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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Varche on 14 August 2021, 18:06:59
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Why would anyone in the UK need a pump action shotgun let alone a licence for one?
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I thought they were banned. :-\
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I thought they were banned. :-\
Didn't think so, as its not a true automatic rifle?
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Why would anyone in the UK need a pump action shotgun let alone a licence for one?
And what is wrong with that, if they have the necessary paperwork, which as I understand it, is not the easiest to get, and has regular reviews.
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I thought they were banned. :-\
Didn't think so, as its not a true automatic rifle?
A shot gun is a very different beast to a rifle, automatic or otherwise.
Getting laid would have been a whole lot easier than getting a licence for a pump action shot gun. Not to mention the actual purchase. :-\
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Why would anyone in the UK need a pump action shotgun let alone a licence for one?
And what is wrong with that, if they have the necessary paperwork, which as I understand it, is not the easiest to get, and has regular reviews.
This is interesting .... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58198857
I forget now who, on telly said it. but ...... the very request for a licence should be grounds for refusal ::)
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That's alot of shotguns :o
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Used to be very hard to get a licence, from what has been reported if it can be believed he should never have had his licence reissued , reports say assault charges + mental health issues someone has really slipped up badly.
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I would bet my bottom dollar that he was a stoner. Probably wouldnt be publicised though, as the new Cannabis industry is being gradually lined up to replace the tobacco industry as a source of tax revenue.
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I would bet my bottom dollar that he was a stoner. Probably wouldnt be publicised though, as the new Cannabis industry is being gradually lined up to replace the tobacco industry as a source of tax revenue.
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After seeing his picture I would stick with my gut feelings which have always been correct are if they look mad they probably are .
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Why would anyone in the UK need a pump action shotgun let alone a licence for one?
So you've never been in the countryside?
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Spent the first 18 years and last 18 living very rural. I know why someone would have a shotgun for game shooting or vermin control.
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Spent the first 18 years and last 18 living very rural. I know why someone would have a shotgun for game shooting or vermin control.
Which begs the question as to why you think a pump action shotgun would be any different to a traditional one :-\
A pump action shotgun fullfils the same purpose with a greater capacity than two shots. All this means is that you can shoot more rabbits before having to add more shells. Although the only real saving is the carrying of extra shells in the gun itself rather than your pocket.
Think of it as the shot gun equivalent of a bolt action rifle with a magazine (which in itself is a very different proposition to say an AK47 or an SA80 that fires 6-750 rounds a minute).
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Which begs the question as to why you think a pump action shotgun would be any different to a traditional one :-\
A pump action shotgun fulfils the same purpose with a greater capacity than two shots. All this means is that you can shoot more rabbits before having to add more shells. Although the only real saving is the carrying of extra shells in the gun itself rather than your pocket.
There are other advantages: one barrel makes aiming easier, only one trigger mechanism is simpler and more robust, the whole gun is more robust from not having to break open, the safety is likely to be more reliable and so on.
There are good reasons for owning shotguns and small calibre rifles for legal use in Britain, and the restrictions of their ownership reflect that.
It's much harder to claim that handguns are useful tools for legal use, so they re very tightly restricted.
Mass shootings are a rare event in the UK(2010, 1996 and 1987 were the previous ones), which suggests that the rules work well. Tightening the regulations even further probably isn't practical, although investigation of who they were recently applied to this latest gun owner would be sensible
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Just found this.
Prohibited Firearms in the UK
Fully automatic or burst-fire – this may include some airguns
Semi-automatic or pump-action rifles which fire centre-fire ammunition
Cartridge ammunition handguns, regardless of calibre
Firearms disguised as another item (such as a mobile phone or a walking stick)
Rockets and mortars
Would imgine the "Pump Action " includes shotguns.
Must admit have never seen a mobile phone weapen, seen a walking stick .410 single shot.
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Hand guns are ideal personal defense weapons (slightly oxymoronic), although nothing says 'GTF out of my house' more efficiently than the crunch of a pump action shotgun.
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Pump /Semi auto shotguns limited to three shots max in the uk, Can't think of anything worse than close range being hit with one ,I've done a lot of rough shooting and have seen the damage they inflict :'(
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Just found this.
Prohibited Firearms in the UK
Fully automatic or burst-fire – this may include some airguns
Semi-automatic or pump-action rifles which fire centre-fire ammunition
Cartridge ammunition handguns, regardless of calibre
Firearms disguised as another item (such as a mobile phone or a walking stick)
Rockets and mortars
Would imgine the "Pump Action " includes shotguns.
Must admit have never seen a mobile phone weapen, seen a walking stick .410 single shot.
Re read it and report back... A rifle and a shot gun are ery different, both in what they do and how they are used. Shotguns are relatively short distance whereas rifles have a much greater effective range... Better for stalking/hunting and offensive and defensive distance work. The pump action part is merely how the round is chambererd.
As for disguised firearms, these are primarily for nefarious acts such as being inconspicuous in a public place or to be smuggled in to places they have no place such as aircraft... Think assassination or hijacking. ;)
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My neighbours know I have firearms & have done for years as do most of my farmer friends ,who I have helped out on occasions all my weapons are stored in a very secure gun cabinet which would probably take a JCB to remove. They are inspected regularly for security and even my GP has been contacted a few times regarding my suitability just in case of mental health issues how this individual slipped through the net means someone has not carried out the checks required, but sadly it is too late for the families involved in this tragedy.
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Remember, for the most part, shot guns are less lethal than most other firearms. Clearly still quite effective at close range. As are blades, axes, sledgehammers and so on.
The original question was "Why would anyone need a pump action shotgun". Why would anyone need a set of golf clubs, sports cars, push bikes, whatever. Its people's hobbies, and in the case of shotguns, vermin control and hunting.
The guy had a valid licence for it, thus it was legally owned. Whether or not he should have is a completely different question, though the mainstream media, without any of the facts, have already been judge and jury on that, so any enquiry is oppsed before it starts.
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My neighbours know I have firearms & have done for years as do most of my farmer friends ,who I have helped out on occasions all my weapons are stored in a very secure gun cabinet which would probably take a JCB to remove. They are inspected regularly for security and even my GP has been contacted a few times regarding my suitability just in case of mental health issues , how I've slipped through the net for so long means someone has not carried out the checks required, but sadly it is too late for the families involved in this tragedy.
Fixed that for you :y
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My neighbours know I have firearms & have done for years as do most of my farmer friends ,who I have helped out on occasions all my weapons are stored in a very secure gun cabinet which would probably take a JCB to remove. They are inspected regularly for security and even my GP has been contacted a few times regarding my suitability just in case of mental health issues , how I've slipped through the net for so long means someone has not carried out the checks required, but sadly it is too late for the families involved in this tragedy.
Fixed that for you :y
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Didn't think it would take that long..😂😂😂
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Not having used a Shotgun for many years, but I do remember when the law changed regarding pump action shotguns, and only allowing 3 cartridges in, all they did was bolted a piece of machine stell into the chamber,to only allow 3 to be loaded, I will let you work out how, you could return to putting 6/7 cartridges back in.
Also a pump action serves no purpose, if you can't hit a Wabbit with two then give up.
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Not having used a Shotgun for many years, but I do remember when the law changed regarding pump action shotguns, and only allowing 3 cartridges in, all they did was bolted a piece of machine stell into the chamber, to only allow 3 to be loaded, I will let you work out how, you could return to putting 6/7 cartridges back in.
Also a pump action serves no purpose, if you can't hit a Wabbit with two then give up.
Does anyone ever shoot just one wabbit? They're hardly solitary creatures...
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They are cwazy too, so my mate Elmer tells me ::)
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Not having used a Shotgun for many years, but I do remember when the law changed regarding pump action shotguns, and only allowing 3 cartridges in, all they did was bolted a piece of machine stell into the chamber, to only allow 3 to be loaded, I will let you work out how, you could return to putting 6/7 cartridges back in.
Also a pump action serves no purpose, if you can't hit a Wabbit with two then give up.
Does anyone ever shoot just one wabbit? They're hardly solitary creatures...
A shot gun give you a fair chance of getting a handful at once.
A pump action shotgun makes the process a bit more efficient.
Rabbits are essentially free food. We should eat more.
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Bumped into a friend of mine in town this morning who I haven't seen for some time , he has 42 deactivated antique guns + several up to date firearms , has had the Police round insisting that the room he stores them in needs further security ie bars on the window + a steel door because of the risk of the deactivated firearms being stolen and made fit for purpose , they are pretty strict in this county.
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Old thread I know - sorry for reviving it.
Just browsing through social media and saw a post for this.
A double barrel pistol
DX-12 Punisher
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=DX-12+Punisher&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj5yqWVp8f0AhUPiFwKHT02BmwQ_AUoA3oECAEQBQ&biw=1323&bih=616&dpr=1.94
My question is why would any one want to break thier wrists firing it & secondly would you actually hit anything you were trying to hit once the trigger is pulled. :-\