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Title: So Hands Up.....
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 31 May 2022, 17:42:54
..... How many of you are still wearing a mask out and about?  ???

I haven't worn a mask for months now, but nothing wrong if you do.  After all there are a lot of folk out there with health conditions that clearly want to avoid catching a cold let alone Covid and believe that masks offer protection.  :)  I'm just curious that's all.  :y

Yesterday going into Tesco, I passed a woman in her late thirties with two kids, a boy and a girl both about 7 or 8 years old. The woman was wearing a gasmask type mask with two filters and both kids were wearing the neoprene masks with the little breathing hole/filter. The little lad was getting a bollocking from his Mum because he kept fiddling with his mask and taking it off etc.  ::)

I first thought that she was totally ridiculous, but did reflect that there might have been good reason for masking up like that.  :-\  I suspect though that she is in fact a ridiculous woman and is damaging her kids with her Covid paranoia!  ::)

Thoughts?  ???



Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 31 May 2022, 18:06:19
I still wear one.
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 31 May 2022, 18:32:07
Nope.....and never again.

We have to die of something. :)
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: STEMO on 31 May 2022, 18:32:54
I still wear one.
I believe the locals are very grateful, Albs  ;D
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 31 May 2022, 18:41:44
I still wear one.
I believe the locals are very grateful, Albs  ;D

Are you suggesting he is an ugly bastard? ::) ::) ::) ;)
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 31 May 2022, 18:44:37
If people (women mainly) are excessively ugly perhaps the wearing of masks should be made mandatory. ;D
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 31 May 2022, 18:45:14
Oh shit....but then I'd need to wear one. :-X :-\ ;D
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 31 May 2022, 18:52:04
I still wear one.
I believe the locals are very grateful, Albs  ;D

Funny you should say that.... ;D
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: Keith ABS on 31 May 2022, 19:23:44
 Is that why the muslim women have to wear Burkas then  Opti?
Asking as you are a man of the world
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 31 May 2022, 19:32:43
Is that why the muslim women have to wear Burkas then  Opti?
Asking as you are a man of the world

I think they are probably far more attractive than  a 'fat lass from Hull' ::) ::)

.....and us infidel are not allowed to gaze at their beauty. ;)
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: Olympia5776 on 31 May 2022, 22:13:59
I wear one at each and every opportunity , have hand sanitizer in all the vehicles and look for and use it upon entering every shop or public building I go into.
My wife has been in the Stroke Recovery Ward for two months after suffering three devastating strokes and I will not, and cannot ,risk being a carrier .
The ward has been closed to visiting twice in the time she has been in Hospital resulting in all visits being cancelled , which is a particularly difficult thing to have to bear . This was most likely due to it being brought in by visitors , including possibly me .
It's still out there and I now know what the personal results of it being transmitted by those that don't care anymore are .
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: STEMO on 31 May 2022, 22:20:59
I wear one at each and every opportunity , have hand sanitizer in all the vehicles and look for and use it upon entering every shop or public building I go into.
My wife has been in the Stroke Recovery Ward for two months after suffering three devastating strokes and I will not, and cannot ,risk being a carrier .
The ward has been closed to visiting twice in the time she has been in Hospital resulting in all visits being cancelled , which is a particularly difficult thing to have to bear . This was most likely due to it being brought in by visitors , including possibly me .
It's still out there and I now know what the personal results of it being transmitted by those that don't care anymore are .
So sorry to hear about your wife, Don, very sad.
My wife, out of the blue, commented the other day about how many people are still dying from covid. I think she came across the figures while skimming through the internet, and was quite shocked. It is definitely still out there but, I think, the powers that be have decided that they/we can't afford to pay it too much attention.
Once again, so very sorry for your wife.
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 31 May 2022, 22:29:17
I can only echo what Steve said Don. So sorry to hear this.
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 31 May 2022, 22:30:09
Sorry about your wife Don, that's awful.  :(
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: Olympia5776 on 31 May 2022, 22:47:40
Thanks Lads .
There have been some pretty dark days since early April.
It brought home to me the fragility of life and how quickly it can all change .
We planned retirement for years and she took early retirement last October .
It was all supposed to start this year but will now have to wait .
I just look for small , very small , improvements as often as possible and hope for the best .
I say this in all sincerity , reach out to your wife or partner , give her a big cuddle and tell her you love her , because ..........

 
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 01 June 2022, 04:29:57
98% of passengers through T5 don't bother.

Including those getting their CDC mandated pre departure tests on the way to check in...  :-X
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: Varche on 01 June 2022, 08:02:08
I would say it is about fifty fifty here in Spain. More with masks in shops than without.

You still see folk on their own in a modern car, wearing a mask.

It is the hayfever season so that might be skewing the situation as sufferers always used to wear masks outdoors before Covid.
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: Rangie on 01 June 2022, 08:13:01
Thanks Lads .
There have been some pretty dark days since early April.
It brought home to me the fragility of life and how quickly it can all change .
We planned retirement for years and she took early retirement last October .
It was all supposed to start this year but will now have to wait .
I just look for small , very small , improvements as often as possible and hope for the best .
I say this in all sincerity , reach out to your wife or partner , give her a big cuddle and tell her you love her , because ..........



Very sorry to read about your wife Don,we count our blessings each day, life can be so unfair to some folk who have worked all their lives and make plans for their retirement & have it snatched away in an instant , pray that she makes a full recovery. We both still wear our masks in supermarkets etc
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: Olympia5776 on 01 June 2022, 13:14:42
Thanks Lads .
There have been some pretty dark days since early April.
It brought home to me the fragility of life and how quickly it can all change .
We planned retirement for years and she took early retirement last October .
It was all supposed to start this year but will now have to wait .
I just look for small , very small , improvements as often as possible and hope for the best .
I say this in all sincerity , reach out to your wife or partner , give her a big cuddle and tell her you love her , because ..........



Very sorry to read about your wife Don,we count our blessings each day, life can be so unfair to some folk who have worked all their lives and make plans for their retirement & have it snatched away in an instant , pray that she makes a full recovery. We both still wear our masks in supermarkets etc

Thank you .... :y
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: ronnyd on 01 June 2022, 18:52:54
Sorry to hear that Olympia. We never know what is around the corner for any of us. Hope things improve for your good lady mate.
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: BazaJT on 01 June 2022, 19:51:11
Best wishes to your good lady[and yourself of course]for her recovery.Stroke recovery can be a very slow process especially at the beginning with the occasional surge in improvement,but the human brain is an incredibly adaptable thing with such as learning to write with the "wrong" hand being seemingly easily achievable.Not being able to speak and/or not recognizing people is common at the beginning but both those abilities normally return fairly quickly.Take each day as it comes,some days there will be perhaps a tiny improvement,some a greater one and some days no improvement at all but it's all part of the process so if no improvement is seen for a while it doesn't mean nothing is happening,just that the brain is adapting to the latest improvements and "updating" for a better way of putting it.
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: STEMO on 01 June 2022, 20:30:59
Not wishing to steer the thread away (much), I've been feeling a bit 'under the weather' lately. Nothing specific, just the odd headache, occasional tingling in places that really shouldn't tingle. Anyway, last night I remembered that I had a blood pressure monitor in the cupboard and thought I'd check it. Jeez......191/89. That can't be right, surely. Do it again.....189/87. Nah, machine must be fooked, try it on wifey...90/65. Shit.
So I phone the docs at 8 this morning, told the receptionist what it was about and, bingo, an appointment this aft. You usually need a letter from God to get an appointment, so that didn't cheer me up at all. At the appointment I was half expecting/hoping that I was wasting his time. But, no, same high readings. He said they were dangerously high and left it at that. Gave me Amlodipine 5mg, one a day and I have to go back in 10 days.
When I got home and googled those readings I shit meself. Phrases like 'high risk of stroke' certainly make for sober reading. So I've taken it upon myself to start a new, healthier regime tomorrow, I hope I can stick to it. I can't bear the thought of putting Mo through what Don is going through, it would be emotionally and financially ruinous.
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: ronnyd on 01 June 2022, 21:25:25
Not wishing to steer the thread away (much), I've been feeling a bit 'under the weather' lately. Nothing specific, just the odd headache, occasional tingling in places that really shouldn't tingle. Anyway, last night I remembered that I had a blood pressure monitor in the cupboard and thought I'd check it. Jeez......191/89. That can't be right, surely. Do it again.....189/87. Nah, machine must be fooked, try it on wifey...90/65. Shit.
So I phone the docs at 8 this morning, told the receptionist what it was about and, bingo, an appointment this aft. You usually need a letter from God to get an appointment, so that didn't cheer me up at all. At the appointment I was half expecting/hoping that I was wasting his time. But, no, same high readings. He said they were dangerously high and left it at that. Gave me Amlodipine 5mg, one a day and I have to go back in 10 days.
When I got home and googled those readings I shit meself. Phrases like 'high risk of stroke' certainly make for sober reading. So I've taken it upon myself to start a new, healthier regime tomorrow, I hope I can stick to it. I can't bear the thought of putting Mo through what Don is going through, it would be emotionally and financially ruinous.
Just remember, death is natures way of telling you to slow down.  :D  Seriously Steve, at least you've done something about it. Give the Amlodipine, which i'm also on, a few days to kick in and don't take your BP too often or it gets obsessive. Good luck. :y
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: STEMO on 01 June 2022, 21:57:36
Not wishing to steer the thread away (much), I've been feeling a bit 'under the weather' lately. Nothing specific, just the odd headache, occasional tingling in places that really shouldn't tingle. Anyway, last night I remembered that I had a blood pressure monitor in the cupboard and thought I'd check it. Jeez......191/89. That can't be right, surely. Do it again.....189/87. Nah, machine must be fooked, try it on wifey...90/65. Shit.
So I phone the docs at 8 this morning, told the receptionist what it was about and, bingo, an appointment this aft. You usually need a letter from God to get an appointment, so that didn't cheer me up at all. At the appointment I was half expecting/hoping that I was wasting his time. But, no, same high readings. He said they were dangerously high and left it at that. Gave me Amlodipine 5mg, one a day and I have to go back in 10 days.
When I got home and googled those readings I shit meself. Phrases like 'high risk of stroke' certainly make for sober reading. So I've taken it upon myself to start a new, healthier regime tomorrow, I hope I can stick to it. I can't bear the thought of putting Mo through what Don is going through, it would be emotionally and financially ruinous.
Just remember, death is natures way of telling you to slow down.  :D  Seriously Steve, at least you've done something about it. Give the Amlodipine, which i'm also on, a few days to kick in and don't take your BP too often or it gets obsessive. Good luck. :y
Cheers, Ron  :)
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: Olympia5776 on 02 June 2022, 09:51:06
Not wishing to steer the thread away (much), I've been feeling a bit 'under the weather' lately. Nothing specific, just the odd headache, occasional tingling in places that really shouldn't tingle. Anyway, last night I remembered that I had a blood pressure monitor in the cupboard and thought I'd check it. Jeez......191/89. That can't be right, surely. Do it again.....189/87. Nah, machine must be fooked, try it on wifey...90/65. Shit.
So I phone the docs at 8 this morning, told the receptionist what it was about and, bingo, an appointment this aft. You usually need a letter from God to get an appointment, so that didn't cheer me up at all. At the appointment I was half expecting/hoping that I was wasting his time. But, no, same high readings. He said they were dangerously high and left it at that. Gave me Amlodipine 5mg, one a day and I have to go back in 10 days.
When I got home and googled those readings I shit meself. Phrases like 'high risk of stroke' certainly make for sober reading. So I've taken it upon myself to start a new, healthier regime tomorrow, I hope I can stick to it. I can't bear the thought of putting Mo through what Don is going through, it would be emotionally and financially ruinous.
Well , that's a salutary lesson for you Steve .
I naively believed that strokes were as seen in the recent "FAST" TV ads ie visual and immediately apparent.
It was only after Sheilagh had been diagnosed as having the first two strokes that I did a search and shamefully discovered that I could tick every box on the numerous symptoms that were described .
High blood pressure , extreme fatigue ,poor balance and slow walking , nausea and sickness , loss of hearing in one ear (that she incorrectly diagnosed as a build up of wax ) short term memory problems and slight disorientation and most of all high blood sugar levels ( she has type 2 diabetes. ) .
I was very angry with myself as although I wasn't aware of all the symptoms she was experiencing I had been of some of them and had insisted that she see a Doctor, which thankfully I arranged.
She had an MRI scan after being admitted to hospital and it confirmed that at that point two " events " had occurred unfortunately the third and worst took place 10 days after her admission .
My point of this post is to alert you all to the reality of the symptoms of stroke over the albeit welcome , but rather misleading , signs given in the ad. campaigns .
I was unaware of the truly devastating effects that this dreadful condition brings and can only urge you all to question and consider every "odd or unusual " feeling you have when you get on in years .

Steve I too have had to reassess my diet and regime eating less and better and dusting down the most expensive clothes hanger I have , ie the treadmill ...and using it gently but regularily .
Good luck ,stick to it as it has to be worth it .  :y
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: STEMO on 02 June 2022, 10:01:28
Done my 5K treadmill already, Don. Lovely in the woods this morning. Trouble is, doggie is also getting old, 11 now, and she has trouble at any more than 'strolling' pace. Still, better than sitting on my arse watching morning tv.
The act of being out and about in the woods is also beneficial, I'm sure the birds singing and the sun shining through the trees is enough to lower your BP on it's own.
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: Rangie on 02 June 2022, 13:23:38
Done my 5K treadmill already, Don. Lovely in the woods this morning. Trouble is, doggie is also getting old, 11 now, and she has trouble at any more than 'strolling' pace. Still, better than sitting on my arse watching morning tv.
The act of being out and about in the woods is also beneficial, I'm sure the birds singing and the sun shining through the trees is enough to lower your BP on it's own.


Probably the best exercise for anyone walking, you're doing the sensible thing Steve, gentle exercise & taking heed of what your body is telling you.
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 02 June 2022, 13:42:20
Not wishing to steer the thread away (much), I've been feeling a bit 'under the weather' lately. Nothing specific, just the odd headache, occasional tingling in places that really shouldn't tingle. Anyway, last night I remembered that I had a blood pressure monitor in the cupboard and thought I'd check it. Jeez......191/89. That can't be right, surely. Do it again.....189/87. Nah, machine must be fooked, try it on wifey...90/65. Shit.
So I phone the docs at 8 this morning, told the receptionist what it was about and, bingo, an appointment this aft. You usually need a letter from God to get an appointment, so that didn't cheer me up at all. At the appointment I was half expecting/hoping that I was wasting his time. But, no, same high readings. He said they were dangerously high and left it at that. Gave me Amlodipine 5mg, one a day and I have to go back in 10 days.
When I got home and googled those readings I shit meself. Phrases like 'high risk of stroke' certainly make for sober reading. So I've taken it upon myself to start a new, healthier regime tomorrow, I hope I can stick to it. I can't bear the thought of putting Mo through what Don is going through, it would be emotionally and financially ruinous.

Should be roughly 120.

The figure your long-suffering wife had of 90/65 is probably slightly too low. Hypotension I think they call it. Better than too high though for obvious reasons.
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 02 June 2022, 13:47:27
..... How many of you are still wearing a mask out and about?  ???

I haven't worn a mask for months now, but nothing wrong if you do.  After all there are a lot of folk out there with health conditions that clearly want to avoid catching a cold let alone Covid and believe that masks offer protection.  :)  I'm just curious that's all.  :y

Yesterday going into Tesco, I passed a woman in her late thirties with two kids, a boy and a girl both about 7 or 8 years old. The woman was wearing a gasmask type mask with two filters and both kids were wearing the neoprene masks with the little breathing hole/filter. The little lad was getting a bollocking from his Mum because he kept fiddling with his mask and taking it off etc.  ::)

I first thought that she was totally ridiculous, but did reflect that there might have been good reason for masking up like that.  :-\  I suspect though that she is in fact a ridiculous woman and is damaging her kids with her Covid paranoia!  ::)

Thoughts?  ???

Can't speak for the woman but kids that age are unlikely to have serious health issues of a respiratory nature.

Her kids may grow up being 'excessively fearful'..... :-X
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: Rangie on 02 June 2022, 15:42:53
Not wishing to steer the thread away (much), I've been feeling a bit 'under the weather' lately. Nothing specific, just the odd headache, occasional tingling in places that really shouldn't tingle. Anyway, last night I remembered that I had a blood pressure monitor in the cupboard and thought I'd check it. Jeez......191/89. That can't be right, surely. Do it again.....189/87. Nah, machine must be fooked, try it on wifey...90/65. Shit.
So I phone the docs at 8 this morning, told the receptionist what it was about and, bingo, an appointment this aft. You usually need a letter from God to get an appointment, so that didn't cheer me up at all. At the appointment I was half expecting/hoping that I was wasting his time. But, no, same high readings. He said they were dangerously high and left it at that. Gave me Amlodipine 5mg, one a day and I have to go back in 10 days.
When I got home and googled those readings I shit meself. Phrases like 'high risk of stroke' certainly make for sober reading. So I've taken it upon myself to start a new, healthier regime tomorrow, I hope I can stick to it. I can't bear the thought of putting Mo through what Don is going through, it would be emotionally and financially ruinous.


I had my yearly check with the diabetic nurse about 6 weeks ago my BP was 140/80 which has always been spot on unfortunately we have a whole bunch of just finished training nurses who want textbook figures , her comment was that it's borderline high , total crap in my opinion I'm type 2 with absolutely no problems she even mentioned that I may have to go on insulin injections, got to return in August after a blood test, but I have no intention of going onto insulin & will inform her that it's my body & my decision.
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 02 June 2022, 16:02:31
A MIL of mine (I've had more than one) suffered a stroke. The amount of salt she would add to her food was amazing and would take about 30 seconds for each meal. Add to this the huge amount of salt in most of the processed crap available today and it was no real surprise.
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: TheBoy on 04 June 2022, 17:05:55
I still wear one depending on circumstance, as a respect to others.  TfL still ask that face coverings are worn, so I do so, where is the harm in that?

I also wear one if meeting up with somebody not in peak health, or if somebody still has anxiety about it all, esp if inside. Again, where is the harm in that?

I know there is a proportion of the population who genuinely believe nothing of what's gone on in the last 2.5yrs and think its one big conspiracy, and another proportion of the population who have enough arrogance to think they can do as they please because its not illegal.  I prefer a more pragmatic approach, as its not exactly a hardship.
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: TheBoy on 04 June 2022, 17:06:46
I wear one at each and every opportunity , have hand sanitizer in all the vehicles and look for and use it upon entering every shop or public building I go into.
My wife has been in the Stroke Recovery Ward for two months after suffering three devastating strokes and I will not, and cannot ,risk being a carrier .
The ward has been closed to visiting twice in the time she has been in Hospital resulting in all visits being cancelled , which is a particularly difficult thing to have to bear . This was most likely due to it being brought in by visitors , including possibly me .
It's still out there and I now know what the personal results of it being transmitted by those that don't care anymore are .
Desperately sorry to hear of this, I wish you both well.
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: Rangie on 04 June 2022, 18:33:05
I still wear one depending on circumstance, as a respect to others.  TfL still ask that face coverings are worn, so I do so, where is the harm in that?

I also wear one if meeting up with somebody not in peak health, or if somebody still has anxiety about it all, esp if inside. Again, where is the harm in that?

I know there is a proportion of the population who genuinely believe nothing of what's gone on in the last 2.5yrs and think its one big conspiracy, and another proportion of the population who have enough arrogance to think they can do as they please because its not illegal.  I prefer a more pragmatic approach, as its not exactly a hardship.



These are our sentiments entirely, it's not a big deal & yes it's happened & it's still out there.
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 04 June 2022, 18:41:01
I think I may have had the lurgy once, possibly twice. Hard to tell as I didn't bother with a covid test just felt slightly under the weather for a few days.

I've been mixing freely so It's quite possible.

I see very few wearing masks. My personal view is that it is time to move on.



 
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: Keith ABS on 04 June 2022, 20:04:46
 After having to wear one for so long, it does seem odd not wearing them now
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 04 June 2022, 20:23:34
I wonder if there will be an increase in people getting lung conditions from breathing in the micro fibres from excessive wearing of cheap Chinese blue masks?  ???  ::)
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 05 June 2022, 13:02:15
I wonder if there will be an increase in people getting lung conditions from breathing in the micro fibres from excessive wearing of cheap Chinese blue masks?  ???  ::)

Probably.....although I doubt it will make much difference when added to the crap we breathe in on a daily basis.

 There is also some emerging evidence that vaccination has a link with stroke/blood clots amongst certain age groups.

 
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: ronnyd on 05 June 2022, 13:21:09
My mates daughter-in-law has had covid twice. She is now in hospital with diabetes brought on by the after effects of the covid. Strangely, it's not classed as either type one or two. Odd.
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: TheBoy on 05 June 2022, 19:05:11
I know of another one who sucombbed in the last couple of weeks to the non-existent, no worse than a mild cold, virus :(
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 05 June 2022, 22:36:20
Well it seems that the authorities don't think it's non existent and have plans to restrict us again.  :-X

(https://i.postimg.cc/fRYrDkBd/Covid-Pass-Job.jpg)

 :-\
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 05 June 2022, 22:51:41
I sincerely hope not :-\ We haven't long resumed flying to Sydney...

Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: STEMO on 06 June 2022, 06:51:58
Appears to me a lot of folk are not flying anywhere. Game of lotto whether your flight's cancelled or not, and no guarantee you'll actually take off even after boarding.
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 06 June 2022, 09:34:14
There's disruption everywhere, whether it's the UK or abroad, and most of it is shortage of staff.

The media is the usual misleading claptrap.

EasyJet went from a 40ish% reduced winter schedule to their full 2019 schedule overnight. And they have neither the staff nor the aircraft to operate it. Also, their crews have little incentive to work, as they currently have no duty free or hot food to sell, coupled with a sickness policy that allows them a carte blanche sickness if they have 'covid symptoms', ie come back when you're feeling better.

In the meantime they're selling flights they couldn't possibly operate to keep the cash coming in.

From what I have seen on the front line at T5, we're operating a reduced timetable, for example, our afternoon flight to Newark yesterday (June 6th), was cancelled. In early MAY.  ::)

Short domestic flights do routinely get rearranged, but this is largely because there are legitimate alternatives to flying to Manchester/Edinburgh/Glasgow, and it is easier to combine flights and use a larger aircraft later in the day and use the three hour operational saving to keep another route on track/keep crews and aircraft in the right place for the start of the following day.

So, yes it's true that British Airways have cancelled flights, but the media reports give no context as what flying programme they are using as a reference, as we aren't selling a full timetable to begin with.

Most of our delays have been down to weather or ground delays due to congestion, which is as much because Terminal 4 is currently closed, as anything, although that will improve in due course as new staff get on boarded and the other airlines currently using T5 will be moving out.
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 06 June 2022, 09:55:01
My training for my new job is six weeks, start to finish, and that's not due to start until late July, so it isn't as simple as getting people in to start on Monday and magically fill the vacancies.
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 06 June 2022, 10:36:16
Back on topic, thanks to the US test within a day policy, we have people turning up not having had a test 'because they are American' subsequently testing positive and then demanding to know why it is our fault that they then cannot fly. :-X
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: Viral_Jim on 06 June 2022, 13:57:56
I'm currently wearing a mask if meeting with people who are not on peak health or who I know are still nervous about the whole thing. I tend not to in shops, but mostly I avoid going in Shops in the first place.

On the whole air travel thing, I'm currently sat in Frankfurt airport and it's as busy as I've ever seen it. Not sure if they've got fewer concourses open, but the bits of it I have seen are all rammed  :-\
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 06 June 2022, 14:30:21
A chap returning to Munich yesterday said it was chaos leaving there last week, and that it seemed to staff shortages causing the issues.

Certainly if you normally have ten X Ray machines running in security but only have staffing for three and one breaks, then you (temporarily) lose a third of your capacity when you're already unable to process 66% of the people you used to.

And yet you still get people turning up at -20 expecting to fly  :-X
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: STEMO on 06 June 2022, 15:08:57
Went to the vets this morning to make an appointment for doggie (reckon she might be diabetic.  😢 for the dog  😢😢😢 for my wallet) dutifully wearing a mask. Oh, we're not bothering with that any more, she says. Shall I start a fight, I thought. Nah.....11:30 tomorrow.
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: STEMO on 06 June 2022, 15:09:31
Crying smilies haven't been working for a while.
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 06 June 2022, 15:20:49
Hope doggie is ok :'(
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: STEMO on 06 June 2022, 15:23:59
Hope doggie is ok :'(
Thanks  :-*
So do I, between me getting up for three pisses and her for two, I'm not getting a lot of sleep  ;D
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: Olympia5776 on 07 June 2022, 17:41:39
I wear one at each and every opportunity , have hand sanitizer in all the vehicles and look for and use it upon entering every shop or public building I go into.
My wife has been in the Stroke Recovery Ward for two months after suffering three devastating strokes and I will not, and cannot ,risk being a carrier .
The ward has been closed to visiting twice in the time she has been in Hospital resulting in all visits being cancelled , which is a particularly difficult thing to have to bear . This was most likely due to it being brought in by visitors , including possibly me .
It's still out there and I now know what the personal results of it being transmitted by those that don't care anymore are .
Desperately sorry to hear of this, I wish you both well.

Thank you .  :y
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: STEMO on 07 June 2022, 18:18:46
Went to the vets this morning to make an appointment for doggie (reckon she might be diabetic.  😢 for the dog  😢😢😢 for my wallet) dutifully wearing a mask. Oh, we're not bothering with that any more, she says. Shall I start a fight, I thought. Nah.....11:30 tomorrow.
Sugar in wee, blood sample taken, not looking good. I had absolutely no idea how involved looking after a dog with diabetes is  :(
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 07 June 2022, 18:37:14
As long as it makes her feel better, then it's worth it  ;)
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: STEMO on 07 June 2022, 19:28:32
As long as it makes her feel better, then it's worth it  ;)
Hmm...not sure whether two jabs a day for the rest of her life will make her feel better, she will end up hating me.
Nor not having any treats, two meals a day twelve hours apart, limited exercise and regular visits to the vet.
My wallet hurts just thinking about it.
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 08 June 2022, 01:43:22
We feed ours twice a day...

Forth glade, either half a 400g tray or one 150g tub each meal. Literally two or three Forth glade snacks for lunch (obviously not an option), and she's a steady 9.7-10kgs.

As for exercise, she gets what she needs, but is just as happy to sleep 20 hours a day  ;D

Our previous Tibetan Terrorist had to be washed daily for nearly two years due to a stress reaction making her fur fall out.

You adapt the day as required and they will adjust to the new routine.
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: Viral_Jim on 08 June 2022, 11:59:12
A chap returning to Munich yesterday said it was chaos leaving there last week, and that it seemed to staff shortages causing the issues.

Certainly if you normally have ten X Ray machines running in security but only have staffing for three and one breaks, then you (temporarily) lose a third of your capacity when you're already unable to process 66% of the people you used to.

And yet you still get people turning up at -20 expecting to fly  :-X

So, it turns out I brought an unwanted souvenir back with me from Vancouver, two lines on my lateral flow test yesterday  ::). I was tested negative (PCR) getting off the boat in Vancouver on Sunday morning, so not sure exactly when/where I picked it up.  Definite mixed emotions for me on this one. On the one hand I'm glad I'm not stuck in Canada paying for some enforced isolation time and a new flight home; but on the other hand I will undoubtedly have passed it to someone (or several someones) unwittingly on my way home  :-\. 
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: STEMO on 08 June 2022, 12:14:18
A chap returning to Munich yesterday said it was chaos leaving there last week, and that it seemed to staff shortages causing the issues.

Certainly if you normally have ten X Ray machines running in security but only have staffing for three and one breaks, then you (temporarily) lose a third of your capacity when you're already unable to process 66% of the people you used to.

And yet you still get people turning up at -20 expecting to fly  :-X

So, it turns out I brought an unwanted souvenir back with me from Vancouver, two lines on my lateral flow test yesterday  ::). I was tested negative (PCR) getting off the boat in Vancouver on Sunday morning, so not sure exactly when/where I picked it up.  Definite mixed emotions for me on this one. On the one hand I'm glad I'm not stuck in Canada paying for some enforced isolation time and a new flight home; but on the other hand I will undoubtedly have passed it to someone (or several someones) unwittingly on my way home  :-\.
At least when you bring a dose of the clap home you can guess where you got it, and you certainly know who you've passed it on to.  ;D
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 08 June 2022, 13:09:50
A chap returning to Munich yesterday said it was chaos leaving there last week, and that it seemed to staff shortages causing the issues.

Certainly if you normally have ten X Ray machines running in security but only have staffing for three and one breaks, then you (temporarily) lose a third of your capacity when you're already unable to process 66% of the people you used to.

And yet you still get people turning up at -20 expecting to fly  :-X

So, it turns out I brought an unwanted souvenir back with me from Vancouver, two lines on my lateral flow test yesterday  ::). I was tested negative (PCR) getting off the boat in Vancouver on Sunday morning, so not sure exactly when/where I picked it up.  Definite mixed emotions for me on this one. On the one hand I'm glad I'm not stuck in Canada paying for some enforced isolation time and a new flight home; but on the other hand I will undoubtedly have passed it to someone (or several someones) unwittingly on my way home  :-\.
At least when you bring a dose of the clap home you can guess where you got it, and you certainly know who you've passed it on to.  ;D

Ah, the clap clinic. ::)

As late teenagers we found it quite amusing I seem to remember.

There would usually be two or three of us going at the same time.
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 08 June 2022, 13:40:32
Canada is now insisting on all the documentation being checked at Check In, including the ArriveCan QR code.

Might also explain why the A380 on its way back is two hours late...

Today will be the third round trip to Vancouver in as many days for G-XLEE...
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: Viral_Jim on 08 June 2022, 14:37:23
Its certainly a popular destination at the moment!

We got in at 1145 off a close-to-capacity 747-430, made our way to our connection, only to find the gate next door was loading a similarly busy plane of identical spec on its way right back. Plus the daily A350 we took out of MUC.

The ArriveCAN system was actually pretty good to use, as these things go, read our passport data using the phone camera and accepted pdfs of the NHS covid stuff. I guess it does rely on people actually doing it before getting to the gate though.  ;D   
Title: Re: So Hands Up.....
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 09 June 2022, 01:59:04
They changed it this week so the QR code must be seen at Check In.

Had a British couple, resident in BC for the last 12 years, arrive to return to Vancouver absolutely distraught, because when they had gone to check in on line, they were greeted with 'Unable to travel due to incorrect documentation'.

Turns out the ArriveCan QR code check had been added to the list. Last week you simply had to demonstrate compliance upon arrival...