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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Doctor Gollum on 16 July 2021, 11:47:31
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Work have decided, from Monday, that we have to be tested before we can start work.
Inspite of being fully vaccinated and are insisting that if you don't take a test/prove a negative result, then you get marked down for unauthorised absence, and if you test positive then you get marked down as sick and put onto SSP. Even if you have no symptoms and would otherwise have gone to work. All the while whilst furloughing/unfurloughing us every couple of days.
And inspite of not being able to work from home, you only qualify for the self isolating award if you have kids or are on benefits.
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people who have had 2 doses of vaccine can still catch and spread Chinese virus
25% of deaths are people who have had 2 vaccines
no one knows the long term effects of Covid yet ,and that includes the long term effect on people who show no symptoms and are unaffected when they first catch it ,including children :(
48,553 new cases proved by a test yesterday alone
(that doesn't include god knows how many who where infected but didn't take a test or are blissfully unaware )
EVERY NEW INFECTION IS A POTENCIAL NEW MUTATION
next week will see idiots not social distancing or wearing a mask because it's no longer mandatory >:(
expect cases to sky rocket , the hospitals will be overwhelmed , and U turns in policy
Your being SLIGHTLY inconvenienced DG ::) Welcome to Covid Britain 2021
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Doesn't sound unreasonable, I have had both jabs and yet still caught it :y
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Doesn't sound unreasonable, I have had both jabs and yet still caught it :y
Oh dear , sorry to hear that :(
I hope you recover well and have no long term problems
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people who have had 2 doses of vaccine can still catch and spread Chinese virus
25% of deaths are people who have had 2 vaccines
no one knows the long term effects of Covid yet ,and that includes the long term effect on people who show no symptoms and are unaffected when they first catch it ,including children :(
48,553 new cases proved by a test yesterday alone
(that doesn't include god knows how many who where infected but didn't take a test or are blissfully unaware )
EVERY NEW INFECTION IS A POTENCIAL NEW MUTATION
next week will see idiots not social distancing or wearing a mask because it's no longer mandatory >:(
expect cases to sky rocket , the hospitals will be overwhelmed , and U turns in policy
Your being SLIGHTLY inconvenienced DG ::) Welcome to Covid Britain 2021
If you're gonna shout, make sure you spell your shouty words correctly. ;D
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people who have had 2 doses of vaccine can still catch and spread Chinese virus
25% of deaths are people who have had 2 vaccines
no one knows the long term effects of Covid yet ,and that includes the long term effect on people who show no symptoms and are unaffected when they first catch it ,including children :(
48,553 new cases proved by a test yesterday alone
(that doesn't include god knows how many who where infected but didn't take a test or are blissfully unaware )
EVERY NEW INFECTION IS A POTENCIAL NEW MUTATION
next week will see idiots not social distancing or wearing a mask because it's no longer mandatory >:(
expect cases to sky rocket , the hospitals will be overwhelmed , and U turns in policy
Your being SLIGHTLY inconvenienced DG ::) Welcome to Covid Britain 2021
If you're gonna shout, make sure you spell your shouty words correctly. ;D
I still understood every word as I was used to deciphering all kinds of wonderful communications in the past! ;D ;D ;D ;)
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If you're gonna shout, make sure you spell your shouty words correctly. ;D
I didn't shout , i typed and made the letters big :)
I have fat fingers , i make mistakes :-[ and I'm rubbish at spelling :D
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Most people realise it's all going to go badly wrong, some folk think that the 19th of July is the date Covid releases its grip, fools the lot of them.
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It's not the inconvenience but rather the 'make it up as you go along' policy changes. And then using it as an excuse to cut wages.
If it suddenly isn't safe to go to work on Monday, what have we been doing since March with impunity. ???
No one knows the long term effects of being vaccinated either, but that doesn't seem to stop the push for getting it... Or the general willingness to receive it.
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I'll just be carrying on the same way I have for the past year or so. Mask in shops and sanitising my hands. No biggie.
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I'll just be carrying on the same way I have for the past year or so. Mask in shops and sanitising my hands. No biggie.
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Same here Steve, got used to it now as you say no big deal.
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I'll just be carrying on the same way I have for the past year or so. Mask in shops and sanitising my hands. No biggie.
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Same here Steve, got used to it now as you say no big deal.
Exactly. We have learnt to live with it as we do with life generally, not knowing what is around the next corner. We just make the best of every day trying to minimize the risks. :D;)
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No one knows the long term effects of being vaccinated either, but that doesn't seem to stop the push for getting it... Or the general willingness to receive it.
I'm double vaccinated but I have also thought about what that means in the future .
now the UK are ignoring the current explosion of new cases and scrapping "mandatory mask and social distancing" I hear 33% of people won't bother after "chinese virus freedom day" with either .
effectively allowing the virus to spread throughout the population
what if vaccines become unavailable or ineffective due to a new variant :o
or, will we be reliant on hopefully getting the effective vaccines and what if vaccines are no longer free*
*free - yes vaccines are not free now ,because they are paid for from taxes, but what if it becomes like a prescription charge that some won't have funds to pay for ,effectively "no pay - no live"
the "Omega variant" is possibly not too far away
though that will probably rust pretty quick and be scrapped ;D
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No one knows the long term effects of being vaccinated either, but that doesn't seem to stop the push for getting it... Or the general willingness to receive it.
I'm double vaccinated but I have also thought about what that means in the future .
now the UK are ignoring the current explosion of new cases and scrapping "mandatory mask and social distancing" I hear 33% of people won't bother after "chinese virus freedom day" with either .
effectively allowing the virus to spread throughout the population
what if vaccines become unavailable or ineffective due to a new variant :o
or, will we be reliant on hopefully getting the effective vaccines and what if vaccines are no longer free*
*free - yes vaccines are not free now ,because they are paid for from taxes, but what if it becomes like a prescription charge that some won't have funds to pay for ,effectively "no pay - no live"
the "Omega variant" is possibly not too far away
though that will probably rust pretty quick and be scrapped ;D
We live with flue, risks from terminal cancer, a fatal car accident, and goodness knows what else during our lives. Just carry on and enjoy what you can Dave whilst you can. Our lives are too short to over worry about it. Just remember what previous generations had to go through. That WAS bloody hard, but they still got up every morning and made the best of the day as they could. We are much better placed than they ever were. ;)
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No one knows the long term effects of being vaccinated either, but that doesn't seem to stop the push for getting it... Or the general willingness to receive it.
I'm double vaccinated but I have also thought about what that means in the future .
now the UK are ignoring the current explosion of new cases and scrapping "mandatory mask and social distancing" I hear 33% of people won't bother after "chinese virus freedom day" with either .
effectively allowing the virus to spread throughout the population
what if vaccines become unavailable or ineffective due to a new variant :o
or, will we be reliant on hopefully getting the effective vaccines and what if vaccines are no longer free*
*free - yes vaccines are not free now ,because they are paid for from taxes, but what if it becomes like a prescription charge that some won't have funds to pay for ,effectively "no pay - no live"
the "Omega variant" is possibly not too far away
though that will probably rust pretty quick and be scrapped ;D
We live with flue, risks from terminal cancer, a fatal car accident, and goodness knows what else during our lives. Just carry on and enjoy what you can Dave whilst you can. Our lives are too short to over worry about it. Just remember what previous generations had to go through. That WAS bloody hard, but they still got up every morning and made the best of the day as they could. We are much better placed than they ever were. ;)
Yes, my flue has a terminal ;D
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No one knows the long term effects of being vaccinated either, but that doesn't seem to stop the push for getting it... Or the general willingness to receive it.
I'm double vaccinated but I have also thought about what that means in the future .
now the UK are ignoring the current explosion of new cases and scrapping "mandatory mask and social distancing" I hear 33% of people won't bother after "chinese virus freedom day" with either .
effectively allowing the virus to spread throughout the population
what if vaccines become unavailable or ineffective due to a new variant :o
or, will we be reliant on hopefully getting the effective vaccines and what if vaccines are no longer free*
*free - yes vaccines are not free now ,because they are paid for from taxes, but what if it becomes like a prescription charge that some won't have funds to pay for ,effectively "no pay - no live"
the "Omega variant" is possibly not too far away
though that will probably rust pretty quick and be scrapped ;D
We live with flue, risks from terminal cancer, a fatal car accident, and goodness knows what else during our lives. Just carry on and enjoy what you can Dave whilst you can. Our lives are too short to over worry about it. Just remember what previous generations had to go through. That WAS bloody hard, but they still got up every morning and made the best of the day as they could. We are much better placed than they ever were. ;)
Yes, my flue has a terminal ;D
Yes, I have done it again!!! ::) ::) ::) ::) I blame it on my love of coal fires and steam engines that have flues. Flu is so boring compared to that..........................that's my excuse anyway!! ::) ::) ;D ;D ;)
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Buy shares in Pharmaceuticals. Next year or is it later this year we will all be q’ing to get our annual vaccine for covid. They have already said that the booster jabs wont be the cut price induced by the ill fated AZ.
Money to be made out of this mess. Amazon are still a good buy too.
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When your times up that's it, no matter what you do you cannot change your position in the queue.
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No one knows the long term effects of being vaccinated either, but that doesn't seem to stop the push for getting it... Or the general willingness to receive it.
I'm double vaccinated but I have also thought about what that means in the future .
now the UK are ignoring the current explosion of new cases and scrapping "mandatory mask and social distancing" I hear 33% of people won't bother after "chinese virus freedom day" with either .
effectively allowing the virus to spread throughout the population
what if vaccines become unavailable or ineffective due to a new variant :o
or, will we be reliant on hopefully getting the effective vaccines and what if vaccines are no longer free*
*free - yes vaccines are not free now ,because they are paid for from taxes, but what if it becomes like a prescription charge that some won't have funds to pay for ,effectively "no pay - no live"
the "Omega variant" is possibly not too far away
though that will probably rust pretty quick and be scrapped ;D
We live with flue, risks from terminal cancer, a fatal car accident, and goodness knows what else during our lives. Just carry on and enjoy what you can Dave whilst you can. Our lives are too short to over worry about it. Just remember what previous generations had to go through. That WAS bloody hard, but they still got up every morning and made the best of the day as they could. We are much better placed than they ever were. ;)
Yes indeed, well said Lizz :y
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Doesn't sound unreasonable, I have had both jabs and yet still caught it :y
Cripes, sorry to hear that.
Tell us more.
Which vaccine? Was it 2+ weeks after the second? And how bad did you get COVID?
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We live with flue, risks from terminal cancer, a fatal car accident, and goodness knows what else during our lives. Just carry on and enjoy what you can Dave whilst you can. Our lives are too short to over worry about it. Just remember what previous generations had to go through. That WAS bloody hard, but they still got up every morning and made the best of the day as they could. We are much better placed than they ever were. ;)
thanks for the tip Lizzie :)
drugs , hookers and booze it is then :D
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We live with flue, risks from terminal cancer, a fatal car accident, and goodness knows what else during our lives. Just carry on and enjoy what you can Dave whilst you can. Our lives are too short to over worry about it. Just remember what previous generations had to go through. That WAS bloody hard, but they still got up every morning and made the best of the day as they could. We are much better placed than they ever were. ;)
thanks for the tip Lizzie :)
drugs , hookers and booze it is then :D
If that is what makes someone tick, and does not affect other people ,which probably is impossible, do it in the time you have got left which will be speeded up by that mix!! ;D ;D ;D ;D Live and let live, until that knock on the door by the grim reaper! :o :o ;D ;D ;)
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What😱 aren’t you going to spend any on yourself 🤭 :y
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My gripe is that whilst we're furloughed, we get paid a percentage of our full wage, and this is topped up if we take holiday or work any shifts.
If we're off sick, then we only get SSP and then only for our rostered shifts, regardless of whether we are furloughed or not. So lets say you're off for a couple of days with a stomach bug, then you wouldn't get anything, but then you would only be off for the minimum amount of time.
However, if we have to self isolate, it's for a mandated ten days. The kicker is only being paid SSP for the days you would be on shift, even though you cannot return work even if you feel better. So we could be off for ten days and only get SSP for four even though if we were furloughed, we would have been paid for ten.
I know that this might come across as selfish whining, but the majority of people here are either semi/retired and therefore unaffected, or are able to work from home and will be being paid regardless of why they aren't in the office.
And obviously rates are going to rise if people are going to be out and about. Hide under the bed if you want, but some people actually want to be back at work.
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As an aside, if you have both doses of two vaccines are you, and others, more or less protected?
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As an aside, if you have both doses of two vaccines are you, and others, more or less protected?
statistically , with 2 doses you stand less chance of serious illness and death ,
(25% of deaths are double jabbed )
2 doses doesn't stop you catching Chinese virus though ,you still catch it
and you can still spread it to many other people and they could die ,vaccinated or not
the Beta (south African) variant ,that everyone is rushing back from France with in the next few days ,(so they don't have to quarantine) is not greatly protected against by the Astra zeneka jab
54,674 new cases today ,
with 630,000 estimated active cases last week alone
so , depends how lucky you're feeling :-\
wearing a mask ,washing your hands and staying away from people HELPS stop the spread :)
but come Monday, 1 in 3 people won't bother according to surveys >:(
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You misread my question...
How protected would you be if you had TWO double doses of DIFFERENT vaccines?
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no real world data is available because multiple mixed vaccines have not been rolled out yet ,
some studies have been done with 1 dose of AZ and 1 of Phizer
Just like very little is known about the Virus itself .
maybe with time we will have a selection of vaccines that will work very well
but we are not there yet , far too much faith has been placed in 2 jabs of the current offerings
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The statistic about 25% of deaths being double jabbed might well be misleading though, due to how deaths are recorded and who is vaccinated.
We (quite rightly) chose to double vaccinate the elderly and those with underlying health conditions first. Ie, those who were more likely to die with or without covid.
Then consider how the death stats are compiled. If I catch covid and then die within 30 days, that's a covid death, regardless of whether it was a car accident, genuinely covid related, or sh@gged to death by Miss world (listed in ascending order of likelihood :y).
So, you have all these people who are at an increased risk of dying anyway, who, if the are diagnosed with covid (for example when they're tested on admission to hospital due to a heart attack) will be counted as a covid death whether or not the HGV that ran them over was a contributing factor to their demise.
Incidentally, I'm not a covid denier or against vaccination (I'll be double jabbed on 28/7 - as early as I could be), and I will be wearing a mask in public places and sanitising my hands for the foreseeable future, but I am wary of MSM media statistics.
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Having just looked at the Gov website, there is no time limit in England for deaths "due to covid", so presumably if I tested positive in May last year, and get crushed by a comedy anvil tomorrow, I could become a Covid death statistic ::)
Scotland apply a 28day cut off and I CBA to look at Wales...
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Having just looked at the Gov website, there is no time limit in England for deaths "due to covid", so presumably if I tested positive in May last year, and get crushed by a comedy anvil tomorrow, I could become a Covid death statistic ::)
Scotland apply a 28day cut off and I CBA to look at Wales...
Parts of it a very nice...
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The latest from Worldstats suggests that only 4.1 million have died out of 190 million cases... So depending on the state of your glass fully/emptynessometer that's a two ish percent chance of dying or over 97% chance of recovery.
And that's out of a total population of 7,500 million people.
So either this is just beginning or it was never a real concern. :-X
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Back at the start the "died within 28 days of a positive test" was relevant but with new treatments etc someone is much more likely to still be alive after day 28 , HOWEVER ...
the blood clots, damaged organs etc caused by Cineese virus will kill you a few months down the line :(
yes, someone may get run over by a HGV and be counted ,
the "died within 28 days of a positive test" is still the figure used by news reporters :(
the true death toll is much worse . and that's not taking into account deaths due to cancer, flu , heart attack etc etc that did not get treated due to Chinese virus patients hogging all the hospital beds .those deaths are a direct result of the Virus too.
Already , even before "freedom day" hospital appointments and routine operations are being cancelled again.
in many countries tests are not available , and death figures are not realistic and even played down ,
the TRUE death toll and Financial loss due to Chinese Virus is unfathomable right now .
Yes , we do need to move on and live with, or die from Chinese virus ,but I hope everyone will continue to wear a mask inside shops etc , and social distance ,even though it won't be "the law"
the more we do to stop the spread ,the more lives will be saved ;)
I see Health Secretary Sajid Javid has tested positive for Covid-19 (https://www.aol.co.uk/news/javid-tests-positive-covid-lockdown-152140026.html) ::) :-X
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To put a different perspective on the timeline scenario as regards deaths, in my previous employ a potential fatal RTC had a timeline of 30 days. Ie, crash happens with casualty, if death within 30 days considered as a fatal crash. If longer than 30 days, then simply a sudden death with various associated causes.
Sad but true…
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A line has to be drawn somewhere.
The issue currently is the politicisation of the numbers rather than a legal culpability as in an RTA or plane crash ;)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdMWHB6Kz3A ;D
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Back to drug fueled whoring and drinking then :D
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Why stop I say👍😎
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:( Get ready for another lockdown people , it's only a matter of when :(
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:( Get ready for another lockdown people , it's only a matter of when :(
There'll be an increase of infections throughout August.
Expect the restrictions to be back in place once the bank holiday weekend is over.
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It's fairly obvious to anyone with an ounce of commonsense that mixing in large numbers will cause a surge in cases, the non believers are simply kidding themselves.
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Drakefords a dick, or is it duck🤔 but he is not doing too badly on the restrictions here in Wales. Harsh but needed IMHO.
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I hear that Boris and Rishi have had to backtrack pretty smartish on their plan not to self isolate after Javid,s covid confirmation. Their plan of joining one of the daily testing trials was probably going to be seen as taking the piss. ;D Don't forget, we're all in it together. ;)
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My mate was sick as dog all last week with 'Covid'. :(
Had all the symptoms and went to the local test centre and his test came back negative. ???
Saw him yesterday and he still looked pretty shaky. :-\
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Would have thought DG, you'd have given up aeroplane stuff, and gone chassing the big HGV monies that are about
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Hopefully pay and working conditions will improve for Lorry drivers when supplies running low impact people . :-\
didn't work for Nurses etc though :(
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Hopefully pay and working conditions will improve for Lorry drivers when supplies running low impact people . :-\
didn't work for Nurses etc though :(
Yeah, would need to know up front.
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Would have thought DG, you'd have given up aeroplane stuff, and gone chassing the big HGV monies that are about
There's adverts for HGV driver jobs in the Gents at Sedgmore M5 services from a nationwide haulage company. £40-60K tramping.
If it gets to £100k I might consider resurrecting my licence! :D
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I know our place was really struggling for anyone half decent paying in the high £30's and that was down in South Wales, so not exactly an expensive part of the country!
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Would have thought DG, you'd have given up aeroplane stuff, and gone chassing the big HGV monies that are about
There's adverts for HGV driver jobs in the Gents at Sedgmore M5 services from a nationwide haulage company. £40-60K tramping.
If it gets to £100k I might consider resurrecting my licence! :D
It's my back up plan, but not yet made redundant so invested in obtaining my Part 66 A licence ;)
I will renew my medical this year though...
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Around the Avonmouth area £22ph mon-fri is common and £30+ for weekends, biggest problems is all thro agency, yet the companies won't pay more than £12-£14 direct :o
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Yes it’s unbelievable that companies don’t mind paying much higher wages to agencies rather than their own direct employees, and the fees as well👐.
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Yes it’s unbelievable that companies don’t mind paying much higher wages to agencies rather than their own direct employees, and the fees as well👐.
recruiting, training, managing and keeping employees costs a lot, especially when there is a large turnover. Paying an agency probably isn't much different. It isn't a long-term solution, but who bothers with those anymore?
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Yes it’s unbelievable that companies don’t mind paying much higher wages to agencies rather than their own direct employees, and the fees as well👐.
It's not. Direct employees incur extra costs on the company - Employers National Insurance (13.8%), (admin of) Employees National Insurance, (admin of) Employees PAYE and Employees Pension contributions (3% minimum) to name a few. All these have to be paid by the company directly to HMRC or the Pension company, which puts a liability on the company. There is also sick pay and holiday pay, plus potentially redundancy pay if you want to terminate some ones employment.
So for a headline salary of say £30K it could easily cost the company another £5-10K to employ someone. If you can farm all that responsibility out to a subcontractor/agency for sub £35-40K then you'll be in profit, and if things go south you can 'sack' the subby/agency with little comeback. If you get a good subby, and business is going well, then you can bring them onto the payroll.
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Fair enough that’s another thing to think of.
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Interesting/worrying stat from today's news conference:
"Sir Patrick Vallance says 60% of those admitted to hospital have been fully vaccinated but he stresses this is "not surprising" as most people have now been vaccinated".
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And another one:
"Vallance points out that deaths are increasing and we will see an increase over the next few weeks, with daily deaths moving into the hundreds".
Dear me.
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And another one:
"Vallance points out that deaths are increasing and we will see an increase over the next few weeks, with daily deaths moving into the hundreds".
Dear me.
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Quite honestly I'm not surprised, another lockdown will probably be on the cards in a few weeks, so many idiots around, it beggars belief.
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Meanwhile they were interviewing those who had spent the night clubbing along with thousands of others on the radio this morning. ::)
Hmm. Maybe TheBoy's much needed cull of the stupid is actually starting... ;)
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And another one:
"Vallance points out that deaths are increasing and we will see an increase over the next few weeks, with daily deaths moving into the hundreds".
Dear me.
This isn't a surprise in any way, shale or form. Nor was it going to be.
So why, pray tell, do people seem surprised?
Either accept it as a consequence or take steps to prevent it, but whichever course is chosen be honest about it rather than pretending that everything is fine.
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Three weeks ago they were predicting 100,000 cases a day by 'Freedom Day' (ie today) and every news bulletin on the BBC had some expert or other predicting disaster. ::)
39,950 new cases were recorded today and 19 deaths for any reason within 28 days of a positive Covid test.
That's still the highest new case figure for any country, but then we carry out more tests than any other comparable country. Twice that of France, three times that of Italy and Spain and over four times that of Germany! :o
The BBC never point that out do they? ???
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And another one:
"Vallance points out that deaths are increasing and we will see an increase over the next few weeks, with daily deaths moving into the hundreds".
Dear me.
This isn't a surprise in any way, shale or form. Nor was it going to be.
So why, pray tell, do people seem surprised?
Either accept it as a consequence or take steps to prevent it, but whichever course is chosen be honest about it rather than pretending that everything is fine.
He is being honest about it, that's why he said it ;D
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And another one:
"Vallance points out that deaths are increasing and we will see an increase over the next few weeks, with daily deaths moving into the hundreds".
Dear me.
This isn't a surprise in any way, shale or form. Nor was it going to be.
So why, pray tell, do people seem surprised?
Because people are idiots reacting to politicians who have spent years programming them to ignore anything they say or do.
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And another one:
"Vallance points out that deaths are increasing and we will see an increase over the next few weeks, with daily deaths moving into the hundreds".
Dear me.
This isn't a surprise in any way, shale or form. Nor was it going to be.
So why, pray tell, do people seem surprised?
Because people are idiots reacting to politicians who have spent years programming them to ignore anything they say or do.
Hear hear👍
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Some very deep stuff on here, hard to keep up ;D
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Some very deep stuff on here, hard to keep up ;D
I'll sum it up :)
cases and hospitalisations are going to go through the roof, more restrictions will follow because people are stupid ;)
:D ;D
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Some very deep stuff on here, hard to keep up ;D
I'll sum it up :)
cases and hospitalisations are going to go through the roof, more restrictions will follow because people are stupid ;)
:D ;D
Yeah.....but who programmed the people to be stupid? :-\
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Some very deep stuff on here, hard to keep up ;D
I'll sum it up :)
cases and hospitalisations are going to go through the roof, more restrictions will follow because people are stupid ;)
:D ;D
Yeah.....but who programmed the people to be stupid? :-\
They just are.
You need to watch some George Carlin:
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.
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Stupidity is contagious, people find it quite easy to adapt to it👍
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Especially when encouraged by idiotic politicians
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Especially when encouraged by idiotic politicians
Are all people stupid then? Or most people, or just some people? How do I tell the stupid ones from the not stupid ones?
Or, is it not worth bothering to work that out, and just much easier to say 'people are stupid'?
Hmmmm..... :-\
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No Stemo👀 you’re missing the point….. we’re all stupid :y
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Anyone on here fancy clubbing tonight ? I was going to say visit a discotheque but that would show my age..😄
It's the thing to do now according to the news it's so safe 😃😃😃
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Pictures from last nights opening were crazy, if was there I certainly wouldn’t have shown my face. What’s wrong with these people. Apart from being young and impetuous 😂 but of course it will only increase the chance of spreading the virus
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Especially when encouraged by idiotic politicians
Are all people stupid then? Or most people, or just some people? How do I tell the stupid ones from the not stupid ones?
Or, is it not worth bothering to work that out, and just much easier to say 'people are stupid'?
Hmmmm..... :-\
Yes.
Seriously, did you need to ask? You must have met people ???
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😂😂😂
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My daughter and son in law went to the Euro final. They are both double jabbed. They belong to an England supporters club and have been informed that a number of the club members have contacted the virus. At least ten who tested positive were double jabbed with the AZ vaccine. Also they have just got back from Mallorca, today, and are off to Spain tomorrow week. ::) Needless to say, they ain't coming round here any time soon. ;D
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My daughter and son in law went to the Euro final. They are both double jabbed. They belong to an England supporters club and have been informed that a number of the club members have contacted the virus. At least ten who tested positive were double jabbed with the AZ vaccine. Also they have just got back from Mallorca, today, and are off to Spain tomorrow week. ::) Needless to say, they ain't coming round here any time soon. ;D
Are they stupid, Ronny? ;D
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How did they contact the virus Ron? E Mail/Text? Ha ha😂👍👍
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I see John McAfee died last month. I was dying for it to be from a virus ;D
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The sooner it spreads to everyone, the sooner we can carry on regadless. :-X
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What’s that Doc? A new strain? ( regadless)? :D
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My daughter and son in law went to the Euro final. They are both double jabbed. They belong to an England supporters club and have been informed that a number of the club members have contacted the virus. At least ten who tested positive were double jabbed with the AZ vaccine. Also they have just got back from Mallorca, today, and are off to Spain tomorrow week. ::) Needless to say, they ain't coming round here any time soon. ;D
If we tested for diabetes at the rate we are testing for TCV, there would, obviously, be a spike in the number of diabetics, and that arguably kills more people.
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The sooner it spreads to everyone, the sooner we can carry on regadless. :-X
you might not be alive to "carry on regadless" :-\ DG ::) or do you know different ?
has your crystal ball told you there will be No long term problems with people catching Chinese Virus :-\ the ones that live beyond 5 years say ? assuming we don't get a variant in the next 5 years that doesn't kill 90% of people, jabbed or not :(
If your crystal ball has ::) then take it back to pound-land or whatever Tat pedlar you got it from ;)
if anyone else's crystal ball says 'sooner it spreads to everyone' the better ::) then I ask "why didn't that crystal ball warn us to nuke the Wuhan Institute of Virology 3 years ago ? "
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We didn't care then, why should now be any different?
As for the chance of dying from it or worse... I, or you or anyone else, could be hit by a bus tomorrow, die in ten years from undiagnosed testicular cancer or live to 125 and die in my sleep.
Is that a bad thing? We've been barraged over the years about how we've destroyed most everything and that we've run out of/excesses of* materials/food/water/land/air/electricity/trees/oil/sunlight/wind.
*Depending on who you ask and whether your feet are wet or dry and if they had lunch.
The irony of this virus is that it is man made and that of all the things we have apparently destroyed, the human race is our piece de resistance.
So if we were previously able to be oblivious to it, what's to say that we cannot carry on that way?
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Interesting/worrying stat from today's news conference:
"Sir Patrick Vallance says 60% of those admitted to hospital have been fully vaccinated but he stresses this is "not surprising" as most people have now been vaccinated".
OOPS 🤪 Sir Patrick says, this morning, that he made a slight boo boo. 60% is the number of unvaccinated people in hospital. Easy done ;D
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Interesting reading throughout this thread but it actually comes down to the fact that nobody has a fuc**ng clue about this virus.
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As for the chance of dying from it or worse... I, or you or anyone else, could be hit by a bus tomorrow, die in ten years from undiagnosed testicular cancer or live to 125 and die in my sleep.
By letting the Virus spread and mutate so rapidly in the UK we are effectively flooding the roads with speeding p155ed up bus drivers likely to kill many people .
the mandatory wearing of masks and social distancing in shops and public buildings would not have cost anything to keep in place ,polls show two thirds of people wanted that still in place now
this would not effect the selfish idiots who don't give a f*** ,other than they would have to wear a mask and give people space in shops etc .
Boris is well known for doing U turns on policy ::)
making masks and social distancing mandatory again would be one U turn that people could agree with and also save lives and lost work hours .
best outcome possible for you if you do live through this DG is that you will be working hard to pay off the debt the UK has incurred thus far and pay benefits to support the 20% of the population on the sick with "long covid "because Chinese virus has spread so far into the population ::)
think about how things have changed in 18 months because of bad decisions ,cover ups and a "lets just see what happens" attitude ;)
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My wife finishes for the summer hols tomorrow. I have told her that shops seem to be the most dangerous places and it has been scientifically proven that more cases of covid are caught in shops (esp clothes shops) than anywhere else.
Think it will work? ;D
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My wife finishes for the summer hols tomorrow. I have told her that shops seem to be the most dangerous places and it has been scientifically proven that more cases of covid are caught in shops (esp clothes shops) than anywhere else.
Think it will work? ;D
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Not a chance, online shopping is quite popular now I believe & so that eliminates the risk of going into those germ ridden shops.
Credit cards accepted , just make sure you pay the bill in full 😄
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My wife finishes for the summer hols tomorrow. I have told her that shops seem to be the most dangerous places and it has been scientifically proven that more cases of covid are caught in shops (esp clothes shops) than anywhere else.
Think it will work? ;D
Its worked here for the past 15 months. :y
Although Ive just been informed that she had an online spree last night ! :o ;D
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My daughter and son in law went to the Euro final. They are both double jabbed. They belong to an England supporters club and have been informed that a number of the club members have contacted the virus. At least ten who tested positive were double jabbed with the AZ vaccine. Also they have just got back from Mallorca, today, and are off to Spain tomorrow week. ::) Needless to say, they ain't coming round here any time soon. ;D
Are they stupid, Ronny? ;D
The situation is an odd one Steve. They are both covid aware, SIL is Type 2 Diabetic. They obey the mask rules etc. but, they live for holibobs and travel. As long as they don't bring it here IDGAF. ;D
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You overlook the point that testing people exponentially will obviously produce an exponential increase in positive tests.
Other countries that aren't testing to the extent we are don't appear to have the cases we do. Doesn't mean that they or we actually have less or more cases.
As for the cost of so called long covid, we were forever being told about the long term costs of lung disease and cholesterol and obesity and diabetes... ie there is always something. It's just that TCV is the current 'thing'...
Along with global warming and everything else, that is.
And the whole point of being vaccinated is to reduce the likelihood of being hospitalised, so it is of no surprise that the majority of people in hospital with it aren't vaccinated. Highlighting that single point might get through to those who get their medical advice from Faceachebook. The other third would probably be in hospital for one reason or another.
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You overlook the point that testing people exponentially will obviously produce an exponential increase in positive tests.
Other countries that aren't testing to the extent we are don't appear to have the cases we do. Doesn't mean that they or we actually have less or more cases.
I think you are taking your mate Trump's approach there "we are testing too much and i don't like the high numbers the tests prove " ::)
you've always had a blase attitude about the risks of the virus :-X
like I said "think about how things have changed in 18 months"
perhaps re read this thread from last year (https://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=146415.0) ::)
though your views haven't changed much despite everything that has happened :o
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You overlook the point that testing people exponentially will obviously produce an exponential increase in positive tests.
Other countries that aren't testing to the extent we are don't appear to have the cases we do. Doesn't mean that they or we actually have less or more cases.
I think you are taking your mate Trump's approach there "we are testing too much and i don't like the high numbers the tests prove " ::)
you've always had a blase attitude about the risks of the virus :-X
like I said "think about how things have changed in 18 months"
perhaps re read this thread from last year (https://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=146415.0) ::)
though your views haven't changed much despite everything that has happened :o
Trump could have been right. We never did try injecting disinfectant or microwaving people. ;D
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96 deaths today, btw. ::)
But that's probably just catching up with the folk who were inconsiderate enough to die over the weekend.
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You overlook the point that testing people exponentially will obviously produce an exponential increase in positive tests.
Other countries that aren't testing to the extent we are don't appear to have the cases we do. Doesn't mean that they or we actually have less or more cases.
I think you are taking your mate Trump's approach there "we are testing too much and i don't like the high numbers the tests prove " ::)
you've always had a blase attitude about the risks of the virus :-X
like I said "think about how things have changed in 18 months"
perhaps re read this thread from last year (https://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=146415.0) ::)
though your views haven't changed much despite everything that has happened :o
Trump could have been right. We never did try injecting disinfectant or microwaving people. ;D
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Alcohol works definitely, no need to inject orally is fine & can be bought virtually anywhere .
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You overlook the point that testing people exponentially will obviously produce an exponential increase in positive tests.
Other countries that aren't testing to the extent we are don't appear to have the cases we do. Doesn't mean that they or we actually have less or more cases.
I think you are taking your mate Trump's approach there "we are testing too much and i don't like the high numbers the tests prove " ::)
you've always had a blase attitude about the risks of the virus :-X
like I said "think about how things have changed in 18 months"
perhaps re read this thread from last year (https://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=146415.0) ::)
though your views haven't changed much despite everything that has happened :o
The statistics haven't changed respective to global population.
And I am still not going to suddenly start running around in a media induced panic just because some who is thinks I should.
Besides, washing in Dettol and hiding under the bed won't change anything except push up the price of Dettol...
If it's going to spread to everyone, we may as well accept that and get on with it.
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My wife finishes for the summer hols tomorrow. I have told her that shops seem to be the most dangerous places and it has been scientifically proven that more cases of covid are caught in shops (esp clothes shops) than anywhere else.
Think it will work? ;D
Jewellers. You didn't forget those, did you? ::)
The virus likes shiny things.