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Title: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: STEMO on 09 March 2022, 16:55:01
Wifey has the equivalent of a full class of children off, and four staff, in one of her schools.  :-\
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: dave the builder on 09 March 2022, 17:16:33
It's not "over" ,just no one talks about it anymore  .
the MOT station I use is shut with Covid and a good friend needed a paramedic out (difficulty breathing but hospital said don't come here  ??? ) in the last few days .

60 thousand plus confirmed with a test cases per day (175 thousand new cases from ZOE data)  ,2.2 million currently infected in the UK

chicken pox is doing the rounds too apparently 

Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: redelitev6 on 09 March 2022, 17:24:09
The war in Ukraine is more exciting than covid , bet Boris is glad of the diversion , no one gives a shyate what Dominic Cummings is saying now , # busted flush ?
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 09 March 2022, 17:27:34
The war in Ukraine is more exciting than covid , bet Boris is glad of the diversion , no one gives a shyate what Dominic Cummings is saying now , # busted flush ?

Yes, it is all very interesting as I was one who believed Buffoon Boris was finished.  But like Thatcher he appears to have been saved by a war!  Not only saved, but he has now taken on the stance of a Churchill in his talk and even walk!

And Churchill’s political career was saved by war!

Wonder if he has taken up the large cigars, brandy and working in the bath? ::) ::) ;)
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Rangie on 09 March 2022, 17:30:26
Our neighbours across the way from us both have it, no way has it gone.
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: YZ250 on 09 March 2022, 17:35:17
The war in Ukraine is more exciting than covid , bet Boris is glad of the diversion , no one gives a shyate what Dominic Cummings is saying now , # busted flush ?

Yes, it is all very interesting as I was one who believed Buffoon Boris was finished.  But like Thatcher he appears to have been saved by a war!  Not only saved, but he has now taken on the stance of a Churchill in his talk and even walk!

And Churchill’s political career was saved by war!

Wonder if he has taken up the large cigars, brandy and working in the bath? ::) ::) ;)

That's a disgusting habit........ Oh sorry, I've just put my glasses on and see it says 'working'.  ::)
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 09 March 2022, 17:37:09
The war in Ukraine is more exciting than covid , bet Boris is glad of the diversion , no one gives a shyate what Dominic Cummings is saying now , # busted flush ?

Yes, it is all very interesting as I was one who believed Buffoon Boris was finished.  But like Thatcher he appears to have been saved by a war!  Not only saved, but he has now taken on the stance of a Churchill in his talk and even walk!

And Churchill’s political career was saved by war!

Wonder if he has taken up the large cigars, brandy and working in the bath? ::) ::) ;)

That's a disgusting habit........ Oh sorry, I've just put my glasses on and see it says 'working'.  ::)

 ;D ;D ;D :y
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 09 March 2022, 18:36:05
Wifey has the equivalent of a full class of children off, and four staff, in one of her schools.  :-\

You've started DTB off again. ::) ::)

You know what he is like. :-X :)
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 09 March 2022, 18:49:34
Talking to a nurse today, Rotherham is copeing well with Covid but apparently quite an outbreak at Barnsley and the hospital have stopped visitors. :-\
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: STEMO on 09 March 2022, 18:50:07
Talking to a nurse today, Rotherham is copeing well with Covid but apparently quite an outbreak at Barnsley and the hospital have stopped visitors. :-\
Yes, been like that since last week.
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 09 March 2022, 18:58:54
Talking to a nurse today, Rotherham is copeing well with Covid but apparently quite an outbreak at Barnsley and the hospital have stopped visitors. :-\

I do hope you are not dressing up as a doctor again, Skruntie.

You've been warned about this sort of thing before...... :D :D :) ;)
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Keith ABS on 09 March 2022, 19:15:49
 My DIL is now just out of the isolation period after getting it from unknown source in Sleaford
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Raeturbo on 09 March 2022, 19:21:26
Think I caught it in Liverpool mild symptoms except pretty Ill on one day, had it for four days all clear after five days back in work on the seventh. Wife had it too she was worse than me and was Ill   
For two weeks.
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: STEMO on 09 March 2022, 19:39:14
Think I caught it in Liverpool mild symptoms except pretty Ill on one day, had it for four days all clear after five days back in work on the seventh. Wife had it too she was worse than me and was Ill   
For two weeks.
Women, eh?  Always got to go one better  ;D
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Raeturbo on 09 March 2022, 19:40:02
😂
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 09 March 2022, 20:02:29
Talking to a nurse today, Rotherham is copeing well with Covid but apparently quite an outbreak at Barnsley and the hospital have stopped visitors. :-\

I do hope you are not dressing up as a doctor again, Skruntie.

You've been warned about this sort of thing before...... :D :D :) ;)

Not at all, but if a lady dressed up as a Nun for me it could be fun.   ::)
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 09 March 2022, 21:19:25
Last time I tested was when I returned from Milan.

No legal obligation to test or isolate. Anyone off with it may as well have a cold or flu... Oh wait... :-X
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: STEMO on 09 March 2022, 21:31:44
Last time I tested was when I returned from Milan.

No legal obligation to test or isolate. Anyone off with it may as well have a cold or flu... Oh wait... :-X
What happened to  ::) ::) ::)
Have you fell out with him and taken up with  :-X :-X :-X

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 09 March 2022, 21:37:16
 >:(

 :D :P
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: ronnyd on 11 March 2022, 17:19:45
Hang on to your hats, there's another variation rearing it's head now. Been dubbed Deltacrom. So far rare. Sorry no linky.
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: STEMO on 11 March 2022, 17:25:53
Hmmm.....can't say I expected this:

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 11 March 2022, 17:38:10
On the radio today they quoted a 1 in 3000 chance of death. Hardly the same odds as escaping Russian bombs but about the same as seasonal flu, apparently.

I really hope we don't give in to another bout of hyperventilation and hibernation. :-X

Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 11 March 2022, 17:42:19
Talking to a nurse today, Rotherham is copeing well with Covid but apparently quite an outbreak at Barnsley and the hospital have stopped visitors. :-\

I do hope you are not dressing up as a doctor again, Skruntie.

You've been warned about this sort of thing before...... :D :D :) ;)

Not at all, but if a lady dressed up as a Nun for me it could be fun.   ::)

I'll send a stripper dressed as a nun around for your birthday. You can fill your boots. :y

PS.....would you like the stripper to be male or female? ::) ::)

Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: STEMO on 11 March 2022, 17:44:35
Talking to a nurse today, Rotherham is copeing well with Covid but apparently quite an outbreak at Barnsley and the hospital have stopped visitors. :-\

I do hope you are not dressing up as a doctor again, Skruntie.

You've been warned about this sort of thing before...... :D :D :) ;)

Not at all, but if a lady dressed up as a Nun for me it could be fun.   ::)

I'll send a stripper dressed as a nun around for your birthday. You can fill your boots. :y

PS.....would you like the stripper to be male or female? ::) ::)
There are many more than two choices.
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: TheBoy on 11 March 2022, 19:08:25
Loads of people I know now seem to have it now, unsurprisingly.  The majority of these are people who have previously managed to avoid it.

On the upside, its still Omicron that's dominant, and that's about as potent as President Biden.

Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: redelitev6 on 13 March 2022, 11:05:33
Loads of people I know now seem to have it now, unsurprisingly.  The majority of these are people who have previously managed to avoid it.

On the upside, its still Omicron that's dominant, and that's about as potent as President Biden.
I had a bit of a sore throat , turns out it was Omicron , if that's as bad as it gets I'm not complaining
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Rangie on 13 March 2022, 11:46:07
Our neighbours wife is really quite bad with it he's recovered fully now but still limiting his going out & seeing family, quite unusual seeing neither of their vehicles not moving as they are always out & about. I think I may of had it in January /February 2020 as I had a really bad cough which wouldn't shift.
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 13 March 2022, 12:31:04
Our neighbours wife is really quite bad with it he's recovered fully now but still limiting his going out & seeing family, quite unusual seeing neither of their vehicles not moving as they are always out & about. I think I may of had it in January /February 2020 as I had a really bad cough which wouldn't shift.

Yes it arrived on our shores much earlier than people realise.

A mate had a nasty bout of the flu in January 2020 and he's never ill, tough as old boots but it wiped him out for a week or two.  I completely lost my sense of taste in February 2020 about a week after I'd been on a course for a few days in a hotel at Heathrow where there are people from all over the world milling about.
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: addy on 13 March 2022, 12:41:06
I proved positive Wednesday. Felt rough before that, coughing liked I smoke like a chimney(i don't smoke) aching body and feeling as in a heatwave. It appears that my misses brought it home, from a club she goes too. It is starting to clear, just a bit of a cough left. Rang the Drs to cancel a appointment, I had a few days later. The receptionist said "congratulations on winning the booby prize"
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 17 March 2022, 11:53:59
Caes seem to be going through the roof again. Dont see much in the way of updates on hospitalisations and deaths any more though.
Its dropped completely off the news agenda.
Vettell is out of the Grand Prix this weekend after testing positive.
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 17 March 2022, 13:04:56
Caes seem to be going through the roof again. Dont see much in the way of updates on hospitalisations and deaths any more though.
Its dropped completely off the news agenda.
Vettell is out of the Grand Prix this weekend after testing positive.

One less for young Max to lap. ;)
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Varche on 17 March 2022, 13:20:47
Just been talking to a friend in Midlands who is off wrk sick with Covid. Bit worse than a sniffle.

Funny as she works in retail and managed to avoid getting it over the last two years

Plenty of cases here in Spain too. Less testing equals less apparent cases.
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: dave the builder on 17 March 2022, 13:56:46
Caes seem to be going through the roof again. Dont see much in the way of updates on hospitalisations and deaths any more though.
Its dropped completely off the news agenda.

cases confirmed with a test up 50%
hospitalisations up 21%
death figures are no longer relevant ,it's easy to keep a patient alive 28 days with new treatments,
 but long term effects of COVID will have a serious effect to some people .

From ZOE study .....
 
people are currently predicted to have symptomatic COVID in the UK =2,807,072

so that's either a lot of people off work sick , or at work spreading COVID  :P

come the 1st April ,when tests are chargeable , no one will bother testing ,so we just won't know what's going on  :(



 
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 17 March 2022, 14:23:24
Caes seem to be going through the roof again. Dont see much in the way of updates on hospitalisations and deaths any more though.
Its dropped completely off the news agenda.

cases confirmed with a test up 50%
hospitalisations up 21%
death figures are no longer relevant ,it's easy to keep a patient alive 28 days with new treatments,
 but long term effects of COVID will have a serious effect to some people .

From ZOE study .....
 
people are currently predicted to have symptomatic COVID in the UK =2,807,072

so that's either a lot of people off work sick , or at work spreading COVID  :P

come the 1st April ,when tests are chargeable , no one will bother testing ,so we just won't know what's going on  :(

Which is a good thing!  ;D
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: STEMO on 17 March 2022, 14:29:25
Caes seem to be going through the roof again. Dont see much in the way of updates on hospitalisations and deaths any more though.
Its dropped completely off the news agenda.

cases confirmed with a test up 50%
hospitalisations up 21%
death figures are no longer relevant ,it's easy to keep a patient alive 28 days with new treatments,
 but long term effects of COVID will have a serious effect to some people .

From ZOE study .....
 
people are currently predicted to have symptomatic COVID in the UK =2,807,072

so that's either a lot of people off work sick , or at work spreading COVID  :P

come the 1st April ,when tests are chargeable , no one will bother testing ,so we just won't know what's going on  :(

Which is a good thing!  ;D
There'll be lots of sites where we can find figures ranging from one death per week to one hundred thousand deaths per week, and I know someone who'll find them  ;D
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: STEMO on 17 March 2022, 14:32:11
Then there's these ones:

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/?utm_campaign=homeAdvegas1?%22%20%5Cl%20%22countries
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: STEMO on 17 March 2022, 14:32:56
I notice booster jabs are stuck around 67%
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: dave the builder on 17 March 2022, 14:41:17
Caes seem to be going through the roof again. Dont see much in the way of updates on hospitalisations and deaths any more though.
Its dropped completely off the news agenda.

cases confirmed with a test up 50%
hospitalisations up 21%
death figures are no longer relevant ,it's easy to keep a patient alive 28 days with new treatments,
 but long term effects of COVID will have a serious effect to some people .

From ZOE study .....
 
people are currently predicted to have symptomatic COVID in the UK =2,807,072

so that's either a lot of people off work sick , or at work spreading COVID  :P

come the 1st April ,when tests are chargeable , no one will bother testing ,so we just won't know what's going on  :(

Which is a good thing!  ;D
There'll be lots of sites where we can find figures ranging from one death per week to one hundred thousand deaths per week, and I know someone who'll find them  ;D
I'm not interested in Australian aboriginal deaths or how little Covid is not spreading through the American Armish comunities or other obscure figures though  :D
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 17 March 2022, 16:08:24
Caes seem to be going through the roof again. Dont see much in the way of updates on hospitalisations and deaths any more though.
Its dropped completely off the news agenda.

cases confirmed with a test up 50%
hospitalisations up 21%
death figures are no longer relevant ,it's easy to keep a patient alive 28 days with new treatments,
 but long term effects of COVID will have a serious effect to some people .

From ZOE study .....
 
people are currently predicted to have symptomatic COVID in the UK =2,807,072

so that's either a lot of people off work sick , or at work spreading COVID  :P

come the 1st April ,when tests are chargeable , no one will bother testing ,so we just won't know what's going on  :(

Hypochondriacs will have to pay.

Hardly fair is it. ::) ::) ::) ;)
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: STEMO on 17 March 2022, 16:49:25
I'm a hypochondriac, but only with regards to cancer. So far, this year, I've had cancer of the bowels, stomach, spine and mouth  ;D
When I tell my missus I don't feel too good, she asks where the cancer has moved to, sarky cow :( One day I'll be right, you just wait....... :)
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 17 March 2022, 18:34:13
I'm a hypochondriac, but only with regards to cancer. So far, this year, I've had cancer of the bowels, stomach, spine and mouth  ;D
When I tell my missus I don't feel too good, she asks where the cancer has moved to, sarky cow :( One day I'll be right, you just wait....... :)

It'll be liver cancer......but don't dwell on it. :)

My Grandfather had it and within a month he was in a box. Age 69.
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 17 March 2022, 19:00:05
I'm a hypochondriac, but only with regards to cancer. So far, this year, I've had cancer of the bowels, stomach, spine and mouth  ;D
When I tell my missus I don't feel too good, she asks where the cancer has moved to, sarky cow :( One day I'll be right, you just wait....... :)

It'll be liver cancer......but don't dwell on it. :)

My Grandfather had it and within a month he was in a box. Age 69.

Yep this one gets you quick.  :(

My Dad found out he had it and was gone in 6 weeks. Age 53.  :'(
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: STEMO on 17 March 2022, 19:18:53
Our kid was diagnosed with liver cancer 12 months ago. He's still alive, just.
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: STEMO on 22 March 2022, 21:28:33
Another 500 odd deaths and America will hit the magic million  :(
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 23 March 2022, 13:12:42
I notice booster jabs are stuck around 67%

I'm one of the 33%.

Time for your 4th jab now. Open to all over 75's like yourself. :)
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: STEMO on 23 March 2022, 18:07:07
Our kid was diagnosed with liver cancer 12 months ago. He's still alive, just.
Cancel that.
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: dave the builder on 23 March 2022, 18:21:46
Our kid was diagnosed with liver cancer 12 months ago. He's still alive, just.
Cancel that.
Really sorry to hear that Uncle Stemo  :(
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: STEMO on 23 March 2022, 18:27:05
Our kid was diagnosed with liver cancer 12 months ago. He's still alive, just.
Cancel that.
Really sorry to hear that Uncle Stemo  :(
Thanks, Dave, been expecting it for a while and kind of got used to the idea. Can't pretend we were close, hadn't seen him for years. Poor mother will take it quite badly, I expect.
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: dave the builder on 23 March 2022, 18:36:46
Our kid was diagnosed with liver cancer 12 months ago. He's still alive, just.
Cancel that.
Really sorry to hear that Uncle Stemo  :(
Thanks, Dave, been expecting it for a while and kind of got used to the idea. Can't pretend we were close, hadn't seen him for years. Poor mother will take it quite badly, I expect.
Oh dear , A mother doesn't expect to loose a Son ,so they say .
though not pleasant for any of the family and friends .
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: BazaJT on 23 March 2022, 19:38:20
Sorry to hear of your loss Stemo my condolences to your family.Close family or not it's never a pleasant thing to lose a member of it.
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 23 March 2022, 19:49:54
Sorry to see your sad news about your bro Uncle STEMO.  :(
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: STEMO on 23 March 2022, 20:16:16
Thanks guys  :-*
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: STEMO on 23 March 2022, 21:19:51
Another 500 odd deaths and America will hit the magic million  :(
1,000,355. That's a lot of dead people and, probably, an underestimation.
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Raeturbo on 24 March 2022, 00:46:51
Rip for your bro Stemo
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Rangie on 24 March 2022, 08:00:55
Sorry to read about your brother Steve, may he Rest in peace.
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: henryd on 24 March 2022, 09:34:12
Sorry for your loss Steve, thoughts with you :'(
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Andy B on 24 March 2022, 10:17:15
sorry for your loss Steve  :'(
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: ronnyd on 24 March 2022, 10:49:49
Whether you get on with a sibling or not, it's always a hole left when one passes. Sorry for your loss Steve.
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: STEMO on 24 March 2022, 11:11:52
Thank you, all  :y
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 24 March 2022, 19:54:33
Sorry for sad loss Steve my condolences to you & your family.
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 25 March 2022, 13:00:05
I have just read this very sad news Steve, so sorry for your and families awful loss and may your brother live in peace with God. :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 25 March 2022, 15:50:35
Difficult to know what to say without sounding twee or clichéd.

Hopefully since his diagnosis, you've all had time to come to terms with his diagnosis and were able to put any history to the past and can find some consolation that his suffering has ended.
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 09 April 2022, 15:07:54
Son came to stay yesterday to prepare for his wedding tomorrow. He has a runny nose today so did a Covid test just in case.
Its positive !  :o
Wife is clinically highly vulnerable, so is more than a little concerned.  :(
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: dave the builder on 09 April 2022, 17:42:04
Son came to stay yesterday to prepare for his wedding tomorrow. He has a runny nose today so did a Covid test just in case.
Its positive !  :o
Wife is clinically highly vulnerable, so is more than a little concerned.  :(
4.5 million with symptomatic covid in the UK (Zoe study) so Covid is everywhere albeit mild variants .
your Son should have done a test BEFORE visiting a clinically highly vulnerable person ,tests are only £2.50
BUT , as your wife will be attending the wedding ? with many people, singing possibly ,transmission is inevitable
If she has had all her jabs .it's highly unlikely to make her seriously ill .
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Rangie on 09 April 2022, 18:03:55
According to Boris in todays paper he is not ruling out another lockdown , it definitely hasn't gone away..
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 09 April 2022, 18:08:10
My neighbours both tested positive after going to a grandchild's birthday party. He's in his seventies and she's in her sixties, both have health issues and both felt mildly ill.

She was told to go into hospital ASAP where she was hooked up to a drip with one of the new anti viral drugs for a few hours and said she quickly felt better.  :y
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 09 April 2022, 18:23:27
My neighbours both tested positive after going to a grandchild's birthday party. He's in his seventies and she's in her sixties, both have health issues and both felt mildly ill.

She was told to go into hospital ASAP where she was hooked up to a drip with one of the new anti viral drugs for a few hours and said she quickly felt better.  :y
How it should be dealt with.  :y

A lock down would serve no purpose than to minimise diesel shortages and otherwise kill the economy.
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: dave the builder on 09 April 2022, 18:29:37
According to Boris in todays paper he is not ruling out another lockdown , it definitely hasn't gone away..
another lockdown won't happen
The government will just introduce an "if you go out tax" instead  :P
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 09 April 2022, 18:36:04
Meanwhile in Shanghai!  ::)

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1512713451587710977.html
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 09 April 2022, 18:39:16
I'm surprised that they bothered to cart them away... Perhaps away from the media they have resumed culling the building.

One question from that propoganda piece...

If they cannot get their own deliveries, how can the possibly receive someone else's  ???
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Rangie on 09 April 2022, 18:44:18
According to Boris in todays paper he is not ruling out another lockdown , it definitely hasn't gone away..
another lockdown won't happen
The government will just introduce an "if you go out tax" instead  :P
.

I'm really not bothered one way or the other lockdown or no lockdown we've got our routine and will just carry on as we have been doing, but feel for folk with young families mortgages etc very unpredictable times I think the " Going out tax" is already here for some.
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 11 April 2022, 10:17:14
Meanwhile in Shanghai Part 2.  :o

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1512471322051366929.html

Be warned there are some disturbing images in this thread and as it comes from Twitter you have to wonder whether it's all true or not.  :-\

There are 25 million people under a strict lockdown in Shanghai, with reports of food supplies running out, officials killing dogs and cats, people being dragged off to 'quarantine camps' and suicides. You get the drift.   ::)

Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 11 April 2022, 10:44:49
Total population of Shanghai is 28.5 million... Presumably 3.5 million work for the government  :-\

If that piece is only half true, then they may as well nuke the place and say 'Oops'.  :-\
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 11 April 2022, 11:58:25
Total population of Shanghai is 28.5 million... Presumably 3.5 million work for the government  :-\

If that piece is only half true, then they may as well nuke the place and say 'Oops'.  :-\

There's probably some districts of Shanghai that are not under the strict stay at home lockdown, but it seems the vast majority of the city is.  ;)

Crazy...
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 11 April 2022, 12:28:46
Either TCV didn't work, or they like the idea of control...

At least Vlad had the foresight to turn Tinterwebs off ::)
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: TheBoy on 11 April 2022, 19:15:41
Total population of Shanghai is 28.5 million... Presumably 3.5 million work for the government  :-\

If that piece is only half true, then they may as well nuke the place and say 'Oops'.  :-\
As Sir Tim says, not all of Shanghai is locked down, though most of it is.

China have a zero covid policy.  One could argue that's harsh, and possibly fruitless.  But I'm sure they will argue that burying your head in the sand as Boris is just leaves your arse exposed for butt oppsing.
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 11 April 2022, 19:41:57
Is that the same China that claims to have 8% of the number of active cases in Honduras*?

I think you'll find their 'zero covid' policy means that they will admit to zero cases...

*279,000 active cases in a population of 10,100,000 vs 22,500 cases in a population of 1,450,000,000.

That's some maths that simply doesn't add up. Shanghai has absolutely nothing to do with Covid.  :-X
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Raeturbo on 11 April 2022, 21:34:20
I agree that point with the good doctor👍
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: TheBoy on 12 April 2022, 10:47:37
Shanghai has absolutely nothing to do with Covid.  :-X
Not even the Chink government is that stupid.

Let me read my copy of Conspiracy Today or flick on GB News ;D
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 12 April 2022, 10:54:40
Shanghai has absolutely nothing to do with Covid.  :-X
Not even the Chink government is that stupid.

Let me read my copy of Conspiracy Today or flick on GB News ;D
Stupid? Perhaps not, but arrogant enough? Quite possibly.

I suspect that they are about to find out what 25 million pissed off hungry people looks like. And it won't be pretty.
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: TheBoy on 12 April 2022, 12:17:20
In fairness to the Chinks, the fact that providing food parcels for 25m residents, albeit with some issues, is bloody impressive.

Can you imagine the UK civil service managing to do it?
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: STEMO on 12 April 2022, 12:22:13
In fairness to the Chinks, the fact that providing food parcels for 25m residents, albeit with some issues, is bloody impressive.

Can you imagine the UK civil service managing to do it?
The problem is.....they're not

https://news.sky.com/video/shanghai-unrest-over-lockdown-rules-12587915
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: TheBoy on 12 April 2022, 13:23:02
In fairness to the Chinks, the fact that providing food parcels for 25m residents, albeit with some issues, is bloody impressive.

Can you imagine the UK civil service managing to do it?
The problem is.....they're not

https://news.sky.com/video/shanghai-unrest-over-lockdown-rules-12587915
From what I can gather through word-of-mouth contacts (rather than social cancer), its not as bad as the evil western media are trying to make out, although there are issues.  That said, who knows the reality of what is being allowed through the Great Firewall.
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: STEMO on 12 April 2022, 14:14:23
In fairness to the Chinks, the fact that providing food parcels for 25m residents, albeit with some issues, is bloody impressive.

Can you imagine the UK civil service managing to do it?
The problem is.....they're not

https://news.sky.com/video/shanghai-unrest-over-lockdown-rules-12587915
From what I can gather through word-of-mouth contacts (rather than social cancer), its not as bad as the evil western media are trying to make out, although there are issues.  That said, who knows the reality of what is being allowed through the Great Firewall.
As you know, China is not quite as liberal as the uk. Dissenters may well disappear into the ether, never to be seen again  ;D
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 12 April 2022, 19:01:50
In fairness to the Chinks, the fact that providing food parcels for 25m residents, albeit with some issues, is bloody impressive.

Can you imagine the UK civil service managing to do it?
The problem is.....they're not

https://news.sky.com/video/shanghai-unrest-over-lockdown-rules-12587915
From what I can gather through word-of-mouth contacts (rather than social cancer), its not as bad as the evil western media are trying to make out, although there are issues.  That said, who knows the reality of what is being allowed through the Great Firewall.
Unless Sky have started using Faceachebook as a source, it has made mainstream media...

It stands to reason that if people were able to go shopping, the stocks would be better managed than trying to deliver to individuals.

Also, looking at the state of the container port, if they don't get their shit together soon, then they kill their economy in fairly short order.

Either way, the numbers don't stack up.
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: STEMO on 12 April 2022, 19:03:28
In fairness to the Chinks, the fact that providing food parcels for 25m residents, albeit with some issues, is bloody impressive.

Can you imagine the UK civil service managing to do it?
The problem is.....they're not

https://news.sky.com/video/shanghai-unrest-over-lockdown-rules-12587915
From what I can gather through word-of-mouth contacts (rather than social cancer), its not as bad as the evil western media are trying to make out, although there are issues.  That said, who knows the reality of what is being allowed through the Great Firewall.
Unless Sky have started using Faceachebook as a source, it has made mainstream media...

It stands to reason that if people were able to go shopping, the stocks would be better managed than trying to deliver to individuals.

Also, looking at the state of the container port, if they don't get their shit together soon, then they kill their economy in fairly short order.

Either way, the numbers don't stack up.
The bodies might, though.
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 12 April 2022, 19:14:15
No might about it.

Don't expect Shanghai to be hosting the Olympics anytime soon though.

25,000,000 will take some clearing up.
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: TheBoy on 12 April 2022, 19:23:11
It stands to reason that if people were able to go shopping, the stocks would be better managed than trying to deliver to individuals.
It also stands to reason that, if you have decided on a zero covid policy (rightly or wrongly), then you can't have people going out.
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 12 April 2022, 19:25:12
It stands to reason that if people were able to go shopping, the stocks would be better managed than trying to deliver to individuals.
It also stands to reason that, if you have decided on a zero covid policy (rightly or wrongly), then you can't have people going out.
Even if you starve them into oblivion?

Obviously the Chinese have a few people to spare, so if it's for the greater good, then they can probably justify internally.
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: STEMO on 12 April 2022, 19:31:57
Even if the Chinese government wanted to back down, they can't. Because they are never wrong.
They can never let people see a chink in their armour  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: TheBoy on 12 April 2022, 19:40:04
It stands to reason that if people were able to go shopping, the stocks would be better managed than trying to deliver to individuals.
It also stands to reason that, if you have decided on a zero covid policy (rightly or wrongly), then you can't have people going out.
Even if you starve them into oblivion?

Obviously the Chinese have a few people to spare, so if it's for the greater good, then they can probably justify internally.
I tend to ignore Sky and BBC News, because they are one and the same really, with certain agendas.

It would appear, as said, whilst there are logistical issues getting enough supplies to all areas, 25m people aren't starving.  Now, it ain't a utopia, but it aint armageddon.



But its given me an idea for how to achieve the mass cull when I'm voted in...
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: STEMO on 12 April 2022, 19:42:27
It stands to reason that if people were able to go shopping, the stocks would be better managed than trying to deliver to individuals.
It also stands to reason that, if you have decided on a zero covid policy (rightly or wrongly), then you can't have people going out.
Even if you starve them into oblivion?

Obviously the Chinese have a few people to spare, so if it's for the greater good, then they can probably justify internally.
I tend to ignore Sky and BBC News, because they are one and the same really, with certain agendas.

It would appear, as said, whilst there are logistical issues getting enough supplies to all areas, 25m people aren't starving.  Now, it ain't a utopia, but it aint armageddon.



But its given me an idea for how to achieve the mass cull when I'm voted in...
A climbdown, of sorts  ;D
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 12 April 2022, 20:24:04
It stands to reason that if people were able to go shopping, the stocks would be better managed than trying to deliver to individuals.
It also stands to reason that, if you have decided on a zero covid policy (rightly or wrongly), then you can't have people going out.
Even if you starve them into oblivion?

Obviously the Chinese have a few people to spare, so if it's for the greater good, then they can probably justify internally.

Dead people can't catch or spread Covid.  :)
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 12 April 2022, 20:50:14
It stands to reason that if people were able to go shopping, the stocks would be better managed than trying to deliver to individuals.
It also stands to reason that, if you have decided on a zero covid policy (rightly or wrongly), then you can't have people going out.
Even if you starve them into oblivion?

Obviously the Chinese have a few people to spare, so if it's for the greater good, then they can probably justify internally.

Dead people can't catch or spread Covid.  :)
Perhaps not, but kill that many? Just to prove a point...

And the alleged infection rate is increasing in the face of the lock downs. Ergo the Lockdowns don't work.

Across China, infected people recover at a rate of 97 to 3. ie 97% recover. That's across the population of 1,450,000,000 and from the start of this nonsense and not just across one city in the last fortnight. And that's if you genuinely believe that they have only had 166,000 cases in the last two plus years.

The vast majority of cases are asymptomatic, and they probably have a reasonable level of immunity, ergo, the response makes zero sense.
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 12 April 2022, 21:04:54
It stands to reason that if people were able to go shopping, the stocks would be better managed than trying to deliver to individuals.
It also stands to reason that, if you have decided on a zero covid policy (rightly or wrongly), then you can't have people going out.
Even if you starve them into oblivion?

Obviously the Chinese have a few people to spare, so if it's for the greater good, then they can probably justify internally.

Dead people can't catch or spread Covid.  :)
Perhaps not, but kill that many? Just to prove a point...

And the alleged infection rate is increasing in the face of the lock downs. Ergo the Lockdowns don't work.

Across China, infected people recover at a rate of 97 to 3. ie 97% recover. That's across the population of 1,450,000,000 and from the start of this nonsense and not just across one city in the last fortnight. And that's if you genuinely believe that they have only had 166,000 cases in the last two plus years.

The vast majority of cases are asymptomatic, and they probably have a reasonable level of immunity, ergo, the response makes zero sense.

They did it before with the Great Leap Forward, so why not?  ???

I think you think that President Xi and the CCP actually care about the people of China.  :-\  ::)
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 12 April 2022, 21:08:58
No illusions there :)

It’s unfortunate that the people concerned aren't allowed to have an opinion on the matter.
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: STEMO on 12 April 2022, 21:15:20
No illusions there :)

It’s unfortunate that the people concerned aren't allowed to have an opinion on the matter.
They never were.
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 12 April 2022, 22:13:30
No illusions there :)

It’s unfortunate that the people concerned aren't allowed to have an opinion on the matter.
They never were.

And probably never will either.
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 13 April 2022, 16:23:01
Well, I now have it. >:(
Ive been testing regularly since the wedding on sunday, and been feeling increasingly rough. Todays test was a clear positive.
Supposed to work 5 shifts in the next 6 days but wont be doing any of them.
Nearly 14 years in the job and not one day off sick until now.  :(
Swmbo is still resting negative, but she doesnt feel great, so I expect her to test positive in the next day or two.
Fickin chinkys.  ::)
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 13 April 2022, 16:33:38
It stands to reason that if people were able to go shopping, the stocks would be better managed than trying to deliver to individuals.
It also stands to reason that, if you have decided on a zero covid policy (rightly or wrongly), then you can't have people going out.
Even if you starve them into oblivion?

Obviously the Chinese have a few people to spare, so if it's for the greater good, then they can probably justify internally.
I tend to ignore Sky and BBC News, because they are one and the same really, with certain agendas.

It would appear, as said, whilst there are logistical issues getting enough supplies to all areas, 25m people aren't starving.  Now, it ain't a utopia, but it aint armageddon.



But its given me an idea for how to achieve the mass cull when I'm voted in...

Voted in.... :o :o :o

You're supposed to be a dictator. ;D
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: STEMO on 13 April 2022, 16:51:23
Well, I now have it. >:(
Ive been testing regularly since the wedding on sunday, and been feeling increasingly rough. Todays test was a clear positive.
Supposed to work 5 shifts in the next 6 days but wont be doing any of them.
Nearly 14 years in the job and not one day off sick until now.  :(
Swmbo is still resting negative, but she doesnt feel great, so I expect her to test positive in the next day or two.
Fickin chinkys.  ::)
I'm sure you'll be fine, Albs, but I'm a bit concerned about your good lady. She's been through a lot  :(
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 13 April 2022, 17:22:53
Two things.

Expect to spend 2-4 days in bed asleep.

Don't test. Once you feel better, return to work*.

My aunt and uncle, both in their seventies, had it and she was still testing positive two weeks later and the test result became all consuming. Once you feel better, you won't be contagious, so don't waste any time worrying about it.

*Obviously, if SWMBO requires looking after then that takes priority.

Top up on vitamins, especially D, and remember that chicken soup cures everything :y
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Rangie on 13 April 2022, 18:27:56
Take care of yourself & SWMBO it seems to affect everybody differently, nearly everyone in our road has had it  ( except us ) & some are still suffering from the after effects especially those with underlying medical conditions, I really think we have avoided it due to our daily exercise routine, could be right could be wrong but  we are both fastly approaching 70 so try to keep as fit as possible.
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 13 April 2022, 18:39:01
Swmbo has a nurse come every couple of months to inject her with very strong immunosuppressant medication, so she is highly vulnerable.
Suprisingly though, so far, her symptoms arent as bad as mine and she is still testing negative.
I hope it continues that way.
Im wearing a N95 mask indoors at the moment and sleeping in the spare room, until were sure one way or the other.
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 13 April 2022, 18:43:55
Two things.

Expect to spend 2-4 days in bed asleep.

Don't test. Once you feel better, return to work*.

My aunt and uncle, both in their seventies, had it and she was still testing positive two weeks later and the test result became all consuming. Once you feel better, you won't be contagious, so don't waste any time worrying about it.

*Obviously, if SWMBO requires looking after then that takes priority.

Top up on vitamins, especially D, and remember that chicken soup cures everything :y

Jewish penicillin. :y
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 13 April 2022, 18:47:45
I have no idea if I have had it.

Only tested once and that was by order of the NHS because I was going for an endoscopy.

Pretty sure my wife had it but than again she is something of a malingerer so I just told her to 'man up' ;) :D
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 14 April 2022, 00:36:21
At which point you needed to buy a new laptop... ::)
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 14 April 2022, 10:16:48
I seem to be feeling quite a bit better this morning. If thats as bad as its going to get, I consider myself lucky.
God bless the people who invented the vaccines.  :)
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 14 April 2022, 12:54:07
I seem to be feeling quite a bit better this morning. If thats as bad as its going to get, I consider myself lucky.
God bless the people who invented the vaccines.  :)
Amen to that.

Certainly I have had worse.
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Varche on 22 April 2022, 08:02:16
Shanghai in its fifth week of lockdown. Proper lockdown - not like our European version.

Over 400,000 official cases and 36 deaths. The latter in apparently elderly unvaccinated with underlying conditions.

Conspiracy theorists could have a field day.

Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: dave the builder on 22 April 2022, 10:30:45
Shanghai in its fifth week of lockdown. Proper lockdown - not like our European version.

Over 400,000 official cases and 36 deaths. The latter in apparently elderly unvaccinated with underlying conditions.

Conspiracy theorists could have a field day.


Conspiracy theorists could read something in the 1154 UK deaths in the last 2 days that go unmentioned too  :-X
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 22 April 2022, 10:32:29
Shanghai in its fifth week of lockdown. Proper lockdown - not like our European version.

Over 400,000 official cases and 36 deaths. The latter in apparently elderly unvaccinated with underlying conditions.

Conspiracy theorists could have a field day.
God alone knows where you're getting your figures from ???

https://www.google.com/search?q=Chinese+covid+figures&oq=Chinese+covid+figures&aqs=chrome..69i57.17903j0j7&client=ms-android-sonymobile&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

Your guesstimate looks to be 362,000 over the declared amount in Shanghai so far. The whole of China is reported to have had anything from 166k to 684k cases since December 2019 (depending on who you ask).

Given the size of the population, that is suspiciously low, but even so, shutting 25-30 million people inside is pretty much guaranteed to make sure that they catch by the thousand given their living arrangements.

A little more sangria and a lot less Faceachebook  ;)
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 22 April 2022, 10:34:04
Shanghai in its fifth week of lockdown. Proper lockdown - not like our European version.

Over 400,000 official cases and 36 deaths. The latter in apparently elderly unvaccinated with underlying conditions.

Conspiracy theorists could have a field day.


Conspiracy theorists could read something in the 1154 UK deaths in the last 2 days that go unmentioned too  :-X
Does the Channel count?
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: dave the builder on 22 April 2022, 10:38:30
Shanghai in its fifth week of lockdown. Proper lockdown - not like our European version.

Over 400,000 official cases and 36 deaths. The latter in apparently elderly unvaccinated with underlying conditions.

Conspiracy theorists could have a field day.


Conspiracy theorists could read something in the 1154 UK deaths in the last 2 days that go unmentioned too  :-X
Does the Channel count?
Why would it  :-\ I said UK deaths ,not the IIIST deaths
( international illegal imigrant swimming team )
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 22 April 2022, 10:50:55
But surely they all have TCV?
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: TheBoy on 22 April 2022, 11:48:01
Conspiracy theorists could read something in the 1154 UK deaths in the last 2 days that go unmentioned too  :-X
That must be false news, because its all over, and any remaining sniffles couldn't possibly be serious enough to keep people from going into work and spreading it further...
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: dave the builder on 22 April 2022, 13:51:57
Conspiracy theorists could read something in the 1154 UK deaths in the last 2 days that go unmentioned too  :-X
That must be false news, because its all over, and any remaining sniffles couldn't possibly be serious enough to keep people from going into work and spreading it further...
"fake news" in that we don't have accurate figures perhaps  :D
ONS says.....
 960 deaths registered in the seven days to April 8 mentioned Covid-19 on the death certificate,
192,322 deaths have now occurred in the UK where Covid-19 was mentioned on the death certificate,
9 in 10 deaths with Covid-19 on the death certificate since the start of the pandemic have coronavirus as the primary cause of death.

the people i know who have tested positive recently have stayed off work ,but people only test when they get symptoms and are ill (except medical care ext )

Zoe study says 3,636,412 people are currently predicted to have symptomatic COVID in the UK

so it's probably not quite over just yet  :D

Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 22 April 2022, 15:12:11
Im still testing positive after 11 days, although feel ok. :(
Wife is getting over it but not quite there yet.
I was due to work days this weekend to cover a bloke who hasnt had a weekend off since he started the job in early December.
Had to cancel that. Feel bad about it but nothing I can do.
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 22 April 2022, 15:28:56
Did Zoe happen to mention how many people currently have hay-fever...  ::)
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: dave the builder on 22 April 2022, 15:30:00
Im still testing positive after 11 days, although feel ok. :(
Wife is getting over it but not quite there yet.
I was due to work days this weekend to cover a bloke who hasnt had a weekend off since he started the job in early December.
Had to cancel that. Feel bad about it but nothing I can do.
The important thing is you are both on the mend  :)
you can return to work even if you test positive ,if you have recovered ,feel well enough ,
but if your good lady needs help still then that is your priority ,
work and money will always be available when you are both well again
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 22 April 2022, 17:50:43
Good lady doesnt really need help now. Just feels a bit under the weather.
My concern about returning to work is passing it on to other people. May well go back Monday, but go in late after everyone else has gone home.
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 22 April 2022, 18:49:26
I believe that it is similar to colds etc, where you're only infectious in the first few days. Once you are over it, then you're good to go :y

If testing negative were so important, they wouldn't have drawn the line at the sooner of ten days or two negative tests on day 5/6 ;)
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Varche on 22 April 2022, 20:31:06
Shanghai in its fifth week of lockdown. Proper lockdown - not like our European version.

Over 400,000 official cases and 36 deaths. The latter in apparently elderly unvaccinated with underlying conditions.

Conspiracy theorists could have a field day.
God alone knows where you're getting your figures from ???

BIG SIGH . You are very very quick to dispute figures and anything anyone else posts. Never mind the reality.. I don’t use Facebook . Here is anEnglish  language site with similar figures. Apology accepted though historically this will not be offered. Never mind you are keyboard warrior king.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-61137649

Oh sorry it is the bbc . Left wing, woke etc etc so dis redt .


Cheeky bastard


Your guesstimate looks to be 362,000 over the declared amount in Shanghai so far. The whole of China is reported to have had anything from 166k to 684k cases since December 2019 (depending on who you ask).

Given the size of the population, that is suspiciously low, but even so, shutting 25-30 million people inside is pretty much guaranteed to make sure that they catch by the thousand given their living arrangements.

A little more sangria and a lot less Faceachebook  ;)
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Shackeng on 22 April 2022, 20:55:02
Our kid was diagnosed with liver cancer 12 months ago. He's still alive, just.
Cancel that.

Just caught up with this Steve. Very sorry for your loss.
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: STEMO on 22 April 2022, 21:50:00
Our kid was diagnosed with liver cancer 12 months ago. He's still alive, just.
Cancel that.

Just caught up with this Steve. Very sorry for your loss.
You have had your own problems, Chris, much bigger than mine I would suggest.
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 23 April 2022, 06:48:09
Shanghai in its fifth week of lockdown. Proper lockdown - not like our European version.

Over 400,000 official cases and 36 deaths. The latter in apparently elderly unvaccinated with underlying conditions.

Conspiracy theorists could have a field day.
God alone knows where you're getting your figures from ???

BIG SIGH . You are very very quick to dispute figures and anything anyone else posts. Never mind the reality.. I don’t use Facebook . Here is anEnglish  language site with similar figures. Apology accepted though historically this will not be offered. Never mind you are keyboard warrior king.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-61137649

Oh sorry it is the bbc . Left wing, woke etc etc so dis redt .


Cheeky bastard


Your guesstimate looks to be 362,000 over the declared amount in Shanghai so far. The whole of China is reported to have had anything from 166k to 684k cases since December 2019 (depending on who you ask).

Given the size of the population, that is suspiciously low, but even so, shutting 25-30 million people inside is pretty much guaranteed to make sure that they catch by the thousand given their living arrangements.

A little more sangria and a lot less Faceachebook  ;)
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/china/

Obviously China doesn't publish actual data because 200,000 total cases that it claims since the end of 2019 is a long way removed from the suggested 400,000 cases in one city this month ???

https://www.google.com/search?q=Chinese+covid+figures&oq=chinese&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j69i57j0i512j0i131i433i457i512j0i402l2j0i512j0i433i512.2790j0j7&client=ms-android-sonymobile&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

Suggests a mere 38,000 cases in Shanghai with 32 whole deaths.

So either the BBC are getting creative with their reporting or the official numbers aren't accurate.

I can apologies for suggesting that you made up the 400,000 figure if that would help, but exaggerating the official figures by a factor of ten is nothing more than scaremongering nonsense.
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: TheBoy on 23 April 2022, 17:23:20
9 in 10 deaths with Covid-19 on the death certificate since the start of the pandemic have coronavirus as the primary cause of death.
No, Doc Gollum and friends said all Covid deaths were caused by people getting knocked down by a bus....
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: TheBoy on 23 April 2022, 17:27:35
If testing negative were so important, they wouldn't have drawn the line at the sooner of ten days or two negative tests on day 5/6 ;)
Because the government had other things they were trying to keep out of the news.
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: BazaJT on 23 April 2022, 19:05:25
How did that work out for them? ;D
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 24 April 2022, 19:03:24
9 in 10 deaths with Covid-19 on the death certificate since the start of the pandemic have coronavirus as the primary cause of death.
No, Doc Gollum and friends said all Covid deaths were caused by people getting knocked down by a bus....
Arguably far more fatal than a dose of TCV...
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: STEMO on 24 April 2022, 19:21:51
A new virus will be along shortly and we can do this again. In preparation, I am stocking up on bog rolls and face masks.
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: dave the builder on 24 April 2022, 20:28:01
A new virus will be along shortly and we can do this again. In preparation, I am stocking up on bog rolls and face masks.
Putin's nukes will kill the next Virus  ;)
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 24 April 2022, 21:25:31
A new virus will be along shortly and we can do this again. In preparation, I am stocking up on bog rolls and face masks.
Putin's nukes will kill the next Virus  ;)

Cheerful buggers ain't you?!  ;D
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 24 April 2022, 21:51:04
A new virus will be along shortly and we can do this again. In preparation, I am stocking up on bog rolls and face masks.
Putin's nukes will kill the next Virus  ;)
You're going to need a bigger mattress...
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: dave the builder on 25 April 2022, 18:34:19
A new virus will be along shortly and we can do this again. In preparation, I am stocking up on bog rolls and face masks.
Putin's nukes will kill the next Virus  ;)
You're going to need a bigger mattress...
Not really , 1000 ltr of water stored in the bed mattress but the bunker has far far more  ;)
now is the time to buy tin foil for hat making though , prices will be going right up
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: TheBoy on 25 April 2022, 18:55:57
9 in 10 deaths with Covid-19 on the death certificate since the start of the pandemic have coronavirus as the primary cause of death.
No, Doc Gollum and friends said all Covid deaths were caused by people getting knocked down by a bus....
Arguably far more fatal than a dose of TCV...
I would suggest that 6.2m families globally would disagree, and I bet there hasn't been 6.2m people killed in the last 2 years by a bus.

I know you enjoy figures, so for the UK only...
174,000 killed "with covid on the death cert" in the last 2 years
Taking the pre covid UK road deaths (because the figures are really low for last couple of years) is about 1800 a year - that's all road deaths, as I couldn't quickly find at "killed by a bus" stat.

So you are 50 times more likely to be killed by covid than you are to be killed on UK roads, let alone knocked down by a bus...


Is that definitive enough for you?
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 25 April 2022, 19:13:27
9 in 10 deaths with Covid-19 on the death certificate since the start of the pandemic have coronavirus as the primary cause of death.
No, Doc Gollum and friends said all Covid deaths were caused by people getting knocked down by a bus....
Arguably far more fatal than a dose of TCV...
I would suggest that 6.2m families globally would disagree, and I bet there hasn't been 6.2m people killed in the last 2 years by a bus.

I know you enjoy figures, so for the UK only...
174,000 killed "with covid on the death cert" in the last 2 years
Taking the pre covid UK road deaths (because the figures are really low for last couple of years) is about 1800 a year - that's all road deaths, as I couldn't quickly find at "killed by a bus" stat.

So you are 50 times more likely to be killed by covid than you are to be killed on UK roads, let alone knocked down by a bus...


Is that definitive enough for you?

Can you definitely tell us how many of these were killed by a bus within 28 days of a positive covid test?   :D
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 25 April 2022, 20:54:44
The whole point of the 'hit by a Bus' concept was to make the observation that dying within 28 days of a positive test regardless of actual cause does not a Covid death make.

How many of those 174,000 died waiting for treatment and caught Covid in hospital for unrelated issues?

Apparently 172,200 if you exclude being hit by a bus.  ::)
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: STEMO on 25 April 2022, 21:07:36
Why does any of this matter? Apart from some pathetic point scoring. Some people seem to forget that what we say or think really doesn't matter in the great scheme of things, the powers that be will do what they think is right, that's why we voted to make them the powers that be.
I hope that covid, or TCV for those of us that make up daft acronyms, will disappear eventually. But, if not, expect more countermeasures, like them or not.
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: TheBoy on 26 April 2022, 11:45:49
The whole point of the 'hit by a Bus' concept was to make the observation that dying within 28 days of a positive test regardless of actual cause does not a Covid death make.

How many of those 174,000 died waiting for treatment and caught Covid in hospital for unrelated issues?

Apparently 172,200 if you exclude being hit by a bus.  ::)
According to ONS, at least 9 in 10 of those "deaths within 28 days of a covid positive" are categorically caused by the person catching the virus and it killing them.  I'm sure you can do the maths, and don't need me to tell you that is at least 156,600 people in the UK directly killed by catching this.


Sadly, I know a good handful  :'(
Title: Re: I thought this covid lark was finished
Post by: TheBoy on 26 April 2022, 11:53:01
I hope that covid, or TCV for those of us that make up daft acronyms, will disappear eventually. But, if not, expect more countermeasures, like them or not.
I think we all know the chinky sniffle is here to stay.  Different regimes are trying different tactics - the UK is now all about herd immunity* with probably annual/6 monthly jabs, the Chinese are trying the squash it as it arises.

At least in the UK, the vast majority of people just fell a bit unwell if they catch it. But lets not forget there are thousands who seem to struggle getting over it for months and months, and quite a lot of people are still dying.  Despite the fact its all over.




*probably more likely anything that seems a good news story, as lockdowns, lockdown parties, cost of living and the mess of brexit means the government are desperate to the point of cavalier to get some good press.