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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Varche on 31 May 2021, 07:57:37
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Just been reading about the charges for this. £8 for car and £50 for a lorry.
You cannot argue against the concept of saving lives by reducing pollution but that is a hefty payment. I can see some businesses losing custom.
I spent a few years working in the centre of Birmigham in the 90’s. I used to mix driving and train. Both had their pluses and minuses.
Anyone on here going to be affected?
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Simply a licence to print money, I'm sure struggling businesses need this like a hole in the head.
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Just been reading about the charges for this. £8 for car and £50 for a lorry.
You cannot argue against the concept of saving lives by reducing pollution but that is a hefty payment. I can see some businesses losing custom.
I spent a few years working in the centre of Birmigham in the 90’s. I used to mix driving and train. Both had their pluses and minuses.
Anyone on here going to be affected?
I've lived in Birmingham most of my life, and I have avoided going into the City Centre for several years now, waste of time.
It will soon become a ghost city.
The Labour council is altering roads left right and centre to make it more difficult to get around by car, causing more traffic jams, hence increasing pollution.
They expect all the O.A.P's to do their weekly shop at Tescos on a push bike.
Loads of buses being subsidised all travelling about empty.
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So it's just the area inside the inner ring road, that's about 2miles across?
Just how many people actually need to drive inside it?
Like the congestion zone in London it seems to be easily avoided by using roads better suited.
The idea of deliberately driving into any large city just because you have a car is crazy
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Last time we went to the centre was just before the pandemic. To the Jewelry quarter. Easy drive in, park up, sell a load of gold, buy some tat, have a coffee and drive out. Must be loads of people who do the same. Public transport isn’t that convenient especially if you aren’t too mobile.
The time before that was to take two olds to the new Bullring shopping centre. Came back with a car load of purchases. Couldn’t have done that on public transport.
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Last time we went to the centre was just before the pandemic. To the Jewelry quarter. Easy drive in, park up, sell a load of gold, buy some tat, have a coffee and drive out. Must be loads of people who do the same. Public transport isn’t that convenient especially if you aren’t too mobile.
The time before that was to take two olds to the new Bullring shopping centre. Came back with a car load of purchases. Couldn’t have done that on public transport.
Do you think either of those things are going to possible in the post-Covid urban retail wasteland? :)
Although there is a crystal clear view of the Wasteland....
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No. Online is the future.
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So it's just the area inside the inner ring road, that's about 2miles across?
Just how many people actually need to drive inside it?
Like the congestion zone in London it seems to be easily avoided by using roads better suited.
The idea of deliberately driving into any large city just because you have a car is crazy
Fortunately I haven't needed to go into Birmingham City centre for many years, however London congestion charge etc zones, usually at least once a week with work.
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No. Online is the future.
Not your local village it isn't :-X
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Anyone on here going to be affected?
Yup, my new office is right in the centre, when they finish building it.
As others have said, its simply a lame excuse to raise money to pull down statues, and otherwise piss it up the wall, just like London.
Places like the Bullring will ultimately close - double whammy of losing their large stores already, plus the fact nobody will drive there to do, say, xmas shopping. Then suddenly, the council will be crying that the centre has died, and how its everybody's fault but theirs.... ....much like Oxford city council ;D
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Anyone on here going to be affected?
Yup, my new office is right in the centre, when they finish building it.
As others have said, its simply a lame excuse to raise money to pull down statues, and otherwise piss it up the wall, just like London.
Places like the Bullring will ultimately close - double whammy of losing their large stores already, plus the fact nobody will drive there to do, say, xmas shopping. Then suddenly, the council will be crying that the centre has died, and how its everybody's fault but theirs.... ....much like Oxford city council ;D
And, of course, they get no money from the charge :)
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Anyone on here going to be affected?
Yup, my new office is right in the centre, when they finish building it.
As others have said, its simply a lame excuse to raise money to pull down statues, and otherwise piss it up the wall, just like London.
Places like the Bullring will ultimately close - double whammy of losing their large stores already, plus the fact nobody will drive there to do, say, xmas shopping. Then suddenly, the council will be crying that the centre has died, and how its everybody's fault but theirs.... ....much like Oxford city council ;D
And, of course, they get no money from the charge :)
They are causing congestion elseware, so they will have an excuse to widen the scheme until it takes in the whole of Birmingham.
Everyone will be confined to their houses, and only be able to order online.
Every road will become a bus or cycle lane if this council have their way.
They've already had to back track on the Bristol Road, after spending millions, as it made it too dangerous, now they're spending millions putting it back to how it was - yet the idiots keep voting them back it.
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If Birmingham really wanted clean air they should work with the government to stop the terrible congestion that brings both the M6, especially at the junction of the M5, and the M42 to frequent standstills.
The hours I have wasted sitting still on those roads over many years.......!!! >:( >:(
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If Birmingham really wanted clean air they should work with the government to stop the terrible congestion that brings both the M6, especially at the junction of the M5, and the M42 to frequent standstills.
The hours I have wasted sitting still on those roads over many years.......!!! >:( >:(
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100% true🌹
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Comparing the Birmingham not so stealth tax with London, the difference is, in London, you need to move around, sometimes that is by car. If you live around Birmingham, you can choose to go somewhere else and it's not a massive inconvenience. The audience up here is no where near as captive. Also, people are tighter with money up here.
Why pay the council £8 to drive on the roads you already pay for when you can go to Solihull and basically get a free lunch on the money you saved.
I don't think northerners will accept it anywhere near as much as London did and I really hope that is the case, before we see this everywhere.
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Comparing the Birmingham not so stealth tax with London, the difference is, in London, you need to move around, sometimes that is by car. If you live around Birmingham, you can choose to go somewhere else and it's not a massive inconvenience. The audience up here is no where near as captive. Also, people are tighter with money up here.
Why pay the council £8 to drive on the roads you already pay for when you can go to Solihull and basically get a free lunch on the money you saved.
I don't think northerners will accept it anywhere near as much as London did and I really hope that is the case, before we see this everywhere.
And the further north you go, the tighter people become.
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true ;D
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Comparing the Birmingham not so stealth tax with London, the difference is, in London, you need to move around, sometimes that is by car. If you live around Birmingham, you can choose to go somewhere else and it's not a massive inconvenience. The audience up here is no where near as captive. Also, people are tighter with money up here.
Why pay the council £8 to drive on the roads you already pay for when you can go to Solihull and basically get a free lunch on the money you saved.
I don't think northerners will accept it anywhere near as much as London did and I really hope that is the case, before we see this everywhere.
And the further north you go, the tighter people become.
Which is further north, Barnsley or Liverpool. ;) Just asking. :-*
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Comparing the Birmingham not so stealth tax with London, the difference is, in London, you need to move around, sometimes that is by car. If you live around Birmingham, you can choose to go somewhere else and it's not a massive inconvenience. The audience up here is no where near as captive. Also, people are tighter with money up here.
Why pay the council £8 to drive on the roads you already pay for when you can go to Solihull and basically get a free lunch on the money you saved.
I don't think northerners will accept it anywhere near as much as London did and I really hope that is the case, before we see this everywhere.
And the further north you go, the tighter people become.
Which is further north, Barnsley or Liverpool. ;) Just asking. :-*
Distance is irrelevant once you pass Watford Gap ;D
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If Birmingham really wanted clean air they should work with the government to stop the terrible congestion that brings both the M6, especially at the junction of the M5, and the M42 to frequent standstills.
The hours I have wasted sitting still on those roads over many years.......!!! >:( >:(
I'm guessing you haven't been that way for years ;D
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If people wanted to live in clean fresh fragrant air, I would guess that they wouldnt live in Birmingham. ::) ;D
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I can well imagine Newcastle City council trying something like this >:(
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My son works for PWC in the city centre. Part of his work requires him to go to client sites to do auditing. If hes not he cycles down a canel tow path. He has an immaculate W reg 21.5 year old Astra with only 65k on the clock. Up to now he's been happy to use his own car because the 45p a mile pays for the running costs on his car. It's a bit shite really.