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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: addy on 18 November 2021, 17:30:51
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I was wandering if anyone could help me? I am trying to find the code for the metal pipe, that goes across the front of the radiators, for the steering system. Mine has decided to leak. Also the ones on each side of it. I think I have found the one but not sure. My logic is that if the one I can see is gone, the others might be going. I have put some pictures to show the one I am looking for. The pictures are from drivers side.
(https://i.postimg.cc/jSxTHShT/DSC-1062.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/13vQJ1Wq/DSC-1064.jpg)
Thanks in advance for any help.
Addy
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That's the oil cooler for the power steering.
You can probably get away with bypassing/shortening the loop with suitable pressure hose secured each side with suitable jubilee clips :y
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That's the oil cooler for the power steering.
You can probably get away with bypassing/shortening the loop with suitable pressure hose secured each side with suitable jubilee clips :y
No, you can definitely repair it that way.
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That's the oil cooler for the power steering.
You can probably get away with bypassing/shortening the loop with suitable pressure hose secured each side with suitable jubilee clips :y
No, you can definitely repair it that way.
Well that's that then :y
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Thanks for the quick replies, you have both been very helpfull. I thought that the metal pipe, would be under high pressure, because of the compression joint and it being metal, that making a repair as suggested would of blown the joints apart? If I was to cut a bit up each side of the compression joint, then put in a piece of piping in with decent jubilee clips, not off ebay.
What sort of pressure am I looking for in the system, so I can get a matching or slightly higher pipe rating?
Thanks again
Addy
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Thanks for the quick replies, you have both been very helpfull. I thought that the metal pipe, would be under high pressure, because of the compression joint and it being metal, that making a repair as suggested would of blown the joints apart? If I was to cut a bit up each side of the compression joint, then put in a piece of piping in with decent jubilee clips, not off ebay.
What sort of pressure am I looking for in the system, so I can get a matching or slightly higher pipe rating?
Thanks again
Addy
It's basically the return pipe from the PS box to the reservoir. They make it out of metal and route it via the front radiator area so as to help cool the fluid. It's not under any significant pressure. If it were and you took the cap off the PS reservoir the fluid would squirt out all over the shop.
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Thanks for the reply. So if I used the rubber hose piece, off a brake flexi hose to join the two parts and jubilee clips , would it work as long a internal diameter is same as outside diameter of metal pipes?
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Yup :y
Have you done it yet?
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Hi DG
Not yet. Wife decided she wants to go see her family, in Scotland Monday before they go into lockdown and weather changes. So she said her Omega needs a oil change and check over, before she goes. Only free day to do it was tonight. You just have to love their logic. ;D
Will get it sorted now, had advice from the members on here.
Addy
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Thanks for the reply. So if I used the rubber hose piece, off a brake flexi hose to join the two parts and jubilee clips , would it work as long a internal diameter is same as outside diameter of metal pipes?
A brake hose has a really small internal diameter, and is unlikely to fit.
Measure the pipe, and find a hydraulics specialist, truck parts supplier or old-school motor factor and buy a length of the correct bore oil resistant hose with a couple of appropriately sized good quality hose clamps. I would expect 0.5m of hose and some clamps to be much less than a fiver.
Ensure that you cut enough out of the pipe to give clean pieces of pipe that fit inside the hose.
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Thanks for all the help everyone has given. Could anyone tell me the recommended fluid, for the steering fluid? Also can I just bleed it by turning the steering with the engine full left and right a couple of times?
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Dex3 atf :y
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Yes, a few turns lock to lock should bleed the system. :y
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Yes, a few turns lock to lock should bleed the system. :y
Slowly. With the cap off ;)
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Thanks for all the help everyone has given. Could anyone tell me the recommended fluid, for the steering fluid? Also can I just bleed it by turning the steering with the engine full left and right a couple of times?
Remind me on, I might have some new botles of fluid in the shed :y
I might not, of course... But Im emptying it tomorrow :D
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Dex3 atf :y
is it not DEX 2? :-\
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Power steering is Dexron iii.
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Power steering is Dexron iii.
Same as the slushbox ;)
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Thanks for all the help. I bought some proper hydraulic hose and some decent jubilee clips. I cut out the old compression fitting, that you can see in the picture. Cleaned up the metal pipe then fitted a piece of the hydraulic hose and tightened the jubilee clips, until they wouldn't tight no more but the fluid was still sprayed out. So in the end bought a 10mm water compression fitting from screwfix and tried that. It seems to be working, just got loads of air in the system so go to get it out. I was looking how the pipe routes, it looks like the radiators have to come out, to allow the complete pipe to come out from both sides. Or is can it be removed without removing the radiators, so I can get a new one made at a hydraulic place?
Thanks again for the help.
Addy
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It only runs on the right of the radiator.
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When I traced the metal one in the picture, the passenger hand side goes to the steering pump. The drivers side goes over the chassis rail and looks like it goes to the steering box. I thought if I undid both ends, I could of manouvered it out, without removing radiators and other stuff around them.
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V6 might be different then :-\ I thought it looped across the bottom of the condenser/front lower cross member...
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There is another pipe under the metal one that goes from one side to the other. It also has hydraulic rubber hose and fittings that go to it. I thought that I had got one, but it was off a 2.2 that is different again. I did try the rubber hydraulic hose and proper clamps, but it blew the fluid out, so as said fitted a compression fitting which seems to work, so is the metal one a high pressure line?
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I think there is confusion here :-\
autobox cooler is a loop ,
PAS is 2 pipes ,high and low pressure
https://vauxhall.7zap.com/en/car/v94/l/0/18-1/ (https://vauxhall.7zap.com/en/car/v94/l/0/18-1/)
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The metal pipe is the one that was leaking at the joint, on the left side as in the photo. The fluid definately came out under alot of pressure. It comes from the front of the steering pump, then across the front of the car then joined to the pipe coming from the left side, with what looked like a compression fitting.
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(https://www.emgauge70s.co.uk/omega_cd2018-02.jpg)
Any help? Nothing in the cooler group needs to be removed. (V6).
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Thanks Tick Tock
So just have to remove bumper. I see on your picture that the pipes are different again to the 2.6. In that there is no connector on the top pipe, as mine has where the pipe from the steering box, comes down to meet the one going across the front. Your picture looks like the engine is a 2.5? I wonder if at a push the 2.5 one would fit from the steering pump to the steering box?
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IIRC the power steering pump is slightly different between early and late V6s :-\
so that might make the connections wrong perhaps .I don't know
just a cautionary note
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Thanks Dave the Builder for the info.
Looks like will be getting one made up hopefully. At least I was able to move the car in the drive, as got builders in the next few days.