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Title: F35 recovered from Med
Post by: Varche on 08 December 2021, 09:14:17
Well done recovering the F35 from the depths of the Med.

Apparently a mile deep. Some operation.
Title: Re: F35 recovered from Med
Post by: STEMO on 08 December 2021, 11:19:55
Well done recovering the F35 from the depths of the Med.

Apparently a mile deep. Some operation.
If we hadn't done it, I can think of someone who would.
Title: Re: F35 recovered from Med
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 08 December 2021, 11:21:56
Apparently the £100,000,000 jet crashed into the sea because someone forgot to remove a £10 plastic rain cover.  ::)
Title: Re: F35 recovered from Med
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 08 December 2021, 11:24:17
Well done recovering the F35 from the depths of the Med.

Apparently a mile deep. Some operation.
If we hadn't done it, I can think of someone who would.


Yes, and that is the real reason why they have salvaged the plane.

I doubt there is much that can be repaired and put back into commission on this brimming with electronics state of art military weapon, but perhaps the aeronautic specialists on here can tell us more. ;)
Title: Re: F35 recovered from Med
Post by: redelitev6 on 08 December 2021, 11:58:03
Spray some WD40 on it and it'll be fine
Title: Re: F35 recovered from Med
Post by: Rangie on 08 December 2021, 12:19:12
Spray some WD40 on it and it'll be fine
.

Don't forget cable ties  both marvellous inventions.
Title: Re: F35 recovered from Med
Post by: Andy B on 08 December 2021, 12:58:10
Spray some WD40 on it and it'll be fine
.

Don't forget cable ties  both marvellous inventions.

and Duct tape ....  :)
Title: Re: F35 recovered from Med
Post by: STEMO on 08 December 2021, 13:00:10
Spray some WD40 on it and it'll be fine
.

Don't forget cable ties  both marvellous inventions.

and Duct tape ....  :)
Indeed, Andy. I'm held together with duct tape  ;D
Title: Re: F35 recovered from Med
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 08 December 2021, 13:49:55
Spray some WD40 on it and it'll be fine
.

Don't forget cable ties  both marvellous inventions.

and Duct tape ....  :)
Indeed, Andy. I'm held together with duct tape  ;D

I could do with a squirt of WD40 now and again.  :y
Title: Re: F35 recovered from Med
Post by: LC0112G on 08 December 2021, 14:38:21
Apparently the £100,000,000 jet crashed into the sea because someone forgot to remove a £10 plastic rain cover.  ::)

Nothing in the F-35 program is as cheap as £10. Normal remove before flight tags can be bought for £10 each, but F-35 ones will have a few extra zeros on them.

Story goes that the engine intake blanks are often removed and used as "knee pads / cushions" when ground crew crawl into the engine intakes to check the front of the engine (which happens regularly). If the ground crew then forget to remove the "knee pads / cushions"  as they crawl back out again, then this is what happens. I'm told you can't actually see very far up the intakes from outside, so if the "knee pads / cushions" get left in there, the pilot can't see them when he does his pre-flight walk around checks.

Someone will be in really hot water for leaking the video of the crash : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFoyICk0qJc

The remaining 5 RAF/RN F-35's flew off the carrier this morning and returned to RAF Marham.
Title: Re: F35 recovered from Med
Post by: STEMO on 08 December 2021, 14:55:13
Not a lot of intelligence to be gleaned from that footage. It kind of just fell off the end of the ship  ;D
Title: Re: F35 recovered from Med
Post by: Varche on 08 December 2021, 15:53:59
I was super impressed with the cool timing of the point to eject by the pilot.
Title: Re: F35 recovered from Med
Post by: Rangie on 08 December 2021, 17:51:42
Spray some WD40 on it and it'll be fine
.

Don't forget cable ties  both marvellous inventions.

and Duct tape ....  :)
Indeed, Andy. I'm held together with duct tape  ;D


Between us we could sort it over the weekend..😁
Title: Re: F35 recovered from Med
Post by: STEMO on 08 December 2021, 17:58:40
Spray some WD40 on it and it'll be fine
.

Don't forget cable ties  both marvellous inventions.

and Duct tape ....  :)
Indeed, Andy. I'm held together with duct tape  ;D


Between us we could sort it over the weekend..😁
Now there's an offer I can refuse  ;D
Title: Re: F35 recovered from Med
Post by: Rangie on 08 December 2021, 18:13:17
Not a lot of intelligence to be gleaned from that footage. It kind of just fell off the end of the ship  ;D
.

Had the pilot been to a Christmas party the previous evening?
Title: Re: F35 recovered from Med
Post by: redelitev6 on 08 December 2021, 18:31:40
Not a lot of intelligence to be gleaned from that footage. It kind of just fell off the end of the ship  ;D
Looks like he tried to set off in 3rd gear ?  ;D
Title: Re: F35 recovered from Med
Post by: BazaJT on 08 December 2021, 19:12:34
It'll have been the crank sensor that packed in :D :D
Title: Re: F35 recovered from Med
Post by: omegod on 08 December 2021, 21:40:28
It'll have been the crank sensor that packed in :D :D

Probably the oval shaped one for that year  ;D
Title: Re: F35 recovered from Med
Post by: LC0112G on 08 December 2021, 21:52:29
I was super impressed with the cool timing of the point to eject by the pilot.

It's not yet clear if the ejection was pilot or plane initiated.

The F-35B (The jump jet version that the UK have stupidly ordered) has an automatic ejector seat. If the plane detects a failure in the lift fan at slow speeds it can 'spit it's dummy out'. This is because there are two big columns of 'lift' air - one from the lift fan immediately behind the cockpit, and a second from the normal jet pipe nozzle that swivels to face downwards. If the lift fan fails, then the single remaining jet thrust from the rear of the plane will cause it to flip arse over cockpit quicker than the pilot can react and eject - think of a £100M Catherine wheel. Chances are the plane would be upside down by the time the ejector seat left the cockpit, and the pilot will make a nasty splat as he hits the deck/ground. So the computer times everything and chucks the seat out of the plane at the right moment - hopefully.
Title: Re: F35 recovered from Med
Post by: LC0112G on 08 December 2021, 21:58:32
Not a lot of intelligence to be gleaned from that footage. It kind of just fell off the end of the ship  ;D

Perhaps not, but that isn't really the point. Someone thought it was ok to film the ship-borne monitoring systems on their personal mobile phone - that's bad enough. But to then send that film to someone off the ship whilst it was still at sea, who then posted it up on social media.....

So many security issues there that whoever did it probably shouldn't be making plans to do anything for the next several years.
Title: Re: F35 recovered from Med
Post by: Varche on 08 December 2021, 21:59:18
That is really interesting. The incident including how it was recovered would make a great documentary. Sadly it will never be made.
Title: Re: F35 recovered from Med
Post by: Kevin Wood on 10 December 2021, 21:03:55
I was super impressed with the cool timing of the point to eject by the pilot.
I was quite surprised it took him until then to realise he wasn't going flying today looking at the way it was ambling towards the end of the ramp. ;D
Title: Re: F35 recovered from Med
Post by: ronnyd on 10 December 2021, 21:11:52
Perhaps he thought that he'd rather ditch in the sea than on the flight deck. :)
Title: Re: F35 recovered from Med
Post by: Kevin Wood on 11 December 2021, 00:16:41
Perhaps he thought that he'd rather ditch in the sea than on the flight deck. :)

Does rather beg the question of why he didn't just stop.. unless the aircraft had other ideas? ;D
Title: Re: F35 recovered from Med
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 11 December 2021, 01:09:33
Perhaps he thought that he'd rather ditch in the sea than on the flight deck. :)

Does rather beg the question of why he didn't just stop.. unless the aircraft had other ideas? ;D
A320 demonstrator crash being a case in point :D
Title: Re: F35 recovered from Med
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 11 December 2021, 11:23:02
Perhaps he thought that he'd rather ditch in the sea than on the flight deck. :)

Does rather beg the question of why he didn't just stop.. unless the aircraft had other ideas? ;D

It makes you wonder to what extent the pilots of these jets are just passengers.  :-\

Press the big green button for Go!  ;D
Title: Re: F35 recovered from Med
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 11 December 2021, 14:15:00
There's an industry joke about the only two living things in the cockpit being a pilot and a fierce dog...

The pilot is there to put the passengers at ease and the dog is there to bite the pilot if he tries to touch anything :D
Title: Re: F35 recovered from Med
Post by: Shackeng on 11 December 2021, 17:00:53
I was super impressed with the cool timing of the point to eject by the pilot.
Some have auto eject if certain parameters not met. Not sure if this is one.
Edit, I see that has already been mentioned.
Title: Re: F35 recovered from Med
Post by: Varche on 04 March 2022, 07:55:39
US has just recovered their similar plane that went into the South China sea after a poor landing  think.

12,400 foot of water. Good job they have a towing hook that the submersible attached to!