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Title: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: Drewomega on 19 May 2021, 23:02:59
I have been watching commercial tv for the last few nights. Very unusual for me as I never watch the damn thing or any other channels.
I have been working and been to most countries on this planet earth and any tv programmes in any country reflect the colour of the people of the country I am in .i.e. China have chinese newsreaders etc, and african countries have black newsreaders etc. Same with middle eastern countries.
Why, why have we got so many black actors in the adverts on itv and newsreaders etc on the BBC?
Not much reflection on the colour of this country. I cannot see this boding well in the long term.

Just noticed on tv that the new series 'Anne Boleyn' is to be played by a black actress! What is going on?

NOTE. if anybody has a dig at me about being 'racist' as I am not. Someone on here did before though.
So much for free speech!! :( :( 
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: Rangie on 19 May 2021, 23:28:38
Unfortunately a lot of this has happened since that poor unfortunate thieving drug taking bastard Mr Floyd ( famous for not being able to breathe) resisted arrest & subsequently died Somehow showing all these black folk doing various everyday things is supposed to make people realise how great they really are . Like you I don't think this will end well, hope Mr Floyd is rotting in hell .
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: STEMO on 20 May 2021, 07:09:56
Whites are accused of cultural appropriation for wearing dreadlocks, but a black Anne Boleyn is ok, apparently.  ::)
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: STEMO on 20 May 2021, 07:12:32
And, in answer to your 'Why?', Drew, it's called brainwashing.
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 20 May 2021, 07:39:57
Just imagine 007

Bond is Black Back
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: Raeturbo on 20 May 2021, 08:28:31
It’s f👣clking ridiculous, youngsters who may watch this show to learn about good old Henry VIII will think he married a black women and was the first to do so, But wasn’t it that ginger Tw🏴‍☠️T, poor  hard done by put upon dear Harry? It’s getting worse🙁🙁
 Just to add to ensure there’s no confusion,  I’m not a racist, thought I’d better say that as it’s hard to mention anything on this subject without getting that label these days👀
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: Rangie on 20 May 2021, 08:54:56
It’s f👣clking ridiculous, youngsters who may watch this show to learn about good old Henry VIII will think he married a black women and was the first to do so, But wasn’t it that ginger Tw🏴‍☠️T, poor  hard done by put upon dear Harry? It’s getting worse🙁🙁
 Just to add to ensure there’s no confusion,  I’m not a racist, thought I’d better say that as it’s hard to mention anything on this subject without getting that label these days👀
.

Racism doesn't even come into it,  personally I just feel that a return to normality is all most folk want , yes there are mixed race marriages all well & good, but take for example TV ads it seems that every family is mixed race which is absolute shite.
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: deviator on 20 May 2021, 09:28:20
What I don't get is, there are complaints if a white actor plays a black roll or an able bodied actor plays a disabled part. Ok, going further with that, what if your TV show includes a murderer, can that roll only be played by a convicted murderer? Or a rape etc;
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: addy on 20 May 2021, 09:37:34
I thought exactly the same about the new Anne Boleyn series. It has gone crazy on TV, don't watch it much now. Have a few programs that I like to watch, but not even bothered if I miss them.  I was also brought up in a family, that is a mixture of different cultures, Scots, Irish, Welsh, French and even South African. So never knew racism existed, even to this day I still look at a person, for how they behave not their colour or beliefs.

But the minority cultures, are turning even non racist people against them. The patience of the country is wearing thin, it will soon boil over and nothing will stop it.
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: dave the builder on 20 May 2021, 10:40:40
Maybe it's to do with "Global Warming"  ???
a "darker face" on the telly box uses less electricary because the screen don't have to shine so bright  :-\
I'm doing my "bit" for global warming , I have several electric panel heaters AKA plasma TV screens and drive a V6  :)
still not very warm today  :(
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: STEMO on 20 May 2021, 11:04:30
Positive discrimination has never worked, it just puts a lot of incompetent people in high powered jobs. It happens quite a bit in education, people promoted to jobs they are simply not capable of doing.
It's part of the reason I cancelled my tv football subscriptions, you'd think the only people qualified to comment on football are black or female or both. Have you ever tried to listen to a female screeching her way through a commentary?
Football focus, bbc 1, Saturday lunchtime, is now fronted by Alex Jones, a black female. It's overkill, and people will soon overcome their fear of being called racist, homophobic, misogynist, etc..........I hope.
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: STEMO on 20 May 2021, 11:53:45
There are times, though, that I understand the fear and anger that some black people hold deep within. Have a look at BBC1, nine o'clock tonight.
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: Shackeng on 20 May 2021, 11:58:12
According to the 2011 Census, the total population of England and Wales was 56.1 million, and 86.0% of the population was White.
People from Asian ethnic groups made up the second largest percentage of the population (at 7.5%), followed by Black ethnic groups (at 3.3%), Mixed/Multiple ethnic groups (at 2.2%) and Other ethnic groups (at 1.0%) ,among the specific ethnic groups, people from the White British ethnic group made up the largest percentage of the population (at 80.5%), followed by Other White (4.4%) and Indian (2.5%).
From 2001 to 2011, the percentage of the population of England and Wales that was White British decreased from 87.4% to 80.5%, while the Other White group saw the largest increase in their share of the population, from 2.6% to 4.4%
The percentage of the population from a Black African background doubled from 0.9% in 2001 to 1.8% in 2011
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 20 May 2021, 12:07:44
I have got to agree that the obvious effort by producers of television fodder are now trying far too hard to show "equality" and so feature people of colour at every opportunity.  They are actually distorting the truth and that is wrong. They should be reflecting exactly what is the society of our country, not creating an inaccurate picture.  That is doing the minority sections of our country no good at all, and is as bad as the days of showing very little minority representation.

As for a black Anne Boleyn, that is just historically incorrect and therefore completely devalues the credibility of the production in total. ::) ::) ::) :( :(
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 20 May 2021, 13:30:01
Whites are accused of cultural appropriation for wearing dreadlocks, but a black Anne Boleyn is ok, apparently.  ::)

 Don't worry chaps. Swings and roundabouts. :)

I look forward to seeing a 'white Ali' .......white 'Nelson Mandela' and a white ' Malcolm X' in the near future. ::) ::)

.......except I won't live to see it. It's a one-way (woke) street. :-\

 
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 20 May 2021, 13:37:01
Whites are accused of cultural appropriation for wearing dreadlocks, but a black Anne Boleyn is ok, apparently.  ::)

It's only a matter of time before before some woke (but extremely ignorant) SJW posts that Henry only cut off her head because he was a racist who hated black people. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: ronnyd on 20 May 2021, 18:36:09
Positive discrimination has never worked, it just puts a lot of incompetent people in high powered jobs. It happens quite a bit in education, people promoted to jobs they are simply not capable of doing.
It's part of the reason I cancelled my tv football subscriptions, you'd think the only people qualified to comment on football are black or female or both. Have you ever tried to listen to a female screeching her way through a commentary?
Football focus, bbc 1, Saturday lunchtime, is now fronted by Alex Jones, a black female. It's overkill, and people will soon overcome their fear of being called racist, homophobic, misogynist, etc..........I hope.
Unfortunately yes. >:(
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: STEMO on 20 May 2021, 18:54:00
Positive discrimination has never worked, it just puts a lot of incompetent people in high powered jobs. It happens quite a bit in education, people promoted to jobs they are simply not capable of doing.
It's part of the reason I cancelled my tv football subscriptions, you'd think the only people qualified to comment on football are black or female or both. Have you ever tried to listen to a female screeching her way through a commentary?
Football focus, bbc 1, Saturday lunchtime, is now fronted by Alex Jones, a black female. It's overkill, and people will soon overcome their fear of being called racist, homophobic, misogynist, etc..........I hope.
Unfortunately yes. >:(
It's actually better with the sound off  ;D
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: Raeturbo on 20 May 2021, 18:58:47
And the picture 👀
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: STEMO on 20 May 2021, 19:06:01
And the picture 👀
In some Welsh football games I've watched they've managed to squash the ball till it's all misshapen, and they handle it all the time. Stupid Taffy bastids  ;D
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: Raeturbo on 20 May 2021, 19:22:35
You wouldn’t understand, (it’s a mans game) :y
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: BazaJT on 20 May 2021, 19:32:54
And it's a far better game than football ever could be.
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: Drewomega on 20 May 2021, 19:56:28
And, in answer to your 'Why?', Drew, it's called brainwashing.

STEMO you are right mate. :y

Unfortunately 'people' believe all this crap and it is a bit worrying!

As most OOF'ers know on this great site that I live here in Scotland and Mallorca. Krankie wants more of the wee devils up here! :o (as you have probably guessed I am not a NK fan)

I know what 'racism' is in foreign parts directed at me! believe me it is nowhere near the racism that has been in the media reported here against asians and blacks. Nowhere near.  >:(

Rant over  :-X :-X

Time for a beer! :y :y

 
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: STEMO on 20 May 2021, 19:56:34
And it's a far better game than football ever could be.
Yes, that's why it rakes in so much money  ;D
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: Drewomega on 20 May 2021, 20:03:43
Football? girlie game.  :-* :-*
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 20 May 2021, 21:14:03
Unfortunately a lot of this has happened since that poor unfortunate thieving drug taking bastard Mr Floyd ( famous for not being able to breathe) resisted arrest & subsequently died Somehow showing all these black folk doing various everyday things is supposed to make people realise how great they really are . Like you I don't think this will end well, hope Mr Floyd is rotting in hell .

I'd imagine that St Peter was expecting someone like Jimmy Carter after looking down and watching five or six 'state' funerals but got quite shock when Mr Floyd popped up at the Pearly Gates!  :o

Hopefully he kicked his arse down the stairs sharpish!  ::)
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 20 May 2021, 21:15:18
Whites are accused of cultural appropriation for wearing dreadlocks, but a black Anne Boleyn is ok, apparently.  ::)

 Don't worry chaps. Swings and roundabouts. :)

I look forward to seeing a 'white Ali' .......white 'Nelson Mandela' and a white ' Malcolm X' in the near future. ::) ::)

.......except I won't live to see it. It's a one-way (woke) street. :-\

I'm sure no-one could possibly have a problem with a white woman playing Rosa Parks?  :)
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: deviator on 20 May 2021, 21:33:16
Whites are accused of cultural appropriation for wearing dreadlocks, but a black Anne Boleyn is ok, apparently.  ::)

 Don't worry chaps. Swings and roundabouts. :)

I look forward to seeing a 'white Ali' .......white 'Nelson Mandela' and a white ' Malcolm X' in the near future. ::) ::)

.......except I won't live to see it. It's a one-way (woke) street. :-\

 

I partially disagree here. To me, it doesn't matter if they cast a black person to play Anne Boleyn, the colour of the actor doesn't affect the story being told as race is not part of that story.

Now if you cast a white person to MLK, that would be wrong, because his story is all about race and repression. The only way you could tell this story with a white MLK, would be to swap the roles of the black and white people, but then the story wouldn't be the same and the point is overshadowed by casting choice.

Just my opinion.
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: STEMO on 20 May 2021, 21:35:01
Whites are accused of cultural appropriation for wearing dreadlocks, but a black Anne Boleyn is ok, apparently.  ::)

 Don't worry chaps. Swings and roundabouts. :)

I look forward to seeing a 'white Ali' .......white 'Nelson Mandela' and a white ' Malcolm X' in the near future. ::) ::)

.......except I won't live to see it. It's a one-way (woke) street. :-\

 

Don't worry chaps. Swings and roundabouts. :)

I look forward to seeing a 'white Ali' .......white 'Nelson Mandela' and a white ' Malcolm X' in the near future. ::) ::)

.......except I won't live to see it. It's a one-way (woke) street. :-\

I partially disagree here. To me, it doesn't matter if they cast a black person to play Anne Boleyn, the colour of the actor doesn't affect the story being told as race is not part of that story.

Now if you cast a white person to MLK, that would be wrong, because his story is all about race and repression. The only way you could tell this story with a white MLK, would be to swap the roles of the black and white people, but then the story wouldn't be the same and the point is overshadowed by casting choice.

Just my opinion.
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It's not a 'story' though, is it? It's history. Let's make Hitler a chink, shouldn't affect the story  ;D
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: deviator on 20 May 2021, 21:39:45
But then we are back to actors only allowed to play the roles if they are like the person they portraying.

As an example, the madness of king George. By your reasoning, this could only be played by an actor who is barking mad. What next Wolverine needs to be actual wolf machine hybrid actor?
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: STEMO on 20 May 2021, 21:58:45
But then we are back to actors only allowed to play the roles if they are like the person they portraying.

As an example, the madness of king George. By your reasoning, this could only be played by an actor who is barking mad. What next Wolverine needs to be actual wolf machine hybrid actor?
Nonsense. It's historically inaccurate for a black person to play Anne Boleyn, as it would be for a Chinese person to play Hitler. For a watching youngster, it would give a completely inaccurate portrayal.
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: deviator on 20 May 2021, 22:19:02
Actors are called actors because they are capable of acting like other people.

You are also confusing history with a story. Do you think the history we know is how it happened? No, not for a second, history is only written by the winners and then it will be bias towards them. Is it a history programme? Is it a documentary? Or is it someone's interpretation of events?

To me, it doesn't affect the story unless you are getting hung up on the fact it's a black actoress and ignoring the story. Which if true, says more about you than it does the story or cast.
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: STEMO on 20 May 2021, 22:25:40
Actors are called actors because they are capable of acting like other people.

You are also confusing history with a story. Do you think the history we know is how it happened? No, not for a second, history is only written by the winners and then it will be bias towards them. Is it a history programme? Is it a documentary? Or is it someone's interpretation of events?

To me, it doesn't affect the story unless you are getting hung up on the fact it's a black actoress and ignoring the story. Which if true, says more about you than it does the story or cast.
WTF are you on about?  ;D How are Anne Boleyn or Henry 8th 'winners'.
So...history is bunkum, that's not how it happened at all. Lizzie.........you'd better throw all of your books away  ;D Jeez.
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: STEMO on 20 May 2021, 22:27:50
And I'm not getting 'hung up' on the fact that it's a black actress, just the fact that it's woke nonsense. Anne Boleyn wasn't black....you see?
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: deviator on 20 May 2021, 22:28:52
Let me put it another way, not many dead people tell their story.

I didn't think I'd need to get the crayons out.
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: STEMO on 20 May 2021, 22:30:22
Let me put it another way, not many dead people tell their story.

I didn't think I'd need to get the crayons out.
I think crayons are probably all you're allowed in there  ::)
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: STEMO on 20 May 2021, 22:30:47
I'm done.  ;D
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: deviator on 20 May 2021, 22:34:17
The thing is, the wokeness annoys me too.

A black lady playing a white lady doesn't. Now if said lady only got the job because of her skin colour, then I agree with you, it's wrong, but if she gave the best audition and won the part fairly, then she deserves it.

Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: Raeturbo on 21 May 2021, 00:17:08
Rubbish, Anne Boleyn was white, and as historical fact should be portrayed by a white actress. Anything other would be confusing to some people especially kids.
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 21 May 2021, 00:29:24
The thing is, the wokeness annoys me too.

A black lady playing a white lady doesn't. Now if said lady only got the job because of her skin colour, then I agree with you, it's wrong, but if she gave the best audition and won the part fairly, then she deserves it.
Surely if the portrayed character was, historically proven fact, white; then a non white actress could only have gotten the job because of her colour (aka 'positive discrimination') and the production company not wanting to be seen to be discriminating against anyone who didn't accurately represent the character being portrayed.

If it was down to talent, then why wasn't the part given to Idris Elba or Will Smith?
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 21 May 2021, 06:36:52
If a white actress was cast to play the lead role in a film about the life of a historical tribal queen in Africa, world war 3 would break out.
And therein lies the problem.
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: Shackeng on 21 May 2021, 07:49:27
Taking the Anne Boleyn case to its logical conclusion, and given current gender fluidity, such parts can now be played by any colour, or gender. I have enough difficulty when they produce Shakespeare in modern dress.  ???
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: Rangie on 21 May 2021, 08:37:43
How about a black Winston Churchill or a Black Enoch Powell how would that be accepted ? Why stop there a Black Queen Elizabeth even, the idiots that pursue this utter nonsense could go on & on the world has gone totally mad. The other thing that really gets me pissed off is the " Mental health issues" bandwagon that is being spouted everyday with more & more celebrities jumping in with their advice/experiences my old Sergeant would have blown his top ( man up you bunch of pricks) was his catchphrase..😂
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Post by: countrywoman on 21 May 2021, 09:10:17
When as anything thats been on TV or films been "accurate" , makes me think of the Pete and Dud audition sketch----
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: Olympia5776 on 21 May 2021, 10:16:29
Ahhhh...we're just old and the ( now ) previous owners of the world .
Everything changes and evolves and the values that we held high and adhered to have been cast aside and deemed wrong , inaccurate , unfair , racist , culturally offensive and divisive .
Social media has a great responsibility for this as it gives everyone a voice ,and when they gather in a rabid pack a LOUD voice, that has the ability to persuade ,or dissuade , governments , corporations and industries of policies to be employed.
I feel that the mantra now is "he who shouts loudest , gets ..."
We , and you know who I mean here , are being forced onto the back foot by a myriad of minorities who wish to have everything their way and will employ all persuasive tactics , ethical or otherwise  , to achieve their goal.
We'll be forced to see what they want us to see and not what is actually there , or has been .
Welcome to the brave new world my friends ....  ::)

PS , I really don't give a ufck anymore . As a well planned for and fully paid up member of yesterday I will just sit back , with a Gordons Sicilian lemon in hand , and smile at their folly.
Chill Bro.  ;D
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 21 May 2021, 10:17:27
Actors are called actors because they are capable of acting like other people.

You are also confusing history with a story. Do you think the history we know is how it happened? No, not for a second, history is only written by the winners and then it will be bias towards them. Is it a history programme? Is it a documentary? Or is it someone's interpretation of events?

To me, it doesn't affect the story unless you are getting hung up on the fact it's a black actoress and ignoring the story. Which if true, says more about you than it does the story or cast.
WTF are you on about?  ;D How are Anne Boleyn or Henry 8th 'winners'.
So...history is bunkum, that's not how it happened at all. Lizzie.........you'd better throw all of your books away  ;D Jeez.

 ;D ;D ;D  Indeed Steve.  History as we know it is all recorded in documents - personal, state, chronicler accounts and now in 'modern' times, the media - and then read, re-read, researched by numerous academics and published in 'papers', books, and now documentaries. Of course in the recording of history there can be bias, or simply recording errors, and that is what modern historians are constantly researching to establish the EXACT truth of what transpired.  But certain facts cannot be established now, such as the exact numbers in the English population in 1348, at the time of the Black Death, or who really did kill the 'Princes in the Tower' in about 1483, etc, etc.

But certain FACTS are well established - Anne Boleyn WAS a white English women with six fingers on her right hand; Hitler WAS a white Austrian; Winston Churchill WAS a white Englishman with an American mother;  the Duke of Wellington WAS a white English man; Nelson WAS a white Englishman, Nelson Mandela WAS a black African, and Jesus WAS certainly NOT a white man from Bethlehem, etc, etc, these are all FACTS that an actor, no matter how good they are or of any particular artistic persuasion, CANNOT change.

So to suggest a black actor can play the part of Anne Boleyn is just plain nonsense. ::) ::) ;)
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: deviator on 21 May 2021, 10:27:25
As I said above, to me, it doesn't change or affect the story being told, so it doesn't bother me.
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: Olympia5776 on 21 May 2021, 10:29:02
" My name is Bond ...Leroy Bond " ......................Naw  ;D
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: Nick W on 21 May 2021, 10:38:04
As I said above, to me, it doesn't change or affect the story being told, so it doesn't bother me.


Exactly. An actor's job is to pretend to be something they're not. Otherwise you'd have to find a genuine one armed, black haired, almond eyed, Australian-accented, midget lesbian to portray the leading character in your new musical opps my way to the top - My life as a cyber terrorist
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: STEMO on 21 May 2021, 11:01:50
Ahhhh...we're just old and the ( now ) previous owners of the world .
Everything changes and evolves and the values that we held high and adhered to have been cast aside and deemed wrong , inaccurate , unfair , racist , culturally offensive and divisive .
Social media has a great responsibility for this as it gives everyone a voice ,and when they gather in a rabid pack a LOUD voice, that has the ability to persuade ,or dissuade , governments , corporations and industries of policies to be employed.
I feel that the mantra now is "he who shouts loudest , gets ..."
We , and you know who I mean here , are being forced onto the back foot by a myriad of minorities who wish to have everything their way and will employ all persuasive tactics , ethical or otherwise  , to achieve their goal.
We'll be forced to see what they want us to see and not what is actually there , or has been .
Welcome to the brave new world my friends ....  ::)

PS , I really don't give a ufck anymore . As a well planned for and fully paid up member of yesterday I will just sit back , with a Gordons Sicilian lemon in hand , and smile at their folly.
Chill Bro.  ;D
It's hard to sit back and listen to the idiots though, Don.
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: Olympia5776 on 21 May 2021, 11:30:24
Ahhhh...we're just old and the ( now ) previous owners of the world .
Everything changes and evolves and the values that we held high and adhered to have been cast aside and deemed wrong , inaccurate , unfair , racist , culturally offensive and divisive .
Social media has a great responsibility for this as it gives everyone a voice ,and when they gather in a rabid pack a LOUD voice, that has the ability to persuade ,or dissuade , governments , corporations and industries of policies to be employed.
I feel that the mantra now is "he who shouts loudest , gets ..."
We , and you know who I mean here , are being forced onto the back foot by a myriad of minorities who wish to have everything their way and will employ all persuasive tactics , ethical or otherwise  , to achieve their goal.
We'll be forced to see what they want us to see and not what is actually there , or has been .
Welcome to the brave new world my friends ....  ::)

PS , I really don't give a ufck anymore . As a well planned for and fully paid up member of yesterday I will just sit back , with a Gordons Sicilian lemon in hand , and smile at their folly.
Chill Bro.  ;D
It's hard to sit back and listen to the idiots though, Don.

I know Steve . For nigh on 10 years now and on various platforms , I've watched and listened to these idiots who want it all their way , like children in a tantrum.
LGBQRTESNKTDS ( + any unfortunate I've missed ) , bame, SNP'rs , remoaners , no cartoons of allah or we kill you , best crockpot meals  ::) etc. ad nausium ....They all want it their way .
You'll just have to roll with it now 'cause the toothpaste is out of the tube so to speak .
If you were closer I'd take you for a beer and bestow my new found " peace man " disposition upon you .  ;D
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: Shackeng on 21 May 2021, 11:40:16
Fortunately not a lot of ‘em on here, so I come in for peace and quiet.  ::)
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: Raeturbo on 21 May 2021, 12:15:34
Yes Shack thankfully somewhere with some sanity👀😂 Don’t know you Don but I feel the same and a beer with you sounds bloody great👍 Black Anne Boleyn! Anyone thinking this is a good idea must be smoking some good shit🪴🥓🌚💩
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: Raeturbo on 21 May 2021, 12:25:46
How about a black Winston Churchill or a Black Enoch Powell how would that be accepted ? Why stop there a Black Queen Elizabeth even, the idiots that pursue this utter nonsense could go on & on the world has gone totally mad. The other thing that really gets me pissed off is the " Mental health issues" bandwagon that is being spouted everyday with more & more celebrities jumping in with their advice/experiences my old Sergeant would have blown his top ( man up you bunch of pricks) was his catchphrase..😂
               I agree, if something/someone is going wrong it’s claim a mental issue nowerdays, though I’m sympathetic with genuine cases it seems to be getting blown out of all proportion. While we’re at it I saw some women on the box moaning about how hard rugby tackles can effect women differently than men, well Don’t play the f@(hing game if you’re going to moan/claim compensation, (men too) FFS.🪓
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: STEMO on 21 May 2021, 12:33:56
Ahhhh...we're just old and the ( now ) previous owners of the world .
Everything changes and evolves and the values that we held high and adhered to have been cast aside and deemed wrong , inaccurate , unfair , racist , culturally offensive and divisive .
Social media has a great responsibility for this as it gives everyone a voice ,and when they gather in a rabid pack a LOUD voice, that has the ability to persuade ,or dissuade , governments , corporations and industries of policies to be employed.
I feel that the mantra now is "he who shouts loudest , gets ..."
We , and you know who I mean here , are being forced onto the back foot by a myriad of minorities who wish to have everything their way and will employ all persuasive tactics , ethical or otherwise  , to achieve their goal.
We'll be forced to see what they want us to see and not what is actually there , or has been .
Welcome to the brave new world my friends ....  ::)

PS , I really don't give a ufck anymore . As a well planned for and fully paid up member of yesterday I will just sit back , with a Gordons Sicilian lemon in hand , and smile at their folly.
Chill Bro.  ;D
It's hard to sit back and listen to the idiots though, Don.

I know Steve . For nigh on 10 years now and on various platforms , I've watched and listened to these idiots who want it all their way , like children in a tantrum.
LGBQRTESNKTDS ( + any unfortunate I've missed ) , bame, SNP'rs , remoaners , no cartoons of allah or we kill you , best crockpot meals  ::) etc. ad nausium ....They all want it their way .
You'll just have to roll with it now 'cause the toothpaste is out of the tube so to speak .
If you were closer I'd take you for a beer and bestow my new found " peace man " disposition upon you .  ;D
Having read some of your previous posts, I'm thinking your new disposition might be a very thin veneer, liable to crack open and release the dogs of hell at any time  ;D

Edited for accuracy  ;D
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 21 May 2021, 12:36:21
Taking the Anne Boleyn case to its logical conclusion, and given current gender fluidity, such parts can now be played by any colour, or gender. I have enough difficulty when they produce Shakespeare in modern dress.  ???
Baz Lurhman's Romeo and Juliet was pretty true to the original text and mannerisms even though it was set on the US West Coast.
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: STEMO on 21 May 2021, 12:46:59
Ahhhh...we're just old and the ( now ) previous owners of the world .
Everything changes and evolves and the values that we held high and adhered to have been cast aside and deemed wrong , inaccurate , unfair , racist , culturally offensive and divisive .
Social media has a great responsibility for this as it gives everyone a voice ,and when they gather in a rabid pack a LOUD voice, that has the ability to persuade ,or dissuade , governments , corporations and industries of policies to be employed.
I feel that the mantra now is "he who shouts loudest , gets ..."
We , and you know who I mean here , are being forced onto the back foot by a myriad of minorities who wish to have everything their way and will employ all persuasive tactics , ethical or otherwise  , to achieve their goal.
We'll be forced to see what they want us to see and not what is actually there , or has been .
Welcome to the brave new world my friends ....  ::)

PS , I really don't give a ufck anymore . As a well planned for and fully paid up member of yesterday I will just sit back , with a Gordons Sicilian lemon in hand , and smile at their folly.
Chill Bro.  ;D
Speaking of your new found laid backness, careful with that Gordon's Sicilian lemon.
One....nothing much to see hear
Two.....ahhh...getting a bit mellow now
Three....positively glowing, and a bit giggly
Four......going a bit quiet and thoughtful now
Five.......muttering under the breath and staring people out
Six......who wants a fluckin fight?


 ;D
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: Raeturbo on 21 May 2021, 12:52:41
Like I said a site/forum with a bit of sanity Steve🤣🤣
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 21 May 2021, 13:29:09
As I said above, to me, it doesn't change or affect the story being told, so it doesn't bother me.


Exactly. An actor's job is to pretend to be something they're not. Otherwise you'd have to find a genuine one armed, black haired, almond eyed, Australian-accented, midget lesbian to portray the leading character in your new musical opps my way to the top - My life as a cyber terrorist

If the production is clearly designed as a parody of the 'real thing' then this approach is fine. For example, Anne Boleyn could be a black woman in an episode of Red Dwarf set in a far away universe  1,000,000 years in the future.

The Channel 5 production is set in the correct period of history, with the correct players of that time. The clothes they wear are consistent with the time period. Therefore Anne Boleyn should be a white woman in order to make the production as true to life as possible.

This is simply woke 'box ticking'



 

Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: Raeturbo on 21 May 2021, 13:46:28
And white baiting
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: Nick W on 21 May 2021, 13:53:26

This is simply woke 'box ticking'


This is simply grumpy, irrelevant old gits whinging about a changing world leaving them behind
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: Olympia5776 on 21 May 2021, 14:36:57

This is simply woke 'box ticking'


This is simply grumpy, irrelevant old gits whinging about a changing world leaving them behind

I'll drink to that ...hic.
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: Raeturbo on 21 May 2021, 14:38:23

This is simply woke 'box ticking'


This is simply grumpy, irrelevant old gits whinging about a changing world leaving them behind
              Aye we are correct of course but sadly I think you’re right😢🙁
Title: Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
Post by: Olympia5776 on 21 May 2021, 14:47:31
Ahhhh...we're just old and the ( now ) previous owners of the world .
Everything changes and evolves and the values that we held high and adhered to have been cast aside and deemed wrong , inaccurate , unfair , racist , culturally offensive and divisive .
Social media has a great responsibility for this as it gives everyone a voice ,and when they gather in a rabid pack a LOUD voice, that has the ability to persuade ,or dissuade , governments , corporations and industries of policies to be employed.
I feel that the mantra now is "he who shouts loudest , gets ..."
We , and you know who I mean here , are being forced onto the back foot by a myriad of minorities who wish to have everything their way and will employ all persuasive tactics , ethical or otherwise  , to achieve their goal.
We'll be forced to see what they want us to see and not what is actually there , or has been .
Welcome to the brave new world my friends ....  ::)

PS , I really don't give a ufck anymore . As a well planned for and fully paid up member of yesterday I will just sit back , with a Gordons Sicilian lemon in hand , and smile at their folly.
Chill Bro.  ;D
Speaking of your new found laid backness, careful with that Gordon's Sicilian lemon.
One....nothing much to see hear
Two.....ahhh...getting a bit mellow now
Three....positively glowing, and a bit giggly
Four......going a bit quiet and thoughtful now
Five.......muttering under the breath and staring people out
Six......who wants a fluckin fight?


 ;D

I reserve the right to keep this one for that Steve , and it only takes three steps not six .  ;D

(https://i.ibb.co/hDQQbRP/20210521-143352-2.jpg)