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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: Rangie on 08 November 2021, 17:27:53
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Wifey fancies a soft top motor don't ask me why ! She found a 2001 MGF one owner from new with 7,900 miles at a classic car specialist in Peterborough , wanted to go & view it this afternoon , I stuck to my guns definitely out of the question if it had been the Honda S2000 they also have I may have been tempted.
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Thought she wanted a cute little Toyota?
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S2000 is a very quick car, 0-60 in just over 6 seconds. Are you sure? ;D
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Thought she wanted a cute little Toyota?
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That's still on the cards when the Subaru goes, the MG was as well as, the I think she is trying to recapture her youth..😄
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You want the Honda for yourself, don't you? ;D
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S2000 is a very quick car, 0-60 in just over 6 seconds. Are you sure? ;D
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I've always fancied one of them but she didn't like the colour !(yellow) but in all honesty I don't think I'd fit in one.
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S2000 is a very quick car, 0-60 in just over 6 seconds. Are you sure? ;D
And just as twitchy as the MGF. Or a Porsche.
A good MGF is an excellent choice for a sportscar. Especially if you find an MX5 a bit cramped :y
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Didn't Lord Opti buy a 2 seater soft top of some description a while back for the long suffering Mrs Opti? ??? :-\
I don't think it lasted long and he must have had a guilty conscience to have bought it in the first place! ;D
Anything you want to tell us Mick? ??? :D
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S2000 is a very quick car, 0-60 in just over 6 seconds. Are you sure? ;D
And just as twitchy as the MGF. Or a Porsche.
A good MGF is an excellent choice for a sportscar. Especially if you find an MX5 a bit cramped :y
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A few years back a colleague had an MGF he had so many problems with it he almost went insane ! That's what made me say no to her.
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Didn't Lord Opti buy a 2 seater soft top of some description a while back for the long suffering Mrs Opti? ??? :-\
I don't think it lasted long and he must have had a guilty conscience to have bought it in the first place! ;D
Anything you want to tell us Mick? ??? :D
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Not guilty of any misdoings 😄 We've had 3 sometimes 4 vehicles in the past & now we do hardly any mileage can't see the point really.
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S2000 is a very quick car, 0-60 in just over 6 seconds. Are you sure? ;D
And just as twitchy as the MGF. Or a Porsche.
A good MGF is an excellent choice for a sportscar. Especially if you find an MX5 a bit cramped :y
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A few years back a colleague had an MGF he had so many problems with it he almost went insane ! That's what made me say no to her.
Everyone will tell you that the K series eats head gaskets, but I think that wasn't really true. Not on the ones I owned, anyway.
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That boils, no pun intended, down to the lack of coolant capacity... The Omega can afford to lose a few litres before it cooks. The K series barely holds a gallon, so even a minor leak, if unnoticed doesn't take very long to kill it. At speed, once the gauge rises and the light comes on, it's pretty much done. :-\
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S2000 is a very quick car, 0-60 in just over 6 seconds. Are you sure? ;D
And just as twitchy as the MGF. Or a Porsche.
A good MGF is an excellent choice for a sportscar. Especially if you find an MX5 a bit cramped :y
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A few years back a colleague had an MGF he had so many problems with it he almost went insane ! That's what made me say no to her.
Everyone will tell you that the K series eats head gaskets, but I think that wasn't really true. Not on the ones I owned, anyway.
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That's the first thing that went through my mind, but I know there is a conversion kit to avoid this, but really don't want the hassle.
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Wifey fancies a soft top motor don't ask me why ! She found a 2001 MGF one owner from new with 7,900 miles at a classic car specialist in Peterborough , wanted to go & view it this afternoon , I stuck to my guns definitely out of the question if it had been the Honda S2000 they also have I may have been tempted.
Daughter bought one new, and at about 20k and 4 years it had all sorts of issues with the coolant system. Having spent hours repairing it, I wouldn’t touch one.
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It seems the consensus is: why bother with it if you don't have to?
As you were, Mick, S2000 it is ;D
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It seems the consensus is: why bother with it if you don't have to?
As you were, Mick, S2000 it is ;D
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I suppose we could have it wrapped in a nice red colour..
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A few years back a colleague had an MGF he had so many problems with it he almost went insane ! That's what made me say no to her.
Everyone will tell you that the K series eats head gaskets, but I think that wasn't really true. Not on the ones I owned, anyway.
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That's the first thing that went through my mind, but I know there is a conversion kit to avoid this, but really don't want the hassle.
Conversion Kit? There's no need, as long you do the job properly: use a good quality gasket(either of the commonly suggested types will do), skim the head, and most importantly check the liner heights and shim them as necessary. None of that should be difficult for a competent mechanic.
Biggest killer of MGFs is now rot in the sills and rear subframe mounts.
As for problems to drive you insane, buy a Boxster. Although there's a really good chance of an unplanned off road excursion with one of those.
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It seems the consensus is: why bother with it if you don't have to?
As you were, Mick, S2000 it is ;D
The S2000 revs to 9000 RPM and has the power and torque curves of a peaky bike engine.
It can really only be driven with a heavy right foot. It can't be stroked along at low revs in a high gear because it has SFA in the way of low down torque.
Great fun for the young, and the young at heart. :y
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.......much like the RX8 that I very kindly bought for Mrs Opti.
Very little torque and what little there was didn't arrive until about 8000 RPM.
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A few years back a colleague had an MGF he had so many problems with it he almost went insane ! That's what made me say no to her.
Everyone will tell you that the K series eats head gaskets, but I think that wasn't really true. Not on the ones I owned, anyway.
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That's the first thing that went through my mind, but I know there is a conversion kit to avoid this, but really don't want the hassle.
Conversion Kit? There's no need, as long you do the job properly: use a good quality gasket(either of the commonly suggested types will do), skim the head, and most importantly check the liner heights and shim them as necessary. None of that should be difficult for a competent mechanic.
Biggest killer of MGFs is now rot in the sills and rear subframe mounts.
As for problems to drive you insane, buy a Boxster. Although there's a really good chance of an unplanned off road excursion with one of those.
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Competent mechanic me ! Definitely not ,check oil water tyres etc & keep vehicles maintained by trusted professionals, can't see any point in buying a 20 year old MG to throw money at it was only about 1500cc not my cup of tea at all.
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I had no idea what car a MGF was, so looked it up and found this on ebay.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/363364202400?campid=5338627314&mkevt=1&mkcid=1&toolid=10050&customid=Cj0KCQiAsqOMBhDFARIsAFBTN3cw8mtWlOZf9R8M1R4-uN0ZsQ4zCei8lsWf8wY-9qv8VTswbhEGq_0aAv-wEALw_wcB&mkrid=710-53481-19255-0&customid=Cj0KCQiAsqOMBhDFARIsAFBTN3cw8mtWlOZf9R8M1R4-uN0ZsQ4zCei8lsWf8wY-9qv8VTswbhEGq_0aAv-wEALw_wcB&gclid=Cj0KCQiAsqOMBhDFARIsAFBTN3cw8mtWlOZf9R8M1R4-uN0ZsQ4zCei8lsWf8wY-9qv8VTswbhEGq_0aAv-wEALw_wcB
All for breaking!! :o :o :o :o
That would definitely put me off from buying one! ::) ::) :D ;)
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Competent mechanic me ! Definitely not ,check oil water tyres etc & keep vehicles maintained by trusted professionals, can't see any point in buying a 20 year old MG to throw money at it was only about 1500cc not my cup of tea at all.
There are a tiny number of 1600cc cars, but all the rest were 1800s. Those range from 118hp to 160, which have performance figures that are very similar to the S2000 mentioned earlier. A VVC MGF is a quick car(0-60 in 6.9s and 137MPH), and its small size makes that performance usable anywhere. Not bad for a couple of Metro subframes and a Freelander engine. Being mid-engined, you do need to be careful in the rain....
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I had no idea what car a MGF was, so looked it up and found this on ebay.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/363364202400?campid=5338627314&mkevt=1&mkcid=1&toolid=10050&customid=Cj0KCQiAsqOMBhDFARIsAFBTN3cw8mtWlOZf9R8M1R4-uN0ZsQ4zCei8lsWf8wY-9qv8VTswbhEGq_0aAv-wEALw_wcB&mkrid=710-53481-19255-0&customid=Cj0KCQiAsqOMBhDFARIsAFBTN3cw8mtWlOZf9R8M1R4-uN0ZsQ4zCei8lsWf8wY-9qv8VTswbhEGq_0aAv-wEALw_wcB&gclid=Cj0KCQiAsqOMBhDFARIsAFBTN3cw8mtWlOZf9R8M1R4-uN0ZsQ4zCei8lsWf8wY-9qv8VTswbhEGq_0aAv-wEALw_wcB
All for breaking!! :o :o :o :o
That would definitely put me off from buying one! ::) ::) :D ;)
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They were asking £5995 for the one she was interested in, okay low mileage perhaps but not worth half of that in my opinion.
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I had no idea what car a MGF was, so looked it up and found this on ebay.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/363364202400?campid=5338627314&mkevt=1&mkcid=1&toolid=10050&customid=Cj0KCQiAsqOMBhDFARIsAFBTN3cw8mtWlOZf9R8M1R4-uN0ZsQ4zCei8lsWf8wY-9qv8VTswbhEGq_0aAv-wEALw_wcB&mkrid=710-53481-19255-0&customid=Cj0KCQiAsqOMBhDFARIsAFBTN3cw8mtWlOZf9R8M1R4-uN0ZsQ4zCei8lsWf8wY-9qv8VTswbhEGq_0aAv-wEALw_wcB&gclid=Cj0KCQiAsqOMBhDFARIsAFBTN3cw8mtWlOZf9R8M1R4-uN0ZsQ4zCei8lsWf8wY-9qv8VTswbhEGq_0aAv-wEALw_wcB (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/363364202400?campid=5338627314&mkevt=1&mkcid=1&toolid=10050&customid=Cj0KCQiAsqOMBhDFARIsAFBTN3cw8mtWlOZf9R8M1R4-uN0ZsQ4zCei8lsWf8wY-9qv8VTswbhEGq_0aAv-wEALw_wcB&mkrid=710-53481-19255-0&customid=Cj0KCQiAsqOMBhDFARIsAFBTN3cw8mtWlOZf9R8M1R4-uN0ZsQ4zCei8lsWf8wY-9qv8VTswbhEGq_0aAv-wEALw_wcB&gclid=Cj0KCQiAsqOMBhDFARIsAFBTN3cw8mtWlOZf9R8M1R4-uN0ZsQ4zCei8lsWf8wY-9qv8VTswbhEGq_0aAv-wEALw_wcB)
All for breaking!! :o :o :o :o
That would definitely put me off from buying one! ::) ::) :D ;)
Haven't you bought parts from people who make money breaking Omegas?
MGFs are currently in the dangerous stage where a poor one is worth nothing, an adequate one is worth slightly more as parts than it is as a car, and good ones are appreciating noticeably in value.
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.......much like the RX8 that I very kindly bought for Mrs Opti.
Very little torque and what little there was didn't arrive until about 8000 RPM.
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Nice looking cars but would have been better with a nice V6 lump.
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.......much like the RX8 that I very kindly bought for Mrs Opti.
Very little torque and what little there was didn't arrive until about 8000 RPM.
Shame she preferred the Corsa! ;D
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Competent mechanic me ! Definitely not ,check oil water tyres etc & keep vehicles maintained by trusted professionals, can't see any point in buying a 20 year old MG to throw money at it was only about 1500cc not my cup of tea at all.
There are a tiny number of 1600cc cars, but all the rest were 1800s. Those range from 118hp to 160, which have performance figures that are very similar to the S2000 mentioned earlier. A VVC MGF is a quick car(0-60 in 6.9s and 137MPH), and its small size makes that performance usable anywhere. Not bad for a couple of Metro subframes and a Freelander engine. Being mid-engined, you do need to be careful in the rain....
No not bad but it has no chance at all against the Honda
https://zeperfs.com/en/duel459-1235.htm
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I had no idea what car a MGF was, so looked it up and found this on ebay.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/363364202400?campid=5338627314&mkevt=1&mkcid=1&toolid=10050&customid=Cj0KCQiAsqOMBhDFARIsAFBTN3cw8mtWlOZf9R8M1R4-uN0ZsQ4zCei8lsWf8wY-9qv8VTswbhEGq_0aAv-wEALw_wcB&mkrid=710-53481-19255-0&customid=Cj0KCQiAsqOMBhDFARIsAFBTN3cw8mtWlOZf9R8M1R4-uN0ZsQ4zCei8lsWf8wY-9qv8VTswbhEGq_0aAv-wEALw_wcB&gclid=Cj0KCQiAsqOMBhDFARIsAFBTN3cw8mtWlOZf9R8M1R4-uN0ZsQ4zCei8lsWf8wY-9qv8VTswbhEGq_0aAv-wEALw_wcB (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/363364202400?campid=5338627314&mkevt=1&mkcid=1&toolid=10050&customid=Cj0KCQiAsqOMBhDFARIsAFBTN3cw8mtWlOZf9R8M1R4-uN0ZsQ4zCei8lsWf8wY-9qv8VTswbhEGq_0aAv-wEALw_wcB&mkrid=710-53481-19255-0&customid=Cj0KCQiAsqOMBhDFARIsAFBTN3cw8mtWlOZf9R8M1R4-uN0ZsQ4zCei8lsWf8wY-9qv8VTswbhEGq_0aAv-wEALw_wcB&gclid=Cj0KCQiAsqOMBhDFARIsAFBTN3cw8mtWlOZf9R8M1R4-uN0ZsQ4zCei8lsWf8wY-9qv8VTswbhEGq_0aAv-wEALw_wcB)
All for breaking!! :o :o :o :o
That would definitely put me off from buying one! ::) ::) :D ;)
Haven't you bought parts from people who make money breaking Omegas?
MGFs are currently in the dangerous stage where a poor one is worth nothing, an adequate one is worth slightly more as parts than it is as a car, and good ones are appreciating noticeably in value.
Maybe I haven’t noticed before, but I have never seen so many breakers being advertised for the same car ;)
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I had a girlfriend who had an MGF and it was always full of crap, so she'd get really pissed off when I insisted on putting the roof down on nice days. ::) ;D
I mean.... WTF's the point in having a soft top if you never put the roof down....... 'cause all your crap will fly out the back if you do! ;D
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I can honestly say I've never travelled in a two seater, roof or no roof.
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Mate of mine had a MK2 Consul convertible in the seventies & I hired a Mustang convertible when we were in the USA great car.
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Had a 1500 triumph spitfire for a week or two many years ago good fun at the time
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I can honestly say I've never travelled in a two seater, roof or no roof.
Most of us will one day, although we won't know about it as we'll be horizontal in the back. :D
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When I was seventeen I used to borrow my Dad's Marina pickup and tell the girls that I had a little two seater outside! ;)
Not many fell for it to be honest... :-\
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I can honestly say I've never travelled in a two seater, roof or no roof.
Most of us will one day, although we won't know about it as we'll be horizontal in the back. :D
Not me, I'm going in a skip. Not a paid for skip, you understand, my missus will drive around until she finds one with a bit of spare space in it. She'll cover me up so the driver can't say "Sorry, no dead bodies". ;D
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I can honestly say I've never travelled in a two seater, roof or no roof.
Most of us will one day, although we won't know about it as we'll be horizontal in the back. :D
Not me, I'm going in a skip. Not a paid for skip, you understand, my missus will drive around until she finds one with a bit of spare space in it. She'll cover me up so the driver can't say "Sorry, no dead bodies". ;D
;D ;D
Tell her not to cover you in scrap metal, as you'll be on show again the next day when it's all been nicked. :)
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Or you could donate yourself to science...... get your own back😂😂
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Or you could donate yourself to science...... get your own back😂😂
;D ;D
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Well KGF still have it so it looks like she takes notice of you :y
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Anyway, the answer's an MX 5. It's always an MX 5. :y
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.......much like the RX8 that I very kindly bought for Mrs Opti.
Very little torque and what little there was didn't arrive until about 8000 RPM.
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Nice looking cars but would have been better with a nice V6 lump.
Yes, the Wankel would have been better in the MX5
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I can honestly say I've never travelled in a two seater, roof or no roof.
You haven't missed much
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Anyway, the answer's an MX 5. It's always an MX 5. :y
It would be, if it had another 75 or so horses. ;)
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Anyway, the answer's an MX 5. It's always an MX 5. :y
It would be, if it had another 75 or so horses. ;)
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Had a Mazda 626 brand new in 2002 always looked after it very well , rusted terribly in the nine 9 years I owned it would never have another, our local car underbody rustproofing company
( Rustbusters) confirmed to me that they are the number 1 vehicle for rust problems I wouldn't touch any Mazda again.
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Anyway, the answer's an MX 5. It's always an MX 5. :y
It would be, if it had another 75 or so horses. ;)
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And here's me thinking about a Mazda 6 estate when the astra needs replacing.
Had a Mazda 626 brand new in 2002 always looked after it very well , rusted terribly in the nine 9 years I owned it would never have another, our local car underbody rustproofing company
( Rustbusters) confirmed to me that they are the number 1 vehicle for rust problems I wouldn't touch any Mazda again.
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Don't touch a Mazda Steve, it's a shame really because mechanically mine was totally reliable + the 2 litre diesel never returned less than 46mpg & 61mpg on a long run, traded it in for the 2.6 Omega which was an excellent choice.
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Mazda = pull up a chair and watch it rust. ::)
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Mazda = pull up a chair and watch it rust. ::)
The only cars I know that are immune to rust are the Alfasud and Lancia Beta.
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I got rid of the Mazda in 2010/2011 as I could see how the car was deteriorating just looked at its MOT history FV51FUE & it certainly went downhill after that.
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There are quite a few 8-10 year old 3's and 6's about with no signs of rust, and no mention of corrosion on MOT's. Tony Terbs has a 6, I believe, and was very happy with it last I heard.
But no matter, it's just one of the many I would consider.
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Think Mazda fixed the rust problems around 2012 to be fair. The ones with the Gary boys rear light cluster of choice, mid noughties, were terrible for rust. I had a late 1980s hatch and was impressed how well screwed together it was.
Add, these are the 626 i'm talking about.
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On another note newer Mazda 6/3Mps turbocharged versions are certainly not slow.
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Four-wheel drive too iirc :-\
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Indeed 👍
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Well KGF still have it so it looks like she takes notice of you :y
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Got to admit that KGF appear to have some very nice cars.
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Well KGF still have it so it looks like she takes notice of you :y
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Got to admit that KGF appear to have some very nice cars.
They do. Although that MG would have been £3k anywhere else.
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Well KGF still have it so it looks like she takes notice of you :y
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Got to admit that KGF appear to have some very nice cars.
They do. Although that MG would have been £3k anywhere else.
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My sentiments entirely , I would happily have paid 3K for a "toy" but 5K + was out of the question.
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Anyway, the answer's an MX 5. It's always an MX 5. :y
It would be, if it had another 75 or so horses. ;)
Your wish and all that....
https://www.rocketeercars.com/ (https://www.rocketeercars.com/)
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Anyway, the answer's an MX 5. It's always an MX 5. :y
It would be, if it had another 75 or so horses. ;)
Your wish and all that....
https://www.rocketeercars.com/ (https://www.rocketeercars.com/)
Or an Omega V6 for a fraction of the price and work. Smaller, and easier to fit than a Jag
Ian's MGB engine was originally bought from someone who was going to do just that until he realised just how rotten his MX5 was. Which shouldn't have been a surprise, because it was an MX5. Shaped object 8)
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The thing with the MX-5 is that it's got a chassis that just makes you want to thrash the living daylights out of it and at the sort of power levels they have as standard (160 odd BHP from the 2.0 NC we have) you can do that all day long without it ever getting seriously out of shape or losing your licence. There'll always be long straight bits of road where you wish for a bit more grunt, but on the twisty bits where it counts it's more satisfying to have to stir the stick a bit to keep it going rather than have a big V6 where you just leave it in 4th and use the torque.
I think if I were going to upgrade one, I'd go forced induction. In fact, the ecoboost I've got in the Jag started off as the Mazda L series anyway, so I wouldn't mind betting it would drop straight in and give you 240 BHP. Why you'd mess about with a V6 I don't know.
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The thing with the MX-5 is that it's got a chassis that just makes you want to thrash the living daylights out of it and at the sort of power levels they have as standard (160 odd BHP from the 2.0 NC we have) you can do that all day long without it ever getting seriously out of shape or losing your licence. There'll always be long straight bits of road where you wish for a bit more grunt, but on the twisty bits where it counts it's more satisfying to have to stir the stick a bit to keep it going rather than have a big V6 where you just leave it in 4th and use the torque.
Adding more lots more power to a chassis that encourages its use is no longer something that appeals to me. I also dislike the size of modern tyres, which removes most of the progressive and predictable nature that older cars had. Now you have lots of grip until suddenly it all disappears and you're going fast enough to need more road than is available just to attempt to gather it back up.
I realised several years ago that I've never found really fast cars fun, it's driving them hard that I enjoy not the speed. My tweaked 2.9 Capri was so effortless that I regularly missed my turning because giving it 2000rpm in all of the gears - really babying it - meant I was doing about 80mph in a 30 limit. A 2.0l will do that, but you have to want to. They're better balanced too, big roundabouts on dual carriageways can be taken without slowing down, but all four tyres just on the limit of losing grip whilst howling musically :y
I've tried all of the MGFs that various friends have owned, and the best ones are the original 120hp solid cam cars.
Similarly, I'm too much of a wimp for motorbikes and I've seen the results of inattention too many times.
Given a lottery win, I would be ordering a Caterham 170 for the same reasons - it's fast enough without being utterly terrifying or even particularly illegal.
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The thing with the MX-5 is that it's got a chassis that just makes you want to thrash the living daylights out of it and at the sort of power levels they have as standard (160 odd BHP from the 2.0 NC we have) you can do that all day long without it ever getting seriously out of shape or losing your licence. There'll always be long straight bits of road where you wish for a bit more grunt, but on the twisty bits where it counts it's more satisfying to have to stir the stick a bit to keep it going rather than have a big V6 where you just leave it in 4th and use the torque.
Adding more lots more power to a chassis that encourages its use is no longer something that appeals to me. I also dislike the size of modern tyres, which removes most of the progressive and predictable nature that older cars had. Now you have lots of grip until suddenly it all disappears and you're going fast enough to need more road than is available just to attempt to gather it back up.
I realised several years ago that I've never found really fast cars fun, it's driving them hard that I enjoy not the speed. My tweaked 2.9 Capri was so effortless that I regularly missed my turning because giving it 2000rpm in all of the gears - really babying it - meant I was doing about 80mph in a 30 limit. A 2.0l will do that, but you have to want to. They're better balanced too, big roundabouts on dual carriageways can be taken without slowing down, but all four tyres just on the limit of losing grip whilst howling musically :y
I've tried all of the MGFs that various friends have owned, and the best ones are the original 120hp solid cam cars.
Similarly, I'm too much of a wimp for motorbikes and I've seen the results of inattention too many times.
Given a lottery win, I would be ordering a Caterham 170 for the same reasons - it's fast enough without being utterly terrifying or even particularly illegal.
Should I be tempted into this minimalist type of motoring, I think I would prefer the Ariel Atom.
300 BHP from a 2 litre Honda Civic lump is probably 'adequate' for 650KG.
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Ive driven my mates 685 bhp E8, never thought I would say it but you just don’t need that much😵💫😵💫 it’s too tempting and you’re looking over your shoulder/ in the mirror.. worrying all the time going from 60 to 160 is blisteringly fast and for just that few seconds it could easily land you in jail, and I say this owning quite a quick car myself 😵💫
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Ive driven my mates 685 bhp E8, never thought I would say it but you just don’t need that much😵💫😵💫 it’s too tempting and you’re looking over your shoulder/ in the mirror.. worrying all the time going from 60 to 160 is blisteringly fast and for just that few seconds it could easily land you in jail, and I say this owning quite a quick car myself 😵💫
What is it, Rae.
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Mitsubishi Evo 8 at a guess ::)
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No it’s an Evo2 with E9 internals,hybrid turbo, bigger injectors up rated pump moates ostrich ecu blah blah blah running around 420 bhp/ 410 lbsft at 1150kg 0/60 mph 3.5 at Marham. Steve loves it😂👀
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No it’s an Evo2 with E9 internals,hybrid turbo, bigger injectors up rated pump moates ostrich ecu blah blah blah running around 420 bhp/ 410 lbsft at 1150kg 0/60 mph 3.5 at Marham. Steve loves it😂👀
Well you should have said.
We're not mind readers you know.... :D ;)
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Ha ha ;D the 685bhp is the Evo8 as said, but it really is too much for the road (I must be getting old)🙁🤣