over elderly deaths due to COVID.  FFS we are going to die eventually, and once you get to our older years it is not too far away.  People die in numbers to the tune of 500,000+ every year, so we have to accept the inevitable for us and our elderly loved ones.  I did not shed a tear when my parents died, both at 88, admittedly not from COVID, but what is the difference, as they had enjoyed their long lives and had to die sometime.

No, it is the YOUNG I worry about for both the short term and long term.  So enough of constant playing on how many old folk deaths there have been, and lets consider the help the young can be given, especially in terms of mental heath.

Maybe I have a "hard" view on it all as I know that many relatives are being understandably broken with emotion over their losses, but life is not guaranteed and as adults we should understand that.  With the media going on and on about 120K deaths is doing nothing positive for anyone.

Just assist the young! ;)

Yes Lizzie.......100,000 covid sniffle deaths, but apparently 77% were over 75 years. A large number of these would have dropped off the perch anyway.

Not to mention  younger covid fatalities who died of covid following a fatal road accident......or the skydiver who died of covid after his parachute failed to open.

The real figure is a fraction of 100,000.
Why do you think the government are doing this? To get the chip into everybody? To piss the population off? For a laugh?

I hope you don't believe this..... ;D
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 28 January 2021, 13:18:25
Are we talking about the same 'experts' who are staring to suggest that 'double masking' could be a good idea whilst conveniently ignoring the fact that if they truly wanted to limit the spread, full face coverings should be worn in order to protect our eyes from contaminated droplets?

Using fear to control people isn't doing anyone any good. :-X
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 28 January 2021, 13:25:18
Just for comparison, I can vaguely recall this -

https://youtu.be/60uRgywKhKk

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosenhan_experiment

FWIW, I think we're generally far more resilient to stress than we (or the media) might believe.

I agree. But stress/worry/anxiety/ mental health issues appears to be more of a thing here in the west than it is in, say, Africa. Why?



Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 28 January 2021, 13:32:24
Are we talking about the same 'experts' who are staring to suggest that 'double masking' could be a good idea whilst conveniently ignoring the fact that if they truly wanted to limit the spread, full face coverings should be worn in order to protect our eyes from contaminated droplets?

Using fear to control people isn't doing anyone any good. :-X

Especially with those people of a more 'suggestible' nature.  Some people can be prone to catastrophise and turn a small easily managed problem into an end of the world scenario.

 
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 28 January 2021, 13:38:33
They have more important shit to worry about ;)
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: dave the builder on 28 January 2021, 14:05:10
Are we talking about the same 'experts' who are staring to suggest that 'double masking' could be a good idea whilst conveniently ignoring the fact that if they truly wanted to limit the spread, full face coverings should be worn in order to protect our eyes from contaminated droplets?

Using fear to control people isn't doing anyone any good. :-X

Especially with those people of a more 'suggestible' nature.  Some people can be prone to catastrophise and turn a small easily managed problem into an end of the world scenario.
We're all gona die  :o

I've said a few times that the covid death numbers based on kicking the bucket within 28 days of a positive test is naff  :(
but excess deaths gives an indication of the seriousness of it .
now Doctors are getting better at treating Chinese Virus ,chances are it will be beyond 28 days when you do die , when Covid has raped most of your organs, blood clots etc

we don't know the long term effects of the Chinese Virus ,vaccines ,deaths from NON covid related illness who can't get to hospital etc etc etc


Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 28 January 2021, 14:16:51
Are we talking about the same 'experts' who are staring to suggest that 'double masking' could be a good idea whilst conveniently ignoring the fact that if they truly wanted to limit the spread, full face coverings should be worn in order to protect our eyes from contaminated droplets?

Using fear to control people isn't doing anyone any good. :-X

Especially with those people of a more 'suggestible' nature.  Some people can be prone to catastrophise and turn a small easily managed problem into an end of the world scenario.
We're all gona die  :o

I've said a few times that the covid death numbers based on kicking the bucket within 28 days of a positive test is naff  :(
but excess deaths gives an indication of the seriousness of it .
now Doctors are getting better at treating Chinese Virus ,chances are it will be beyond 28 days when you do die , when Covid has raped most of your organs, blood clots etc

we don't know the long term effects of the Chinese Virus ,vaccines ,deaths from NON covid related illness who can't get to hospital etc etc etc

Sorry Dave, but you are not allowed to refer to covid this way. It's racist and every other 'ist' there is. You need to be more woke.

I believe the term 'kung flu' is still considered PC. :) ;)
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: dave the builder on 28 January 2021, 14:28:53


Sorry Dave, but you are not allowed to refer to covid this way. It's racist and every other 'ist' there is. You need to be more woke.

I believe the term 'kung flu' is still considered PC. :) ;)
No , It's a VIrus that came from China  ::)
Donald said so ,it's been on the news
is eating "French bread"  racist or Brussel sprouts  :-\
Plus ,I'm reminding everyone which slit eye, rice n bat munching oiks are responsible for the current sh!tstorm  ;D :D
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: VXL V6 on 28 January 2021, 14:36:12
Just for comparison, I can vaguely recall this -

https://youtu.be/60uRgywKhKk

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosenhan_experiment

FWIW, I think we're generally far more resilient to stress than we (or the media) might believe.

I agree. But stress/worry/anxiety/ mental health issues appears to be more of a thing here in the west than it is in, say, Africa. Why?

No idea..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OAvQUD6O5s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OAvQUD6O5s)
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 28 January 2021, 15:33:12
Genuine mental health problems are often horrific for the sufferers and for their loved ones. Believe me, I know.
The problem now is that like many other things, it is being demeaned by the current fad of, if everything in life isnt perfect and ideal, then you must have mental health issues.
If you cant always get what you want, if your a bit bored or fed up, you have mental health issues.
Its fickin disfraceful.  >:(
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: VXL V6 on 28 January 2021, 16:15:21
Genuine mental health problems are often horrific for the sufferers and for their loved ones. Believe me, I know.
The problem now is that like many other things, it is being demeaned by the current fad of, if everything in life isnt perfect and ideal, then you must have mental health issues.
If you cant always get what you want, if your a bit bored or fed up, you have mental health issues.
Its fickin disfraceful.  >:(

Exactly ^^ this.
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: TheBoy on 28 January 2021, 16:20:45
Genuine mental health problems are often horrific for the sufferers and for their loved ones. Believe me, I know.
The problem now is that like many other things, it is being demeaned by the current fad of, if everything in life isnt perfect and ideal, then you must have mental health issues.
If you cant always get what you want, if your a bit bored or fed up, you have mental health issues.
Its fickin disfraceful.  >:(
I suspect that had it been a thin back in the 70s, all of us would have been diagnosed with something more PC than me being a simpleton.  After all, nobody here has all their dogs on one lead, do they?

But because we couldn't be labelled with anything other than a simpleton or a spaz, which we had to accept rather than get all upset over, we all came out mostly OK.

Thats the difference.
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 28 January 2021, 17:00:29
Genuine mental health problems are often horrific for the sufferers and for their loved ones. Believe me, I know.
The problem now is that like many other things, it is being demeaned by the current fad of, if everything in life isnt perfect and ideal, then you must have mental health issues.
If you cant always get what you want, if your a bit bored or fed up, you have mental health issues.
Its fickin disfraceful.  >:(
I suspect that had it been a thin back in the 70s, all of us would have been diagnosed with something more PC than me being a simpleton.  After all, nobody here has all their dogs on one lead, do they?

But because we couldn't be labelled with anything other than a simpleton or a spaz, which we had to accept rather than get all upset over, we all came out mostly OK.

Thats the difference.

Reminds me of those three-wheeled spaz chariots that used to be around in the seventies. Always finished in a fetching shade of pale blue if memory serves. :)
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: STEMO on 28 January 2021, 17:16:40
Genuine mental health problems are often horrific for the sufferers and for their loved ones. Believe me, I know.
The problem now is that like many other things, it is being demeaned by the current fad of, if everything in life isnt perfect and ideal, then you must have mental health issues.
If you cant always get what you want, if your a bit bored or fed up, you have mental health issues.
Its fickin disfraceful.  >:(
I suspect that had it been a thin back in the 70s, all of us would have been diagnosed with something more PC than me being a simpleton.  After all, nobody here has all their dogs on one lead, do they?

But because we couldn't be labelled with anything other than a simpleton or a spaz, which we had to accept rather than get all upset over, we all came out mostly OK.

Thats the difference.

Reminds me of those three-wheeled spaz chariots that used to be around in the seventies. Always finished in a fetching shade of pale blue if memory serves. :)
I'm a bit worried about your memory, actually. You must have mentioned that fact at least five times, possibly a lot more. Is your short term memory on it's way out?
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 28 January 2021, 17:21:24
Genuine mental health problems are often horrific for the sufferers and for their loved ones. Believe me, I know.
The problem now is that like many other things, it is being demeaned by the current fad of, if everything in life isnt perfect and ideal, then you must have mental health issues.
If you cant always get what you want, if your a bit bored or fed up, you have mental health issues.
Its fickin disfraceful.  >:(
I suspect that had it been a thin back in the 70s, all of us would have been diagnosed with something more PC than me being a simpleton.  After all, nobody here has all their dogs on one lead, do they?

But because we couldn't be labelled with anything other than a simpleton or a spaz, which we had to accept rather than get all upset over, we all came out mostly OK.

Thats the difference.

Reminds me of those three-wheeled spaz chariots that used to be around in the seventies. Always finished in a fetching shade of pale blue if memory serves. :)
I'm a bit worried about your memory, actually. You must have mentioned that fact at least five times, possibly a lot more. Is your short term memory on it's way out?

Remembered what?

I can't remember what I have just remembered. :)

What was it again?
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: Rangie on 28 January 2021, 17:29:00
Have a few sherbets, always works for me but I've been crackers for years..😁
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: Entwood on 28 January 2021, 17:41:22
Genuine mental health problems are often horrific for the sufferers and for their loved ones. Believe me, I know.
The problem now is that like many other things, it is being demeaned by the current fad of, if everything in life isnt perfect and ideal, then you must have mental health issues.
If you cant always get what you want, if your a bit bored or fed up, you have mental health issues.
Its fickin disfraceful.  >:(

^^^  Totally agree

It now seems to be a requirement of everyone to have some sort of "label" they can quote on farcebook ... be it "my kids have abcdefg" to "I have xyz" as it simply enables them to blame someone or something else or "the system" if they can ...  rather than taking responsibility for their own lives.

It is also seen by many as a way of trying to get extra cash from benefits/charities etc etc, and now a free laptop for their poor little offspring....
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: Rangie on 28 January 2021, 19:01:12
A lot of prisoners used to suffer from mental health issues so they claimed ,personally I never believed the whining bastards.
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 28 January 2021, 19:10:35
A lot of prisoners used to suffer from mental health issues so they claimed ,personally I never believed the whining bastards.

I know some women prisoners are worried about 'trans women' ( essentially men with tackle still intact ) entering into the women's prison system because they identify as women. Is this a good idea, Mr Rangie?

What is your view?
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: STEMO on 28 January 2021, 19:11:41
A lot of prisoners used to suffer from mental health issues so they claimed ,personally I never believed the whining bastards.

I know some women prisoners are worried about 'trans women' ( essentially men with tackle still intact ) entering into the women's prison system because they identify as women. Is this a good idea, Mr Rangie?

What is your view?
Why would they be worried, surely you must think they'd be gagging for it?
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 28 January 2021, 19:17:48
It looks like it has been going on since 2016.

It appears some women (real one's) have been raped by trans women (chicks with dicks)

Still, we need to look after the minorities. :-\ and the trans women would prefer not to go to a male prison where they would get the shit kicked out of them.

My view is that if you have a cock and balls you go to a male prison and if you have a fanny and tits you should go to a female prison. :)

But perhaps I'm being too gender specific.... :D

Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: Rangie on 28 January 2021, 19:19:38
There were a couple at my nick who " were changing" but not in any way did they look female, at that time it would not have been possible for them to be jailed at a female establishment which I've got to say I would agree with, but that may be different now.
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 28 January 2021, 19:22:40
There were a couple at my nick who " were changing" but not in any way did they look female, at that time it would not have been possible for them to be jailed at a female establishment which I've got to say I would agree with, but that may be different now.

It has changed. :-X
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 28 January 2021, 19:23:13
A lot of prisoners used to suffer from mental health issues so they claimed ,personally I never believed the whining bastards.

I know some women prisoners are worried about 'trans women' ( essentially men with tackle still intact ) entering into the women's prison system because they identify as women. Is this a good idea, Mr Rangie?

What is your view?
Why would they be worried, surely you must think they'd be gagging for it?

Yes and as a bonus they might get a nice pair of silicone titties with their penis!  ;D
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 28 January 2021, 19:27:44
It seems you merely need to pop on a fetching frock and say you now identify as a woman.

Next thing you know  you are showering with a bunch of real women with a raging hard on. :D
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: STEMO on 28 January 2021, 19:27:58
A lot of prisoners used to suffer from mental health issues so they claimed ,personally I never believed the whining bastards.

I know some women prisoners are worried about 'trans women' ( essentially men with tackle still intact ) entering into the women's prison system because they identify as women. Is this a good idea, Mr Rangie?

What is your view?
Why would they be worried, surely you must think they'd be gagging for it?

Yes and as a bonus they might get a nice pair of silicone titties with their penis!  ;D
Something strange is stirring inside me..... ;D
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 28 January 2021, 19:29:04
It seems you merely need to pop on a fetching frock and say you now identify as a woman.

Next thing you know  you are showering with a bunch of real women with a raging hard on. :D

Who are all bending over for the soap!  ;D
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 28 January 2021, 19:30:31
It seems you merely need to pop on a fetching frock and say you now identify as a woman.

Next thing you know  you are showering with a bunch of real women with a raging hard on. :D

Who are all bending over for the soap!  ;D

I really don't think prison would be all that bad, Tig...... ;D ;D
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: STEMO on 28 January 2021, 19:30:44
It seems you merely need to pop on a fetching frock and say you now identify as a woman.

Next thing you know  you are showering with a bunch of real women with a raging hard on. :D

Who are all bending over for the soap!  ;D
OOOOOOOOOO...........🥵
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: STEMO on 28 January 2021, 19:31:39
It seems you merely need to pop on a fetching frock and say you now identify as a woman.

Next thing you know  you are showering with a bunch of real women with a raging hard on. :D

Who are all bending over for the soap!  ;D

I really don't think prison would be all that bad, Tig...... ;D ;D
Depends on your choice of dress. I'll bet yours would be an off the shoulder number.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 28 January 2021, 19:35:14
It seems you merely need to pop on a fetching frock and say you now identify as a woman.

Next thing you know  you are showering with a bunch of real women with a raging hard on. :D

Who are all bending over for the soap!  ;D

I really don't think prison would be all that bad, Tig...... ;D ;D
Depends on your choice of dress. I'll bet yours would be an off the shoulder number.  ;D ;D

Well, given the choice of being rogered (gang raped) in the shower by a group of hardened crims, or gently washing the back of a svelte female, I'd be willing to wear any dress to prove I identify as a woman.
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 28 January 2021, 19:41:16
Genuine mental health problems are often horrific for the sufferers and for their loved ones. Believe me, I know.
The problem now is that like many other things, it is being demeaned by the current fad of, if everything in life isnt perfect and ideal, then you must have mental health issues.
If you cant always get what you want, if your a bit bored or fed up, you have mental health issues.
Its fickin disfraceful.  >:(
I suspect that had it been a thin back in the 70s, all of us would have been diagnosed with something more PC than me being a simpleton.  After all, nobody here has all their dogs on one lead, do they?

But because we couldn't be labelled with anything other than a simpleton or a spaz, which we had to accept rather than get all upset over, we all came out mostly OK.

Thats the difference.

All explained hilariously here.  :y ;D ;D.............bad language included.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GyUmJBqNus
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: Rangie on 28 January 2021, 19:53:38
I can tell you a story one night I was " guesting" on a different wing & it was feeding time I was letting the cons out to collect their meals when the Senior Officer pulled me up because I let one out wearing flip flops ( health & safety issues) but in front of him was the he/she all dolled up in heels & a dress etc, so I answered  no flip flops but it's okay to look like the sugar plum fairy ! He wasn't amused but my reputation had preceded me so he knew what to expect, the world has gone totally mad..😁
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 28 January 2021, 20:00:13
It seems you merely need to pop on a fetching frock and say you now identify as a woman.

Next thing you know  you are showering with a bunch of real women with a raging hard on. :D

Who are all bending over for the soap!  ;D

I really don't think prison would be all that bad, Tig...... ;D ;D
Depends on your choice of dress. I'll bet yours would be an off the shoulder number.  ;D ;D

Well, given the choice of being rogered (gang raped) in the shower by a group of hardened crims, or gently washing the back of a svelte female, I'd be willing to wear any dress to prove I identify as a woman.

Trouble is that I'd bet that the svelte cutie that you are eyeing up in the shower would quickly get shoved aside by a hard as nails butch type with legs and arms like tree trunks, who would demand to be serviced or she'd rip your dick off!  :o  :P 

You'd soon go into those showers a broken 'man' ;D
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: STEMO on 28 January 2021, 20:06:51
It seems you merely need to pop on a fetching frock and say you now identify as a woman.

Next thing you know  you are showering with a bunch of real women with a raging hard on. :D

Who are all bending over for the soap!  ;D

I really don't think prison would be all that bad, Tig...... ;D ;D
Depends on your choice of dress. I'll bet yours would be an off the shoulder number.  ;D ;D

Well, given the choice of being rogered (gang raped) in the shower by a group of hardened crims, or gently washing the back of a svelte female, I'd be willing to wear any dress to prove I identify as a woman.

Trouble is that I'd bet that the svelte cutie that you are eyeing up in the shower would quickly get shoved aside by a hard as nails butch type with legs and arms like tree trunks, who would demand to be serviced or she'd rip your dick off!  :o  :P 

You'd soon go into those showers a broken 'man' ;D
Are you and Opti having your own personal fantasy here?
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 28 January 2021, 20:16:21
It seems you merely need to pop on a fetching frock and say you now identify as a woman.

Next thing you know  you are showering with a bunch of real women with a raging hard on. :D

Who are all bending over for the soap!  ;D

I really don't think prison would be all that bad, Tig...... ;D ;D
Depends on your choice of dress. I'll bet yours would be an off the shoulder number.  ;D ;D

Well, given the choice of being rogered (gang raped) in the shower by a group of hardened crims, or gently washing the back of a svelte female, I'd be willing to wear any dress to prove I identify as a woman.

Trouble is that I'd bet that the svelte cutie that you are eyeing up in the shower would quickly get shoved aside by a hard as nails butch type with legs and arms like tree trunks, who would demand to be serviced or she'd rip your dick off!  :o  :P 

You'd soon go into those showers a broken 'man' ;D
Are you and Opti having your own personal fantasy here?

No it's all about mental health Uncle Stemo!  :)
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 28 January 2021, 20:22:22
It seems you merely need to pop on a fetching frock and say you now identify as a woman.

Next thing you know  you are showering with a bunch of real women with a raging hard on. :D

Who are all bending over for the soap!  ;D

I really don't think prison would be all that bad, Tig...... ;D ;D
Depends on your choice of dress. I'll bet yours would be an off the shoulder number.  ;D ;D

Well, given the choice of being rogered (gang raped) in the shower by a group of hardened crims, or gently washing the back of a svelte female, I'd be willing to wear any dress to prove I identify as a woman.

Trouble is that I'd bet that the svelte cutie that you are eyeing up in the shower would quickly get shoved aside by a hard as nails butch type with legs and arms like tree trunks, who would demand to be serviced or she'd rip your dick off!  :o  :P 

You'd soon go into those showers a broken 'man' ;D
Are you and Opti having your own personal fantasy here?

Or just exposing the common feelings of inadequacy of men that many of you seem to have, especially when considering men that look like women, or due to an accident of nature were born with the wrong bodies vs brain?

You all worry about strange things at times, but no real man like I know (most ;D ;D) of you are should have nightmares about trans people. They live their lives you live yours.  As a women I have no worries about individuals that have gender issues.  It is men I worry about, who are naturally sexual predators and treat women as third class citizens! ::) ::)  Most of your sex are lovely........but..... ;D ;)
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: STEMO on 28 January 2021, 20:26:18
It seems you merely need to pop on a fetching frock and say you now identify as a woman.

Next thing you know  you are showering with a bunch of real women with a raging hard on. :D

Who are all bending over for the soap!  ;D

I really don't think prison would be all that bad, Tig...... ;D ;D
Depends on your choice of dress. I'll bet yours would be an off the shoulder number.  ;D ;D

Well, given the choice of being rogered (gang raped) in the shower by a group of hardened crims, or gently washing the back of a svelte female, I'd be willing to wear any dress to prove I identify as a woman.

Trouble is that I'd bet that the svelte cutie that you are eyeing up in the shower would quickly get shoved aside by a hard as nails butch type with legs and arms like tree trunks, who would demand to be serviced or she'd rip your dick off!  :o  :P 

You'd soon go into those showers a broken 'man' ;D
Are you and Opti having your own personal fantasy here?

Or just exposing the common feelings of inadequacy of men that many of you seem to have, especially when considering men that look like women, or due to an accident of nature were born with the wrong bodies vs brain?

You all worry about strange things at times, but no real man like I know (most ;D ;D) of you are should have nightmares about trans people. They live their lives you live yours.  As a women I have no worries about individuals that have gender issues.  It is men I worry about, who are naturally sexual predators and treat women as third class citizens! ::) ::)  Most of your sex are lovely........but..... ;D ;)
How very dare you??? Third class citizens indeed. Second class, maybe.  ;D
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 28 January 2021, 20:27:17
It seems you merely need to pop on a fetching frock and say you now identify as a woman.

Next thing you know  you are showering with a bunch of real women with a raging hard on. :D

Who are all bending over for the soap!  ;D

I really don't think prison would be all that bad, Tig...... ;D ;D
Depends on your choice of dress. I'll bet yours would be an off the shoulder number.  ;D ;D

Well, given the choice of being rogered (gang raped) in the shower by a group of hardened crims, or gently washing the back of a svelte female, I'd be willing to wear any dress to prove I identify as a woman.

Trouble is that I'd bet that the svelte cutie that you are eyeing up in the shower would quickly get shoved aside by a hard as nails butch type with legs and arms like tree trunks, who would demand to be serviced or she'd rip your dick off!  :o  :P 

You'd soon go into those showers a broken 'man' ;D
Are you and Opti having your own personal fantasy here?

Or just exposing the common feelings of inadequacy of men that many of you seem to have, especially when considering men that look like women, or due to an accident of nature were born with the wrong bodies vs brain?

You all worry about strange things at times, but no real man like I know (most ;D ;D) of you are should have nightmares about trans people. They live their lives you live yours.  As a women I have no worries about individuals that have gender issues.  It is men I worry about, who are naturally sexual predators and treat women as third class citizens! ::) ::)  Most of your sex are lovely........but..... ;D ;)
How very dare you??? Third class citizens indeed. Second class, maybe.  ;D

 ;D ;D ;D :-* :-*
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: Raeturbo on 28 January 2021, 20:43:05
A lot of prisoners used to suffer from mental health issues so they claimed ,personally I never believed the whining bastards.

Excellent, pity you retired👍 Not many proper folk left.
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: Raeturbo on 28 January 2021, 20:44:55
It looks like it has been going on since 2016.

It appears some women (real one's) have been raped by trans women (chicks with dicks)

Still, we need to look after the minorities. :-\ and the trans women would prefer not to go to a male prison where they would get the shit kicked out of them.

My view is that if you have a cock and balls you go to a male prison and if you have a fanny and tits you should go to a female prison. :)

But perhaps I'm being too gender specific.... :D
.  Oi! They are my words
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: Raeturbo on 28 January 2021, 20:46:13
A lot of prisoners used to suffer from mental health issues so they claimed ,personally I never believed the whining bastards.

I know some women prisoners are worried about 'trans women' ( essentially men with tackle still intact ) entering into the women's prison system because they identify as women. Is this a good idea, Mr Rangie?

What is your view?
Why would they be worried, surely you must think they'd be gagging for it?

Yes and as a bonus they might get a nice pair of silicone titties with their penis!  ;D
. But one get two free?
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: Raeturbo on 28 January 2021, 20:48:40
I can tell you a story one night I was " guesting" on a different wing & it was feeding time I was letting the cons out to collect their meals when the Senior Officer pulled me up because I let one out wearing flip flops ( health & safety issues) but in front of him was the he/she all dolled up in heels & a dress etc, so I answered  no flip flops but it's okay to look like the sugar plum fairy ! He wasn't amused but my reputation had preceded me so he knew what to expect, the world has gone totally mad..😁
                 F@ck!!
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 29 January 2021, 13:20:39
Genuine mental health problems are often horrific for the sufferers and for their loved ones. Believe me, I know.
The problem now is that like many other things, it is being demeaned by the current fad of, if everything in life isnt perfect and ideal, then you must have mental health issues.
If you cant always get what you want, if your a bit bored or fed up, you have mental health issues.
Its fickin disfraceful.  >:(
I suspect that had it been a thin back in the 70s, all of us would have been diagnosed with something more PC than me being a simpleton.  After all, nobody here has all their dogs on one lead, do they?

But because we couldn't be labelled with anything other than a simpleton or a spaz, which we had to accept rather than get all upset over, we all came out mostly OK.

Thats the difference.

All explained hilariously here.  :y ;D ;D.............bad language included.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GyUmJBqNus

We need more intellectuals on TV. People like Jade Goody and Joey Jaywick.

I doubt Ms Goody will be seen on TV again. ::) ::)
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 29 January 2021, 13:33:48
https://youtu.be/6t8no-McE64 (https://youtu.be/6t8no-McE64)

For Lizzie......

Personally, I think 'self identification' should be disregarded.

If the individual has a cock then HE should be in with the 'Big Winston's' of this world. :)

The words  "HER penis was erect and sticking out the top of HER trouser" says it all really. ;)
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 29 January 2021, 13:59:40
I think a man in a dress and a wig is taking the piss, if all he needs is 'self identification' to become a woman.

A genuine trans (born in the wrong body) would want to be shot of his penis, or have it hollowed out and turned into a 'make do and mend' vagina. ::) A real trans woman would not want to keep 'male bits'

Not sure what could be done about his balls......perhaps they could be given to his dog as a culinary treat. ;D

Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 29 January 2021, 14:31:27
https://youtu.be/LRcUzEQHYfk (https://youtu.be/LRcUzEQHYfk)

As Mr Bitz is a fan..... ;D ;D
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 29 January 2021, 14:47:23
Funniest comedian ever.  :y ;D
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 29 January 2021, 14:59:24
Can't stand Michael McIntyre.

Only funny to children under 6 and old farts over 85.
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: Raeturbo on 29 January 2021, 15:54:07
Women should be allowed to have cocks of their own, only ‘borrow’ a mans. :y
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: dave the builder on 29 January 2021, 16:07:30
Women shouldn't be allowed to have cocks of their own, unless It's made of rubber or plastic
FTFY
next you'll be letting em vote Rae  :o
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: Raeturbo on 29 January 2021, 16:12:05
Fu(£. !!  Thanks Dai👍
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 29 January 2021, 17:00:25
Women shouldn't be allowed to have cocks of their own, unless It's made of rubber or plastic
FTFY
next you'll be letting em vote Rae  :o

The thin end of the wedge. :-X
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: Raeturbo on 29 January 2021, 17:19:41
No fear....... and as to letting them drive  :o :o. Oh wait..... :'(   (joke Lizz)👍👍
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: dave the builder on 29 January 2021, 17:23:56
Don't worry Rae ,Lizzie won't pop over and batter you  ;)
she'd put too many miles on her Omega  :D
plus the fuel bill ,even though she does drive like a girl  ;D  :-X  :o
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: Raeturbo on 29 January 2021, 17:26:45
 :)
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 29 January 2021, 17:55:48
I think a man in a dress and a wig is taking the piss, if all he needs is 'self identification' to become a woman.

A genuine trans (born in the wrong body) would want to be shot of his penis, or have it hollowed out and turned into a 'make do and mend' vagina. ::) A real trans woman would not want to keep 'male bits'

Not sure what could be done about his balls......perhaps they could be given to his dog as a culinary treat. ;D

And that is what happens unless for medical reasons the sex reassignment op cannot be performed.  But in all cases that are under medical supervision, female hormones are prescribed which shrink the male organs. ;)

The male version of this op is far more complicated and expensive.
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: STEMO on 29 January 2021, 18:22:48
I think a man in a dress and a wig is taking the piss, if all he needs is 'self identification' to become a woman.

A genuine trans (born in the wrong body) would want to be shot of his penis, or have it hollowed out and turned into a 'make do and mend' vagina. ::) A real trans woman would not want to keep 'male bits'

Not sure what could be done about his balls......perhaps they could be given to his dog as a culinary treat. ;D

And that is what happens unless for medical reasons the sex reassignment op cannot be performed.  But in all cases that are under medical supervision, female hormones are prescribed which shrink the male organs. ;)

The male version of this op is far more complicated and expensive.
I must have accidentally swallowed some of them when I was about 60  ;D
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 29 January 2021, 18:23:53
I think a man in a dress and a wig is taking the piss, if all he needs is 'self identification' to become a woman.

A genuine trans (born in the wrong body) would want to be shot of his penis, or have it hollowed out and turned into a 'make do and mend' vagina. ::) A real trans woman would not want to keep 'male bits'

Not sure what could be done about his balls......perhaps they could be given to his dog as a culinary treat. ;D



And that is what happens unless for medical reasons the sex reassignment op cannot be performed.  But in all cases that are under medical supervision, female hormones are prescribed which shrink the male organs. ;)

The male version of this op is far more complicated and expensive.
I must have accidentally swallowed some of them when I was about 60 ;D

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 29 January 2021, 18:26:06
Women should be allowed to have cocks of their own, only ‘borrow’ a mans. :y

Do not worry, us women can obtain sperm in many ways now ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D :-* ;)
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 29 January 2021, 18:27:41
I think a man in a dress and a wig is taking the piss, if all he needs is 'self identification' to become a woman.

A genuine trans (born in the wrong body) would want to be shot of his penis, or have it hollowed out and turned into a 'make do and mend' vagina. ::) A real trans woman would not want to keep 'male bits'

Not sure what could be done about his balls......perhaps they could be given to his dog as a culinary treat. ;D

And that is what happens unless for medical reasons the sex reassignment op cannot be performed.  But in all cases that are under medical supervision, female hormones are prescribed which shrink the male organs. ;)

The male version of this op is far more complicated and expensive.
I must have accidentally swallowed some of them when I was about 60  ;D

Details of your your micro-penis should be filed away under TMI...... :-X ;) 
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 29 January 2021, 18:32:30
I think a man in a dress and a wig is taking the piss, if all he needs is 'self identification' to become a woman.

A genuine trans (born in the wrong body) would want to be shot of his penis, or have it hollowed out and turned into a 'make do and mend' vagina. ::) A real trans woman would not want to keep 'male bits'

Not sure what could be done about his balls......perhaps they could be given to his dog as a culinary treat. ;D

And that is what happens unless for medical reasons the sex reassignment op cannot be performed.  But in all cases that are under medical supervision, female hormones are prescribed which shrink the male organs. ;)

The male version of this op is far more complicated and expensive.

The rapist 'trans' I mentioned earlier still had his tackle after 4 years of self-identification. Playing the system perhaps. ::)
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: Raeturbo on 29 January 2021, 18:39:49
Women should be allowed to have cocks of their own, only ‘borrow’ a mans. :y

Do not worry, us women can obtain sperm in many ways now ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D :-* ;)
.   
                  Aye, we men are only too eager to donate Our sperm.............one way or another ;D :D :y
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: dave the builder on 29 January 2021, 18:40:15
I think a man in a dress and a wig is taking the piss, if all he needs is 'self identification' to become a woman.

A genuine trans (born in the wrong body) would want to be shot of his penis, or have it hollowed out and turned into a 'make do and mend' vagina. ::) A real trans woman would not want to keep 'male bits'

Not sure what could be done about his balls......perhaps they could be given to his dog as a culinary treat. ;D

And that is what happens unless for medical reasons the sex reassignment op cannot be performed.  But in all cases that are under medical supervision, female hormones are prescribed which shrink the male organs. ;)

The male version of this op is far more complicated and expensive.

The rapist 'trans' I mentioned earlier still had his tackle after 4 years of self-identification. Playing the system perhaps. ::)

It takes some balls to do that in prison

if they transfer him to the right prison/wing , she would get a free Penis removal   ;)
Title: Re: Mental health issues
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 29 January 2021, 18:43:36
I think a man in a dress and a wig is taking the piss, if all he needs is 'self identification' to become a woman.

A genuine trans (born in the wrong body) would want to be shot of his penis, or have it hollowed out and turned into a 'make do and mend' vagina. ::) A real trans woman would not want to keep 'male bits'

Not sure what could be done about his balls......perhaps they could be given to his dog as a culinary treat. ;D

And that is what happens unless for medical reasons the sex reassignment op cannot be performed.  But in all cases that are under medical supervision, female hormones are prescribed which shrink the male organs. ;)

The male version of this op is far more complicated and expensive.

The rapist 'trans' I mentioned earlier still had his tackle after 4 years of self-identification. Playing the system perhaps. ::)

It takes some balls to do that in prison

if they transfer him to the right prison/wing , she would get a free Penis removal   ;)

After his erect penis called a stir amongst the 'the ladies of cell bock H' he was sent to a male prison.......which is where he should have been sent in the first place. ;) ::)