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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Andy B on 22 November 2021, 19:23:50
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-59372522 :-X :-X :-X
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Last time I watched it, it was presented by Mick Fleetwood and Sam Fox.
I believe it has got much much worse since then. ;D
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Last time I watched it, it was presented by Mick Fleetwood and Sam Fox.
I believe it has got much much worse since then. ;D
;D ;D
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Said it so many times before The world's gone mad.
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Sam Smith, who is non-binary, missed out on a nomination at this year's awards.
Their album, Love Goes, reached number two in the UK chart, but they felt unable to enter the gender-based categories.
Makes me fûckin sick.
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Sam Smith, who is non-binary, missed out on a nomination at this year's awards.
Their album, Love Goes, reached number two in the UK chart, but they felt unable to enter the gender-based categories.
Makes me fûckin sick.
Ah bless them! ;D
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We’re doomed again :(
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We’re doomed again :(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7NlFWh7Sz8
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Sorry Andy, thought that you'd said Sh!t Awards. :-[
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Sorry Andy, thought that you'd said Sh!t Awards. :-[
probably the same thing ... ;)
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Thankfully I never watch any of that crap💩
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When they announce the winners on the news, I don't even know who they are.
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Thankfully I never watch any of that crap💩
neither do I ... I heard of it on the news.
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I believe you🤭😂🤣
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I believe you🤭😂🤣
;D ;D ;D ;D
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Sam Smith, who is non-binary, missed out on a nomination at this year's awards.
Their album, Love Goes, reached number two in the UK chart, but they felt unable to enter the gender-based categories.
Makes me fûckin sick.
This is why terms such as 'ladies and gentleman, boys and girls' are being erased.
You don't want Sam to feel 'excluded' ::)
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Sam is now 'included' at BA.
The other 99.9% who were quite happy with 'ladies and gentlemen' can go f*uck themselves. ::)
https://inews.co.uk/news/british-airways-drops-ladies-and-gentlemen-in-announcements-in-favour-of-gender-neutral-terms-1241588 (https://inews.co.uk/news/british-airways-drops-ladies-and-gentlemen-in-announcements-in-favour-of-gender-neutral-terms-1241588)
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Sam is now 'included' at BA.
The other 99.9% who were quite happy with 'ladies and gentlemen' can go f*uck themselves. ::)
https://inews.co.uk/news/british-airways-drops-ladies-and-gentlemen-in-announcements-in-favour-of-gender-neutral-terms-1241588 (https://inews.co.uk/news/british-airways-drops-ladies-and-gentlemen-in-announcements-in-favour-of-gender-neutral-terms-1241588)
I'm sure they are very happy that they are not be being discriminated against for their view of themselves. :)
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What a fu…d up world we are creating🙁
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Sam Smith, who is non-binary, missed out on a nomination at this year's awards.
Their album, Love Goes, reached number two in the UK chart, but they felt unable to enter the gender-based categories.
Makes me fûckin sick.
This is why terms such as 'ladies and gentleman, boys and girls' are being erased.
You don't want Sam to feel 'excluded' ::)
Executed maybe.
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And electrocuted. Fu(in idiot.
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Now now boys, they are entitled to regard themselves however they wish. :)
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Now now boys, they are entitled to regard themselves however they wish. :)
But why change language that 99.9% are happy with just so the other 0.1% feel included. :D
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I seem to recall a station announcer got boll*ocked when he said " Good morning ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls".
He won't make that mistake again. :-X
Apparently there was a non-binary person on the train who felt left out.....and a complaint was made. :-X
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Now now boys, they are entitled to regard themselves however they wish. :)
But why change language that 99.9% are happy with just so the other 0.1% feel included. :D
Well you've gotta be inclusive these days innit? :)
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Now now boys, they are entitled to regard themselves however they wish. :)
But why change language that 99.9% are happy with just so the other 0.1% feel included. :D
Well you've gotta be inclusive these days innit? :)
......and diverse.
You can't say inclusive without saying diverse. It's the law. :)
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Now now boys, they are entitled to regard themselves however they wish. :)
But why change language that 99.9% are happy with just so the other 0.1% feel included. :D
Well you've gotta be inclusive these days innit? :)
Personally, I haven't got to be anything. Mother, father, lady, gentleman, son, daughter.........is the only language I'll ever use. If anyone tries to correct me, I'll tell them how offended and marginalised I feel, and complain to the relevant authority.
That will be after I've told them to fûck off :)
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Now now boys, they are entitled to regard themselves however they wish. :)
But why change language that 99.9% are happy with just so the other 0.1% feel included. :D
Well you've gotta be inclusive these days innit? :)
......and diverse.
You can't say inclusive without saying diverse. It's the law. :)
Inclusive - not excluding any of the parties or groups involved in something. That makes diversity a necessary part of it.
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Therefore by its own volition indiversity 👓 must be a part of it too :D
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All encompassing rather than lots of differences...
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Now now boys, they are entitled to regard themselves however they wish. :)
But why change language that 99.9% are happy with just so the other 0.1% feel included. :D
Well you've gotta be inclusive these days innit? :)
......and diverse.
You can't say inclusive without saying diverse. It's the law. :)
Inclusive - not excluding any of the parties or groups involved in something. That makes diversity a necessary part of it.
Many people don't feel 'included' without reference to a polite " Good morning ladies and gentlemen this is your captain speaking"......
Still, so long as Sam is happy. :)
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Now now boys, they are entitled to regard themselves however they wish. :)
But why change language that 99.9% are happy with just so the other 0.1% feel included. :D
Well you've gotta be inclusive these days innit? :)
......and diverse.
You can't say inclusive without saying diverse. It's the law. :)
Inclusive - not excluding any of the parties or groups involved in something. That makes diversity a necessary part of it.
Many people don't feel 'included' without reference to a polite " Good morning ladies and gentlemen this is your captain speaking"......
Still, so long as Sam is happy. :)
I'm sure they is. :y
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Now now boys, they are entitled to regard themselves however they wish. :)
But why change language that 99.9% are happy with just so the other 0.1% feel included. :D
Well you've gotta be inclusive these days innit? :)
......and diverse.
You can't say inclusive without saying diverse. It's the law. :)
Inclusive - not excluding any of the parties or groups involved in something. That makes diversity a necessary part of it.
In what way is the mention of ladies....gentlemen...boys......girls not inclusive?.
It covers both sexes, and both genders, from the young through to the old. It is utterly inclusive.
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Now now boys, they are entitled to regard themselves however they wish. :)
But why change language that 99.9% are happy with just so the other 0.1% feel included. :D
Well you've gotta be inclusive these days innit? :)
......and diverse.
You can't say inclusive without saying diverse. It's the law. :)
Inclusive - not excluding any of the parties or groups involved in something. That makes diversity a necessary part of it.
Many people don't feel 'included' without reference to a polite " Good morning ladies and gentlemen this is your captain speaking"......
Still, so long as Sam is happy. :)
I'm sure they is. :y
Don't start...... ;D
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Now now boys, they are entitled to regard themselves however they wish. :)
But why change language that 99.9% are happy with just so the other 0.1% feel included. :D
Well you've gotta be inclusive these days innit? :)
......and diverse.
You can't say inclusive without saying diverse. It's the law. :)
Inclusive - not excluding any of the parties or groups involved in something. That makes diversity a necessary part of it.
Many people don't feel 'included' without reference to a polite " Good morning ladies and gentlemen this is your captain speaking"......
Still, so long as Sam is happy. :)
I'm sure they is. :y
Don't start...... ;D
They are...... ;D
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Therefore by its own volition indiversity 👓 must be a part of it too :D
No, I still can't follow your logic.
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Now now boys, they are entitled to regard themselves however they wish. :)
But why change language that 99.9% are happy with just so the other 0.1% feel included. :D
Well you've gotta be inclusive these days innit? :)
......and diverse.
You can't say inclusive without saying diverse. It's the law. :)
Inclusive - not excluding any of the parties or groups involved in something. That makes diversity a necessary part of it.
Many people don't feel 'included' without reference to a polite " Good morning ladies and gentlemen this is your captain speaking"......
Still, so long as Sam is happy. :)
I'm sure they is. :y
Don't start...... ;D
They are...... ;D
See now this is where things get complicated. ::)
So we say they/them ie in the plural for people like poor confused Sam because they's not sure what they are so it covers all the bases, but surely you have to refer to them (ie Sam) in the singular at some point to emphasise that we are talking about one person. Hence They is... :)
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Now now boys, they are entitled to regard themselves however they wish. :)
But why change language that 99.9% are happy with just so the other 0.1% feel included. :D
Well you've gotta be inclusive these days innit? :)
......and diverse.
You can't say inclusive without saying diverse. It's the law. :)
Inclusive - not excluding any of the parties or groups involved in something. That makes diversity a necessary part of it.
Many people don't feel 'included' without reference to a polite " Good morning ladies and gentlemen this is your captain speaking"......
Still, so long as Sam is happy. :)
I'm sure they is. :y
Don't start...... ;D
They are...... ;D
See now this is where things get complicated. ::)
So we say they/them ie in the plural for people like poor confused Sam because they's not sure what they are so it covers all the bases, but surely you have to refer to them (ie Sam) in the singular at some point to emphasise that we are talking about one person. Hence They is... :)
Fûck off ;D
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See now this is where things get complicated. ::)
So we say they/them ie in the plural for people like poor confused Sam because they's not sure what they are so it covers all the bases, but surely you have to refer to them (ie Sam) in the singular at some point to emphasise that we are talking about one person. Hence They is... :)
How is it complicated?
They are is correct grammar when they refers to a group.
They is will become ought to already be accepted as correct when they refers to an unspecified/indeterminate gender/race/whatever person. There is nothing new about using they for this; Shakespeare and Chaucer did it.
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Does this mean that Christmas presents are also off the list? After all having Father Christmas is hardly inclusive is it and no Father Christmas surely means no prezzies delivered :D :D ;D
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See now this is where things get complicated. ::)
So we say they/them ie in the plural for people like poor confused Sam because they's not sure what they are so it covers all the bases, but surely you have to refer to them (ie Sam) in the singular at some point to emphasise that we are talking about one person. Hence They is... :)
How is it complicated?
They are is correct grammar when they refers to a group.
They is will become ought to already be accepted as correct when they refers to an unspecified/indeterminate gender/race/whatever person. There is nothing new about using they for this; Shakespeare and Chaucer did it.
Personal pronouns are primarily adored by the self-indulgent middle class. People who are generally well off with a comfortable lifestyle and no real battles to fight tend to gravitate toward this type of folly. It makes then feel superior.
The 8 year old kid collecting plastic Coke bottles from the tip for 10 hours a day in some African shithole has no time or interest in pronouns. He needs to eat to survive. He doesn't have time to question his gender.
The working class in this country are 'bemused' by this ridiculous trend and will never go along with it. Best left for woke conversation at north London dinner parties in my view.
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See now this is where things get complicated. ::)
So we say they/them ie in the plural for people like poor confused Sam because they's not sure what they are so it covers all the bases, but surely you have to refer to them (ie Sam) in the singular at some point to emphasise that we are talking about one person. Hence They is... :)
How is it complicated?
They are is correct grammar when they refers to a group.
They is will become ought to already be accepted as correct when they refers to an unspecified/indeterminate gender/race/whatever person. There is nothing new about using they for this; Shakespeare and Chaucer did it.
Two genders and two sexes, Nick. We have known this for literally a hundred thousand years. It is settled science and settled biology.
To argue otherwise you may as well argue that the Earth is really flat..... :)
For 99.9% of the world sex and gender will match.
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Does this mean that Christmas presents are also off the list? After all having Father Christmas is hardly inclusive is it and no Father Christmas surely means no prezzies delivered :D :D ;D
Santa will need to be black.....despite coming from a land of snow and ice. :)
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Does this mean that Christmas presents are also off the list? After all having Father Christmas is hardly inclusive is it and no Father Christmas surely means no prezzies delivered :D :D ;D
Santa Claudia.......easy. :)
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Two genders and two sexes, Nick. We have known this for literally a hundred thousand years. It is settled science and settled biology.
To argue otherwise you may as well argue that the Earth is really flat..... :)
For 99.9% of the world sex and gender will match.
That's utter 'dangle berries'! Once again, gender and sex are grammatical and biological terms respectively.
English is unusual in that we only apply genders to things that have a sex - other languages can use male and female pronouns with the same word to refer to entirely different objects. Saying that a table is masculine, or a girl is neuter is ridiculous to us but correct in German. That same table is feminine in French....
Most of the time a person's sex is irrelevant, like a teacher/student/criminal/driver/etc, and they should be neuter permanently, even if you know that the 150kg tattooed behemoth who stole your dinner set is a woman. That's the way we're headed, and it isn't a bad thing.
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Two genders and two sexes, Nick. We have known this for literally a hundred thousand years. It is settled science and settled biology.
To argue otherwise you may as well argue that the Earth is really flat..... :)
For 99.9% of the world sex and gender will match.
That's utter 'dangle berries'! Once again, gender and sex are grammatical and biological terms respectively.
English is unusual in that we only apply genders to things that have a sex - other languages can use male and female pronouns with the same word to refer to entirely different objects. Saying that a table is masculine, or a girl is neuter is ridiculous to us but correct in German. That same table is feminine in French....
Most of the time a person's sex is irrelevant, like a teacher/student/criminal/driver/etc, and they should be neuter permanently, even if you know that the 150kg tattooed behemoth who stole your dinner set is a woman. That's the way we're headed, and it isn't a bad thing.
That doesn't fit with a news report I saw last week asking bosses to be more sympathetic to.......err......people? who were menstruating.
Unless, of course, a young chap could ask for a day off due to heavy periods and dare his boss to challenge him.
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Two genders and two sexes, Nick. We have known this for literally a hundred thousand years. It is settled science and settled biology.
To argue otherwise you may as well argue that the Earth is really flat..... :)
For 99.9% of the world sex and gender will match.
That's utter 'dangle berries'! Once again, gender and sex are grammatical and biological terms respectively.
English is unusual in that we only apply genders to things that have a sex - other languages can use male and female pronouns with the same word to refer to entirely different objects. Saying that a table is masculine, or a girl is neuter is ridiculous to us but correct in German. That same table is feminine in French....
Most of the time a person's sex is irrelevant, like a teacher/student/criminal/driver/etc, and they should be neuter permanently, even if you know that the 150kg tattooed behemoth who stole your dinner set is a woman. That's the way we're headed, and it isn't a bad thing.
That doesn't fit with a news report I saw last week asking bosses to be more sympathetic to.......err......people? who were menstruating.
Unless, of course, a young chap could ask for a day off due to heavy periods and dare his boss to challenge him.
That's an instance where the person's sex(not gender!) is not just relevant but necessary. It wouldn't be if they wanted the time off because they had broken their toes and couldn't walk.
It's a good illustration of why volunteering yourself as a victim, or being offended for somebody else who isn't, should not be encouraged. That's the real problem, not that a tiny minority of an already small group want their own pronoun.
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Well.....they'll get whatever pronoun I feel like giving them. :)
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Two genders and two sexes, Nick. We have known this for literally a hundred thousand years. It is settled science and settled biology.
To argue otherwise you may as well argue that the Earth is really flat..... :)
For 99.9% of the world sex and gender will match.
That's utter 'dangle berries'! Once again, gender and sex are grammatical and biological terms respectively.
English is unusual in that we only apply genders to things that have a sex - other languages can use male and female pronouns with the same word to refer to entirely different objects. Saying that a table is masculine, or a girl is neuter is ridiculous to us but correct in German. That same table is feminine in French....
Most of the time a person's sex is irrelevant, like a teacher/student/criminal/driver/etc, and they should be neuter permanently, even if you know that the 150kg tattooed behemoth who stole your dinner set is a woman. That's the way we're headed, and it isn't a bad thing.
That doesn't fit with a news report I saw last week asking bosses to be more sympathetic to.......err......people? who were menstruating.
Unless, of course, a young chap could ask for a day off due to heavy periods and dare his boss to challenge him.
Insulting to real women.
As is the ridiculous 'men can also give birth' or 'birthing people' so beloved by the democrats across the pond.
This type of delusion has always been around, but was only believed by people on the fringe of society, or people with ' emotional issues'
It becomes a problem problem is when it starts to filter into the real world with people like Starmer unable to define the word 'woman'.
WOMAN......Adult human female (with a cervix) ...... Not difficult really. :)
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Well.....they'll get whatever pronoun I feel like giving them. :)
That is fighting talk.
People who go down the pronoun route require your absolute obedience. ::)
https://youtu.be/r00xvXvGBtw (https://youtu.be/r00xvXvGBtw)
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Two genders and two sexes, Nick. We have known this for literally a hundred thousand years. It is settled science and settled biology.
To argue otherwise you may as well argue that the Earth is really flat..... :)
For 99.9% of the world sex and gender will match.
That's utter 'dangle berries'! Once again, gender and sex are grammatical and biological terms respectively.
English is unusual in that we only apply genders to things that have a sex - other languages can use male and female pronouns with the same word to refer to entirely different objects. Saying that a table is masculine, or a girl is neuter is ridiculous to us but correct in German. That same table is feminine in French....
Most of the time a person's sex is irrelevant, like a teacher/student/criminal/driver/etc, and they should be neuter permanently, even if you know that the 150kg tattooed behemoth who stole your dinner set is a woman. That's the way we're headed, and it isn't a bad thing.
That doesn't fit with a news report I saw last week asking bosses to be more sympathetic to.......err......people? who were menstruating.
Unless, of course, a young chap could ask for a day off due to heavy periods and dare his boss to challenge him.
Insulting to real women.
As is the ridiculous 'men can also give birth' or 'birthing people' so beloved by the democrats across the pond.
This type of delusion has always been around, but was only believed by people on the fringe of society, or people with ' emotional issues'
It becomes a problem problem is when it starts to filter into the real world with people like Starmer unable to define the word 'woman'.
WOMAN......Adult human female (with a cervix) ...... Not difficult really. :)
So this childish debate from schoolboys (excluding Nick W who is on the right track) in the playground still continues!!! ::) ::) ::) ::)
I am not going to repeat (I am so fed up with this ignorance!!) all that I have said on this subject, which numerous doctors, psychiatrists and specialist in the gender identity field now recognise as fact, but just ask:
1. What is a women who has unfortunately been born without a uterus, but has everything else, will never have periods, called in your book?
2. What is a woman who has had all her reproductive organs surgically removed called?
3. What is a woman, born as a girl outwardly, who has gender reassignment with ALL female reproductive organs removed to be called - she no longer has a cervix, or anything else, does therefore not have periods - a MAN? Well yes, in your book she cannot be a women so "he" must be male, which will delight that person no end and cause great celebration after years of torment going back to early childhood!! :D :D
4. Finally, how would you describe a person who is a hermaphrodite - intersex, with both male and female organs?
Now before you come up again with more childish, misinformed, ignorant, tosh, and insult to some very unfortunate people who did not choose to be born as they have been, KNOWING from early childhood their brain gender does not match their physical body, with society slagging them off as you are, just ask yourselves WHY this subject so troubles you in a World with currently far, far, bigger issues for you lot to worry about with: War, Famine, vast movements of people fleeing their undemocratic war torn nations, staggering increases in energy prices, children in this democratic country losing social support and welfare assistance etc, etc, oh, yes, and the Covid Pandemic that is still far from being over?!!
In light of that why, oh why, are you worried what any man or women wants to be called. It is NOT an insult to "real", everyday, women as you claim for a poor unfortunate soul who is trans or intersex, to want to be medically assessed and cleared for gender reassignment to become recognised as being female, or anyone who just wants to be known as the character they display whilst peacefully going about their day to day life! Why should that bother any of us?!
I certainly have far more important things to worry about than that!!! ::) ::) ::)
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1 Woman
2 Woman
3 :-X
4 hermaphrodite
I didn't want a Christmas card anyway Lizzie :D ;D
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1 Woman
2 Woman
3 :-X
4 hermaphrodite
I didn't want a Christmas card anyway Lizzie :D ;D
I am with Dave on this, and actually all the boxes are an affront to women who suffer with endometriosis (and the like) and desperately wanted to have children but couldn't and have subsequently had to endure a hysterectomy in their mid thirties. And by your own yardstick, I have direct personal experience of this.
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Two genders and two sexes, Nick. We have known this for literally a hundred thousand years. It is settled science and settled biology.
To argue otherwise you may as well argue that the Earth is really flat..... :)
For 99.9% of the world sex and gender will match.
That's utter 'dangle berries'! Once again, gender and sex are grammatical and biological terms respectively.
English is unusual in that we only apply genders to things that have a sex - other languages can use male and female pronouns with the same word to refer to entirely different objects. Saying that a table is masculine, or a girl is neuter is ridiculous to us but correct in German. That same table is feminine in French....
Most of the time a person's sex is irrelevant, like a teacher/student/criminal/driver/etc, and they should be neuter permanently, even if you know that the 150kg tattooed behemoth who stole your dinner set is a woman. That's the way we're headed, and it isn't a bad thing.
That doesn't fit with a news report I saw last week asking bosses to be more sympathetic to.......err......people? who were menstruating.
Unless, of course, a young chap could ask for a day off due to heavy periods and dare his boss to challenge him.
Insulting to real women.
As is the ridiculous 'men can also give birth' or 'birthing people' so beloved by the democrats across the pond.
This type of delusion has always been around, but was only believed by people on the fringe of society, or people with ' emotional issues'
It becomes a problem problem is when it starts to filter into the real world with people like Starmer unable to define the word 'woman'.
WOMAN......Adult human female (with a cervix) ...... Not difficult really. :)
So this childish debate from schoolboys (excluding Nick W who is on the right track) in the playground still continues!!! ::) ::) ::) ::)
I am not going to repeat (I am so fed up with this ignorance!!) all that I have said on this subject, which numerous doctors, psychiatrists and specialist in the gender identity field now recognise as fact, but just ask:
1. What is a women who has unfortunately been born without a uterus, but has everything else, will never have periods, called in your book?
2. What is a woman who has had all her reproductive organs surgically removed called?
3. What is a woman, born as a girl outwardly, who has gender reassignment with ALL female reproductive organs removed to be called - she no longer has a cervix, or anything else, does therefore not have periods - a MAN? Well yes, in your book she cannot be a women so "he" must be male, which will delight that person no end and cause great celebration after years of torment going back to early childhood!! :D :D
4. Finally, how would you describe a person who is a hermaphrodite - intersex, with both male and female organs?
Now before you come up again with more childish, misinformed, ignorant, tosh, and insult to some very unfortunate people who did not choose to be born as they have been, KNOWING from early childhood their brain gender does not match their physical body, with society slagging them off as you are, just ask yourselves WHY this subject so troubles you in a World with currently far, far, bigger issues for you lot to worry about with: War, Famine, vast movements of people fleeing their undemocratic war torn nations, staggering increases in energy prices, children in this democratic country losing social support and welfare assistance etc, etc, oh, yes, and the Covid Pandemic that is still far from being over?!!
In light of that why, oh why, are you worried what any man or women wants to be called. It is NOT an insult to "real", everyday, women as you claim for a poor unfortunate soul who is trans or intersex, to want to be medically assessed and cleared for gender reassignment to become recognised as being female, or anyone who just wants to be known as the character they display whilst peacefully going about their day to day life! Why should that bother any of us?!
I certainly have far more important things to worry about than that!!! ::) ::) ::)
That's a very long 'not going to repeat' ;D
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You explain these things, Lizzie, as if it is compulsory for everyone to be au fait with every detail of how we should address someone who considers themselves gender neutral or whatever. It is not. Most people don't even consider stuff like this in their day to day life.
Wouldn't it be nice if aforementioned gender neutral people understood this, and didn't have a hissy fit when being innocently addressed as him or her. As for changing the way an airline captain or train driver addresses their passengers, it's just self important nonsense, and is bound to attract scorn and derision.
As someone once said: "If it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, it's a duck".
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1 Woman
2 Woman
3 :-X
4 hermaphrodite
I didn't want a Christmas card anyway Lizzie :D ;D
Yep....and a man who lops off his dick is exactly that. A man without a dick. Doesn't make him a woman.
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At the Labour party conference there was a biological man who identified as a 'trans woman lesbian'. He/she got a huge round of applause for being so brave. :-X/
In reality he was a man who was attracted to women.
If a real lesbian ( one with a cervix) refuses to have sex with this biological man ( one with a dick and balls but calls himself a lesbian) then she ( the real lesbian) will be called transphobic.
It's just insane. :-X
Tigger was right.....it's complicated. ;D
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No one will be called anything for refusing to have sex with anyone else. I might refuse to have sex with a man, any man, but that doesn't make me homophobic. Your reasoning is way out.
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No one will be called anything for refusing to have sex with anyone else. I might refuse to have sex with a man, any man, but that doesn't make me homophobic. Your reasoning is way out.
The other man might not see it that way...
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No one will be called anything for refusing to have sex with anyone else. I might refuse to have sex with a man, any man, but that doesn't make me homophobic. Your reasoning is way out.
The other man might not see it that way...
Nonsense.
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https://youtu.be/yTE-YxOZ8co (https://youtu.be/yTE-YxOZ8co)
I feel for 'real lesbians' all they want a quiet life and a bit of rug to munch.... :-\
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You explain these things, Lizzie, as if it is compulsory for everyone to be au fait with every detail of how we should address someone who considers themselves gender neutral or whatever. It is not. Most people don't even consider stuff like this in their day to day life.
Wouldn't it be nice if aforementioned gender neutral people understood this, and didn't have a hissy fit when being innocently addressed as him or her. As for changing the way an airline captain or train driver addresses their passengers, it's just self important nonsense, and is bound to attract scorn and derision.
As someone once said: "If it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, it's a duck".
You miss the point Steve, none of the individuals I am talking about, those officially recognised as trans or intersexed, or "neutral" is actually actively pushing the overall case to be called certain titles. They have got bigger worries than that. It is the media and Forums like this one where groups of individuals, who do not fall under the very personal challenge of being under LGBT umbrella, are apparently so "up in arms and insulted" by this so called threat to their "normality" that are making all the noises of protest. The many individuals who I have known who fall under the LGBT banner just want to get on and lead their own lives without any big fuss. Yes, there may be the LGBT rallies and parades, but that is only the individuals who often live under threat from others feeling confident as a group to say "YES! This is us, and we are proud of being US", no matter what the so called "normal" (what really is that?!) people think.
As individuals who are gay, lesbian, or bisexual when going about their daily business should just be treated like anyone else, and the transgendered and intersex people just want to be recognised as their chosen gender, which is usually reflected in their style (masculine or feminine) of dress, make up and how they present themselves. For other "normal" people, what is the problem with that?
I had to write more than I wanted Steve to explain how this whole discussion really is for the playground, but there again the young of the current playgrounds are becoming very aware and accepting of life's diverse ways alongside with everything that mankind gets up to, and that is healthy.
As I asked before, why are those who are not the individuals that are being so heavily discussed so worried about these medically challenged individuals? Just live and let live and feel lucky that you all personally, APPARENTLY, are so confident and happy about who YOU are, what YOU have done, and how YOU have interacted with all life. :D ;
No one has yet answered fully all of my four questions with an explanation. I wonder why! ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;)
At least Dave and DG tried to! ;D ;D ;)
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At the Labour party conference there was a biological man who identified as a 'trans woman lesbian'. He/she got a huge round of applause for being so brave. :-X/
In reality he was a man who was attracted to women.
If a real lesbian ( one with a cervix) refuses to have sex with this biological man ( one with a dick and balls but calls himself a lesbian) then she ( the real lesbian) will be called transphobic.
It's just insane. :-X
Tigger was right.....it's complicated. ;D
I usually am. :)
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You explain these things, Lizzie, as if it is compulsory for everyone to be au fait with every detail of how we should address someone who considers themselves gender neutral or whatever. It is not. Most people don't even consider stuff like this in their day to day life.
Wouldn't it be nice if aforementioned gender neutral people understood this, and didn't have a hissy fit when being innocently addressed as him or her. As for changing the way an airline captain or train driver addresses their passengers, it's just self important nonsense, and is bound to attract scorn and derision.
As someone once said: "If it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, it's a duck".
You miss the point Steve, none of the individuals I am talking about, those officially recognised as trans or intersexed, or "neutral" is actually actively pushing the overall case to be called certain titles. They have got bigger worries than that. It is the media and Forums like this one where groups of individuals, who do not fall under the very personal challenge of being under LGBT umbrella, are apparently so "up in arms and insulted" by this so called threat to their "normality" that are making all the noises of protest. The many individuals who I have known who fall under the LGBT banner just want to get on and lead their own lives without any big fuss. Yes, there may be the LGBT rallies and parades, but that is only the individuals who often live under threat from others feeling confident as a group to say "YES! This is us, and we are proud of being US", no matter what the so called "normal" (what really is that?!) people think.
As individuals who are gay, lesbian, or bisexual when going about their daily business should just be treated like anyone else, and the transgendered and intersex people just want to be recognised as their chosen gender, which is usually reflected in their style (masculine or feminine) of dress, make up and how they present themselves. For other "normal" people, what is the problem with that?
I had to write more than I wanted Steve to explain how this whole discussion really is for the playground, but there again the young of the current playgrounds are becoming very aware and accepting of life's diverse ways alongside with everything that mankind gets up to, and that is healthy.
As I asked before, why are those who are not the individuals that are being so heavily discussed so worried about these medically challenged individuals? Just live and let live and feel lucky that you all personally, APPARENTLY, are so confident and happy about who YOU are, what YOU have done, and how YOU have interacted with all life. :D ;
No one has yet answered fully all of my four questions with an explanation. I wonder why! ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;)
At least Dave and DG tried to! ;D ;D ;)
You missed out the bit about how some of these people, who want to get on with their lives undisturbed, complained enough to make airline pilots change their announcements. You say it doesn't affect anyone but them, but it does/is.
In reference to another post, seeing Santa Claus snog another man affects others, including young children, too young to understand wtf is going on. Live and let live, yeah, how can that be possible when a thing so innocent as Father Christmas becomes embroiled in it? It is being rammed down our throats at every opportunity, and I'm sick of it.
You can crusade as much as you like, but you won't change the opinion of even one person on this forum, not one iota.
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You explain these things, Lizzie, as if it is compulsory for everyone to be au fait with every detail of how we should address someone who considers themselves gender neutral or whatever. It is not. Most people don't even consider stuff like this in their day to day life.
Wouldn't it be nice if aforementioned gender neutral people understood this, and didn't have a hissy fit when being innocently addressed as him or her. As for changing the way an airline captain or train driver addresses their passengers, it's just self important nonsense, and is bound to attract scorn and derision.
As someone once said: "If it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, it's a duck".
You miss the point Steve, none of the individuals I am talking about, those officially recognised as trans or intersexed, or "neutral" is actually actively pushing the overall case to be called certain titles. They have got bigger worries than that. It is the media and Forums like this one where groups of individuals, who do not fall under the very personal challenge of being under LGBT umbrella, are apparently so "up in arms and insulted" by this so called threat to their "normality" that are making all the noises of protest. The many individuals who I have known who fall under the LGBT banner just want to get on and lead their own lives without any big fuss. Yes, there may be the LGBT rallies and parades, but that is only the individuals who often live under threat from others feeling confident as a group to say "YES! This is us, and we are proud of being US", no matter what the so called "normal" (what really is that?!) people think.
As individuals who are gay, lesbian, or bisexual when going about their daily business should just be treated like anyone else, and the transgendered and intersex people just want to be recognised as their chosen gender, which is usually reflected in their style (masculine or feminine) of dress, make up and how they present themselves. For other "normal" people, what is the problem with that?
I had to write more than I wanted Steve to explain how this whole discussion really is for the playground, but there again the young of the current playgrounds are becoming very aware and accepting of life's diverse ways alongside with everything that mankind gets up to, and that is healthy.
As I asked before, why are those who are not the individuals that are being so heavily discussed so worried about these medically challenged individuals? Just live and let live and feel lucky that you all personally, APPARENTLY, are so confident and happy about who YOU are, what YOU have done, and how YOU have interacted with all life. :D ;
No one has yet answered fully all of my four questions with an explanation. I wonder why! ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;)
At least Dave and DG tried to! ;D ;D ;)
You missed out the bit about how some of these people, who want to get on with their lives undisturbed, complained enough to make airline pilots change their announcements. You say it doesn't affect anyone but them, but it does/is.
In reference to another post, seeing Santa Claus snog another man affects others, including young children, too young to understand wtf is going on. Live and let live, yeah, how can that be possible when a thing so innocent as Father Christmas becomes embroiled in it? It is being rammed down our throats at every opportunity, and I'm sick of it.
You can crusade as much as you like, but you won't change the opinion of even one person on this forum, not one iota.
I will not accept that Santa is a homosexual. Are you trying to spoil my Christmas. :P
He is a straight arrow who is married to Mrs Claus
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You explain these things, Lizzie, as if it is compulsory for everyone to be au fait with every detail of how we should address someone who considers themselves gender neutral or whatever. It is not. Most people don't even consider stuff like this in their day to day life.
Wouldn't it be nice if aforementioned gender neutral people understood this, and didn't have a hissy fit when being innocently addressed as him or her. As for changing the way an airline captain or train driver addresses their passengers, it's just self important nonsense, and is bound to attract scorn and derision.
As someone once said: "If it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, it's a duck".
You miss the point Steve, none of the individuals I am talking about, those officially recognised as trans or intersexed, or "neutral" is actually actively pushing the overall case to be called certain titles. They have got bigger worries than that. It is the media and Forums like this one where groups of individuals, who do not fall under the very personal challenge of being under LGBT umbrella, are apparently so "up in arms and insulted" by this so called threat to their "normality" that are making all the noises of protest. The many individuals who I have known who fall under the LGBT banner just want to get on and lead their own lives without any big fuss. Yes, there may be the LGBT rallies and parades, but that is only the individuals who often live under threat from others feeling confident as a group to say "YES! This is us, and we are proud of being US", no matter what the so called "normal" (what really is that?!) people think.
As individuals who are gay, lesbian, or bisexual when going about their daily business should just be treated like anyone else, and the transgendered and intersex people just want to be recognised as their chosen gender, which is usually reflected in their style (masculine or feminine) of dress, make up and how they present themselves. For other "normal" people, what is the problem with that?
I had to write more than I wanted Steve to explain how this whole discussion really is for the playground, but there again the young of the current playgrounds are becoming very aware and accepting of life's diverse ways alongside with everything that mankind gets up to, and that is healthy.
As I asked before, why are those who are not the individuals that are being so heavily discussed so worried about these medically challenged individuals? Just live and let live and feel lucky that you all personally, APPARENTLY, are so confident and happy about who YOU are, what YOU have done, and how YOU have interacted with all life. :D ;
No one has yet answered fully all of my four questions with an explanation. I wonder why! ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;)
At least Dave and DG tried to! ;D ;D ;)
You missed out the bit about how some of these people, who want to get on with their lives undisturbed, complained enough to make airline pilots change their announcements. You say it doesn't affect anyone but them, but it does/is.
In reference to another post, seeing Santa Claus snog another man affects others, including young children, too young to understand wtf is going on. Live and let live, yeah, how can that be possible when a thing so innocent as Father Christmas becomes embroiled in it? It is being rammed down our throats at every opportunity, and I'm sick of it.
You can crusade as much as you like, but you won't change the opinion of even one person on this forum, not one iota.
I will not accept that Santa is a homosexual. Are you trying to spoil my Christmas. :P
He is a straight arrow who is married to Mrs Claus
Aah..... :-\ ;D ;D ;D
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You explain these things, Lizzie, as if it is compulsory for everyone to be au fait with every detail of how we should address someone who considers themselves gender neutral or whatever. It is not. Most people don't even consider stuff like this in their day to day life.
Wouldn't it be nice if aforementioned gender neutral people understood this, and didn't have a hissy fit when being innocently addressed as him or her. As for changing the way an airline captain or train driver addresses their passengers, it's just self important nonsense, and is bound to attract scorn and derision.
As someone once said: "If it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, it's a duck".
You miss the point Steve, none of the individuals I am talking about, those officially recognised as trans or intersexed, or "neutral" is actually actively pushing the overall case to be called certain titles. They have got bigger worries than that. It is the media and Forums like this one where groups of individuals, who do not fall under the very personal challenge of being under LGBT umbrella, are apparently so "up in arms and insulted" by this so called threat to their "normality" that are making all the noises of protest. The many individuals who I have known who fall under the LGBT banner just want to get on and lead their own lives without any big fuss. Yes, there may be the LGBT rallies and parades, but that is only the individuals who often live under threat from others feeling confident as a group to say "YES! This is us, and we are proud of being US", no matter what the so called "normal" (what really is that?!) people think.
As individuals who are gay, lesbian, or bisexual when going about their daily business should just be treated like anyone else, and the transgendered and intersex people just want to be recognised as their chosen gender, which is usually reflected in their style (masculine or feminine) of dress, make up and how they present themselves. For other "normal" people, what is the problem with that?
I had to write more than I wanted Steve to explain how this whole discussion really is for the playground, but there again the young of the current playgrounds are becoming very aware and accepting of life's diverse ways alongside with everything that mankind gets up to, and that is healthy.
As I asked before, why are those who are not the individuals that are being so heavily discussed so worried about these medically challenged individuals? Just live and let live and feel lucky that you all personally, APPARENTLY, are so confident and happy about who YOU are, what YOU have done, and how YOU have interacted with all life. :D ;
No one has yet answered fully all of my four questions with an explanation. I wonder why! ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;)
At least Dave and DG tried to! ;D ;D ;)
You missed out the bit about how some of these people, who want to get on with their lives undisturbed, complained enough to make airline pilots change their announcements. You say it doesn't affect anyone but them, but it does/is.
In reference to another post, seeing Santa Claus snog another man affects others, including young children, too young to understand wtf is going on. Live and let live, yeah, how can that be possible when a thing so innocent as Father Christmas becomes embroiled in it? It is being rammed down our throats at every opportunity, and I'm sick of it.
You can crusade as much as you like, but you won't change the opinion of even one person on this forum, not one iota.
I will not accept that Santa is a homosexual. Are you trying to spoil my Christmas. :P
He is a straight arrow who is married to Mrs Claus
Aah..... :-\ ;D ;D ;D
What is Santa bringing you, Tig.
I was thinking a 23 year old scandi bird would be in order.........then I remembered your arthritic hips.. ::) ::) :D ;)
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You explain these things, Lizzie, as if it is compulsory for everyone to be au fait with every detail of how we should address someone who considers themselves gender neutral or whatever. It is not. Most people don't even consider stuff like this in their day to day life.
Wouldn't it be nice if aforementioned gender neutral people understood this, and didn't have a hissy fit when being innocently addressed as him or her. As for changing the way an airline captain or train driver addresses their passengers, it's just self important nonsense, and is bound to attract scorn and derision.
As someone once said: "If it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, it's a duck".
You miss the point Steve, none of the individuals I am talking about, those officially recognised as trans or intersexed, or "neutral" is actually actively pushing the overall case to be called certain titles. They have got bigger worries than that. It is the media and Forums like this one where groups of individuals, who do not fall under the very personal challenge of being under LGBT umbrella, are apparently so "up in arms and insulted" by this so called threat to their "normality" that are making all the noises of protest. The many individuals who I have known who fall under the LGBT banner just want to get on and lead their own lives without any big fuss. Yes, there may be the LGBT rallies and parades, but that is only the individuals who often live under threat from others feeling confident as a group to say "YES! This is us, and we are proud of being US", no matter what the so called "normal" (what really is that?!) people think.
As individuals who are gay, lesbian, or bisexual when going about their daily business should just be treated like anyone else, and the transgendered and intersex people just want to be recognised as their chosen gender, which is usually reflected in their style (masculine or feminine) of dress, make up and how they present themselves. For other "normal" people, what is the problem with that?
I had to write more than I wanted Steve to explain how this whole discussion really is for the playground, but there again the young of the current playgrounds are becoming very aware and accepting of life's diverse ways alongside with everything that mankind gets up to, and that is healthy.
As I asked before, why are those who are not the individuals that are being so heavily discussed so worried about these medically challenged individuals? Just live and let live and feel lucky that you all personally, APPARENTLY, are so confident and happy about who YOU are, what YOU have done, and how YOU have interacted with all life. :D ;
No one has yet answered fully all of my four questions with an explanation. I wonder why! ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;)
At least Dave and DG tried to! ;D ;D ;)
You missed out the bit about how some of these people, who want to get on with their lives undisturbed, complained enough to make airline pilots change their announcements. You say it doesn't affect anyone but them, but it does/is.
In reference to another post, seeing Santa Claus snog another man affects others, including young children, too young to understand wtf is going on. Live and let live, yeah, how can that be possible when a thing so innocent as Father Christmas becomes embroiled in it? It is being rammed down our throats at every opportunity, and I'm sick of it.
You can crusade as much as you like, but you won't change the opinion of even one person on this forum, not one iota.
I will not accept that Santa is a homosexual. Are you trying to spoil my Christmas. :P
He is a straight arrow who is married to Mrs Claus
Aah..... :-\ ;D ;D ;D
What is Santa bringing you, Tig.
I was thinking a 23 year old scandi bird would be in order.........then I remembered your arthritic hips.. ::) ::) :D ;)
Sounds great! :y All I need is a bit of lubrication! ::) That's all. :)
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Consider it done.
I can send her covered in warm chocolate if it helps. :y
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You explain these things, Lizzie, as if it is compulsory for everyone to be au fait with every detail of how we should address someone who considers themselves gender neutral or whatever. It is not. Most people don't even consider stuff like this in their day to day life.
Wouldn't it be nice if aforementioned gender neutral people understood this, and didn't have a hissy fit when being innocently addressed as him or her. As for changing the way an airline captain or train driver addresses their passengers, it's just self important nonsense, and is bound to attract scorn and derision.
As someone once said: "If it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, it's a duck".
You miss the point Steve, none of the individuals I am talking about, those officially recognised as trans or intersexed, or "neutral" is actually actively pushing the overall case to be called certain titles. They have got bigger worries than that. It is the media and Forums like this one where groups of individuals, who do not fall under the very personal challenge of being under LGBT umbrella, are apparently so "up in arms and insulted" by this so called threat to their "normality" that are making all the noises of protest. The many individuals who I have known who fall under the LGBT banner just want to get on and lead their own lives without any big fuss. Yes, there may be the LGBT rallies and parades, but that is only the individuals who often live under threat from others feeling confident as a group to say "YES! This is us, and we are proud of being US", no matter what the so called "normal" (what really is that?!) people think.
As individuals who are gay, lesbian, or bisexual when going about their daily business should just be treated like anyone else, and the transgendered and intersex people just want to be recognised as their chosen gender, which is usually reflected in their style (masculine or feminine) of dress, make up and how they present themselves. For other "normal" people, what is the problem with that?
I had to write more than I wanted Steve to explain how this whole discussion really is for the playground, but there again the young of the current playgrounds are becoming very aware and accepting of life's diverse ways alongside with everything that mankind gets up to, and that is healthy.
As I asked before, why are those who are not the individuals that are being so heavily discussed so worried about these medically challenged individuals? Just live and let live and feel lucky that you all personally, APPARENTLY, are so confident and happy about who YOU are, what YOU have done, and how YOU have interacted with all life. :D ;
No one has yet answered fully all of my four questions with an explanation. I wonder why! ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;)
At least Dave and DG tried to! ;D ;D ;)
You missed out the bit about how some of these people, who want to get on with their lives undisturbed, complained enough to make airline pilots change their announcements. You say it doesn't affect anyone but them, but it does/is.
In reference to another post, seeing Santa Claus snog another man affects others, including young children, too young to understand wtf is going on. Live and let live, yeah, how can that be possible when a thing so innocent as Father Christmas becomes embroiled in it? It is being rammed down our throats at every opportunity, and I'm sick of it.
You can crusade as much as you like, but you won't change the opinion of even one person on this forum, not one iota.
I am not crusading Steve; that is the domain of those who start these threads going in the direction of LGBT issues. I am just stating the facts surrounding most of those put into those categories, especially to do with gender. They have the right to express their views, but I equally have the right to point out the facts from a specialist position.
As for it being rammed down your throat; that’s only if you care enough about it and take notice of something stirred up by the media like with the matter of airlines, or anything else on those lines. if you take notice of all that the media dish up and making something out of nothing, then I feel sorry for you Steve. You must be perpetually in a state of worry!! ;D ;D
That can happen in our lives, but soon for us it won’t matter. As I said, there are far bigger issues to get stressed about. We are of the past, the young are the future. As for not me changing the opinion of anyone on this forum, I also do not care a jot as the new generations will decide what type of world they want to live in. Including if they want to tell their children the lie we have perpetuated for hundreds of years, and especially since the Victorian age for the British, even though he does not exist and even 5 year old children twig onto that truth. If the parents are gay, well Father Christmas must be gay, eh? ;D ;D ;)
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Father Christmas doesn't exist , sorry to spoil this thread..😂
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Father Christmas doesn't exist , sorry to spoil this thread..😂
You bastard! :'(
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Father Christmas doesn't exist , sorry to spoil this thread..😂
You bastard! :'(
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Harsh but true 😅
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Father Christmas doesn't exist , sorry to spoil this thread..😂
https://youtu.be/TYmhC66pc60 (https://youtu.be/TYmhC66pc60)
Santa is alive and well. :y
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Father Christmas doesn't exist , sorry to spoil this thread..😂
https://youtu.be/TYmhC66pc60 (https://youtu.be/TYmhC66pc60)
Santa is alive and well. :y
Santa has no interest in those elves as he's gay! :D
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Anyway this was about non gender non binary 'dangle berries' ffs you’ve got to be some fkg thing man or woman that’s all there is. And without them there would be no men or women👍
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Actually LZ you are clearly crusading.
The only reason there is a celebrity wokeness of pronouns and non binary nonsense is because people like you, and those who should know better insist that everyone is diverse and minorities need to be over represented in order to live happily in society and that this same society is old fashioned and bigoted and requires cancelling.
This forces celebrities to tow the line in order to not be cancelled as that obviously destroys their revenue streams.
Ergo the nonsense you peddle is a self serving mechanism destroying normal, decent society made up of everybody.
It needs to stop and it needs to stop now.
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Actually LZ you are clearly crusading.
The only reason there is a celebrity wokeness of pronouns and non binary nonsense is because people like you, and those who should know better insist that everyone is diverse and minorities need to be over represented in order to live happily in society and that this same society is old fashioned and bigoted and requires cancelling.
This forces celebrities to tow the line in order to not be cancelled as that obviously destroys their revenue streams.
Ergo the nonsense you peddle is a self serving mechanism destroying normal, decent society made up of everybody.
It needs to stop and it needs to stop now.
Ya, mien Fuhrer!
I am not going to add to what I have said anymore because I do not care what 1, 10, or 10,000,000 say they believe as the medical truth is the medical truth, nothing less, nothing more, and in a democratic society that amazingly we still enjoy I, as someone with specialist knowledge who has been in discussions with numerous medical and psychological specialists in this field, can verbalise the truth if I choose to. Remember how many millions of people believed the Sun traveled around the Earth, and were so angry that anyone could claim the scientific truth proving it was wrong. Oh, such blasphemy!! ::) ::) ::)
But believe what you want to believe. The World is moving on with or without you. ;)
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If that is the way it is moving, then I will continue to have no part of it.
People can be whatever they want to be without the need to label everything so divisively. The sooner you realise this and accept it the greater the chance the world might become a happier place.
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If that is the way it is moving, then I will continue to have no part of it.
People can be whatever they want to be without the need to label everything so divisively. The sooner you realise this and accept it the greater the chance the world might become a happier place.
ME realising that and the “world might become a happier place”?? :o :o
Blimey, can little old me make such a difference in this massive world?! ;D ;D ;D
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How many times have you promised to only post in car related threads ?
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How many times have you promised to only post in car related threads ?
Indeed, but then someone posts in General Chat statements that require a challenge. Like everyone else on here I think I have the right, and I actually do own an Omega, to express my views. But perhaps only those who think they can dominate and dictate what we all should be thinking only have that right?! ::) ::) ::)
The opposite to that is a dictatorship. :(
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None of the admin team own an Omega. Does that make their opinions any less valid? ???
I suspect that if you actually spoke to anyone in any work place for a reasonable amount of time, you would find that you are in a minority with what you are trying to achieve.
Certainly, this is obviously not the place for it, and you can expect robust opposition to it.
More so if you insist on regurgitating dissertations to try and defend the position.
That's why the wokist approach is so dangerous. You always have to be absolutely and categorically in the right. Unfortunately, you are not. As bourne by your entrenched piety. If you were genuinely open minded, then your approach would reflect it.
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None of the admin team own an Omega. Does that make their opinions any less valid? ???
I suspect that if you actually spoke to anyone in any work place for a reasonable amount of time, you would find that you are in a minority with what you are trying to achieve.
Certainly, this is obviously not the place for it, and you can expect robust opposition to it.
More so if you insist on regurgitating dissertations to try and defend the position.
That's why the wokist approach is so dangerous. You always have to be absolutely and categorically in the right. Unfortunately, you are not. As bourne by your entrenched piety. If you were genuinely open minded, then your approach would reflect it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah………. ::) ::)
So you think it is only me who thinks as I do, actually having an open mind unlike you, but I have explained everything I have to. ::) ;)
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I'm glad you post on here, Lizzie, it reminds me why I feel the way I do :)
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None of the admin team own an Omega. Does that make their opinions any less valid? ???
I suspect that if you actually spoke to anyone in any work place for a reasonable amount of time, you would find that you are in a minority with what you are trying to achieve.
Certainly, this is obviously not the place for it, and you can expect robust opposition to it.
More so if you insist on regurgitating dissertations to try and defend the position.
That's why the wokist approach is so dangerous. You always have to be absolutely and categorically in the right. Unfortunately, you are not. As bourne by your entrenched piety. If you were genuinely open minded, then your approach would reflect it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah………. ::) ::)
So you think it is only me who thinks as I do, actually having an open mind unlike you, but I have explained everything I have to. ::) ;)
QED.