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Title: could i get more for it in parts??
Post by: Danny on 10 September 2008, 16:55:02
[chose general chat as there's nothing set in stone so figured it doesnt warrant going in the for sale or help section]

i know my car's too good to break but people seem to be put off my car for a number of reasons, one being the obvious that i sympathise with... credit crunch, people having no money!, then there's the LPG not talking to my car properly, then also the reg being march 2001 meaning high tax, lastly, the "too good to be true" price making everyone naturally run away!!

so i get thinking, should i break it? are there enough people in here or scouring ebay wanting parts?

how much would i make from the following:

LPG kit complete with tank
full heated leather
various body panels
headlight washers
3.0v6 engine and autobox with 76k
very tidy well looked after elite alloys on recent tyres
irmscher grille
bose sound system inc sat nav
recent exhaust
boot spoiler

this would get round people who dont want the car cos of high tax, and i'd cash in the remaining tax

what main parts of my car would people not want at all? i.e are worthless?
Title: Re: could i get more for it in parts??
Post by: Kevin Wood on 10 September 2008, 16:57:18
I would be inclined to remove the LPG system and sell it, or resolve the problems with it. Nothing scares people like unfinished projects. Then see if it'll sell. Be a shame to break the whole car.

Kevin
Title: Re: could i get more for it in parts??
Post by: Lazydocker on 10 September 2008, 16:57:19
Hmmm..... I still think you'd be better spending a bit of time sorting the LPG and then trying to sell it again :y :y :y :y
Title: Re: could i get more for it in parts??
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 10 September 2008, 16:58:36
Guessing, off the top of my head:

LPG kit complete with tank

It's condition is unknown in that it's never worked properly, so peanuts I'm afraid :(

full heated leather

In it's condition, and being facelift - £200

various body panels

Not a lot - bumpers maybe £50 if good. Headlights, etc.

headlight washers

Are they not built into the bumpers on facelifts?

3.0v6 engine and autobox with 76k

AR35 - £80. Engine - £250 on ebay perhaps but you have the hassle of taking it out


very tidy well looked after elite alloys on recent tyres

£200?

irmscher grille

Not a clue - £100??

bose sound system inc sat nav

If it's CID like mine with the headunit and entire system - £300 maybe?

recent exhaust - worthless



It's certainly worth thinking about, in your situation!

If you do break it, I WILL have the LPG kit off you :y
Title: Re: could i get more for it in parts??
Post by: Lazydocker on 10 September 2008, 17:02:10
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Guessing, off the top of my head:

LPG kit complete with tank

It's condition is unknown in that it's never worked properly, so peanuts I'm afraid :(

full heated leather

In it's condition, and being facelift - £200

various body panels

Not a lot - bumpers maybe £50 if good. Headlights, etc.

headlight washers

Are they not built into the bumpers on facelifts?

3.0v6 engine and autobox with 76k

AR35 - £80. Engine - £250 on ebay perhaps but you have the hassle of taking it out


very tidy well looked after elite alloys on recent tyres

£200?

irmscher grille

Not a clue - £100??

bose sound system inc sat nav

If it's CID like mine with the headunit and entire system - £300 maybe?

recent exhaust - worthless



It's certainly worth thinking about, in your situation!

If you do break it, I WILL have the LPG kit off you :y

Change of heart on the LPG things???  ;D ;D
Title: Re: could i get more for it in parts??
Post by: Kevin Wood on 10 September 2008, 17:03:27
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If you do break it, I WILL have the LPG kit off you

See. I knew he'd bite eventually. ;)

Kevin
Title: Re: could i get more for it in parts??
Post by: Entwood on 10 September 2008, 17:04:57
I'd say either fix or remove LPG so you are selling a car with no known problems.. then sell via autotrader or similar.... ebay is not the place to buy or sell cars IMHO .. too many chancers on both sides of the agreement
Title: Re: could i get more for it in parts??
Post by: Markie on 10 September 2008, 17:06:27
No its not worth more in parts, not if your looking for £2,000

Better fixing and selling - its for once worth more as a running car.
Title: Re: could i get more for it in parts??
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 10 September 2008, 17:08:53
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If you do break it, I WILL have the LPG kit off you

See. I knew he'd bite eventually. ;)

Kevin

Thing is - I think his filler is in the rear panel, so removing it would leave a great big hole.

Therefore I don't think removal, and selling as a normal car, is viable :(
Title: Re: could i get more for it in parts??
Post by: Danny on 10 September 2008, 17:09:51
given that i'm only asking £2000 for the car it probably is worth more in parts, since i have no time or money to fix it, but i havent got anywhere to store a broken car once it's shed plenty parts, nor do i have the means to remove the engine and box

filler is in the bumper at the back, right in the middle (f***wits that fitted it didnt think about the possibilities of people wanting towbars on their cars)
Title: Re: could i get more for it in parts??
Post by: Lazydocker on 10 September 2008, 17:29:35
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If you do break it, I WILL have the LPG kit off you

See. I knew he'd bite eventually. ;)

Kevin

Thing is - I think his filler is in the rear panel, so removing it would leave a great big hole.

Therefore I don't think removal, and selling as a normal car, is viable :(

Should you end up with the kit I have a complete "spare" filler and housing you can have :y :y
Title: Re: could i get more for it in parts??
Post by: ians on 10 September 2008, 18:30:04
I agree with Kevin and Entwoods (particularly re 'trader vs ebay) posts above.   Can you plug the hole in the bumper somehow?
Title: Re: could i get more for it in parts??
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 10 September 2008, 18:34:32
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Guessing, off the top of my head:

LPG kit complete with tank

It's condition is unknown in that it's never worked properly, so peanuts I'm afraid :(


full heated leather

In it's condition, and being facelift - £200

various body panels

Not a lot - bumpers maybe £50 if good. Headlights, etc.

headlight washers

Are they not built into the bumpers on facelifts?

3.0v6 engine and autobox with 76k

AR35 - £80. Engine - £250 on ebay perhaps but you have the hassle of taking it out


very tidy well looked after elite alloys on recent tyres

£200?

irmscher grille

Not a clue - £100??

bose sound system inc sat nav

If it's CID like mine with the headunit and entire system - £300 maybe?

recent exhaust - worthless



It's certainly worth thinking about, in your situation!

If you do break it, I WILL have the LPG kit off you :y

Nice one James.   ;D ;D ;D ;D :y :y :y :y :y

Brilliant way to get cheap parts for your car.

Will have to remember that method.

Shoot it down 1st and offer peanuts later.

Especially when yours needs a new exhaust and the LPG is probably something or nothing.
  :-/ :-X :-X
Title: Re: could i get more for it in parts??
Post by: Markie on 10 September 2008, 19:17:33
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given that i'm only asking £2000 for the car it probably is worth more in parts, since i have no time or money to fix it, but i havent got anywhere to store a broken car once it's shed plenty parts, nor do i have the means to remove the engine and box

filler is in the bumper at the back, right in the middle (f***wits that fitted it didnt think about the possibilities of people wanting towbars on their cars)


Put it this way - I break 2 a month every month and i wouldnt buy yours off you for 2k to break and make a profit  :) Dont break it.

Title: Re: could i get more for it in parts??
Post by: VXL V6 on 10 September 2008, 19:20:57
I'll have the Headunit, display and associated parts and possibly the front bumper if you break it!

Title: Re: could i get more for it in parts??
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 10 September 2008, 19:47:33
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Guessing, off the top of my head:

LPG kit complete with tank

It's condition is unknown in that it's never worked properly, so peanuts I'm afraid :(


full heated leather

In it's condition, and being facelift - £200

various body panels

Not a lot - bumpers maybe £50 if good. Headlights, etc.

headlight washers

Are they not built into the bumpers on facelifts?

3.0v6 engine and autobox with 76k

AR35 - £80. Engine - £250 on ebay perhaps but you have the hassle of taking it out


very tidy well looked after elite alloys on recent tyres

£200?

irmscher grille

Not a clue - £100??

bose sound system inc sat nav

If it's CID like mine with the headunit and entire system - £300 maybe?

recent exhaust - worthless



It's certainly worth thinking about, in your situation!

If you do break it, I WILL have the LPG kit off you :y

Nice one James.   ;D ;D ;D ;D :y :y :y :y :y

Brilliant way to get cheap parts for your car.

Will have to remember that method.

Shoot it down 1st and offer peanuts later.

Especially when yours needs a new exhaust and the LPG is probably something or nothing.
  :-/ :-X :-X


There is a fundemental flaw in your theory.

Danny's car is a Saloon, mine is an Estate. The entire cat back exhaust system is totally different.

So how can this be the case?

Title: Re: could i get more for it in parts??
Post by: mars on 10 September 2008, 19:50:54
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I'll have the Headunit, display and associated parts and possibly the front bumper if you break it!


Put me down for the boot spoiler! ;) ;D
Title: Re: could i get more for it in parts??
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 10 September 2008, 20:07:40
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Guessing, off the top of my head:

LPG kit complete with tank

It's condition is unknown in that it's never worked properly, so peanuts I'm afraid :(


full heated leather

In it's condition, and being facelift - £200

various body panels

Not a lot - bumpers maybe £50 if good. Headlights, etc.

headlight washers

Are they not built into the bumpers on facelifts?

3.0v6 engine and autobox with 76k

AR35 - £80. Engine - £250 on ebay perhaps but you have the hassle of taking it out


very tidy well looked after elite alloys on recent tyres

£200?

irmscher grille

Not a clue - £100??

bose sound system inc sat nav

If it's CID like mine with the headunit and entire system - £300 maybe?

recent exhaust - worthless



It's certainly worth thinking about, in your situation!

If you do break it, I WILL have the LPG kit off you :y

Nice one James.   ;D ;D ;D ;D :y :y :y :y :y

Brilliant way to get cheap parts for your car.

Will have to remember that method.

Shoot it down 1st and offer peanuts later.

Especially when yours needs a new exhaust and the LPG is probably something or nothing.
  :-/ :-X :-X


There is a fundemental flaw in your theory.

Danny's car is a Saloon, mine is an Estate. The entire cat back exhaust system is totally different.

So how can this be the case?


In addition to this - why on earth would I travel a 500 miles round trip (which would cost me about £80 or £90 in fuel) to buy a used pattern exhaust (which wouldn't fit anyway!), when I could click a couple of buttons on ebay, and get it delivered to my front door!

As far as the LPG is concerned, let's look at the facts. It's never worked properly and despite spending a day (voluntarily, I may add) trying to get it to work for Danny, I couldn't fix it. With kits that we know well going for very low money - it's common sense that one with an unknown issue, that requires a good day removing neatly from a car - isn't going to hold a high value.

I've spend countless hours helping members here and TBH at the moment, I feel that it's ME being shot down, and I really don't see why.
Title: Re: could i get more for it in parts??
Post by: sassanach on 10 September 2008, 20:52:12
do yourself a favour James and stop biting! :)
Title: Re: could i get more for it in parts??
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 10 September 2008, 21:01:12
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do yourself a favour James and stop biting! :)

Lol - I struggled to see if the post was in humour, or not - I arrived at the latter :y
Title: Re: could i get more for it in parts??
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 10 September 2008, 21:14:15
Danny..
I agree with Kevin..Either take the LPG out or complete it..

However if I was you I would burn it but not sell in parts :'(
Title: Re: could i get more for it in parts??
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 10 September 2008, 21:21:11
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Danny..
I agree with Kevin..Either take the LPG out or complete it..

However if I was you I would burn it but not sell in parts :'(

Danny certainly has more patience than me!
Title: Re: could i get more for it in parts??
Post by: Danny on 10 September 2008, 21:44:15
I dont have the ability or local contacts to be able to get the LPG sorted, i'd have to shell out yet more cash to a fresh company in order to get it repaired, and even then i doubt i'd be able to add the finishing cost to the selling price to get rid
Title: Re: could i get more for it in parts??
Post by: HNO3GOH on 10 September 2008, 21:45:15
If you can sell my DTI elite estate then yours is sold or do you want to swap :)
Title: Re: could i get more for it in parts??
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 10 September 2008, 21:46:44
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If you can sell my DTI elite estate then yours is sold or do you want to swap :)

Obviously Danny gets first refusal, but if he declines, maybe you'd like to give me more information about your estate ::)
Title: Re: could i get more for it in parts??
Post by: Danny on 10 September 2008, 21:49:19
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If you can sell my DTI elite estate then yours is sold or do you want to swap :)

as tempting as the offer is, its the tied up cash i need to release, even considered selling my corsa to get a £500 cheap thing for work, purely to release cash, saving for a house, and i need to be able to park my corsa off the road!

was offered a facelift GLS on a 1999v with 126k and in nice condition earlier this afternoon with £1200 on top for mine, had to turn it down even though i think the GLS could have taken a grand
Title: Re: could i get more for it in parts??
Post by: Entwood on 10 September 2008, 21:50:07
I'm wondering if the "team" that was doing LPG conversions could get together and attack yours ... it can't be that major a problem that those guys can't sort it .. they did a full install in 3 days ... so a weekend to sort yours ???

Just a thought .....
Title: Re: could i get more for it in parts??
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 10 September 2008, 21:53:30
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I'm wondering if the "team" that was doing LPG conversions could get together and attack yours ... it can't be that major a problem that those guys can't sort it .. they did a full install in 3 days ... so a weekend to sort yours ???

Just a thought .....

Make that 2 days ;)
Happy to contribute, if something suitable can be arranged. I didn't make as much progress as I'd have liked when I visited Danny's car last - but in fairness there were too many faults with the install for me to fix in the few hours I had there  :'(
Title: Re: could i get more for it in parts??
Post by: HNO3GOH on 10 September 2008, 22:02:52
Well this is a link to the DTI elite thats for sale and if it can be sold then i will have Danny's and the gas system will be coming out ;)
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1219879144
Title: Re: could i get more for it in parts??
Post by: Danny on 10 September 2008, 22:03:07
did some searches on the LPG forum for any possible solutions or suggestions but found nothing with omegas that had OMVL systems so i dont know how much use their site could be, but the only one with and OMVL that had an incorrect RPM signal was a volvo and replies suggested reconnecting the wire further down or further up, and changing the coil settings on the software, but whether or not that helps on an omega is anyone's guess
Title: Re: could i get more for it in parts??
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 10 September 2008, 22:03:59
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did some searches on the LPG forum for any possible solutions or suggestions but found nothing with omegas that had OMVL systems so i dont know how much use their site could be, but the only one with and OMVL that had an incorrect RPM signal was a volvo and replies suggested reconnecting the wire further down or further up, and changing the coil settings on the software, but whether or not that helps on an omega is anyone's guess

I tried most of that on yours mate :(
Title: Re: could i get more for it in parts??
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 10 September 2008, 22:13:06
LPG systems are fairly complicated to back trace faults even for experts..

may sound stupid ( as it takes long time)

but one guarantee solution could be transferring a known working system to Dannies car..And checking if it works ok with the car..
May be an unknown issue with the engine exists..

or if some parts are interchangable (some must be) changing them one by one and checking the result.. (Just trying to help)
Title: Re: could i get more for it in parts??
Post by: Entwood on 10 September 2008, 22:23:11
Daft question I guess .. but have you posted your problem here ...

http://www.lpgforum.co.uk

There are some LPG experts there that may know that system....  ??

I don't mean just reading .. I mean posting in the "Problems" section asking for help ...
Title: Re: could i get more for it in parts??
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 10 September 2008, 22:34:41
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thats the forum i was looking on for answers

Did you post up?
Happy to post on your behalf if you like.
Title: Re: could i get more for it in parts??
Post by: Danny on 10 September 2008, 22:40:22
oops, deleted my post instead of editing!

i didnt post, just searched OMVL systems and omegas, closest link i could find was the Volvo with the same issue

feel free to post for me if you dont mind, i'd noticed you were registered :y