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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: Sir Tigger KC on 20 April 2022, 09:40:54

Title: Self Driving Cars
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 20 April 2022, 09:40:54
Apparently the Highway Code will be amended to allow people to watch TV/films, surf the internet read emails etc while their self driving car carries them from A to B.  :)

Apparently the use of mobile phones will still be prohibited because it may be a distraction!  ???  ;D
Title: Re: Self Driving Cars
Post by: TheBoy on 20 April 2022, 09:46:46
I just heard that.  The bloke was trying to justify it by saying if it wasn't allowed, the "driver" would fall asleep.


Still, I think most drivers currently update arsebook or watch an episode of celebrity love shagging whilst driving anyway.
Title: Re: Self Driving Cars
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 20 April 2022, 10:53:52
Been involved in the electronics for the controllers for such things for a little while, requires mulitple monster processors, stacks of sensors, warning devices etc.

For me, self driving cars are not something I personally am interested, I quite enjoy driving!

Yet you speak to the ADAS team and they think its a major selling point.
Title: Re: Self Driving Cars
Post by: Andy B on 20 April 2022, 11:01:46
Been involved in the electronics for the controllers for such things for a little while, requires mulitple monster processors, stacks of sensors, warning devices etc. .....

 .... that no one will be able to fix if there's a fault some time in the future  ::)
Title: Re: Self Driving Cars
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 20 April 2022, 11:11:02
Been involved in the electronics for the controllers for such things for a little while, requires mulitple monster processors, stacks of sensors, warning devices etc. .....

 .... that no one will be able to fix if there's a fault some time in the future  ::)

Shouldn't be an issue, as they are actually the easier type of item of diagnose.....part availability and price though is another thing (although most sensors are just cameras, Lidar, radar etc)  :y
Title: Re: Self Driving Cars
Post by: TheBoy on 20 April 2022, 11:13:03
Been involved in the electronics for the controllers for such things for a little while, requires mulitple monster processors, stacks of sensors, warning devices etc.
All of which will make demands on limited electrical power in the future...

For me, self driving cars are not something I personally am interested, I quite enjoy driving!
Great! I need a lift to Gatwick, then a lift back about a week later ;D

Yet you speak to the ADAS team and they think its a major selling point.
Look how the US Tesla buyers usually tick the box for full autopilot...
Title: Re: Self Driving Cars
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 20 April 2022, 11:15:16
Yet you speak to the ADAS team and they think its a major selling point.
Look how the US Tesla buyers usually tick the box for full autopilot...

Yes, then never use it !

I recall its about $10k on the car price and then a monthly subscription on top  ???
Title: Re: Self Driving Cars
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 20 April 2022, 12:44:17
Yet you speak to the ADAS team and they think its a major selling point.
Look how the US Tesla buyers usually tick the box for full autopilot...

Yes, then never use it !

I recall its about $10k on the car price and then a monthly subscription on top  ???
Either or from what I have seen. Although there have been issues with people paying for the subscription, then not being able to drive the car for months awaiting parts from unrelated work. Apparently Tesla customer service is about as good as Amazons.
Title: Re: Self Driving Cars
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 20 April 2022, 12:59:55
Apparently the Highway Code will be amended to allow people to watch TV/films, surf the internet read emails etc while their self driving car carries them from A to B.  :)

Apparently the use of mobile phones will still be prohibited because it may be a distraction!  ???  ;D

Is it April fools day .....again?
Title: Re: Self Driving Cars
Post by: STEMO on 20 April 2022, 15:44:42
I was always under the impression that the driver needed to pay full attention when in charge of one of these dodgems
Title: Re: Self Driving Cars
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 20 April 2022, 17:47:12
I was always under the impression that the driver needed to pay full attention when in charge of one of these dodgems

Depends on the automation level, at higher levels no. But the vehicle has to have multiple means of take control warning (e.g. seat shaker, visual and audible)
Title: Re: Self Driving Cars
Post by: STEMO on 20 April 2022, 17:51:25
I was always under the impression that the driver needed to pay full attention when in charge of one of these dodgems

Depends on the automation level, at higher levels no. But the vehicle has to have multiple means of take control warning (e.g. seat shaker, visual and audible)
I like the idea of a device that punches you in the face. Take it to your designers and sort it out  ;D
Title: Re: Self Driving Cars
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 20 April 2022, 18:18:20
So.  watching TV  will be ok, but you cant use a mobile phone  on the move (Aparently the same for a passenger from what i have seen on Social media)

You cant eat on the move.  as you have to have both hands on the wheel whilst drivng.  and you must be in control of the car at all times.

So , if the car is driving does that mean the passengers can enjoy a picnic whilt watching TV and then jump in the back and make out.



Personally I want to drive the car myself butthe safety aids could work well to avoid accidents & incidents especialy on long or late night journeys
Title: Re: Self Driving Cars
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 20 April 2022, 18:20:39
Apparently there was a post today where the police pulled over a car with a ligh out, and the car (Automatic driver mode) saw it was safe to drive off and leave the police officer stood in the middle of the road (Who gets the ticket?)
Title: Re: Self Driving Cars
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 20 April 2022, 18:22:00
Good for a night out at the pub, too much to drink, sit in the passenger set and let the car drive whilst you watch TV ::) :y
Title: Re: Self Driving Cars
Post by: Rangie on 20 April 2022, 18:53:58
So when the vehicle kills a pedestrian or another driver as undoubtedly it will eventually, who will be blamed the owner or the machine ?
Title: Re: Self Driving Cars
Post by: STEMO on 20 April 2022, 19:16:16
So when the vehicle kills a pedestrian or another driver as undoubtedly it will eventually, who will be blamed the owner or the machine ?
I think (which doesn't count for much, I know) that if you are in charge of a vehicle, you are culpable. If you borrow your mates car and get pulled for a light out/baldy tyre, you get the ticket because you are expected to make sure the car is in roadworthy condition before setting off.
You are/should be in charge of the car, not the other way round.
Title: Re: Self Driving Cars
Post by: Andy B on 20 April 2022, 19:23:13
Apparently there was a post today where the police pulled over a car with a ligh out, and the car (Automatic driver mode) saw it was safe to drive off and leave the police officer stood in the middle of the road (Who gets the ticket?)

apparently the car decided that there was a safer place to be than where the copper had pulled it over