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Title: Do you know how wide your car is?
Post by: Varche on 14 December 2021, 08:35:34
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-59641534

I wish the resident would put his camera on a lamp post. It would be even funnier
Title: Re: Do you know how wide your car is?
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 14 December 2021, 08:44:04

This is a news story of a few weeks back in the U.K.

Even a police van was caught out by these bollards being too close together ;D ;D

 ;)
Title: Re: Do you know how wide your car is?
Post by: Varche on 14 December 2021, 08:57:19
It takes news a few weeks to travel a thousand miles.  ;D

Someone might have missed it.
Title: Re: Do you know how wide your car is?
Post by: Andy B on 14 December 2021, 08:59:21
It takes news a few weeks to travel a thousand miles.  ;D

Someone might have missed it.

It was only yesterday that I saw it on the BBC's website  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Do you know how wide your car is?
Post by: Rangie on 14 December 2021, 09:02:01
Saw this a couple of months ago on the news, then it made its way onto You Tube.
Title: Re: Do you know how wide your car is?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 14 December 2021, 10:50:21
Devon County Council installed a couple of 'traffic calming' chicane type things a few years ago near me and they're a complete PITA if not down right dangerous.  ::)

One is near the local school so causes massive congestion (and pollution) in the morning and at kick out time, and another is on a bend so if you're not on the priority side, you can't see if anything is coming the other way that has right of way. I've had several near misses on that one!  >:(



Title: Re: Do you know how wide your car is?
Post by: Olympia5776 on 14 December 2021, 10:58:40
I remember a set of bollards like that in an approach road into Hemel Hempstead Industrial estate . It looked like they were installed to prevent HGV's routing through the town .
I scraped the wheel rims of several cars on the concrete bases over the years as I passed through them and that was at pedestrian speed as the gap was so narrow .
Just a couple of inches off centre and crunch .
Perhaps the council need to install some kind of "soft" early warning device like this ...

(https://i.ibb.co/PWzSVD7/acid-picdump-30-d.jpg)
Title: Re: Do you know how wide your car is?
Post by: Nick W on 14 December 2021, 11:15:22
I remember a set of bollards like that in an approach road into Hemel Hempstead Industrial estate . It looked like they were installed to prevent HGV's routing through the town .
I scraped the wheel rims of several cars on the concrete bases over the years as I passed through them and that was at pedestrian speed as the gap was so narrow .
Just a couple of inches off centre and crunch .
Perhaps the council need to install some kind of "soft" early warning device like this ...

(https://i.ibb.co/PWzSVD7/acid-picdump-30-d.jpg)


The cause is stupid people driving cars they can't handle.
A fix is removing the cars.
The cure is removing the stupid people as well. That's impossible, so a fix would have to do.
Title: Re: Do you know how wide your car is?
Post by: Andy B on 14 December 2021, 11:25:06
there's a width restriction on the approach to an industrial estate near me that was to stop HGV's from using the road, but also to allow fire engines etc to use it if needed. On the rare occasions I use the road, I use the bit intended for fire engines because the ML will only just fit .... there's paint on the concrete barriers representing just about every manufacturer.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.5759044,-2.2183326,3a,75y,119.67h,70.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spvHWoi1s_1acSLS8kQ9qHQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en-GB
Title: Re: Do you know how wide your car is?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 14 December 2021, 11:27:58

The cause is stupid people driving cars they can't handle.
A fix is removing the cars.
The cure is removing the stupid people as well. That's impossible, so a fix would have to do.

A government minister suggested this a few days ago in relation to climate change............  ::)
Title: Re: Do you know how wide your car is?
Post by: Nick W on 14 December 2021, 11:57:36

The cause is stupid people driving cars they can't handle.
A fix is removing the cars.
The cure is removing the stupid people as well. That's impossible, so a fix would have to do.

A government minister suggested this a few days ago in relation to climate change............  ::)


Which one?
I'm amazed that somebody had the balls to say it in public.
Title: Re: Do you know how wide your car is?
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 14 December 2021, 12:03:41
Some dopey bint who has barely been outside London said that car ownership is an old fashioned 20th century concept, or words to that effect.
A 21st century version of "let them eat cake."  ::)
Title: Re: Do you know how wide your car is?
Post by: TheBoy on 14 December 2021, 12:19:46
I idiotted both mirrors off a yellow Escort van back in my yooof.  A tractor was turning right, and I was pedal to the metal flat out (the only way), going to undertake him...

...and before turning right he swerved left a bit (WTF, no idea, maybe was gonna try a Scandie Flick in his Massey).  So I lose one mirror on his back tyre, and one mirror on a post.

No bodywork damage bar slight scratches where the mirrors bounced off the panels.


Ah, the joys of youth ;D
Title: Re: Do you know how wide your car is?
Post by: TheBoy on 14 December 2021, 12:20:19
idiotted? bloody word censor.  Knocked.
Title: Re: Do you know how wide your car is?
Post by: Rangie on 14 December 2021, 13:41:07
The Range fits in my garage but have to fold the mirrors in , have never forgotten yet will be an expensive job if ever I do.
Title: Re: Do you know how wide your car is?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 14 December 2021, 14:00:52
The Range fits in my garage but have to fold the mirrors in , have never forgotten yet will be an expensive job if ever I do.

A friend who works in the oil and gas industry lived in Houston, Texas for a while and apparently it's very common for British oil workers to head straight for the nearest big pick up dealership when they arrive.  :)

Apparently it's also very common to find big pick ups with their British drivers at the body shops because they assumed their shiny new pick up would fit in the garage!  ;D
Title: Re: Do you know how wide your car is?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 14 December 2021, 14:11:40
The Range fits in my garage but have to fold the mirrors in , have never forgotten yet will be an expensive job if ever I do.
Just don't fold them out to reverse out again...
Title: Re: Do you know how wide your car is?
Post by: Andy B on 14 December 2021, 14:14:26
I've never even tried to get my ML into my garage, even if it went in there, I doubt I'd be able to open the door enough to get out of the car

 ..... I'd squash my Smart Roadster if I did!  ::)
Title: Re: Do you know how wide your car is?
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 14 December 2021, 14:29:38
A work coleauge once bought a VW Beetle and reversed it into his garage whilst leaning out out the open door  because his rear screen was dirty.  ::) ::)

Got a beetle with a suicide door. :o

Title: Re: Do you know how wide your car is?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 14 December 2021, 15:27:52
No bloody chance in the 152, its wide and the rear is wider  ;D

As for the low bridge, one in america is so infamous it actually has its own website where they post the impacts!

http://11foot8.com/

a particular favourite is: 

https://youtu.be/X-ErHcOTa6w
Title: Re: Do you know how wide your car is?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 14 December 2021, 15:44:13
No bloody chance in the 152, its wide and the rear is wider  ;D

As for the low bridge, one in america is so infamous it actually has its own website where they post the impacts!

http://11foot8.com/

a particular favourite is: 

https://youtu.be/X-ErHcOTa6w
They've raised it almost a foot and fitted a girder height gauge either side and people still try and drive under it.  :o
Title: Re: Do you know how wide your car is?
Post by: Olympia5776 on 14 December 2021, 15:56:26

The cause is stupid people driving cars they can't handle.
A fix is removing the cars.
The cure is removing the stupid people as well. That's impossible, so a fix would have to do.

A government minister suggested this a few days ago in relation to climate change............  ::)


Which one?
I'm amazed that somebody had the balls to say it in public.

https://www.am-online.com/news/market-insight/2021/12/10/uk-must-move-away-from-car-ownership-says-transport-minister
Title: Re: Do you know how wide your car is?
Post by: 78bex on 14 December 2021, 21:30:43

The cause is stupid people driving cars they can't handle.
A fix is removing the cars.
The cure is removing the stupid people as well. That's impossible, so a fix would have to do.

A government minister suggested this a few days ago in relation to climate change............  ::)


Which one?
I'm amazed that somebody had the balls to say it in public.

https://www.am-online.com/news/market-insight/2021/12/10/uk-must-move-away-from-car-ownership-says-transport-minister

Quote "Transport Minister Trudy Harrison MP has said........"  ???  ;D Here`s the CV for this genius :-

Trudy worked at Sellafield for 5 years as a technical clerk before setting up and running a childcare business.
Following a career break, Trudy was employed by Copeland Borough Council, first as a Locality Officer and then as Community Regeneration Officer. Trudy left Copeland Borough Council in 2013 to work as a Programme Manager for investors specialising in renewable energy and sustainable community projects.

  https://www.gov.uk/government/ministers/parliamentary-under-secretary-of-state--127 (https://www.gov.uk/government/ministers/parliamentary-under-secretary-of-state--127)
Title: Re: Do you know how wide your car is?
Post by: Nick W on 14 December 2021, 21:43:34

The cause is stupid people driving cars they can't handle.
A fix is removing the cars.
The cure is removing the stupid people as well. That's impossible, so a fix would have to do.

A government minister suggested this a few days ago in relation to climate change............  ::)


Which one?
I'm amazed that somebody had the balls to say it in public.

https://www.am-online.com/news/market-insight/2021/12/10/uk-must-move-away-from-car-ownership-says-transport-minister (https://www.am-online.com/news/market-insight/2021/12/10/uk-must-move-away-from-car-ownership-says-transport-minister)

Quote "Transport Minister Trudy Harrison MP has said........"  ??? ;D Here`s the CV for this genius :-

Trudy worked at Sellafield for 5 years as a technical clerk before setting up and running a childcare business.
Following a career break, Trudy was employed by Copeland Borough Council, first as a Locality Officer and then as Community Regeneration Officer. Trudy left Copeland Borough Council in 2013 to work as a Programme Manager for investors specialising in renewable energy and sustainable community projects.

  https://www.gov.uk/government/ministers/parliamentary-under-secretary-of-state--127 (https://www.gov.uk/government/ministers/parliamentary-under-secretary-of-state--127)


And that derogatory genius is exactly my point: the way we use transport, energy really, is not and never was sustainable. The costs were masked, and the consequences deliberately ignored. That's no longer possible, and the only effective solutions are thoroughly unpalatable.


The way we profligately use power for everything cannot continue.
Title: Re: Do you know how wide your car is?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 14 December 2021, 23:20:59

The way we profligately use power for everything cannot continue.

OK Greta!  ;D
Title: Re: Do you know how wide your car is?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 15 December 2021, 13:08:55
I remember a set of bollards like that in an approach road into Hemel Hempstead Industrial estate . It looked like they were installed to prevent HGV's routing through the town .
I scraped the wheel rims of several cars on the concrete bases over the years as I passed through them and that was at pedestrian speed as the gap was so narrow .
Just a couple of inches off centre and crunch .
Perhaps the council need to install some kind of "soft" early warning device like this ...

(https://i.ibb.co/PWzSVD7/acid-picdump-30-d.jpg)


The cause is stupid people driving cars they can't handle.
A fix is removing the cars.
The cure is removing the stupid people as well. That's impossible, so a fix would have to do.

TB has a 'cunning plan' on how to implement this. ::) ::)
Title: Re: Do you know how wide your car is?
Post by: TheBoy on 15 December 2021, 15:27:53
Much like a roundabout we have just on the outskirts of Brakkers. We have the annual event where a lorry goes straight over the top, demolishing it in the process.  Then, annually, about 2 weeks after the regular lorry incident, we get cars not making it round, and rolling down the bank.

Its a bit tedious, as it takes them weeks to repair the damage each time.
Title: Re: Do you know how wide your car is?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 15 December 2021, 15:33:31
Much like a roundabout we have just on the outskirts of Brakkers. We have the annual event where a lorry goes straight over the top, demolishing it in the process.  Then, annually, about 2 weeks after the regular lorry incident, we get cars not making it round, and rolling down the bank.

Its a bit tedious, as it takes them weeks to repair the damage each time.

Have you mentioned 'the cull' to the local council. ::) ::) :D
Title: Re: Do you know how wide your car is?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 15 December 2021, 16:56:25
Much like a roundabout we have just on the outskirts of Brakkers. We have the annual event where a lorry goes straight over the top, demolishing it in the process.  Then, annually, about 2 weeks after the regular lorry incident, we get cars not making it round, and rolling down the bank.

Its a bit tedious, as it takes them weeks to repair the damage each time.

Most dissapointed that you have not set up a website with the video images
Title: Re: Do you know how wide your car is?
Post by: Drewomega on 15 December 2021, 19:51:40
The way we profligately use power for everything cannot continue.

Nuclear is the ONLY way to GO! Everybody else is doing it (in europe) as we buy their electrickery from not so far away.
See Here!

https://gridwatch.co.uk/ (https://gridwatch.co.uk/)

I worked latterly on CCGT,s and nuclear as a fully qualified instrument engineer (DG will know what that is) but you can see which provides the most power for our needs at this moment. GAS AND OIL (Yea Yea) I know what you are going to retort!

Jock
Title: Re: Do you know how wide your car is?
Post by: Rangie on 15 December 2021, 20:00:44
I'll stick with petrol & diesel, when it all comes to conclusion I'll get a bicycle 😂😂😂
Title: Re: Do you know how wide your car is?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 15 December 2021, 20:05:11
I'll stick with petrol & diesel, when it all comes to conclusion I'll get a bicycle 😂😂😂
No need to get cold and wet now you have a bus pass.
Title: Re: Do you know how wide your car is?
Post by: olm on 15 December 2021, 20:09:17
Today's car hatred is insane. And the worst thing is the people who use the car to work and support these measures
Title: Re: Do you know how wide your car is?
Post by: Rangie on 15 December 2021, 20:11:38
Today's car hatred is insane. And the worst thing is the people who use the car to work and support these measures


Got to agree with you there, it's a pipedream .
Title: Re: Do you know how wide your car is?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 15 December 2021, 20:12:32
The way we profligately use power for everything cannot continue.

Nuclear is the ONLY way to GO! Everybody else is doing it (in europe) as we buy their electrickery from not so far away.
See Here!

https://gridwatch.co.uk/ (https://gridwatch.co.uk/)

I worked latterly on CCGT,s and nuclear as a fully qualified instrument engineer (DG will know what that is) but you can see which provides the most power for our needs at this moment. GAS AND OIL (Yea Yea) I know what you are going to retort!

Jock
The US seems to do reasonably well with Nuclear electricity production. (Apart from the lefty hotbed that is California which can't quite get by on renewables and hydro when it gets dark or doesn't rain for long enough...) Most of their gas consumption is industrial and their oil consumption is largely limited to transport. And until Sippy Cup had his first day, they were more or less energy sufficient.

Cooling ponds/lakes provide wildlife habitats and recreational areas. OK, there will be those who might disagree with flooding valleys to create the cooling reservoirs, but the concept could be suitably scaled down to suit the geography.
Title: Re: Do you know how wide your car is?
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 15 December 2021, 20:17:25
Today's car hatred is insane. And the worst thing is the people who use the car to work and support these measures


Got to agree with you there, it's a pipedream .

What the upper classes who can afford electric cars want is the “common- working class”:people have to go back onto their bicycles and onto buses as they, the toffs, move about freely, back to like it was during the first part of the 20th century.

Am I being cynical and not being fair?  Maybe, but who is helping most of us to easily obtain the save the planet vehicles and have the charging points required?  No one in the current government that’s for sure! :-X
Title: Re: Do you know how wide your car is?
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 15 December 2021, 20:24:29
The way we profligately use power for everything cannot continue.

Nuclear is the ONLY way to GO! Everybody else is doing it (in europe) as we buy their electrickery from not so far away.
See Here!

https://gridwatch.co.uk/ (https://gridwatch.co.uk/)

I worked latterly on CCGT,s and nuclear as a fully qualified instrument engineer (DG will know what that is) but you can see which provides the most power for our needs at this moment. GAS AND OIL (Yea Yea) I know what you are going to retort!

Jock

I watched an interesting news item that explained how there is a big rush on to be the first to develop mini reactors that will, over the next few years, be ready to provide a plentiful supply of “cheap electricity”.  Great if this can become a reality, but I remember that phrase of “cheap electricity” being used in the 1960’s :D ;)
Title: Re: Do you know how wide your car is?
Post by: Drewomega on 15 December 2021, 20:25:08
Last post probably in the wrong topic!  ::)
So admins move if necessary.  ;D :y
Title: Re: Do you know how wide your car is?
Post by: Drewomega on 15 December 2021, 20:40:34
Yes Lizzie, but then the 'mini' reactors are the size of a couple of football fields!
They are better than what we have got at the moment.
Nuclear has gone waaaaay ahead since our outdated 1950/60's technology and much safer.
Not in this country though!

CCGT's can run on oil and gas. Jet engines basically.
Thank you Mr Whittle!

J
Title: Re: Do you know how wide your car is?
Post by: olm on 15 December 2021, 20:56:40
Today's car hatred is insane. And the worst thing is the people who use the car to work and support these measures


Got to agree with you there, it's a pipedream .

What the upper classes who can afford electric cars want is the “common- working class”:people have to go back onto their bicycles and onto buses as they, the toffs, move about freely, back to like it was during the first part of the 20th century.

Am I being cynical and not being fair?  Maybe, but who is helping most of us to easily obtain the save the planet vehicles and have the charging points required?  No one in the current government that’s for sure! :-X

That's how it is . The funny thing is how it becomes clear that living like a poor person is cool
Title: Re: Do you know how wide your car is?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 15 December 2021, 21:14:37
Yes Lizzie, but then the 'mini' reactors are the size of a couple of football fields!
They are better than what we have got at the moment.
Nuclear has gone waaaaay ahead since our outdated 1950/60's technology and much safer.
Not in this country though!

CCGT's can run on oil and gas. Jet engines basically.
Thank you Mr Whittle!

J
The RB211 will be around long after any aircraft powered by them 8)

Non afterburner Olympus too...
Title: Re: Do you know how wide your car is?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 15 December 2021, 21:38:08
Yes Lizzie, but then the 'mini' reactors are the size of a couple of football fields!
They are better than what we have got at the moment.
Nuclear has gone waaaaay ahead since our outdated 1950/60's technology and much safer.
Not in this country though!

CCGT's can run on oil and gas. Jet engines basically.
Thank you Mr Whittle!

J

This is all well and good as long as we can obtain the oil and gas to fuel the things.  ::)

It seems our current crop of idiots 'in charge' are happy to leave our own supplies in the ground and import what we need.  >:(
Title: Re: Do you know how wide your car is?
Post by: Varche on 15 December 2021, 21:56:47
The way we profligately use power for everything cannot continue.

Nuclear is the ONLY way to GO! Everybody else is doing it (in europe) as we buy their electrickery from not so far away.
See Here!

https://gridwatch.co.uk/ (https://gridwatch.co.uk/)

I worked latterly on CCGT,s and nuclear as a fully qualified instrument engineer (DG will know what that is) but you can see which provides the most power for our needs at this moment. GAS AND OIL (Yea Yea) I know what you are going to retort!

Jock

I watched an interesting news item that explained how there is a big rush on to be the first to develop mini reactors that will, over the next few years, be ready to provide a plentiful supply of “cheap electricity”.  Great if this can become a reality, but I remember that phrase of “cheap electricity” being used in the 1960’s :D ;)

Should be easy enough already. Nuclear sub technology.
Title: Re: Do you know how wide your car is?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 15 December 2021, 21:59:39
If it is not flight critical they'll run on veg oil.

The latest green fuels are at the commercial testing phase. Just need to start harvesting seaweed or get the vegetablists to eat less soya.
Title: Re: Do you know how wide your car is?
Post by: Drewomega on 15 December 2021, 22:22:06
Correct DG!  :y The RB211 will be around long after any aircraft powered by them 8)

Non afterburner Olympus too...


Most of my work was with GE Tornados and Typhoons, ALL aerodirivatives. RR and Siemens not so much so.
Loved it!

Jock. (not PC)
Title: Re: Do you know how wide your car is?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 15 December 2021, 23:05:27
If it is not flight critical they'll run on veg oil.

The latest green fuels are at the commercial testing phase. Just need to start harvesting seaweed or get the vegetablists to eat less soya.

That's a shit load of seaweed to keep the power stations running!  ::)  ;D
Title: Re: Do you know how wide your car is?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 15 December 2021, 23:49:23
Develop proteins to break down plastic molecularly and the seaweed will be a bonus ;)
Title: Re: Do you know how wide your car is?
Post by: Raeturbo on 16 December 2021, 01:51:26
Yes Lizzie, but then the 'mini' reactors are the size of a couple of football fields!
They are better than what we have got at the moment.
Nuclear has gone waaaaay ahead since our outdated 1950/60's technology and much safer.
Not in this country though!

CCGT's can run on oil and gas. Jet engines basically.
Thank you Mr Whittle!

J
The RB211 will be around long after any aircraft powered by them 8)

Non afterburner Olympus too...


                  I dare say the GE LM2500 as fitted to the Queen Mary too :y
                 
Title: Re: Do you know how wide your car is?
Post by: TheBoy on 16 December 2021, 10:22:50
Is CCGT gas turbines?
Title: Re: Do you know how wide your car is?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 16 December 2021, 10:37:14
Is CCGT gas turbines?

Yes Combined Cycle Gas Turbine  :y
Title: Re: Do you know how wide your car is?
Post by: TheBoy on 16 December 2021, 10:47:43
Is CCGT gas turbines?

Yes Combined Cycle Gas Turbine  :y
Ta :y
Title: Re: Do you know how wide your car is?
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 16 December 2021, 12:36:58
Yes Lizzie, but then the 'mini' reactors are the size of a couple of football fields!
They are better than what we have got at the moment.
Nuclear has gone waaaaay ahead since our outdated 1950/60's technology and much safer.
Not in this country though!

CCGT's can run on oil and gas. Jet engines basically.
Thank you Mr Whittle!

J

Maybe once covered in a building but the basic concept is a good one and it is smaller than existing nuclear power stations.

This is from the Rolls Royce brouchure on their product:  Be so compact (16 metres high and 4 metres in diameter) it
can be transported by truck, train or even barge.
• Sit within a power station that would be roughly five
and half times the size of the pitch at Wembley, which is
just one-tenth the size of a typical large-scale reactor site
(40,000m2 vs 400,000m2).
• Take just 5 years from the start of construction to the
generation of the first electricity.
• Be up and running by 2028, maximising the UK’s
first-mover advantage in the race for exports.
• Minimise operating costs such as refuelling and the burden
of decommissioning


See:  https://www.rolls-royce.com/~/media/Files/R/Rolls-Royce/documents/customers/nuclear/smr-brochure-july-2017.pdf

 ;)
Title: Re: Do you know how wide your car is?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 16 December 2021, 12:54:59
Yes Lizzie, but then the 'mini' reactors are the size of a couple of football fields!
They are better than what we have got at the moment.
Nuclear has gone waaaaay ahead since our outdated 1950/60's technology and much safer.
Not in this country though!

CCGT's can run on oil and gas. Jet engines basically.
Thank you Mr Whittle!

J
The RB211 will be around long after any aircraft powered by them 8)

Non afterburner Olympus too...


                  I dare say the GE LM2500 as fitted to the Queen Mary too :y
               

The marine RB211 (Wr-21) will be around for ages, its fitted in the Type 45 (and has been a disaster, mainly thanks to intercooler design issues!)
Title: Re: Do you know how wide your car is?
Post by: Raeturbo on 16 December 2021, 15:22:29
GE LM2500 no probs on Queen Mary yet.