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Title: Vote Of No Confidence
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 06 June 2022, 14:00:52
So Boris Johnson faces a vote of no confidence this evening, so I thought we'd have an OOF vote as well!  :y

Personally, I would vote for him to stay, as I don't think that this is any time for the country to be without a Prime Minister and it will take a couple of months for the Tories to select a new leader and Prime Minister.

Yes he's made mistakes, but I feel that partygate for example has been blown out of all proportion by his enemies in the media, Labour and within the Tory party. Note how the media aren't talking about Sir Starmers police investigation into his Durham beer and curry night.  ::)

He's also pulled off a couple of masterstrokes which I can't imagine any other politician having the balls to do. Taking the vaccine program away from the Department of Health and setting up the Vaccine Taskforce led by Venture Capitalist Kate Bingham for one. Most would have defaulted to the 'safe route' of joining the EU's efforts and I'm sure that that was the advice from the Civil Servants at the time.  The AUKUS submarine deal with Australia and the USA, was another act which I can't imagine any other potential PM doing, as they'd probably be too worried about upsetting the French!  ;D

No other peacetime PM has had to deal with the issues that Boris has had to deal with, and yes although the parties at No10 weren't good, I see it more as a Civil Service issue than Boris Johnsons fault. The narrative peddled that Boris Johnson partied on an industrial scale while people died, is complete and utter 'dangle berries'!

There's great potential for Ukraine to spin out of control into a wider conflict and this is no time for a power vacuum in No 10!  >:(

Some may disagree with me!  ;D
Title: Re: Vote Of No Confidence
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 06 June 2022, 14:26:08
I hope the vote tonight goes as well as this one seems to be  ;D
Title: Re: Vote Of No Confidence
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 06 June 2022, 14:30:04
I hope the vote tonight goes as well as this one seems to be  ;D

Doubt it. Albs will be along soon!  ;D
Title: Re: Vote Of No Confidence
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 06 June 2022, 14:31:23
 ;D
Title: Re: Vote Of No Confidence
Post by: Nick W on 06 June 2022, 14:38:21
I think you used the wrong words for your poll.


It ought to read like this:


How has Boris and his carefully chosen troupe of misfits, suck-ups and competence black holes lasted this long?


A: there is a God and he hates us


B: there is no God and we're oppsed for eternity
Title: Re: Vote Of No Confidence
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 06 June 2022, 15:48:08
Boris is a bumbling inbred arsehole who wouldn't recognise truth or integrity if it bit his Eton educated  arse.

Sadly, he is just about the best we have at the moment. :-X
Title: Re: Vote Of No Confidence
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 06 June 2022, 17:42:23
So Boris Johnson faces a vote of no confidence this evening, so I thought we'd have an OOF vote as well!  :y

Personally, I would vote for him to stay, as I don't think that this is any time for the country to be without a Prime Minister and it will take a couple of months for the Tories to select a new leader and Prime Minister.

Yes he's made mistakes, but I feel that partygate for example has been blown out of all proportion by his enemies in the media, Labour and within the Tory party. Note how the media aren't talking about Sir Starmers police investigation into his Durham beer and curry night.  ::)

He's also pulled off a couple of masterstrokes which I can't imagine any other politician having the balls to do. Taking the vaccine program away from the Department of Health and setting up the Vaccine Taskforce led by Venture Capitalist Kate Bingham for one. Most would have defaulted to the 'safe route' of joining the EU's efforts and I'm sure that that was the advice from the Civil Servants at the time.  The AUKUS submarine deal with Australia and the USA, was another act which I can't imagine any other potential PM doing, as they'd probably be too worried about upsetting the French!  ;D

No other peacetime PM has had to deal with the issues that Boris has had to deal with, and yes although the parties at No10 weren't good, I see it more as a Civil Service issue than Boris Johnsons fault. The narrative peddled that Boris Johnson partied on an industrial scale while people died, is complete and utter 'dangle berries'!

There's great potential for Ukraine to spin out of control into a wider conflict and this is no time for a power vacuum in No 10!  >:(

Some may disagree with me!  ;D

No, I for one agree with you entirely  :y

He can be a buffoon, an upper class, public school boy twit, but somehow he has shown great leadership with the Covid crisis, ensuring it was the UK that led the vaccine programme, then with the Ukraine issue.  He showed the way for the UN to become united (almost) and stand up to Putin, then ensure the UK gave their great president moral and military support.  Even with the energy crisis he IS doing all he can as PM to lead the Government in giving support to millions of us as much as realistically the funds (taxpayers money) will allow without pushing the Country completely into bankruptcy.

So any drinks parties must be seen in context - yes, not wise moves but with millions doing the same I am sure - so with everything else it must be now considered a minor digression.  And of course who else could lead this Country with some flair and determination?  Certainly not the Labour gang, nor anyone else from the Conservative Party. :P

On you go Boris! :D ;)
Title: Re: Vote Of No Confidence
Post by: Raeturbo on 06 June 2022, 18:28:20
Boris has done pretty well considering all the unexpected shit that’s hit the fan since he took the wheel. I shudder to think of what Starmer would have done, or any of the shower of crap the Labour Party is at the moment. Of course he’s done wrong but it’s time to let go imo and get behind the madman ;D.
Title: Re: Vote Of No Confidence
Post by: STEMO on 06 June 2022, 18:30:09
I think he'll survive because he is the best (Conservative party) man for the job.
But that point merely serves to emphasise what a bunch of mediocrities the rest are.
Title: Re: Vote Of No Confidence
Post by: Rangie on 06 June 2022, 18:53:16
Hope he survives, I like him & his attitude , he's had more than his fair share of shit to put up with, all this criticism I'd like to see someone else do any better.
Title: Re: Vote Of No Confidence
Post by: STEMO on 06 June 2022, 19:26:44
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Title: Re: Vote Of No Confidence
Post by: STEMO on 06 June 2022, 21:04:18
148 is a lot, Boris will have to fight for his political life.
Title: Re: Vote Of No Confidence
Post by: TheBoy on 06 June 2022, 21:16:50
I think for many, except the BBC/FailyDail, its not that he had parties, its the fact he lied so blatantly.  Initially insisting that there were no parties until the evidence came out, then claiming he didn't attend, until the evidence came out, and so on.  Lies have been a constant in his political career, including the £350m a week to the NHS, and the "Ready Made Deal"...

...and then trying to change the rules so ministers can lie without any repercussions.  Next step is a slow decline to dictatorship.
Title: Re: Vote Of No Confidence
Post by: TheBoy on 06 June 2022, 21:22:22
Whilst he has made it through another day, he must know he can't stay on with that number who votes against him.
Title: Re: Vote Of No Confidence
Post by: ronnyd on 06 June 2022, 23:01:23
I think that the results of the impending bye elections will give a clearer picture of how the electorate feel about Boris. As opposed to an in house Tory one.  ???
Title: Re: Vote Of No Confidence
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 07 June 2022, 00:19:17
The majority of his backbenchers voted against him. Those on he government payroll saved him. So he is permanently weakened.
If there was a single half decent alternative candidate, he would already be gone.
As soon as one appears he will be knifed in the back and rightly so. He isnt fit to hold the office he holds, and demeans it every day he stays in it.
The die hard remoaners (Heseltine being a prime example) have announced recently that getting rid of him will give them yet another opportunity to overturn the Brexit vote.
Dont the cretins realise that the one thing thats certain to keep him in the job is the threat of reliving the most disgraceful episode in the recent history of British politics ?  ::)
As Ive said before. Its a Parliament of Pygmies, and that is what is saving him - for now.
Title: Re: Vote Of No Confidence
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 07 June 2022, 08:41:25
The trouble with the remoaners, is that they simply cannot accept that the people they claim to represent disagreed with them, and they are still sore that the electorate had the audacity to vote to leave the EU.

Brexit happened. Accept it and move on.
Title: Re: Vote Of No Confidence
Post by: Raeturbo on 07 June 2022, 10:50:56
The trouble with the remoaners, is that they simply cannot accept that the people they claim to represent disagreed with them, and they are still sore that the electorate had the audacity to vote to leave the EU.

Brexit happened. Accept it and move on.
              Yes, or f@ck off to an Eu country  :y
Title: Re: Vote Of No Confidence
Post by: LC0112G on 07 June 2022, 12:06:26
I can't see Boris lasting to the next GE now. If 40% of his own MP's can't support him, then it's too easy for the opposition to claim that the British public shouldn't either. So the question is who, where and when the dagger will be plunged into his back. Two tricky byelections coming up, and less than 2 years till the next election. A new leader will want their feet under the table well before the next election. I reckon the 2019 red wall tories will start to panic about their own seats if Honiton goes pear shaped.
Title: Re: Vote Of No Confidence
Post by: LC0112G on 07 June 2022, 12:07:39
The trouble with the remoaners, is that they simply cannot accept that the people they claim to represent disagreed with them, and they are still sore that the electorate had the audacity to vote to leave the EU.

Brexit happened. Accept it and move on.
              Yes, or f@ck off to an Eu country  :y
They can't. You're only allowed to stay in the EU for 90 days in any 180 now.
Title: Re: Vote Of No Confidence
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 07 June 2022, 12:10:01
The trouble with the remoaners, is that they simply cannot accept that the people they claim to represent disagreed with them, and they are still sore that the electorate had the audacity to vote to leave the EU.

Brexit happened. Accept it and move on.
              Yes, or f@ck off to an Eu country  :y
They can't. You're only allowed to stay in the EU for 90 days in any 180 now.
Unless you move there ;)

Which I believe was Raeturbos point...
Title: Re: Vote Of No Confidence
Post by: LC0112G on 07 June 2022, 12:19:05
The trouble with the remoaners, is that they simply cannot accept that the people they claim to represent disagreed with them, and they are still sore that the electorate had the audacity to vote to leave the EU.

Brexit happened. Accept it and move on.
              Yes, or f@ck off to an Eu country  :y
They can't. You're only allowed to stay in the EU for 90 days in any 180 now.
Unless you move there ;)

Which I believe was Raeturbos point...
For which you need a Long Stay Visa, and there is no garantee you'll get one.
Title: Re: Vote Of No Confidence
Post by: Raeturbo on 07 June 2022, 12:25:09
There’s always the people smugglers, hire a boat option …. Should be many making a trip back to Calais with an empty  boat ;D let’s give something back👍
Title: Re: Vote Of No Confidence
Post by: johnnydog on 07 June 2022, 12:55:07
The trouble with the remoaners, is that they simply cannot accept that the people they claim to represent disagreed with them, and they are still sore that the electorate had the audacity to vote to leave the EU.

Brexit happened. Accept it and move on.
              Yes, or f@ck off to an Eu country  :y
They can't. You're only allowed to stay in the EU for 90 days in any 180 now.
Unless you move there ;)

Which I believe was Raeturbos point...
For which you need a Long Stay Visa, and there is no garantee you'll get one.

Or residency. But there are certain necessary requirements to get it...
Title: Re: Vote Of No Confidence
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 07 June 2022, 12:59:30
148 is a lot, Boris will have to fight for his political life.

41.2%.....he'll struggle with that many knives stuck in his back.