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Title: Sunaks
Post by: Varche on 08 April 2022, 21:49:49
Oops. One rule for the rich and another for you plebs.

Don’t think that has done much for his chances of succeeding Boris.
Title: Re: Sunaks
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 08 April 2022, 22:36:21
The knives are out for Mr & Mrs Sunak that's for sure!  ::)

As far as I can tell she did nothing wrong or illegal, and quite sensibly organised her business affairs to reduce her tax exposure, which everyone should do.  :y
Title: Re: Sunaks
Post by: Varche on 08 April 2022, 22:42:09
I think you might need to read up on

Non domiciled at £30 k a year payment on the understanding you intend to live in India.

Ditto on US green card declaring US to be “ your forever home”

Plenty of rich people avoid paying tax in the country they live in by fairly legit means. Not many are running that countries finances.

Anyway, it is alright now. His wife is going to pay her uk dues now it has come to public notice.
Title: Re: Sunaks
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 08 April 2022, 23:00:11
Stop watching the news.

She has done nothing that any self respecting person of means does not already do. Legally.

And there is nothing to suggest that she has ever used her husbands position for personal gain, nor that she needs to. Her subsequent actions, following on from the benevolence of media tosh, Should be viewed as a genuine gesture rather than stemming from convenience.

If anything she had been doing previously was illegal then, one could reasonably conclude that she would have not been doing it.

The wealthy, buy and large, do not seek to be sanctioned or fined as it usually costs significantly more than the savings.

Essentially, buy buying citizenship and/or residency status, you are prepaying any taxation requirements in that country. Obviously places like the US, UK or EU expect you to pay appropriate taxes on any income you earn in that country, but there are many more places that won't.

Basically if offshore accounts were illegal, they wouldn't be readily available.

Unless you are a Russian oligarch whose sole purpose to launder money for the Kremlin. Obviously.
Title: Re: Sunaks
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 08 April 2022, 23:14:18
Your all missing the point. Its nothing to do with right or wrong. Its politics.
Rishi wants Boris,s job, so disappeared from view when all the other ministers were trying to support Boris when the partygate scandal broke.
Now Boris and the number 10 machine are shafting Rishi.
Its a good thing in the grand scheme of things because the thought of Rishi as PM fills me with dread.
One of these days he is going to rip his mask of and Gordon Brown will be under it.
Title: Re: Sunaks
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 08 April 2022, 23:29:58
Your all missing the point. Its nothing to do with right or wrong. Its politics.
Rishi wants Boris,s job, so disappeared from view when all the other ministers were trying to support Boris when the partygate scandal broke.
Now Boris and the number 10 machine are shafting Rishi.
Its a good thing in the grand scheme of things because the thought of Rishi as PM fills me with dread.
One of these days he is going to rip his mask of and Gordon Brown will be under it.
He wouldn't fit... Fingers are too fat.
Title: Re: Sunaks
Post by: TheBoy on 09 April 2022, 11:08:01
Again the media are trying to sensationalise something that's completely legal and above board.

I suspect many of these reporters have perfectly legal tax reduction schemes, but they don't report that....
Title: Re: Sunaks
Post by: Rangie on 09 April 2022, 14:30:08
They will without doubt have excellent financial guidance , bloody good luck to them I know I'd do exactly the same in their position all this stirring the shit is becoming tiresome.

Title: Re: Sunaks
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 09 April 2022, 14:42:43
Is it legal?......Apparently so

Would I take advantage of a loophole to pay less tax?......Absolutely. I'd jump at it.

Is it a good look or give a good impression when your husband is Chancellor and tax is rising for everyone else?.......Nope.


In summary. Do it but expect some people to be pissed. :)

Title: Re: Sunaks
Post by: STEMO on 09 April 2022, 14:48:38
Comin over ere, takin our chancellors jobs......
Title: Re: Sunaks
Post by: Nick W on 09 April 2022, 17:36:48
Oops. One rule for the rich and another for you plebs.

Don’t think that has done much for his chances of succeeding Boris.


look at it again:
he's an ambitious man who married a multi-millionaire who has managed to avoid paying UK taxes by claiming residence elsewhere. That sounds like an ideal CV for a modern Tory.
Title: Re: Sunaks
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 09 April 2022, 19:43:16
And the Labour party might not survive if it wasnt for the £ millions in donations it recieves from Non Doms.  ;)
Title: Re: Sunaks
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 09 April 2022, 19:49:52
And the Labour party might not survive if it wasnt for the £ millions in donations it recieves from Non Doms and Union subs  ;)
Party donations should be illegal.
Title: Re: Sunaks
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 09 April 2022, 19:55:16
Posted an hour ago

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/rishi-sunak-moves-out-downing-26676236?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=mirror_main&fbclid=IwAR07Cnk7bqpIzB7Uni9G2hsn7GuG3Q_GiepjFDtt8gQKU46td1dwh9vpKBg
Title: Re: Sunaks
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 09 April 2022, 20:39:58
You've gotta love the Mirror.  ;D

The PM goes on a walkabout in Kyiv with President Zelensky and the Mirror's lead story is a removal van moving a few sticks of furniture out of the flat at No10!  ::)  ;D
Title: Re: Sunaks
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 10 April 2022, 13:15:48
And the Labour party might not survive if it wasnt for the £ millions in donations it recieves from Non Doms.  ;)

Yes....correct me if I am wrong but I believe Non-Dom status as a tax loophole was active during the 1997-2010 Blair/Brown years, and was probably in place before that.

Politicians...... :D ;D ;D

Not exactly such when it first became 'a thing' though.

Title: Re: Sunaks
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 10 April 2022, 13:28:32
And the Labour party might not survive if it wasnt for the £ millions in donations it recieves from Non Doms.  ;)

Yes....correct me if I am wrong but I believe Non-Dom status as a tax loophole was active during the 1997-2010 Blair/Brown years, and was probably in place before that.

Politicians...... :D ;D ;D

Not exactly such when it first became 'a thing' though.


Oh....it looks like it dates back to 1799 and Pitt the younger. :)



Title: Re: Sunaks
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 10 April 2022, 13:50:46
No doubt Mr's Sunak's accountants are doing some nifty tax planning right now to limit her exposure to UK and Indian taxes, and the green eyed leftie monsters will get all outraged down the line that she routed money through the Cayman Islands or somewhere perfectly legally to reduce her taxes.  ::)
Title: Re: Sunaks
Post by: STEMO on 10 April 2022, 14:38:39
Whatever her (or his) tax status, I wouldn't vote for a Tory party with him as leader. Jumped up little twa t.
Title: Re: Sunaks
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 10 April 2022, 14:42:09
Whatever her (or his) tax status, I wouldn't vote for a Tory party with him as leader. Jumped up little twa t.

Apparently he is unusually small. Almost like a photocopier set to 2/3 size. :)
Title: Re: Sunaks
Post by: ronnyd on 10 April 2022, 16:05:43
His surname sounds more like an expletive.
Title: Re: Sunaks
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 10 April 2022, 16:51:00
He reminds me of Roland Rat, so his voice is always a surprise  :D
Title: Re: Sunaks
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 10 April 2022, 16:54:44
He reminds me of Roland Rat, so his voice is always a surprise  :D

Now you mention it........ :D ;D
Title: Re: Sunaks
Post by: raywilb on 10 April 2022, 17:47:10
You've gotta love the Mirror.  ;D

The PM goes on a walkabout in Kyiv with President Zelensky and the Mirror's lead story is a removal van moving a few sticks of furniture out of the flat at No10!  ::)  ;D
probably going to make room for a number of Ukranian refugees & he will qualify for the monthly allowance.
Title: Re: Sunaks
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 10 April 2022, 18:07:38
You've gotta love the Mirror.  ;D

The PM goes on a walkabout in Kyiv with President Zelensky and the Mirror's lead story is a removal van moving a few sticks of furniture out of the flat at No10!  ::)  ;D
probably going to make room for a number of Ukranian refugees & he will qualify for the monthly allowance.

£350 I believe?   Is that tax free?  ???  :)
Title: Re: Sunaks
Post by: Rangie on 10 April 2022, 18:10:20
What amazes me about Mr Sunak he's got all that dosh & doesn't seem to have a pair of trousers that are long enough " flying at half mast" was the term used when I was a kid.
Title: Re: Sunaks
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 10 April 2022, 18:19:01
What amazes me about Mr Sunak he's got all that dosh & doesn't seem to have a pair of trousers that are long enough " flying at half mast" was the term used when I was a kid.

I thought that was a zipper reference.......much like " the cage is open but luckily the beast is asleep" :)
Title: Re: Sunaks
Post by: Rangie on 10 April 2022, 18:57:08
No nothing to do with zips, his trousers are too short looks ridiculous, I'm afraid after all my years in various uniforms I notice things like that immediately, should organise himself a decent tailor.
Title: Re: Sunaks
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 10 April 2022, 19:21:24
No nothing to do with zips, his trousers are too short looks ridiculous, I'm afraid after all my years in various uniforms I notice things like that immediately, should organise himself a decent tailor.

He may not have the money.... ;) :D
Title: Re: Sunaks
Post by: Varche on 10 April 2022, 19:25:36
What amazes me about Mr Sunak he's got all that dosh & doesn't seem to have a pair of trousers that are long enough " flying at half mast" was the term used when I was a kid.

They used to prompt “ who has died?” A reference to inheriting someones trousers.
Title: Re: Sunaks
Post by: STEMO on 10 April 2022, 19:27:12
What amazes me about Mr Sunak he's got all that dosh & doesn't seem to have a pair of trousers that are long enough " flying at half mast" was the term used when I was a kid.

They used to prompt “ who has died?” A reference to inheriting someones trousers.
No....the trousers were flying at 'half mast' as Mick quoted. Flags fly at half mast when someone dies.
Title: Re: Sunaks
Post by: Varche on 10 April 2022, 19:30:51
That would be West Yorkshire. Proper Yorkshire ( North Riding) who has died?  is correct. You inherited them. Just a matter of less than 100 miles.
Title: Re: Sunaks
Post by: STEMO on 10 April 2022, 19:33:57
That would be West Yorkshire. Proper Yorkshire ( North Riding) who has died?  is correct. You inherited them. Just a matter of less than 100 miles.
No.......it might have been misinterpreted or misunderstood by Yorkshire yokels, but Micks post was correct.
I notice people now say they are 'spitting feathers' when they are angry, but we all know it means you are thirsty.
Title: Re: Sunaks
Post by: STEMO on 10 April 2022, 19:36:12
Sayings and phrases and language in general is bastardised all the time, including using Americanisms. But we should be old enough to know better.
Title: Re: Sunaks
Post by: STEMO on 10 April 2022, 19:38:30
https://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/43/messages/723.html
Title: Re: Sunaks
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 10 April 2022, 19:49:40
I do apologise for my lack of knowledge. ;) :D
Title: Re: Sunaks
Post by: STEMO on 10 April 2022, 19:53:27
I do apologise for my lack of knowledge. ;) :D
I'm well used to it, old boy  :)
Title: Re: Sunaks
Post by: Varche on 10 April 2022, 20:36:27
No you are now in a big hole. Head east towards the font and you get this.

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THE traditional Northern schoolyard insult ‘Has your cat died?’ has been named the most incomprehensible in human history.

Used to indicate that a person’s trousers are too short, the insult has only rarely been understood by anyone and never without explanation.

Linguist Dr Helen Archer said: “It’s a complex chain of illogic to follow, even for adults. I’ll take you through it.

“Firstly, the insult posits that the victim has a cat. More than two-thirds get lost right there because they haven’t, but go with it. Second, it assumes that cat has recently died.

“Third, and here’s where it gets abstract, it suggests there is a hitherto unknown funerary ritual for said pet requiring the owner to wear their trousers at half-mast, as a ship would fly a flag.

“To require someone to hypothesize an entire set of feline mourning rituals of the Northern tribes is too much for an insult. This is the playground. They could’ve just said ‘wankhands’.”

54-year-old Roy Hobbs said: “I was hit with ‘has your cat died?’ in the spring of 1979. I just got it, last year

Go further East and you get nearer the truth.
Title: Re: Sunaks
Post by: STEMO on 10 April 2022, 21:07:32
Dear me, such twaddle.
Title: Re: Sunaks
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 10 April 2022, 21:12:35
If it is on the Interwebs it must be true. Probably.
Title: Re: Sunaks
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 10 April 2022, 21:29:03
(https://i.postimg.cc/1XPTDgZ2/boris-sun.png)

From today's Sunday Times.   :)
Title: Re: Sunaks
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 11 April 2022, 13:08:03
New trousers shouldn't cost little Rishi too much. He can buy them from the boys section.
Title: Re: Sunaks
Post by: Nick W on 11 April 2022, 13:14:44
New trousers shouldn't cost little Rishi too much. He can buy them from the boys section.


Which will give him a nice warm feeling from saving some tax.